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Hi,
It will probably take some time until I'll get my phone, but I am trying to understand how to start.
I am OK with having only English on my phone, but I would prefer to have a clean and bloat free rom that has the GAPPS and that can get OTA updates.
I want to do the minimum needed to get this, I really don't want to change roms every other week.
How should I start? I am a bit lost.
Is the Chinese rom that bad?
Should I change the rom and root it?
Thanks in advance,
Asaf
I think this should be in the Q&A forum
It sounds like you want a stable ROM with Gapps. Xiaomi offer several ROM types. If you want Gapps included from the start, you want their stable international ROM. The trouble is that at the moment they don't do one for the XRN2 yet. Head over to en.miui.com, pick a phone that has been around for longer and in the download section for that device you will see the different ROM types (there are tabs at the top of each phone section). There are also a couple of great explanatory pages in their forum that guide you through the different ROM types.
Use the xiaomi.eu ROM. Multilanguage, clean and with Gapps. OTA also included
Sent from my Redmi Note 2 using Tapatalk
First, get TWRP installed in your phone.
Then flash a stable rom
At the end, install proper gapp using TWRP.
Thanks.
So
1. Install TWRP, will this link should be enough to install it? http://en.miui.com/thread-156838-1-1.html
2. Go to http://xiaomi.eu --> ROMs DOWNLOAD and take the DOWNLOAD WEEKLY rom (http://miuif.celogeek.com/5.9.10/xiaomi.eu_multi_hermes_5.9.11_v7-5.0.zip)?
shemsha said:
Thanks.
So
1. Install TWRP, will this link should be enough to install it? http://en.miui.com/thread-156838-1-1.html
2. Go to http://xiaomi.eu --> ROMs DOWNLOAD and take the DOWNLOAD WEEKLY rom (http://miuif.celogeek.com/5.9.10/xiaomi.eu_multi_hermes_5.9.11_v7-5.0.zip)?
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BUT, you said you don't want to have to flash a new ROM every week. The xiaomi.EU weekly ROMs are a beta ROM, they are not the same as the 'stable' ROM. I'm using the weekly version just fine, but there are a few bugs. This ROM may or may not suit your needs. Please be aware of that As soon as Xiaomi release the official stable International ROM with Gapps, that's the one you want (based on your stated requirements).
Thanks
So perhaps I'll wait, hopefully it will come up soon enough.
Hope the Chinese rom isn't too bad...
shemsha said:
Thanks
So perhaps I'll wait, hopefully it will come up soon enough.
Hope the Chinese rom isn't too bad...
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The first ROM I flashed was the stable ROM from MIUI.com. At the moment this is available as Chinese only (with only Chinese and English languages on board). It is also MIUI version 6 not 7. You do not need TWRP installed to flash this. You can just download it straight to internal storage, then use the Xiaomi updater app (which is already on the phone) to manually flash it. This ROM is not rooted.
Next I tried the weekly ROM from MIUI.com. At that point I incorrectly thought that it would be multi language, but it wasn't. It did at least have MIUI 7 on board though. TWRP is also not needed to flash this. This ROM is rooted. Root settings can be accessed via the Security app. You can also install SuperSU, grant it root access, then use it to control the root access of other apps if you wish. There are no Google apps on board. I was on n holiday at the time so I manually placed all the relevant files, set permissions and so on using ES File explorer that I side loaded and granted root privileges to. Yes, my girlfriend thought it was very romantic of me to spend a whole evening split between doing this and hunting some particularly aggressive mosquitoes trapped in our room. Only the best for my love.
Finally I downloaded the latest weekly (not stable) ROM from from Xiaomi.EU. As well as being a beta, it is not an official Xiaomi ROM. They do also have a stable ROM in offer, but it is not rooted. Basic Google apps are installed. TWRP is not needed here either. However, I installed it briefly to make a full backup of my phone, and a separate backup of the NVRAM portion of the device where the IMEI resides. Experience tells me this is important on an MTK phone in case the area becomes corrupt during an incorrect flash. You can also use SPFlash Tools to do this from a computer. Google the process, it's well worth being prepared. Damian Parsons over on GizBeat and China Phone Arena has done some useful tutorials with videos. Make sure you have the right version of SPFlash tools (which is not the same as MTKdroidtools -or something like that). I have only used a couple of times with my first two MTK phones so I don't know what version you need to use with this chipset.
For my purposes NONE of these ROMs actually fit the bill. Why? Because none of them so far allow me to select UK English as the default language or select the UK as the region I'm in. It's a small thing, but the last three Chinese phones I've had all suffered from the same problem. I end up rooting and using More Locales app to create a new default language code over and above selecting UK English in Google keyboard.
Once Xiaomi release an official global ROM the download page for the Note 2 will look like in the attached screenshot which shows the Mi4 page. Note the two tabs at the top, global and Chinese, in addition to the 'stable' and 'developer' sections down the left hand side.
Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new to Xiaomi devices
Thanks for the detailed response.
Sounds like that for my purposes, and until an official rom is out, the easiest option is either the latest weekly or stable from xiaomi.eu.
I understand they can be installed using xiaomi updater as well?
Yes, you can install them the same way as official ROMs.
shemsha said:
Thanks for the detailed response.
Sounds like that for my purposes, and until an official rom is out, the easiest option is either the latest weekly or stable from xiaomi.eu.
I understand they can be installed using xiaomi updater as well?
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Also, when I received my phone there was a lot of non-MIUI related bloatware and possibly malware on board. It was multi language (with UK English as a built in option) but it all felt wrong, slow and dodgy. Reading elsewhere it was recommended the best thing to do was flash a ROM from a PC using the fastboot method to erase everything, then start from there. There are fastboot ROMs with instructions on the en.miui.com site. If you think you need to, you could flash via fastboot, then download your subsequent choice of ROM from xiaomi.EU and flash that however you please. As I was away (and impatient) I didn't do the first flash via fastboot. I just did a full wipe from the stock recovery, then put a ROM into internal memory, then flashed it from the stock recovery, then factory reset again. No idea if that was sufficient, but there's no sign of the extra apps any more.
You don't need TWRP
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Ouzo said:
I installed it briefly to make a full backup of my phone, and a separate backup of the NVRAM portion of the device where the IMEI resides. Experience tells me this is important on an MTK phone in case the area becomes corrupt during an incorrect flash. You can also use SPFlash Tools to do this from a computer. Google the process, it's well worth being prepared. Damian Parsons over on GizBeat and China Phone Arena has done some useful tutorials with videos. Make sure you have the right version of SPFlash tools (which is not the same as MTKdroidtools -or something like that). I have only used a couple of times with my first two MTK phones so I don't know what version you need to use with this chipset.
For my purposes NONE of these ROMs actually fit the bill. Why? Because none of them so far allow me to select UK English as the default language or select the UK as the region I'm in. It's a small thing, but the last three Chinese phones I've had all suffered from the same problem. I end up rooting and using More Locales app to create a new default language code over and above selecting UK English in Google keyboard.
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Thanks for the info, this is great for me. I will follow what you said regarding backing up this NVRAM you speak of, as I just read that the source code for the Helios X10 has been released, so we can expect more people including members of the HTC M9+ forum playing around with code.
It would be nice to have an option for UK English (or Australian English for me, to be precise) however I haven't noticed much of a difference, maybe because I have Swiftkey installed and that already has the correct language setting.
zan5hin said:
Thanks for the info, this is great for me. I will follow what you said regarding backing up this NVRAM you speak of, as I just read that the source code for the Helios X10 has been released, so we can expect more people including members of the HTC M9+ forum playing around with code.
It would be nice to have an option for UK English (or Australian English for me, to be precise) however I haven't noticed much of a difference, maybe because I have Swiftkey installed and that already has the correct language setting.
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Changing the language to UK English is only part of the problem for me. Basically the phone thinks I'm in the U.S, or rather, that I have a U.S phone in the UK. This can cause problems within apps that want tailor content to my region code (or even deny me content). I've tried editing the build.prop a little, but it doesn't seem to help.
Mobile Uncle tools (free in Play Store) used to be able to back up one's IMEI number, but it didn't work on this phone. Dunno if that's because it runs lollipop. Anyway, that's why TWRP was handy and I will try using SPFlashTools again at some point.
Hello,
My Redmi note 2 does not do the automatic updates via the updater app and I am stuck on 5.9.2 beta.
I realized that I probably do not have an official rom (since I have GoogleAppStore) and that might be the reason why the updater will not connect to the servers.
So I think I would be better off wiping and flashing my phone to reinstall a rom. My question is this: which rom should I install ? I see a lot off different stuff that I do not understand, Official, Hermes, Global, Xiamo.eu etc... All of this is very confusing to me. All the threads consists in installation guide and are not very clear on what are the differences between theses roms.
Ideally I would need an english rom, without the chineese apps, with the GoogleStore and that could be upgraded automatically without having to wipe the phone every time.
I also see that the 5.10.15/16 miui rom is running on a new version of android. Do I need to make the android upgrade myself or does it come with the rom ? Should I be worried about bugs, loss of performance/battery life with these new roms and android version ? What are the real improvements ?
Thanks a lot !
Cheers
Where did you see that 5.10.15 works on a new version of android? I din't see anything... I only saw that it changed the sign, that now is private, so we need TWRP for update unofficial miui rom (if we want gapps and multilanguage)
For the rom:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage. From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater
Global is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
kirikoukirikou said:
Hello,
My Redmi note 2 does not do the automatic updates via the updater app and I am stuck on 5.9.2 beta.
I realized that I probably do not have an official rom (since I have GoogleAppStore) and that might be the reason why the updater will not connect to the servers.
So I think I would be better off wiping and flashing my phone to reinstall a rom. My question is this: which rom should I install ? I see a lot off different stuff that I do not understand, Official, Hermes, Global, Xiamo.eu etc... All of this is very confusing to me. All the threads consists in installation guide and are not very clear on what are the differences between theses roms.
Ideally I would need an english rom, without the chineese apps, with the GoogleStore and that could be upgraded automatically without having to wipe the phone every time.
I also see that the 5.10.15/16 miui rom is running on a new version of android. Do I need to make the android upgrade myself or does it come with the rom ? Should I be worried about bugs, loss of performance/battery life with these new roms and android version ? What are the real improvements ?
Thanks a lot !
Cheers
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The official Xaiomi ROM is MIUI 7 and it came out for the phone at the same time as the hardware launch. The ROM can be downloaded here. You can pick between the developer version that's updated weekly or the stable version that is updated every six months. I believe they come with Google Apps. The ROM contains the OS so you don't need to worry about upgrading separate software. You can mostly just read about the ROM's on other threads on forums (and I suggest going to the official MIUI forums).
To flash the ROM, you can download the PC updater as well at the link.
SkiFire13 said:
Where did you see that 5.10.15 works on a new version of android? I din't see anything... I only saw that it changed the sign, that now is private, so we need TWRP for update unofficial miui rom (if we want gapps and multilanguage)
For the rom:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage. From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater
Global is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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Hi,
First of all, let me thank you for your answer.
Does this mean I should install this rom ? xiaomi.eu community threads 5-10-15-16.28809
And then do my weekly updates manually by unzipping the files ?
About the android update, you will see in the second post on the link I just sent:
"[System]
New - Android version upgraded to 5.1.1. Please note that users cannot go back to older developer version after this update, otherwise your device might face severe damages such as not able to make calls (Mi Note Pro) (10-09)"
SkiFire13 said:
Where did you see that 5.10.15 works on a new version of android? I din't see anything... I only saw that it changed the sign, that now is private, so we need TWRP for update unofficial miui rom (if we want gapps and multilanguage)
For the rom:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage. From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater
Global is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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from xiaomi site they said the first global rom v7 will be the 10/27 so you can wait one week to get it on xiaomi miui eu.
tailslol said:
from xiaomi site they said the first global rom v7 will be the 10/27 so you can wait one week to get it on xiaomi miui eu.
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Haha great, I am just in the process of installing the Xiaomi.eu weekly rom...
Anyway thank you all for your answers.
I am installing the Xiaomi.eu 5.10.16 weekly. From what I understand I will need to patch and upgrade by downloading the .zip file manually.
kirikoukirikou said:
Haha great, I am just in the process of installing the Xiaomi.eu weekly rom...
Anyway thank you all for your answers.
I am installing the Xiaomi.eu 5.10.16 weekly. From what I understand I will need to patch and upgrade by downloading the .zip file manually.
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with luck the rom you have come with a update installer included,the miui france got one so they can update it really easily just by running the app,but it is french only. it come with gapps and i think all dev roms are rooted by default. you acces root permission in the security center.
kirikoukirikou said:
Hi,
About the android update, you will see in the second post on the link I just sent:
"[System]
New - Android version upgraded to 5.1.1. Please note that users cannot go back to older developer version after this update, otherwise your device might face severe damages such as not able to make calls (Mi Note Pro) (10-09)"
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I was excited about upgrading to 5.1.1. On rereading the post, I interpreted it to apply to only one phone, the Mi Note Pro.
Sent from my Asus Zenpad S 8.0
Explore3 said:
I was excited about upgrading to 5.1.1. On rereading the post, I interpreted it to apply to only one phone, the Mi Note Pro.
Sent from my Asus Zenpad S 8.0
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Yeah, I though the phone was mentionned because the but bug was reported on this one...
SkiFire13 said:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage.
From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater. these miui v7 roms atm are the beta/alpha versions before they finalise a stable vision.
Global rom is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. Usually the 'stable' release/version after all the beta/alpha stages.
There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. Original releases from xiaomi.com team at china, real official.
For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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So ideally, for us non-chinese preferred/english/google users, we would like to be on the Global version.
Hope this helps more :silly:
aliguu said:
So ideally, for us non-chinese preferred/english/google users, we would like to be on the Global version.
Hope this helps more :silly:
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for the non chinese the best could be a aosp rom without miui.
they are a lot more stock,you will find them in the forum if you want.
MIUI isn't better than AOSP and AOSP isn't better than MIUI. I prefer MIUI, another persons can prefer AOSP.
The best miui version... Global and Xiaomi.eu can be good, but the translations are a bit old (a week behind). All the translations community release a ROM that contain the latest rom with that language translated.
So for example miui.it release the miui with the latest italian translation, miui.es with the latest spain translation ecc ecc
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
SkiFire13 said:
MIUI isn't better than AOSP and AOSP isn't better than MIUI. I prefer MIUI, another persons can prefer AOSP.
The best miui version... Global and Xiaomi.eu can be good, but the translations are a bit old (a week behind). All the translations community release a ROM that contain the latest rom with that language translated.
So for example miui.it release the miui with the latest italian translation, miui.es with the latest spain translation ecc ecc
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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miui is full of untranslated chinese bloatware and has no voice reconisation,limited hand free fonctions with bluetooth headset for example and block a lots of tweaks.
google now can be used but it will not work in hand free mode and you cant assign to a bluetooth or wired headset without unlock the phone.but the user interface and security is great.
on the other hand aosp roms have all hand free fonction intact with no chinese bloatware . but you will lose the miui avantages (the ui and security tweaks),aosp is very stock but you can add your launcher and extra apps and fonction like xposed (walkman/xperia stuff or dolby atmos...)
tailslol said:
miui is full of untranslated chinese bloatware and has no voice reconisation,limited hand free fonctions with bluetooth headset for example and block a lots of tweaks.
google now can be used but it will not work in hand free mode and you cant assign to a bluetooth or wired headset without unlock the phone.but the user interface and security is great.
on the other hand aosp roms have all hand free fonction intact with no chinese bloatware . but you will lose the miui avantages (the ui and security tweaks),aosp is very stock but you can add your launcher and extra apps and fonction like xposed (walkman/xperia stuff or dolby atmos...)
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I don't see chinese bloatware untranslated... Are you using the chinese developer rom or a xiaomi.eu rom? And which language?
I never had problems with miui.
I don't need extra functions because all that I need is in miui.
I like miui style, and I didn't find anything similar to it on AOSP or CM themes. Or I'm wrong?
Ps I don't understand the launcher thing... I can also change it on miui...
SkiFire13 said:
I don't see chinese bloatware untranslated... Are you using the chinese developer rom or a xiaomi.eu rom? And which language?
I never had problems with miui.
I don't need extra functions because all that I need is in miui.
I like miui style, and I didn't find anything similar to it on AOSP or CM themes. Or I'm wrong?
Ps I don't understand the launcher thing... I can also change it on miui...
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i am using the french dev rom for the moment with included root ,gapps and ota updater.
well yes you can change the launcher in miui but it takes lots of ram by default,
the chinese browser,the mi market,kuaipan are bloatware not realy nicely translated.
the music ,market,gallery,fm radio,video and theme app have a lots of chinese unstranslated shop pages and those shops are not usefull at all here.
especialy the untranslated themes that add chinese part to your phone.
and to me the lack of hand free voice reconisation on a phone is just a killer .
tailslol said:
i am using the french dev rom for the moment with included root ,gapps and ota updater.
well yes you can change the launcher in miui but it takes lots of ram by default,
the chinese browser,the mi market,kuaipan are bloatware not realy nicely translated.
the music ,market,gallery,fm radio,video and theme app have a lots of chinese unstranslated shop pages and those shops are not usefull at all here.
especialy the untranslated themes that add chinese part to your phone.
and to me the lack of hand free voice reconisation on a phone is just a killer .
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in xiaomi.eu rom (italian language):
-Browser -> translated (and the default page is google)
-MiMarket -> removed
-Kuaipan -> translated and integrated in File Manager (so you can use only File Manager)
-Music, Video -> online services removed
-Gallery, FM Radio -> no chinese services...
-Themes -> Nobody translate the themes, only the official themes are translated
-Free Voice Reconisation -> Just install an app for it. in my opinion this technology is too slow so I use the keyboard
So, what is the problem? Maybe you are using the wrong ROM?
SkiFire13 said:
in xiaomi.eu rom (italian language):
-Browser -> translated (and the default page is google)
-MiMarket -> removed
-Kuaipan -> translated and integrated in File Manager (so you can use only File Manager)
-Music, Video -> online services removed
-Gallery, FM Radio -> no chinese services...
-Themes -> Nobody translate the themes, only the official themes are translated
-Free Voice Reconisation -> Just install an app for it. in my opinion this technology is too slow so I use the keyboard
So, what is the problem? Maybe you are using the wrong ROM?
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well do you have root?
my security center has root manager.
and as i said the hand free mode of most 3rd party apps cant be used in miui because it just does not allow to be trigered by a headset without unlocking the phone.
and as i am seeing your miui have lots of stuff removed.
does it support natively french language ?
i did not flash the rom myself,
when i purchased my phone on xiaomi france site,i
had this rom on it. i receive an ota update every weeks so i am guessing it is the most untouched miui you can get.
Yes, I have root.
Xiaomi.eu roms supports French
I don't know what rom you have, usualy stock roms aren't very good
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
SkiFire13 said:
Yes, I have root.
Xiaomi.eu roms supports French
I don't know what rom you have, usualy stock roms aren't very good
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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miui france dev rom 7 5.10.22 beta
edit : oki i looked the issue closely and it seems 2 groups are actuly translating miui in french...
miui france provide a untouched rom and xiaomi eu make a global rom with most chinese services removed.
i switched by using the included update app and it removed most chinese stuff.
but the hand free limitation is still a problem...
Try this. On my phone work
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
I've searched but couldn't find anything useful about how to best debloat a Chinese MIUI ROM for the non-Chinese market? I'm awaiting a Xiaomi Mi 5S in the coming days which doesn't have an internatinoal ROM yet albeit any other AOSP cloaser ROM. So it will be coming with a Chinese ROM. I would surely like to debloat it properly and make Google apps available on it by default so it would be more like a normal Android phone. I've heard that MIUI is a ice ROM (only been using Nexus devices so far, but never tried anything else apart from original AOSP or some custom AOSP ROM (becase device wasn't officially supported any more by Google). So. Debloat a MIUI 8 then...
Flash xiaomi.eu ROM
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This should help: http://xiaomitips.com/download/google-installer-app/
I haven't tested it myself, as I'm also waiting for the phone delivery.
This is just for the whole google stuff, you might want to first uninstall all apps in the normal app uninstall menu.
Flash xiaomi.eu ROM as @Klanac89 said and then I use App Quarantine to freeze remaining bloatware. Works a dream.
How to disable "security" app without issues? When I try delete apk with root I have a lot of FC and other issues.
Is there any way possible to instal a stock-like ROM on the Xiaomi Mi5S? Cyanogenmod for example, rooting, TWRP recovery all that stuff.
Thanks in advance
Kikkert said:
Is there any way possible to instal a stock-like ROM on the Xiaomi Mi5S? Cyanogenmod for example, rooting, TWRP recovery all that stuff.
Thanks in advance
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No, not until we get kernel sources and someone builds the roms
ermacwins said:
No, not until we get kernel sources and someone builds the roms
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Can root / instal twrp + xiaomi.eu rom and customize it as u want with xposed.
Probably not as good as CM, but is a good start.
Klanac89 said:
Flash xiaomi.eu ROM
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Care to provide a link to it?
literadesign said:
Care to provide a link to it?
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Use the guide from xiaomi.eu, (unfortunatelly i can not post link on this forum yet), the post is called "All-in-one Guide Compilation On How To Flash Xiaomi.eu Roms On Your Mi5s"
I used the guide above to succesfully flash xiaomi eu rom on my mi5s. All the necessary links to tools and roms are available in the guide.
Friborg said:
Use the guide from xiaomi.eu, (unfortunatelly i can not post link on this forum yet), the post is called "All-in-one Guide Compilation On How To Flash Xiaomi.eu Roms On Your Mi5s"
I used the guide above to succesfully flash xiaomi eu rom on my mi5s. All the necessary links to tools and roms are available in the guide.
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But is xiaomi.eu ROM official or is it just some other ROM that's faking officiality?
xiaomi.eu ROM is a custom rom, like CM. It just looks more or less the same and I think it's even part the same developers as the official ROM, but that's just a guess.
patoberli said:
xiaomi.eu ROM is a custom rom, like CM. It just looks more or less the same and I think it's even part the same developers as the official ROM, but that's just a guess.
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If they're not official devs, then I don't know how are they able to create custom ROM as Xiaomi hasn't officially released kernel sources? XDA developers can't do zilch about custom ROMS but they can. That would make them either creme de la creme of Android/Linux devs or they just have access to more Xiaomi original sources than the rest of the world does... Is there a third option?
literadesign said:
Is there a third option?
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Could the changes be in the APKs and not the kernel?
CL0SeY said:
Could the changes be in the APKs and not the kernel?
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I suppose they could be yes, but one would need either source code of all those APKs or at least a working reverse engineered source. Which gets us basically back to square one. There's a lot more APK sources than there is of the kernel. I would guess so. Which simply means much more work.
Honestly I'm not sure. I don't have an account at xiaomi.eu (yet), but maybe you want to ask your question there?
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The only information I found: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/how-is-this-different-than-miui-com.18629/
Sadly they don't write about SafetyNet there.
flash the mi 5s poland version rom which is official
https://miuipolska.pl/DOWNLOAD/
I haven't flashed it yet. However, from my past experience, the Polak rom comes rooted and debloated.
Hmm if that is the same as the official beta ROM, then this version doesn't yet include support for the MI 5s. That was probably completely added this week, in the new version 6.11.24 (source: http://en.miui.com/thread-417573-1-1.html). Release notes with the list of supported devices will be out tomorrow. Last weeks version included the 5s for the first time, but it was "on hold - because of new drivers", which means no download links.
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Hmm if that is the same as the official beta ROM, then this version doesn't yet include support for the MI 5s. That was probably completely added this week, in the new version 6.11.24 (source: http://en.miui.com/thread-417573-1-1.html). Release notes with the list of supported devices will be out tomorrow. Last weeks version included the 5s for the first time, but it was "on hold - because of new drivers", which means no download links.
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No download links in 6.11.24 either. And I suspect that device listing has a typo as instead of stating Mi 5s it should likely state Mi 5s Plus which does have global ROM support. I sincerely hope there will be a global ROM for Mi 5s as well in the near future, but that may never happen. I hope my request to unlock doesn't get rejected though, so I have hopes of flashing the EU version... BTW: 6.11.24 still has Mi 5, Mi 5s (plus), Mi Mix on hold because of Qualcomm.
im8a said:
flash the mi 5s poland version rom which is official
https://miuipolska.pl/DOWNLOAD/
I haven't flashed it yet. However, from my past experience, the Polak rom comes rooted and debloated.
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If this is official ROM then you should be able to flash it without unlocking your device. If an unlock is required, then I'm afraid this is not official as I'm pretty sure there is no special Polish version of the ROM. It's either Chinese or Global... Everything else is unofficial and requires bootloader unlock.
Through Xiaomi's new policy phones manufactured for Chinese market
are not been able to run MIUI Global ROM and vice versa.
http://en.miui.com/thread-3831680-1-1.html
http://en.miui.com/thread-3822514-1-1.html
motherfkrs
if you dont have an unlocked bootloader it wont let you flash a global rom.
this is basicly to prevent people from buying chinese versions from aliexpress.
the problem is that these sellers open the bootloader and install a fake global rom / global rom on it...
if you have an unlocked bootloader you are fine, your playstore wont pass safety net though
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Now Xiaomi Phones which are manufactured in China Factory/China Hardware, can't be able to run MIUI Global ROM with Locked Bootloader.
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Damn... I should've bought global version proudly made in USA with American hardware...
I just hope LineageOS will come to our phone so I can be done with all the Miui Xiaomi BS
Are the call problems on global rom irrelevant to this?
or somehow Xiaomi made the global rom incompatible with Chinese models?
quincyquinn said:
I just hope LineageOS will come to our phone so I can be done with all the Miui Xiaomi BS
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Oooh, believe me, it will...
How are those AliExpress sellers unlocking the bootloader and installing fake global ROMs? Do they have an army of people making fake MIUI accounts and waiting for a month for an unlock code? Sounds to me like they use logic probes to flash the fake ROMs directly.
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Are the call problems on global rom irrelevant to this?
or somehow Xiaomi made the global rom incompatible with Chinese models?
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That's a good question.
If it is so, why would they do that?
What's the benefit of this for Xiaomi?
This looks very bad.
They can make all the excuses they want, but I think there's a pretty clear agenda here.
I'd be surprised if there's still a development community for any new Xiaomi phones in 6 months, given how fast this is deteriorating.
As long as they keep device price down, bootloader unlockable and release kernel sources everything will be fine with development community... That's all devs need.
MIUI fans are those that should worry...
Prices are likely to stay down.
The other two ... doubtful. Some people are already waiting 3 months for bootloader unlock codes. If that becomes the norm, that's development stone dead.
They've also done absolutely nothing about releasing kernels in a more timely fashion, despite promising it repeatedly over the last year. If anything they've gone up slightly.
People ignored the warning signs with Huawei, and others before them, or hoped for the best (I did). Look where we are now.
They actually released Max 3 kernel source pretty fast, less than a month after device launch...
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/nitrogen-o-oss?files=1
The thing is no custom roms coming out of China forums which makes me think this device has no China market success... That wasn't the case with first Max. Custom roms started popping up first week after release even without kernel source...
nijel8 said:
As long as they keep device price down, bootloader unlockable and release kernel sources everything will be fine with development community... That's all devs need.
MIUI fans are those that should worry...
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The problem is understanding real difference between the China & Global versions, how they decide to allow or not allow flashing of the 2 versions.
In the official announcement they imply this restriction is only for devices released under 2018.
On 4pda they seem to think that there is no actual hard difference ("model identifiers"?) between Global and Chinese Mi8, but there is for the respective Mi2s, for example.
If I read correctly.
https://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=906971&st=940#entry75262442
Looks like all restrictions are in bootloader - unlocking, ARB, market variant. There is no hardware differences/restrictions between any of the Max 3 variants period. Otherwise you will not be able to run different MIUI versions with unlocked bootloader.
devinfo partition keeps the bootloader unlocked status. Not sure where the bits defining China/Global device are kept... yet...
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Looks like all restrictions are in bootloader - unlocking, ARB, market variant. There is no hardware differences/restrictions between any of the Max 3 variants period. Otherwise you will not be able to run different MIUI versions with unlocked bootloader.
devinfo partition keeps the bootloader unlocked status. Not sure where the bits defining China/Global device are kept... yet...
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That may be but it's the people who flashed the Global Rom on a China device who have the problems
with phone calls / broken modem.
Would they have built in a restriction in the Global Rom so you could not install it on a
China device to work properly ???
We won't know till proper official Global rom shows up on en.miui.com. All I see right now are global roms from under the table so to speak full of bugs.
Most of us purchased the Mi Max 3 which was manufactured for the mainland China market, because the "global" variant of the phone was only released a few weeks ago in Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. If the official warning on the Xiaomi site that phone's manufactured for the Chinese market cannot flash global ROMs and vice versa, then our solution is to use the xiaomi.eu ROM. Xiaomi.eu is a modified version of the China ROM, but is entirely in English and other European languages with full Google framework services. The MIUI 10 8.8.9 China weekly development ROM available from xiaomi.eu is rock solid. Once Xiaomi releases a China stable MIUI 10 ROM for the Mi Max 3, xiaomi.eu will tweak and release it for the English speaking world, so for those who bought their Max 3's before a global variant was manufactured will be fine as long as they use xiaomi.eu.
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They actually released Max 3 kernel source pretty fast, less than a month after device launch...
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/nitrogen-o-oss?files=1
The thing is no custom roms coming out of China forums which makes me think this device has no China market success... That wasn't the case with first Max. Custom roms started popping up first week after release even without kernel source...
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I really hope that you will create some amazing custom roms for us
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They actually released Max 3 kernel source pretty fast, less than a month after device launch...
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/nitrogen-o-oss?files=1
The thing is no custom roms coming out of China forums which makes me think this device has no China market success... That wasn't the case with first Max. Custom roms started popping up first week after release even without kernel source...
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I'd be very surprised if this isn't selling well (very well) in China. It's an incredible value proposition, and large screen & large battery are seen as very desirable in both that and other Asian markets.
However, I think the 3 month wait for BL unlock *is* the norm now for Chinese and select other Asian users .. whereas rest of the world it appears to be totally random. Could be a couple of hours or it could be 3 months.
I think you'll find that's the reason why there's little to no Chinese development activity. As I said ... thin end of the wedge, IMO.
My redmi note 7 has been very good so far but I was always apprehensive purchasing it because of security. Has any one had any issues or found malware?.
Thanks.. edit I have the international version with stock/ original rom.
Do you mean in the original miui?
Of course it is not containing anything
But if you bought a china version and the shop installed a global "fake" rom, maybe it cointains, but just maybe, we can't be sure.
If your miui version don't match with the original: https://en.miui.com/download-360.html#582 then install the original and you'll be ok.
If it matches any original miui then you're ok and don't need to do anythin unless the version is ok for you.
it doesn't have malware, just a lot of bloatware and also advertising.
i highly recommend to flash with xiaomi.eu MIUI rom.
China ROM can contain something like that as China law allows it and companies are basically forced to do because government tells them to do. Thats what I have read somewhere about China phones and ROMs. Global and specialy EEA should be safe. As mentioned bloatware, adverts yes, but nothing more.