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[Q] Does Anyone Remember the S4 Launch Presentation?

So I was one of the people that watch the S4 Launch Presentation online from beginning to end. After having had my phone since it was released by AT&T, I've tried/utilized every feature available on it at least once.
However, there is one "feature" I cannot find that I remember hearing about during the presentation. It had to do with "Work". I can't remember exactly, but it had to do with the "separation" of "Work" and "Personal" Functions... I think it was related to email? I'm trying to watch the video again but does this ring a bell for anyone?

Faluzure said:
So I was one of the people that watch the S4 Launch Presentation online from beginning to end. After having had my phone since it was released by AT&T, I've tried/utilized every feature available on it at least once.
However, there is one "feature" I cannot find that I remember hearing about during the presentation. It had to do with "Work". I can't remember exactly, but it had to do with the "separation" of "Work" and "Personal" Functions... I think it was related to email? I'm trying to watch the video again but does this ring a bell for anyone?
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Android 4.2 introduces multi-user support. S4 does come with Android 4.2.2 and as such, they made it possible to separate the, say, work/personal accounts. The presentation was talking about a case where (in a corporate environment) the IT department would be able to setup your "Work" account as per their needs/requirements/restrictions while leaving the "Personal" user account untouched - actually not even having access to it.
Hope this answers your question.

That would be Samsung's Knox product, not multi-user from android. It has been delayed from release, but has been approved by DoD for use in government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEdK9eUBlnA
Faluzure said:
So I was one of the people that watch the S4 Launch Presentation online from beginning to end. After having had my phone since it was released by AT&T, I've tried/utilized every feature available on it at least once.
However, there is one "feature" I cannot find that I remember hearing about during the presentation. It had to do with "Work". I can't remember exactly, but it had to do with the "separation" of "Work" and "Personal" Functions... I think it was related to email? I'm trying to watch the video again but does this ring a bell for anyone?
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nacos said:
Android 4.2 introduces multi-user support. S4 does come with Android 4.2.2 and as such, they made it possible to separate the, say, work/personal accounts. The presentation was talking about a case where (in a corporate environment) the IT department would be able to setup your "Work" account as per their needs/requirements/restrictions while leaving the "Personal" user account untouched - actually not even having access to it.
Hope this answers your question.
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bigworm50 said:
That would be Samsung's Knox product, not multi-user from android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEdK9eUBlnA
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Thanks. It does. is this not available yet?

bigworm50 said:
That would be Samsung's Knox product, not multi-user from android. It has been delayed from release, but has been approved by DoD for use in government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEdK9eUBlnA
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Knox is Samsung's own security implementation but the multi-user support (Work/Personal accounts) used by Knox is actually built/based on Android 4.2 multi-user feature. Knox cannot be implemented on earlier versions of Android exactly due to Android's lack of multi-user support.
The multi-user support is present in all Android 4.2 versions regardless of hardware as well as Cyanogenmod 10 and up - without actually having anything to do with Samsung's Knox.

Knox was built from the ground up as platform/application security and device management. The multi-user feature is similar to android's built in feature in name only. Knox reaches all the way down to the bootloader.

Knox comes out in the summer in a future update. It seems nice but my work place doesn't use work phones.

bigworm50 said:
Knox was built from the ground up as platform/application security and device management. The multi-user feature is similar to android's built in feature in name only. Knox reaches all the way down to the bootloader.
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This could get interesting. I would assume a Knox enabled device would have a perma locked bootloader. If Samsung were to push an update including Knox, they could theoretically lock the phone down tight like Motorola did to the Atrix line, no?
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[Q] Anybody lacking official updates lately?

I've noticed that I seem to be missing a few updates that I expected I'd be one of the first in line for as a Nexus 4 owner.
Firstly, the Master Key vulnerability fix doesn't seem to have reached my phone. At least, according to Bluebox security scanner
Secondly, I still have no visibility of the new Google Maps redesign
My phone is a generic operator free Nexus 4 running stock (custom kernel though). Anybody else still waiting, or have I fallen off the automatic updates conveyor belt so far?

Where are you from? App updates from Google reach different parts of the world at different times.

thisisgil said:
I've noticed that I seem to be missing a few updates that I expected I'd be one of the first in line for as a Nexus 4 owner.
Firstly, the Master Key vulnerability fix doesn't seem to have reached my phone. At least, according to Bluebox security scanner
Secondly, I still have no visibility of the new Google Maps redesign
My phone is a generic operator free Nexus 4 running stock (custom kernel though). Anybody else still waiting, or have I fallen off the automatic updates conveyor belt so far?
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We are sailing in the same boat. Rooted with only custom recovery rest stock.

vanmarek said:
Where are you from? App updates from Google reach different parts of the world at different times.
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Based in the UK. If you've had the vulnerability patch already, did it come in the form of an app download or an ota update?

I'm in the UK and had the Maps update the day it was released.

thisisgil said:
Based in the UK. If you've had the vulnerability patch already, did it come in the form of an app download or an ota update?
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Google hasn't released a patch for the vulnerability that's why you haven't gotten it. All they have done so far is release the code to their OEM's so they can patch their individual versions of Android. More than likely Nexus devices will get the patch in the 4.2.3 OTA whenever it gets released. In teh mean time their is an app in the Playstore, ReKey, that will address the vulnerability. Or you could just turn off install apps from unknown sources in the security settings which will also take care of the issue temporarily.
As for the other app updates they can take up to 2 weeks to deploy to all phones.

SM-G935U Galaxy S7 Edge (Unlocked) - May 1st Security Patches

Had the Nexus 6P - but even with Franco kernel and normal use battery life wasn't long enough. Saw the release of the S7 Edge unlocked which was great so I went and picked it up from best buy last night. Big reason is the monthly update cycle and keeping everything patched from a security standpoint without the Verizon bloat and slow release cycles.
Went to check the patch level and saw "Android security patch level: May 1, 2016". Checked for updates and are none.
Anyone else experiencing this? Appears to be missing June for sure and the newly released July security patches.

kennedyd013 said:
Had the Nexus 6P - but even with Franco kernel and normal use battery life wasn't long enough. Saw the release of the S7 Edge unlocked which was great so I went and picked it up from best buy last night. Big reason is the monthly update cycle and keeping everything patched from a security standpoint without the Verizon bloat and slow release cycles.
Went to check the patch level and saw "Android security patch level: May 1, 2016". Checked for updates and are none.
Anyone else experiencing this? Appears to be missing June for sure and the newly released July security patches.
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Yeah mine has the same update. Does yours have the briefing feed on the left of your home screen? I noticed mine doesn't like the carrier ones do.

Same here..
Alaris said:
Yeah mine has the same update. Does yours have the briefing feed on the left of your home screen? I noticed mine doesn't like the carrier ones do.
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Yep - same with me - no briefing feed when you swipe left - nothing there.
Wonder whats happening - would hope Samsung provides updates to their own phone.. ?

I'm guessing it's because the phone just came out that they haven't released an update with the latest security patches yet. They probably have to set up their update servers for this new phone and a bunch of other behind the scenes stuff to get updates rolling. I would assume that it will get something within the next couple weeks and then continue to keep up with the other variants.

Does this variant of the S7 Edge have an unlocked bootloader?

No unlocked bootloader - just not tied to an individual carrier i.e. verizon, etc. with the extra bloatware.
Still no updates yet to the SM-G935U.

Ended up returning it and going back to my Nexus - no updates really sucks.

Has anyone figured out how to get briefing on the left screen. I used that a lot and i can't get it to work. Even went to the play store and Samsung store, got briefing but it won't let me enable it on the home screen settings...?

I've gone round and round with Samsung support about this particular unlocked device. The bottom line is that they are saying OTA updates for these devices might not be available because those are normally pushed through the carrier. They suggested to use their Smart Switch tool to apply updates. Even though this is a terrible idea and they should use OTA (with the invention of non-carrier WiFi these days ), I checked using this tool and surprise... there were no updates available.
I'll spare everyone the entire conversation, but this is how it ended:
"We understand. If you have an unlocked the latest updates for firmware and security can be done through Smart Switch. If you have checked for an update using Smart Switch and there aren't any currently available, we couldn't speculate on when that may change. In many cases this wouldn't be delivered OTA because OTA updates are normally pushed by carriers. Unlocked devices may not be able to get updates directly from the carrier currently being used. ^Jay"

Mine just updated today with the August 1st security patches. If had to guess, they waited until the Olympics were over since they handed these unlocked devices out to every athlete in attendance and they didn't want them receiving updates during the event.

Hopefully now that the unlocked models have received their first update, they will continue to get regular updates at the same time as other variants.

just checked for update - 164.13 mb ) ( g935v flashed to g935u)

Interesting
secsquirl said:
Mine just updated today with the August 1st security patches. If had to guess, they waited until the Olympics were over since they handed these unlocked devices out to every athlete in attendance and they didn't want them receiving updates during the event.
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Thanks for posting this one, thats good to hear. I wonder if they will proceed further. Good to hear Samsung's infrastructure will support updates in the future. I wonder if its only for security patches or if they will do incremental updates to OS as well, like Android N for example.

Just got this tonight. I didn't have automatic update turned on but I checked and this showed up. Idk if i should do it or not.

I'm on T-Mobile with the SM-G935U. I got the update a few weeks ago and now it shows the Aug 1,2016 Android security update.

As far as root and bootloader unlock should i not do the update or just go for it?

Can the sm-g935U be flashed using DFS Tools? Does these codes bring up the diag menu?
##3424#
###366633#
Can someone please try those codes and see if the diag menu shows.
Thanks

PapaDocta said:
Can the sm-g935U be flashed using DFS Tools? Does these codes bring up the diag menu?
##3424#
###366633#
Can someone please try those codes and see if the diag menu shows.
Thanks
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Those codes don't bring up anything. Neither does *#0*# - I'm still on the damned May 1, 2016 Security update and it doesn't seem to think I need one.

L04C567B396 appeared on FF

Today, L04C567B396 appeared on FF, the third update in a month time with no approval for installation for the earlier B394 so far.
With this updae comes two additions and one improvement to the EMUI features plus a new June google security patch.
Again, with this update a hope of eminent EMUI 8 (Oreo) is lost at least for a couple of months if not impossible any time soon in my opinion.
Let's hope that my guess is wrong.
Tell me what do you think in the comments below.
Anyways here's the B396 changelog:
This update reduces Phone Manager's cleanup time to less than one minute, and adds more scenarios to support the one-touch split-screen feature.
[Dual windows]
Adds a button in the Recent apps cards. Touch it to split the screen. This operation is only available for apps that support the split-screen feature.
[System]
Optimizes Phone Manager's cleanup speed and scope. A single cleanup can now be completed in less than one minute.
Optimizes data usage management by allowing you to specify the start date of your data plan.
[Call]
Optimizes Quick calling by enabling speaker mode by default. Press and hold the volume down button to enable Quick calling.
[Security]
Integrates Google security patches released in Jun 2018 for improved system security.
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Update 1: Honor skipped B394 to B395 and stated seeding.
Nitrowarez.
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Who cares? By the time it's approved it'll be end of July possibly August. Chris (head Dev at honor USA) says they have no control over when it gets approved. We are getting Oreo, and he's getting responses from the beta group about the bootloader issue to give to the higher ups.

agraceful said:
Who cares? By the time it's approved it'll be end of July possibly August.
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I was thinking the same.
Honor support told me we would get it 'very soon' 2 months ago and its likely another two months if they have only just started alpha/beta testing.
Not sure I agree that is 'very soon'.
Personally I'd prefer lineageos so we get future support, but haven't read the other threads to understand why dev support is limited.
Perhaps 'Chris' can release the kernel source for Oreo on the Honor 8, so others can start development in parallel with Honor, or release the camera blobs or whatever is stopping the camera's working.

I think we better stop creating new threads for each patch for specific model .,. its getting really boring.,., i myself created several threads for the patches but no charm now.., especially after oreo in tow..,
admins if we could join all the threads under patch update.,

SSyar said:
I think we better stop creating new threads for each patch for specific model .,. its getting really boring.,., i myself created several threads for the patches but no charm now.., especially after oreo in tow..,
admins if we could join all the threads under patch update.,
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I guess I'll make it. Hopefully it works out well

xsacter said:
I guess I'll make it. Hopefully it works out well
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Hope so?

scoobydu said:
Hope so?
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Yea because some people might not like the idea, including admins

xsacter said:
Yea because some people might not like the idea, including admins
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Ok.

Security updates

My phone is on the latest (Feb) stock firmware, it has been unlocked, and then rooted with Magisk. After that, the only other things that I did was to deny a bunch of permissions to a bunch of apps (altogether too many to list, but the only app to complain about anything is 'Play Store Services' )
That's the background. Now, when I go to Settings->About phone->Android version the "Android security patch level" shows "February 5, 2020" which, obviously, is not the latest security patch for Android 10, and I was convinced that because PH-1 was a Project Treble phone, it would be getting security directly from Google, so what am I missing (or have I messed up with the intended flow of things by blocking too much from Google)?

As far as I know, security updates are still delivered via OEM patches. If you want security updates for this phone, you have to flash another ROM.

MarSOnEarth said:
I was convinced that because PH-1 was a Project Treble phone, it would be getting security directly from Google, so what am I missing (or have I messed up with the intended flow of things by blocking too much from Google)?
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From what I know about Treble, it does NOT mean the security updates are provided directly by Google. It only makes it easier and faster (by separating the OS framework from the hardware-dependent vendor code) for vendors to prepare and release updates. But the updates are still packaged and released by the vendors.
The Project Mainline changes that, so the security updates would be delivered straight through Google Play. But we are out of luck with the PH-1 here...

kt-Froggy said:
From what I know about Treble, it does NOT mean the security updates are provided directly by Google. It only makes it easier and faster (by separating the OS framework from the hardware-dependent vendor code) for vendors to prepare and release updates. But the updates are still packaged and released by the vendors.
The Project Mainline changes that, so the security updates would be delivered straight through Google Play. But we are out of luck with the PH-1 here...
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Ahh. Thank you for this clarification.
With my (paranoid) online hygiene + AFWall I'm still very comfortable using this phone as is, and the feedback from the Android 11 thread is reassuring that there will be another lifeline for this hardware. Life's good.

Hopefully with Android 11 we will be able to some how load in monthly security updates.

I'm using LinageOS right now. Works really good including monthly security updates. There is only one problem with the microphone in voice calls when the loudspeaker is on.

Essential delivered security updates. They closed up shop in February. Only way to get security updates is via 3rd party ROM.
You can get Google Play security updates OTA, but they're not thorough like normal security updates.