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I am waiting for CM, not yet unlocked/rooted: Do I update to B27?

I basically am holding out switching my daily driver to the Axon 7 until we have a fully functional CM or other clean ROM with root capability. My Axon 7 is on B20, and I got the update notification. Any reason I should avoid going to B27?
My concern is that we've found an unlock workaround for B20 but I am not clear if it works on B27, and I don't think ZTE has re-opened unlocking after the B27 update. So is updating a big risk that I won't be able to unlock/install CM when it is feature-functional?

I'll be very simple and easy answer.
Yes , Unlock Bootloader with know method base on B20 and you'll still be able to get goodies

DrakenFX said:
I'll be very simple and easy answer.
Yes , Unlock Bootloader with know method base on B20 and you'll still be able to get goodies
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I am sorry, I am interested too in this topics and I do not understand well.
If I unlock the bootloader on the B20 and root the phone, can I simply update the smartphone at the B27 (and others) with the ZTE OTA updates without brick the phone or lost the unlock bootloader?
Thanks
Edit: I found the asnwer in an other topic, I am sorry.

youngz89 said:
I am sorry, I am interested too in this topics and I do not understand well.
If I unlock the bootloader on the B20 and root the phone, can I simply update the smartphone at the B27 (and others) with the ZTE OTA updates without brick the phone or lost the unlock bootloader?
Thanks
Edit: I found the asnwer in an other topic, I am sorry.
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No problem, in your case just unlock bootloader and get the update.
No need to root till you are B27.

DrakenFX said:
No problem, in your case just unlock bootloader and get the update.
No need to root till you are B27.
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Cool, so if I unlock my bootloader on B20, I can do the OTA update to B27 and that won't cause problems? Can I install TWRP on B20 without breaking updates?

Bootloader unlocked = no more OTAs for you.

DrakenFX got us from unlocked B20 to unlocked B27 - I have faith in him

RedWave31 said:
Bootloader unlocked = no more OTAs for you.
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I've unlocked my bootloader on B20 and was able to upgrade to B27 with no issues.
Stock B20 -> Upgrade to B20_Boot -> Unlocked bootloader -> Downgraded back to B20 -> Upgraded to B27 -> Bootloader still unlocked

xtermmin said:
I've unlocked my bootloader on B20 and was able to upgrade to B27 with no issues.
Stock B20 -> Upgrade to B20_Boot -> Unlocked bootloader -> Downgraded back to B20 -> Upgraded to B27 -> Bootloader still unlocked
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Oh, of course you can UPDATE. You just can't do it via a "real" OTA : you have to go here, get the files, apply modded updates via sdcard.

RedWave31 said:
Oh, of course you can UPDATE. You just can't do it via a "real" OTA : you have to go here, get the files, apply modded updates via sdcard.
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What about receiving OTAs on rooted devices that haven't unlocked the bootloader?
I'm on B27 and I've been waiting for some progress before unlocking or rooting due to the plethora of issues reported like broken wifi, or camera, etc, but I'm getting tired of BS that could be dealt with if I had root such as the insufferable YouTube ads. I'm not going to watch an unskippable 30 second ad for a 2 minute video. I looked into it and the process of simply rooting it seems pretty convoluted (requiring drivers, flashing multiple things, etc) and some parts are ambiguous. For example there was no specific instructions, on the guide I was looking at, about how to install TWRP which I want to see stated clearly since again there are reports of people screwing up their phones simply trying to install that.
I'm kind of surprised there isn't an all-encompassing sticky with links to every possible issue and how to resolve them and I'm sitting here wondering if there's every going to be solid support for this device with easy root/unlock/recovery/updates like other flagships have.

Cyrus D. said:
I'm kind of surprised there isn't an all-encompassing sticky with links to every possible issue and how to resolve them and I'm sitting here wondering if there's every going to be solid support for this device with easy root/unlock/recovery/updates like other flagships have.
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You might be looking for this thread?
About B27 and Cyanogen
- From what I've read, you still have to downgrade to B20 to unlock/root/twrp then update to B27 using modified files.
- Once you got TWRP, you have several options to restore your phone in case of problems (despite full stock firmwares being limited to EU models - officially)
- From the actual state of Cyanogen, to me, you're better off unlocking+rooting and using xposed than installing CM
- Unfortunately, the systemless root isn't compatible with Xposed (and likely will never be) so you don't have a "temporary" solution
- Think about us poor A2016G users in europe
About Root+OTA's
- If you have systemless Root, you can have the OTAs, but it will wipe the root...
About TWRP, if I remember correctly there is one requirement:
- Being unlocked (Guide here)
- Installing it (Guide here)
I am, myself, waiting for a repartition tool, because 14GB being used by system is making my eyes roll so hard I'm getting motion sickness. A stock MM build is 400MB today, and I can't believe there is 13.5GB worth of camera and wallpapers in here (so, wasted space)
- We can dream it's here for the Nougat Dual Boot system, but even then, 14GB !!!

RedWave31 said:
Oh, of course you can UPDATE. You just can't do it via a "real" OTA : you have to go here, get the files, apply modded updates via sdcard.
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Nope. I used the official ZTE OTA update that I grabbed from ZTE servers myself. I did not use any sort of modified update. Yes, I did sideload it via sdcard, but that was because I didn't want to bother connecting to the network. I used ZTE's official update and applied it through the stock recovery fine.
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- From what I've read, you still have to downgrade to B20 to unlock/root/twrp then update to B27 using modified files.
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See above. Did not have to use modified to update from stock B20 (with unlocked bootloader) to stock B27 (still with unlocked bootloader).

I am interested in this post as I am in the same boot. I am kind of waiting for stock firmwares before I start messing around because things have gone wrong it the past that only a fresh install have fixed. I am good with my current build and am just missing xposed and all the ad block features.

xtermmin said:
Nope. I used the official ZTE OTA update that I grabbed from ZTE servers myself. I did not use any sort of modified update. Yes, I did sideload it via sdcard, but that was because I didn't want to bother connecting to the network. I used ZTE's official update and applied it through the stock recovery fine.
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See above. Did not have to use modified to update from stock B20 (with unlocked bootloader) to stock B27 (still with unlocked bootloader).
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My bad, I just assumed that unlocked meant modified recovery with TWRP (and in that situation, it seems OTA won't work). "Just" unlocking the bootloader with everything else stock is usually rare.

HELP, Can I downgrade to Stock Marshmallow and Upgrade to Nougat?

Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again

inFiniTyz_Z said:
Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again
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If you wish to simply re-lock your bootloader, the easiest thing is to flash this fastboot stock ROM (which is Nougat) and use the locking script as directed in the first post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 Of course, this may wipe your data - so back up, and the relocking may or may not work, in which case you may have to wait for a more up to date fastboot stock ROM to become available.
If you were to downgrade to Marshmallow, you cannot downgrade your bootloader and GPT partitions, at best, your existing bootloader would try to prevent you from downgrading those partitions. At worst, you'll brick your device again if you were to flash those - though we've got possible ways of fixing that, it's not a route I'd want to go down. Flashing the rest of Marshmallow is no problem, however, ensure you have the correct MM firmware for your device and territory.

Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?

inFiniTyz_Z said:
Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?
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Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.

echo92 said:
Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.
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THANK YOU IT WORKED AND THE WARNING DISAPPEARED. I am on Nougat, locked and its working like a charm
I WOULD KISS YOUR BUTT IF ITS HAVE TO BE

Oneplus5 update

Hey guys
I have a question. I just recovered my phone from updating to Oreo, had bootloop all night and I painstakingly recovered to stock recovery and the earliest stock image possible, 4.5.3. My question is, do I have to go through all the updates one at a time ? For example from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 and from 4.5.4 to 4.5.5 and so on ? Or can I update directly to 4.5.15 ? I'm definitely staying of Oreo. My phone is currently encrypted, not rooted, on stock recovery and the bootloader is unlocked. If I have to go through the updates one at a time, could you please provide a set of instructions to follow ? Like the steps necessary so I don't brick my phone again from the updating. Thanks !

You don't have to do all the update, a 1 time oreo full rom flash will be sufficient. Follow this instruction from HatRiGt and you're good to go
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/official-stable-oxygen-os-5-0-update-t3724247

Bobbyshmurdapea said:
Hey guys
I have a question. I just recovered my phone from updating to Oreo, had bootloop all night and I painstakingly recovered to stock recovery and the earliest stock image possible, 4.5.3. My question is, do I have to go through all the updates one at a time ? For example from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 and from 4.5.4 to 4.5.5 and so on ? Or can I update directly to 4.5.15 ? I'm definitely staying of Oreo. My phone is currently encrypted, not rooted, on stock recovery and the bootloader is unlocked. If I have to go through the updates one at a time, could you please provide a set of instructions to follow ? Like the steps necessary so I don't brick my phone again from the updating. Thanks !
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i was having the same problem as u, so i've search for the solution and found this thread works for m. hope it's help

Heip with G5 plus non-rooted phone with unlocked bootloader running August 2018 8.1

Hello,
I've just bought a second-hand moto G5 Plus that had a custom rom installed on it, I'm guessing it was also rooted at some point. It currently has the Aug 1 2018 version of 8.1:
build #: OPS28.85-13
It's been a while since I've messed about with flashing phones, so I wanted to ask for some assistance before potentially bricking the poor thing.
Ideally, I'd like to get it back on the stock update channel, so it can get OTA updates, but with root -- if that's not possible, I'd be almost as happy to just flash a Sept 1 2018 build (which my other 100% stock G5 plus already has) and root it. I've looked at a few posts here, notably this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
Though not knowing the exact history of the device, I'm reluctant to just follow the instructions. Can anyone provide some insight as to the safe(st) procedure?
Thanks!
-pir

You can't have root and receive updates from official channel at the same time.. the bootloader need to be locked to recieve updates.. you can however flash twrp on the device.. flash the stock rom( you will find latest in the forums).. and when the updates come out someone will capture it and make a flashabe zip, so you just need to flash that.. you can have root that way and stay updated.. cause from what I've read so far you don't get OTA when you're bootloader is unlocked..

That makes sense. So I guess the moto software won't even attempt an update if the bootloader is unlocked? Thanks!

Unlocked bootloader won't make any difference. The OTA update checks the system files and bootloader. If you have made any modifications to the system, kernel, or are running an older bootloader version the update will fail. Lock status of the bootloader makes no difference.
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Moto g5 plus stock ROM

I'm having Moto g5 plus Indian variant xt1686. I have installed a custom ROM Resurrection remix and I'm currently running it.I want to get back to stock rom. I went through many existing threads only to get myself confused. I want you guys to help me get back to stock ROM so that I can get OTA updates.
1. I have working volte and IMEI till now. I didn't take back-up of persist or efs as I was lacking knowledge. Can I take back-up of those now for going back to stock. If yes then suggest how?
2. I don't remember my build number from which I unlocked my bootloader. Should I lock the bootloader again to get OTA? If not then please suggest any way to get back to stock whether Oreo or nougat (get updates to Oreo then).

kash664 said:
I'm having Moto g5 plus Indian variant xt1686. I have installed a custom ROM Resurrection remix and I'm currently running it.I want to get back to stock rom. I went through many existing threads only to get myself confused. I want you guys to help me get back to stock ROM so that I can get OTA updates.
1. I have working volte and IMEI till now. I didn't take back-up of persist or efs as I was lacking knowledge. Can I take back-up of those now for going back to stock. If yes then suggest how?
2. I don't remember my build number from which I unlocked my bootloader. Should I lock the bootloader again to get OTA? If not then please suggest any way to get back to stock whether Oreo or nougat (get updates to Oreo then).
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From what I believe, you should definitely backup your EFS and Persist right now while it's all good.
If you don't remember your last stock build number, it is safe to use the latest build for your region.
Once you flash a fastboot ROM and everything's good to go, there's absolutely no need to relock bootloader as the script in the OTA only checks for system modifications and if it finds any on your phone, the OTA will not be applied and the update will eventually fail. To ensure that you are able to apply OTAs without any hassle, I recommend you don't do ANY system modifications like root or camera mods or similar. Stick with the core OS and you'll be good to go.
You can alternatively use TWRP flashable ROMs by @NZedPred, they're like a newbie-proof solution to getting to stock ROM from virtually any ROM without losing any functionality as they only flash the OS part of the ROM and rarely do any changes to the HW functionality of the ROM like Radios and Sensors. If all else fails, you can always flash a TWRP flashable stock and be ready to go.
Or
You could simply download the Oreo fastboot ROM with the August security patch which is available at the moment but isn't the latest one as the latest October security patch rolled out to RETIN devices just a few days ago so I doubt that the full fastboot ROM would be available this early. But then again, if you flash the Oreo August patch, you can take the OTA to October patch and be just fine.
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But a bit of advice, if you're planning to go back to Nougat using a Nougat fastboot ROM, I'd highly recommend the TWRP flashable as one can mess stuff up while trying to downgrade using a fastboot ROM as Moto phones have problems downgrading. It's all about these two partitions called "gpt" and "bootloader" which when not paying attention to while flashing can cause a hard-brick.
A safer approach would be to skip these two partitions while using a fastboot ROM to downgrade but I'd be honest and would suggest you to wait to be sure this would work as I myself haven't tried this while downgrading from one Android version to another as Oreo bought with itself some Modem and a few other changes in partitions as compared to Nougat.
If I were you, I would wait for some to confirm the part in the "Note" just to be absolutely sure that it'd work.

Thanks for the response
Thanks for your response.
I'll be going with your suggestion and flash the twrp flashable oreo.

psychopac said:
From what I believe, you should definitely backup your EFS and Persist right now while it's all good.
If you don't remember your last stock build number, it is safe to use the latest build for your region.
Once you flash a fastboot ROM and everything's good to go, there's absolutely no need to relock bootloader as the script in the OTA only checks for system modifications and if it finds any on your phone, the OTA will not be applied and the update will eventually fail. To ensure that you are able to apply OTAs without any hassle, I recommend you don't do ANY system modifications like root or camera mods or similar. Stick with the core OS and you'll be good to go.
You can alternatively use TWRP flashable ROMs by @NZedPred, they're like a newbie-proof solution to getting to stock ROM from virtually any ROM without losing any functionality as they only flash the OS part of the ROM and rarely do any changes to the HW functionality of the ROM like Radios and Sensors. If all else fails, you can always flash a TWRP flashable stock and be ready to go.
Or
You could simply download the Oreo fastboot ROM with the August security patch which is available at the moment but isn't the latest one as the latest October security patch rolled out to RETIN devices just a few days ago so I doubt that the full fastboot ROM would be available this early. But then again, if you flash the Oreo August patch, you can take the OTA to October patch and be just fine.
Note:
But a bit of advice, if you're planning to go back to Nougat using a Nougat fastboot ROM, I'd highly recommend the TWRP flashable as one can mess stuff up while trying to downgrade using a fastboot ROM as Moto phones have problems downgrading. It's all about these two partitions called "gpt" and "bootloader" which when not paying attention to while flashing can cause a hard-brick.
A safer approach would be to skip these two partitions while using a fastboot ROM to downgrade but I'd be honest and would suggest you to wait to be sure this would work as I myself haven't tried this while downgrading from one Android version to another as Oreo bought with itself some Modem and a few other changes in partitions as compared to Nougat.
If I were you, I would wait for some to confirm the part in the "Note" just to be absolutely sure that it'd work.
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Thanks for your response.
I'll be going with your suggestion and flash the twrp flashable oreo.

kash664 said:
Thanks for your response.
I'll be going with your suggestion and flash the twrp flashable oreo.
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Make sure to follow the flashing instructions mentioned by the thread OP properly

psychopac said:
Make sure to follow the flashing instructions mentioned by the thread OP properly
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Yes. Hope everything turns out fine

kash664 said:
I'm having Moto g5 plus Indian variant xt1686. I have installed a custom ROM Resurrection remix and I'm currently running it.I want to get back to stock rom. I went through many existing threads only to get myself confused. I want you guys to help me get back to stock ROM so that I can get OTA updates.
1. I have working volte and IMEI till now. I didn't take back-up of persist or efs as I was lacking knowledge. Can I take back-up of those now for going back to stock. If yes then suggest how?
2. I don't remember my build number from which I unlocked my bootloader. Should I lock the bootloader again to get OTA? If not then please suggest any way to get back to stock whether Oreo or nougat (get updates to Oreo then).
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I hope i can help !!

vishalrickz said:
I hope i can help !!
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Sure sir