I was using my Samsung Note 4 as the head unit in my car to play music from my SD card by using the HDMI out into an HDMI to optical converter and from there optical out to my processor. It turns out my Note 4 took a dump and it is totally crippled. It locks and reboots itself randomly and frequently. So I was fed up and got a new S8. Today I received the USB Type-C MHL cable for the S8 and no cigar. The last time I had the same issue was when I was trying to get started with my Note 4 and the fix then was to just turn off bluetooth and it was fine. The S8 doesn't care that the bluetooth is on or off, it will not send the signal either way. For what is worth, the converter box is getting power with the new cable as the LED lights up, I think the issue must be with some phone setting. Has anyone encountered similar issues and was able to fix it?
I am left with no music in my car and any help to fix this will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
What? Couldn't even comprehend what you talking about.
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Use a Bluetooth connection. Sounds like your choice of setup is very complicated.
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The goal is to get a digital signal (HDMI) out of my phone, then convert it to another digital signal (optical) so I can use it in another device. The problem at hand is that the phone seems to NOT be sending this HDMI signal out. I had this working before with my Note 4 but the Note 4 is no more. I now have to get it working on the S8 and it seems it doesn't work the same way.
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Use a Bluetooth connection. Sounds like your choice of setup is very complicated.
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Bluetooth works but that is a compressed signal that has to go through my head unit (garbage) so if I do it that way I get terrible sound quality. doing it the way I described above I get crystal clear sound, which is the goal.
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The goal is to get a digital signal (HDMI) out of my phone, then convert it to another digital signal (optical) so I can use it in another device. The problem at hand is that the phone seems to NOT be sending this HDMI signal out. I had this working before with my Note 4 but the Note 4 is no more. I now have to get it working on the S8 and it seems it doesn't work the same way.
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Have you tried connecting it to a TV? That should tell you if the phone is outputting the HDMI signal. If that doesn't work, it should be either the phone or the new cable is faulty.
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Have you tried connecting it to a TV? That should tell you if the phone is outputting the HDMI signal. If that doesn't work, it should be either the phone or the new cable is faulty.
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Thanks, I was thinking about doing that. I'll try it after work tonight and post back.
@fcarpio
Any news? Did it work?
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I purchased a AV Audio Video TV Out CA-75U Cable Nokia from ebay hoping that this would give me tv out on my Vibrant. I read in another thread that this cable worked. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I've tried switching the cables, red for yellow ect and everything else mentioned in previous threads. I get audio but it buzzes pretty good and I get video that looks that your watching the old scrambled channels before digital cable came out. Anyone know about this cable specifically or can point me in the direction of a cheap cable that for sure will work for me? Thanks
P.S. I know that avatar won't play through the tv out. I've tested with other movie files and I've made sure the tv out is checked in settings along with NTSC. Thanks
hmmm... I used the cable that came with my camcorder and it works perfectly.
i bought this one off of ebay and it works perfectly for me
http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280371513499
Ok I'll give it a shot ..thanks ...hope this one works
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I purchased a AV Audio Video TV Out CA-75U Cable Nokia from ebay hoping that this would give me tv out on my Vibrant. I read in another thread that this cable worked. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I've tried switching the cables, red for yellow ect and everything else mentioned in previous threads. I get audio but it buzzes pretty good and I get video that looks that your watching the old scrambled channels before digital cable came out. Anyone know about this cable specifically or can point me in the direction of a cheap cable that for sure will work for me? Thanks
P.S. I know that avatar won't play through the tv out. I've tested with other movie files and I've made sure the tv out is checked in settings along with NTSC. Thanks
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I can tell you that if you plug in the cable without switching around the red and yellow you will short out your AV connection on some TV's. I shorted out mine by trying to match the colors.
Then I read about having to switch the colors and found out that the AV I had plugged it into no longer worked. Thanks Samsung. If they don't show up with a lagless stock Froyo before the freakin Dell Streak does, I am going to send them a bill for a TV.
Just an FYI. I have no idea if the Nokia cable works or not. I original purchased a cable that supposedly work but in the end didn't. I ended picking up a cable that works. Here is the pinout from the base to the tip.
First ring - Video
Second ring - Ground
Third ring - Right Audio
Tip - Left Audio
I ended up rewiring the one that didn't work and now I have 2 working RCA cables. You just have to be careful when rewiring since the cable is extremely thin. The one I originally purchased has the ground and video wires reverse.
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i bought this one off of ebay and it works perfectly for me
http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280371513499
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Thanks your ebay recommendation worked good. its also color coded the right way appreciate that. The nokia cable does not work people beware.
tacomaguy20 said:
Thanks your ebay recommendation worked good. its also color coded the right way appreciate that. The nokia cable does not work people beware.
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no problem, always glad to help.
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Hello, struggling to find anything similar to the issue I am having, sure one of you more tech savvy folk could help.
My car a 10 plate golf has a built in media port through which I can charge and use my media devices, however since receiving my S3 I cannot get it to work. The in car system display states 'media device not recognised.'
To work around this I bought an aux jack to jack and plugged in to it that way and this works fine whilst the phone is disconnected. However when I connect the phone to the usb to charge, it automatically defaults to media device not recognised and disconnects the aux.
My old phone had the same issue (HTC desire) however this could be set to usb charge only which would prevent the car system from trying to use it as a media device simply providing charge.
However, I do not appear to have this option on my shiny S3.
Does anyone have any ideas on how I could work around this? I do not really want to charge the phone using the cigarette lighter socket as this has fried other devices in the past.
Many thanks.
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However, I do not appear to have this option on my shiny S3.
Does anyone have any ideas on how I could work around this?
Many thanks.
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Hi, just so you know this isnt the S3 forum, it is the galaxy 3 forum, however I know the problem you are referring to and it happens because "charge only" support was removed from ICS onwards unfortunately. There are apps out there designed to get around this, so far Ive not actually found one that works. I would suggest posting your question in the S3 Section and the general android section as you are more likely to get an answer as and when someone comes up with a fix. hope that answers your question, sorry I couldnt be more help.
I have an extra set of logitech computer speakers I want to connect to listen to music on my tablet, but I can't get them working.
They are pretty much new and they work on my TV, WDTV and computer just fine using the same earphone jack adapter, but I get no sound when I plug them into my tablet.
I can plug earphones into the tablet and they work fine.
Anyone know why the pc speakers are not working?
interesting man...never trid this,have n7 from few days,but when i initially red this 3ad i thinked "well,impossible,it's OP only problems.."but when i tried my pc speakers on it (curiosity after reading this)i see that they don't works..strange!hope anyone can enlighten us!also my sound av receiver don't output the sound when connected on n7.on gnex works without problems..
i tried in a game...not in the music player yet,but i think it's the same beahviour..
I would guess there is a mechanical incompatibility with the plug, i.e. it doesn't quite fit. Can you post pictures of the working and non-working plugs?
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I would guess there is a mechanical incompatibility with the plug, i.e. it doesn't quite fit. Can you post pictures of the working and non-working plugs?
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Here's a picture of both plugs, they both seem to plug into the tablet the same amount and are identical as far as I can see other than being different colors.
Top one is the earphones
Not sure why, but when I did a factory reset on my tablet today the speakers work fine. Maybe it was an app or something interfering with it. Anyways, seems to be working now.
Has anyone seen any compatibility info with the 6P and Android Auto? I am sure there should be none, but I don't know if the USB-C would make a difference. I haven't seen any Android Auto info at all for the new Nexus models.
Thx!
Doubt it would matter, USB is backwards compatible if it's micro you would just need an adapter.
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Has anyone seen any compatibility info with the 6P and Android Auto? I am sure there should be none, but I don't know if the USB-C would make a difference. I haven't seen any Android Auto info at all for the new Nexus models.
Thx!
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Should hopefully work like normally, I'm gonna be using the USB-C to USB-A cable that comes in box for my car for Android Auto. Hopefully it works without any issues otherwise this would be a huge over site by Google and a huge deal-breaker for me because no way I'm not driving around with Android Auto (it has completely changed my commutes.)
Badouken said:
Should hopefully work like normally, I'm gonna be using the USB-C to USB-A cable that comes in box for my car for Android Auto. Hopefully it works without any issues otherwise this would be a huge over site by Google and a huge deal-breaker for me because no way I'm not driving around with Android Auto (it has completely changed my commutes.)
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I agree. Android Auto makes my long commute that much bearable. Now that Amazon Prime Music works with Auto too? Sweet
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Should hopefully work like normally, I'm gonna be using the USB-C to USB-A cable that comes in box for my car for Android Auto. Hopefully it works without any issues otherwise this would be a huge over site by Google and a huge deal-breaker for me because no way I'm not driving around with Android Auto (it has completely changed my commutes.)
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How's it worked out so far for you? I have no issues, so far so good. Always good to hear from other AA users since there aren't too many of us out there (yet)
Mine works fine using the cable I bought from Google.
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How's it worked out so far for you? I have no issues, so far so good. Always good to hear from other AA users since there aren't too many of us out there (yet)
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Ive had no issues so far! Its been amazing! Ive just been using the USB-C to USB-A cable that came with the 6P. Its the perfect length for this kinda thing!
I haven't had any problem at all. That short adapter cable is the perfect size for this. I just bought another, longer cable to use at home.
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I haven't had any problem at all. That short adapter cable is the perfect size for this. I just bought another, longer cable to use at home.
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Same here. I had my installer put the USB port in where the cigarette lighter plug was (I had two of these on my dash). So I bought a Brodit Proclip mount and the short USB OEM cable works great
What do you guys choose for a USB option when you plug in your device? I tried all the options and my car and AA app don't seem to recognize. Will try a new cable this afternoon.
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What do you guys choose for a USB option when you plug in your device? I tried all the options and my car and AA app don't seem to recognize. Will try a new cable this afternoon.
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Make sure you have android debugging on. It won't work without it.
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Make sure you have android debugging on. It won't work without it.
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That's not true. I'm using a USB A to C cable I ordered from Google and it works fine on a 4100NEX.
Thanks for the responses.
It ended up being a setting on my headunit that was incorrect. It was set by default to use MirrorLink and not Android Auto, switched it up and now works perfectly! :good:
Would like to reopen this discussion as I'm buying a VW Golf TSI 2016 that has a factory installed Android Auto unit. I tried it at the dealership and it was a pain to initially connect my N6P with original USB-C to USB-A cable. It did eventually work but I had to turn on debugging, remove my lock screen pattern/security (unit in the car was saying the phone was locked and it couldn't access it but it wasn't?) ... It ultimately worked but it was a pain to setup really (took over 10 minutes). And then Maps and phone worked, Google Music wouldn't had to unplug, force close Google Music and then replug and it worked ... I tried it in a 2016 Honda Civic too while shopping and fumbled around for 20+ minutes to get it to connect ; no luck. It bluetooth paired but it was like I hadn't plugged anything in the USB port.
Of note ; in both case I compared with iPhones/Car Play : plug it in and within 3 to 5 seconds, everything is setup.
I'd be curious to see if anyone here has experience with 2016 VWs and how easy (or hard) it is to get it to connect? If I have to fumble around in the settings for a few minutes everytime I get in the car, that's a major bummer. Will try again tonight before signing paperwork.
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Would like to reopen this discussion as I'm buying a VW Golf TSI 2016 that has a factory installed Android Auto unit. I tried it at the dealership and it was a pain to initially connect my N6P with original USB-C to USB-A cable. It did eventually work but I had to turn on debugging, remove my lock screen pattern/security (unit in the car was saying the phone was locked and it couldn't access it but it wasn't?) ... It ultimately worked but it was a pain to setup really (took over 10 minutes). And then Maps and phone worked, Google Music wouldn't had to unplug, force close Google Music and then replug and it worked ... I tried it in a 2016 Honda Civic too while shopping and fumbled around for 20+ minutes to get it to connect ; no luck. It bluetooth paired but it was like I hadn't plugged anything in the USB port.
Of note ; in both case I compared with iPhones/Car Play : plug it in and within 3 to 5 seconds, everything is setup.
I'd be curious to see if anyone here has experience with 2016 VWs and how easy (or hard) it is to get it to connect? If I have to fumble around in the settings for a few minutes everytime I get in the car, that's a major bummer. Will try again tonight before signing paperwork.
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Sounds like an issue with VW. My Android Auto (non-VW), set up fine. And to this day, I can use Android Auto without disabling my pattern lock.
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Sounds like an issue with VW. My Android Auto (non-VW), set up fine. And to this day, I can use Android Auto without disabling my pattern lock.
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Ok so ended up buying the VW and Android Auto took some time to setup the first time around but nothing as painful as when I was at the dealership. So far, 98% of the time I plugged my phone in Android Auto started within 5 seconds or so. On 2 occasions it failed to launch. One time it was kind of stuck in a loop where it would connect via Bluetooth, disconnect, try to connect via USB, fail, reconnect via Bluetooth, disconnect (and start over again endlessly). I had to unplug it and restart the car for it to work but that happened only once so...
Everything works flawlessly and is well integrated with the VW infotainment system (Google Maps voice instructions will play on top of FM radio or Sirius XM and only lower the volume of whatever is playing a tadbit, I actually did not expect that (I was expecting the sound to cut completely and then come back once Google Maps is done telling me XYZ instruction)).
2016 Kia Optimia & N6P Connection Issues
Hello,
I have a new 2016 Kia Optima and I'm been fooling around with this for 2 weeks and I can't get it connected. Here's what I've done.
-tried different cables which includes the short one that was shipped with the unit
- factory reset of the device
- turned degging off and on
- uninstalled the android app
- turned wireless off and removed the connection (that's what the Kia rep told me to do)
The only thing that I get when connected it the options to choose what to do when connected via USB. I've toggle all of them and have toggled the off and on ADD new cars to android auto button till I'm blue in the face.
Right now I'm all out for suggestions. Does anyone have any idea? It will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ron
Anyone else having a problem with no notification sound when receiving a text message. I can see the message pop up on screen but I have to be looking at the screen or I will miss the message. Happens with Messenger and Hangouts. Nexus 6P is full stock with latest firmware. Head unit is a Kenwood DDX9702S with the latest firmware.
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Anyone else having a problem with no notification sound when receiving a text message. I can see the message pop up on screen but I have to be looking at the screen or I will miss the message. Happens with Messenger and Hangouts. Nexus 6P is full stock with latest firmware. Head unit is a Kenwood DDX9702S with the latest firmware.
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Have you tried raising the 'alert' level, available at the right side of the screen when you adjust volume levels?
Solutions Etcetera said:
Have you tried raising the 'alert' level, available at the right side of the screen when you adjust volume levels?
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I'm having the same problem. Will try that and report back.
Had Iphone 6 USB on my 2011 Buick Regal USB Audio worked flawless, my wife's phone LG G4 works great.
Got tired of apple & decided to go with Samsung Note 4 now I cant get it to work, tried multiple cables, update to Lollipop 5.0 & 5.1 & none of these worked.
Called Buick they said I should use AUX cable instead, obviously I did not like that response.
DoI need to root? or is this a lost cause.
Silverobot said:
Had Iphone 6 USB on my 2011 Buick Regal USB Audio worked flawless, my wife's phone LG G4 works great.
Got tired of apple & decided to go with Samsung Note 4 now I cant get it to work, tried multiple cables, update to Lollipop 5.0 & 5.1 & none of these worked.
Called Buick they said I should use AUX cable instead, obviously I did not like that response.
DoI need to root? or is this a lost cause.
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I would post a link to a website with pictures and information about what you are talking about as I have no idea what that is.
Once I understand what exactly it is I might be able help.
Just guessing but are you talking about some kind of headphone cable that uses USB to connect instead of jack?
Sent from my Note 10.1 2015 (Special Edition)
Zionator said:
I would post a link to a website with pictures and information about what you are talking about as I have no idea what that is.
Once I understand what exactly it is I might be able help.
Just guessing but are you talking about some kind of headphone cable that uses USB to connect instead of jack?
Sent from my Note 10.1 2015 (Special Edition)
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edmunds (dot) com/buick/regal/2011/long-term-road-test/2011-buick-regal-cxl-turbo-pop-out-usb-port.html
Link attached is the USB port in car, you plug in any IOS device or LG apparently & it picks up the audio being played.
The Bluetooth feature doesn't support audio, was relying on the USB port to play music in car over Google Play.
Before getting android I tried a Samsung S4 Active & it would appear it registered it but would immediately disconnect on both sides.
I figured it was hardware side as my wifes LG G4 worked perfect decided to switch my iPhone for a Note 4 & when I plug it in the USB nothing happens.
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edmunds (dot) com/buick/regal/2011/long-term-road-test/2011-buick-regal-cxl-turbo-pop-out-usb-port.html
Link attached is the USB port in car, you plug in any IOS device or LG apparently & it picks up the audio being played.
The Bluetooth feature doesn't support audio, was relying on the USB port to play music in car over Google Play.
Before getting android I tried a Samsung S4 Active & it would appear it registered it but would immediately disconnect on both sides.
I figured it was hardware side as my wifes LG G4 worked perfect decided to switch my iPhone for a Note 4 & when I plug it in the USB nothing happens.
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OK link is useless as I cannot click it.
Have you checked if the company you got the USB from makes any kind of app or driver to use on some android phones?
I can assure you Bluetooth audio works very well as I use it often with my Bluetooth speakers. I also used it to stream music to my Sony car stereo via Bluetooth.
I have never used the USB to stream music but I know that there is an app that does some thing to make phone simulate a USB stick so if you where to connect the phone via USB to a stereo deck it would play the music on the deck from the phone.
Sadly I cannot remember what it was called.
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OK link is useless as I cannot click it.
Have you checked if the company you got the USB from makes any kind of app or driver to use on some android phones?
I can assure you Bluetooth audio works very well as I use it often with my Bluetooth speakers. I also used it to stream music to my Sony car stereo via Bluetooth.
I have never used the USB to stream music but I know that there is an app that does some thing to make phone simulate a USB stick so if you where to connect the phone via USB to a stereo deck it would play the music on the deck from the phone.
Sadly I cannot remember what it was called.
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copy link & replace (Dot) with a . , 2011 Buick does not support Bluetooth audio.
I've heard of this app but it required root, I'd be willing to root the phone but the amount of Firmware & versions seems like asking for trouble.
T-mobile Note 4
Silverobot said:
copy link & replace (Dot) with a . , 2011 Buick does not support Bluetooth audio.
I've heard of this app but it required root, I'd be willing to root the phone but the amount of Firmware & versions seems like asking for trouble.
T-mobile Note 4
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Well I can't copy as I use tapatalk.
www.google.com
Easy to make a clickeble link.
OK so that buick thing is not the USB cable so I assume it's some kind of speaker system.
Regarding the root. Custom roms are much better then bloated stock roms in my opinion so it's well worth it and specially now that Note 5 ports are out.
Plus even if you wish to keep stock rom just rooting it will give you full ownership over your phone but nonrooted users can't really say the own there phones as both Samsung and phone company have more control over your phone then you ?
Anyways I strongly suggest you at least root the phone. No need to change firmware if you don't want to but the rooting process alone will give you unlimited freedom with the phone beyond the possibility of icrap can offer with jailbreak.
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copy link & replace (Dot) with a . , 2011 Buick does not support Bluetooth audio.
I've heard of this app but it required root, I'd be willing to root the phone but the amount of Firmware & versions seems like asking for trouble.
T-mobile Note 4
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Do you stream through USB or using MTP & treat your Phone as a USB Storage?
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I found this thread & I hope it will help you.
USB Flash Drive use in Audio System
There's a possibility that your Note 4 microSD card was formatted using exFAT & the "old" Buick USB system can't recognize it.
Try to use FAT32 (with its inferiority towards exFAT).
Another solution is using AUX (Draining Note 4 battery)
Last resort is using USB flash drive
NOTE:
Some system can only recognize limited size of USB storage.
Some are limited only to 4 GB, some can only read 32GB & won't read anything with larger capacity.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Do you stream through USB or using MTP & treat your Phone as a USB Storage?
EDIT:
I found this thread & I hope it will help you.
There's a possibility that your Note 4 microSD card was formatted using exFAT & the "old" Buick USB system can't recognize it.
Try to use FAT32 (with its inferiority towards exFAT).
Another solution is using AUX (Draining Note 4 battery)
Last resort is using USB flash drive
NOTE:
Some system can only recognize limited size of USB storage.
Some are limited only to 4 GB, some can only read 32GB & won't read anything with larger capacity.
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Stream over USB going to see what I can think of, was going to get LG phone but was told not to did not expect Samsung to have these issues but def going to root now. Thank you
Silverobot said:
Stream over USB going to see what I can think of, was going to get LG phone but was told not to did not expect Samsung to have these issues but def going to root now. Thank you
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Sorry for asking this, but do you know what streaming means? (no offense )
If you are streaming the music, it means you are playing the music from your Mobile Phone & direct the sound out of it through either USB, Bluetooth or AUX.
So Streaming will drain your Phone battery.
Usually, car USB system doesn't do this.
Car USB system usually access any device connected through USB as a USB Mass Storage Device & then play the content using its own built in Audio System.
Have you checked the link I gave you?
d4rkkn16ht said:
Sorry for asking this, but do you know what streaming means? (no offense )
If you are streaming the music, it means you are playing the music from your Mobile Phone & direct the sound out of it through either USB, Bluetooth or AUX.
So Streaming will drain your Phone battery.
Usually, car USB system doesn't do this.
Car USB system usually access any device connected through USB as a USB Mass Storage Device & then play the content using its own built in Audio System.
Have you checked the link I gave you?
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My car USB does have this feature can play audio of a youtube vid, google play radio, pandora, ect over USB on selected devices it seems.
As stated above it works fine with an LG & IOS phones but has yet to work on Samsung.
Thought there could be a quick fix out there, but that doesnt seem to be the case.
More likely going to swap my phone out for an LG if I can find someone willing.
Worst case scenario I have a iphone 4 which I will use via hotspot in the car.
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My car USB does have this feature can play audio of a youtube vid, google play radio, pandora, ect over USB on selected devices it seems.
As stated above it works fine with an LG & IOS phones but has yet to work on Samsung.
Thought there could be a quick fix out there, but that doesnt seem to be the case.
More likely going to swap my phone out for an LG if I can find someone willing.
Worst case scenario I have a iphone 4 which I will use via hotspot in the car.
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Do you mean that you play your media on your Car System?
If you do, then check your microSD.
May be your LG use FAT32 for its microSD & Note 4 use exFAT for its microSD.
Some 2011 car systems can't recognize exFAT filesystem.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Do you mean that you play your media on your Car System?
If you do, then check your microSD.
May be your LG use FAT32 for its microSD & Note 4 use exFAT for its microSD.
Some 2011 car systems can't recognize exFAT filesystem.
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Thanks for suggestion but it did not work, for the meantime using an Iphone 4 via hotspot for my normal commute I just use FM radio.
Was thinking maybe I can have hotspot automatically turn on when I'm in my car but that might be too much to ask for with current technology.
You win some, you lose some this one I lost no one interested in changing Note 4 for LG G4 in my area.