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Hi all first lg phone ever.always been a htc fan.as my contract was up this month. i decided That the htc m8 was not worth the upgrade from my m7. So here i am a proper LG phone virgin
me too, just joined this sub-forum, coming from the Nexus 4 end. Gotta say this G3 is a step up from the Nexus. Just got to figure a way out to delete all the LG crap, especially the McAffee anti virus. Anyone know how to get shot of unwanted apps, was easy with the nexus.
I rooted my G3 with this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2850906
Then deleted all the LG and AT&T bloat ware with titanium backup...
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UK-Sense said:
me too, just joined this sub-forum, coming from the Nexus 4 end. Gotta say this G3 is a step up from the Nexus. Just got to figure a way out to delete all the LG crap, especially the McAffee anti virus. Anyone know how to get shot of unwanted apps, was easy with the nexus.
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Disable it. Settings-Apps-find the app, click it-hit Disable. If you cannot disable it, then you will have to root and freeze it with Titanium.
GoogleAndroid said:
Disable it. Settings-Apps-find the app, click it-hit Disable. If you cannot disable it, then you will have to root and freeze it with Titanium.
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I have already disabled a few apps but I want to delete them totally, they are just using space up. Cannot root as my two banking apps will not run and neither will Sky Go
UK-Sense said:
I have already disabled a few apps but I want to delete them totally, they are just using space up. Cannot root as my two banking apps will not run and neither will Sky Go
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I don't believe you can without root. You could root, remove them, and use a root hider for the apps that won't work with root.
UK-Sense said:
I have already disabled a few apps but I want to delete them totally, they are just using space up. Cannot root as my two banking apps will not run and neither will Sky Go
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root doesn't break apps. Root is just a permissions thing. IT's like gaining admin access and nothing more. Unless I'm sorely mistaken about some unique thing with the G3 root exploit I've never heard of root breaking an app.
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root doesn't break apps. Root is just a permissions thing. IT's like gaining admin access and nothing more. Unless I'm sorely mistaken about some unique thing with the G3 root exploit I've never heard of root breaking an app.
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Well there are several apps that don't work with root.
thats strange because I haven't noticed. I rooted my G3 as soon as I got home with it and I didn't have any apps break due to it. I don't use all the apps though and froze a lot of them. Perhaps the ones it "breaks" are those I don't use. Can you tell me which apps having root breaks because I'd like to check that out because in almost 4 years of rooting my past 5 phones I've never encountered root breaking an app.
Isis/softcard can read if you can get root permissions and displays an error message, but if you use rootcloak from xposed framework, it'll run just fine.
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UK-Sense said:
I have already disabled a few apps but I want to delete them totally, they are just using space up. Cannot root as my two banking apps will not run and neither will Sky Go
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Yeah you can. All you gotta do is, root with Stump, get superSU from playstore and then get titanium, do what you gotta do and then go to superSU and "Unroot".
That option deletes root. Goodluck
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thats strange because I haven't noticed. I rooted my G3 as soon as I got home with it and I didn't have any apps break due to it. I don't use all the apps though and froze a lot of them. Perhaps the ones it "breaks" are those I don't use. Can you tell me which apps having root breaks because I'd like to check that out because in almost 4 years of rooting my past 5 phones I've never encountered root breaking an app.
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well the two main ones for me are Halifax Banking and Sky Go. Also the Barclays banking app will not work. When you try to run them you get a message saying "Sorry we do not support rooted phones".
As it happens I have now moved a few apps to my SD card so have freed up a bit of space which was my main reason for my original post, I rather like the LG way of doing things, much better than Sense and definitely better than TW, so might just keep it stock :good:
Also my first LG phone been 4 days and I love it!! First thing I did was root with Towelroot the easiest I've ever rooted an android. With root everything is the way I want it now and so much less bloatware then my S4 had.
Really happy with this phone and quickly got use the buttons in the back which I find much easier.
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thats strange because I haven't noticed. I rooted my G3 as soon as I got home with it and I didn't have any apps break due to it. I don't use all the apps though and froze a lot of them. Perhaps the ones it "breaks" are those I don't use. Can you tell me which apps having root breaks because I'd like to check that out because in almost 4 years of rooting my past 5 phones I've never encountered root breaking an app.
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Banking apps, not all but the ones I use don't work plus sky go.
I haven't updated and I have plenty of devices that are rooted, but it's always usually a hassle, usually stuff breaks and not everything works. The main reason I like to root. Is to remove bloatware and change some main features. What for you guys is the selling point to root your phone?
I haven't done it yet, but I like to have it to increase battery life to the max and remove ads.
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I haven't done it yet, but I like to have it to increase battery life to the max and remove ads.
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it's root... If that doesn't sell you... then buy an iPhone.
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it's root... If that doesn't sell you... then buy an iPhone.
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Are you referring to me or TC? I'm just telling him what I like root for and what its selling point for me is.
Even then, an iPhone still can't do as much as stock Android phones. I just haven't the time to do root on my S7 Edge because I'm still speculating on whether the bugs will be fixed and all (such as making Samsung Pay work).
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Are you referring to me or TC? I'm just telling him what I like root for and what its selling point for me is.
Even then, an iPhone still can't do as much as stock Android phones. I just haven't the time to do root on my S7 Edge because I'm still speculating on whether the bugs will be fixed and all (such as making Samsung Pay work).
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Sorry, I was just being a douche to the OP....
I'm on apd2 just got the phone today. Is that version rootable?
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alsgarage said:
I'm on apd2 just got the phone today. Is that version rootable?
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Yup and PE1 is also.
Doesn't look like anyone is selling this person on root. I'll try.
I have rooted my phones in the past but going to stay away from it for now on the S7 Edge because of Samsung Pay.
Best reasons to root from my perspective, off the top of my head:
Titanium backup! This is one of the things I miss the most.
Xposed Modules: GravityBox (love playing and tweaking the settings), YouTube Adaway (if you don't have a Red account, use this)
Viper4Android (best audio tweaking/enhancing mod for any phone)
Liveboot (changes boot animation, love this one)
There's this thing called Lucky Patcher but you can research that on your own
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Doesn't look like anyone is selling this person on root. I'll try.
I have rooted my phones in the past but going to stay away from it for now on the S7 Edge because of Samsung Pay.
Best reasons to root from my perspective, off the top of my head:
Titanium backup! This is one of the things I miss the most.
Xposed Modules: GravityBox (love playing and tweaking the settings), YouTube Adaway (if you don't have a Red account, use this)
Viper4Android (best audio tweaking/enhancing mod for any phone)
Liveboot (changes boot animation, love this one)
There's this thing called Lucky Patcher but you can research that on your own
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See, that's why I'm swaying my mind about root. Samsung Pay is extraordinarily versatile and it actually accepted one of my credit cards for use. I have NEVER used Samsung Pay in a real life situation yet since I haven't a need to, but I would like to keep my options opened in case I do forget my wallet and all.
Whyyyyyyy? >_<
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See, that's why I'm swaying my mind about root. Samsung Pay is extraordinarily versatile and it actually accepted one of my credit cards for use. I have NEVER used Samsung Pay in a real life situation yet since I haven't a need to, but I would like to keep my options opened in case I do forget my wallet and all.
Whyyyyyyy? >_<
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You should really try it out sooner rather than later. There are such great things with root and you currently have nothing keeping you from doing it. You can always go back to stock to use SPay, but at least decide if you would like it or not.
Actually, if you live in the US, make three small purchases between now and August 2nd to get a free $10 Amazon gift card. It's the current promo going on right now. Although you may want to waif for another "First use" Samsung Pay promo where you can sometimes get decent stuff. I got a $30 eBay gift card for my first SPay use back in April.
And Qualcomm S7 root is reversible so you can try it and, if you don't like it, restore the non-rooted state with Samsung Pay.
Other thoughts (on how I use root):
App settings: this allows you to set DPI (and other settings) per app. This way, I can run the phone at 400 dpi but have the camera and other apps run at their native DPI full screen
Amplify/Greenify can do wonders to your battery by controlling how often certain programs call home.
Anyone know if update that came out today kills root?
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Anyone know if update that came out today kills root?
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I'm pretty sure it does not as the idea behind this root method is that you are not rooting the kernel that this firmware update comes with, but the engineering one. Since you are only allowed to flash "official" firmwares, this update would not block it.
You're not exploiting the carrier's stuff, but an engineering kernel that is legal to flash tot he phone without rejection. If that makes sense.
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I'm pretty sure it does not as the idea behind this root method is that you are not rooting the kernel that this firmware update comes with, but the engineering one. Since you are only allowed to flash "official" firmwares, this update would not block it.
You're not exploiting the carrier's stuff, but an engineering kernel that is legal to flash tot he phone without rejection. If that makes sense.
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It does lol thank you
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i love having root but I actually use SamPay allot so unfortunately root doesn't give me anything i want more than SamPay. Hopefully something like rootcloak will allow SamPay to work soon??
Is Samsung Pay more useful than Android Pay, which I believe works with root? I don't really care about either app because my bank is always behind the times and still can't be used in Apple Pay or Android Pay (I just tried again and still not supported by my bank).
You guys pretty much hit all the reasons that I like root, especially all the Xposed modules to do things like keep YouTube playing with screen off and recording phone calls, and just having control over the operating system in general. I couldn't imagine if Windows was locked down like Android, yet 99% of people just accept being restricted on their mobile devices. I've always tinkered with computers though so having less than root or admin access to stuff is maddening. I'm glad that I'm a domain admin at work and not just another pleeb user, haha.
I wouldn't necessarily count on root helping your battery life a ton, though. I've done lots of crap to try and help, yet it still consumes 2 or 3% an hour in standby, just as it did when it was full of bloat with tons of wake locks. That's with AOD on and Bluetooth enabled and connected to my Gear S2 though, which are bigger battery hogs than the little tweaks that I've done with Greenify, Amplify, and Titanium app-freezing.
A couple other things I want root for are Tasker & FolderMount, though the latter has caused me to Odin my phone back to life twice in an attempt to make it work.
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Is Samsung Pay more useful than Android Pay, which I believe works with root? I don't really care about either app because my bank is always behind the times and still can't be used in Apple Pay or Android Pay (I just tried again and still not supported by my bank).
You guys pretty much hit all the reasons that I like root, especially all the Xposed modules to do things like keep YouTube playing with screen off and recording phone calls, and just having control over the operating system in general. I couldn't imagine if Windows was locked down like Android, yet 99% of people just accept being restricted on their mobile devices. I've always tinkered with computers though so having less than root or admin access to stuff is maddening. I'm glad that I'm a domain admin at work and not just another pleeb user, haha.
I wouldn't necessarily count on root helping your battery life a ton, though. I've done lots of crap to try and help, yet it still consumes 2 or 3% an hour in standby, just as it did when it was full of bloat with tons of wake locks. That's with AOD on and Bluetooth enabled and connected to my Gear S2 though, which are bigger battery hogs than the little tweaks that I've done with Greenify, Amplify, and Titanium app-freezing.
A couple other things I want root for are Tasker & FolderMount, though the latter has caused me to Odin my phone back to life twice in an attempt to make it work.
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Android Pay does not work with root iirc.
snake2332 said:
Is Samsung Pay more useful than Android Pay, which I believe works with root? I don't really care about either app because my bank is always behind the times and still can't be used in Apple Pay or Android Pay (I just tried again and still not supported by my bank).
You guys pretty much hit all the reasons that I like root, especially all the Xposed modules to do things like keep YouTube playing with screen off and recording phone calls, and just having control over the operating system in general. I couldn't imagine if Windows was locked down like Android, yet 99% of people just accept being restricted on their mobile devices. I've always tinkered with computers though so having less than root or admin access to stuff is maddening. I'm glad that I'm a domain admin at work and not just another pleeb user, haha.
I wouldn't necessarily count on root helping your battery life a ton, though. I've done lots of crap to try and help, yet it still consumes 2 or 3% an hour in standby, just as it did when it was full of bloat with tons of wake locks. That's with AOD on and Bluetooth enabled and connected to my Gear S2 though, which are bigger battery hogs than the little tweaks that I've done with Greenify, Amplify, and Titanium app-freezing.
A couple other things I want root for are Tasker & FolderMount, though the latter has caused me to Odin my phone back to life twice in an attempt to make it work.
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IMO, I feel like I have faster battery drainage with root than without, and I'm on the U firmware right now.
I would say that if you don't know if/why you want root, then you probably don't want it. Particularly in the case of the s7e for VZ. There really isn't anything in the way of custom ROMs or mods yet. I also don't think battery life and performance are any better with root, and in fact I believe it could be the opposite. One of the most common things I hear is people wanting to remove bloat, although the effect of that can mostly be accomplished through an app like package disabler.
Having said that I rooted simply because I wanted to. I like knowing that I can do whatever I'd like on my device. While I have yet to find any critical functionality that being rooted on the S7E gives me that I didn't have without it...I like playing around with things like tasker, and editing the build.prop file.
I've had Titanium backup for a long time, and I certainly like being able to use that again.
I'd like to see a native tethering mod, but since I have Foxfi that's simply a matter of convenience.
I used to be all about root until the Note 5. That phone was fast enough and good enough battery that I didn't need to break samsung pay forever to get root. Then I had a Nexus 6p, rooted immediately but no ROMS were as dependable as stock so I stayed stock and used Android Pay. Now I jump ship to VZW where we seem to get the lock down more often than not, and I really don't care.
Keep it stock, enjoy monthly security updates and Samsung Pay. Just use Samsung browser adaway for Internet ads, and Package Disabler Pro if you'd care to slim down any apps that aren't easily disabled without it. Root causes more headache than its worth for me.
Hello all,
My Lg G4 experienced a dreaded boot loop because of overheating and Sprint decided it was best to give me the Lg G5 instead. The "upgrade" bothers me because there is no root yet for this phone, making it the first time I'll be without root access.
Root is indispensable namely for full, proper backups (Titanium Backup) and WiFi hotspot/tethering. I do not use the latter every day but it is indispensable for me.
Other aspects include Xposed (some tweaks are impossible even with separate apps), moving photos and videos to SD card, and some programs such as SoundAbout.
Formerly rooted users - how has life been for you without root? What apps do you miss, and how did you get around them?
I don't even know where to start. I've been using Android since the HTC Evo, and pretty much had a new Android phone every year...ALL rooted.
I basically, mostly miss all the things you mentioned though, such as titanium backup, and wifi tethering. Also used rom toolbox and other apps to make small tweeks as far as performance upgrades and visual preferences.
But the thing i might possibly miss the most, is the ability to BLOCK ADS!! Omg i didn't realize how much i despised seeing ads in my apps until i couldn't use root. I love this phone itself, but without root, Im pretty sure I'm going to be getting the Google Pixel soon. Nexus phones are usually rooted fairly easily and the phone itself is great also.
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But the thing i might possibly miss the most, is the ability to BLOCK ADS!! Omg i didn't realize how much i despised seeing ads in my apps until i couldn't use root. I love this phone itself, but without root, Im pretty sure I'm going to be getting the Google Pixel soon. Nexus phones are usually rooted fairly easily and the phone itself is great also.
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You can do that without root. Check out Adgaurd and or Adclear.
I use Adgaurd paid myself.
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You can do that without root. Check out Adgaurd and or Adclear.
I use Adgaurd paid myself.
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Yeah I've used adguard but it messes up my connection. It will stop my downloads and in general makes everything slow as hell. With root I can just put a hosts file in my etc folder and actually seems to speed up my connection.
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i miss putting on a half baked CM rom that degrades photo quality, breaks core features of the phone and generally sucks just so i can say i rooted my phone.
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only thing I really miss is hot spot usage.
oh and the ability to fix this f*cking wakelock that won't go away and I can't trace without root.
This thread makes me sad inside because my buddy on T-Mobile just flashed cm and is making me jealous and angry that I bought this phone without doing research first. Lol.
I miss all the root and fun of trying new roms
Hotspot, hands down. Ad blocking (including YouTube ads) is 2nd.
AdBlock, unbloating, and the greatest thing I miss, viper4android.
How on Earth do I get rid of Sprint's visual voicemail? Before I just got rid of the program in Titanium Backup, either by uninstalling it or freezing it. Same with a bunch of other programs I can't get rid of
Even something as simple as getting rid of some notifications in the menu area - impossible without root.
I miss orbot,as for adblockers I use adguard,its the best I've used,paid or free. The thing I miss most is AOSP Roms
I would have to say it would be being able to delete unwanted apps, change my battery icon, take out ads on you tube and apps, being able to do full backups of my phone, and tethering my phone with wifi.
Everything... I hate this phone. I had all my tasker tasks, and all my games backed up on titanium backup. I want vanilla Android back. I want my foxfi back. I just want to be able to use my phone without stipulations. I will never buy another LG again. I'm going back to HTC.
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You can remove ads in youtube using no root data firewall and using an adblock dns for that firewall so it uses that dns. Dont know why android blocks ability to set dns on mobile argh
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jianjia.firewall&hl=en
https://alternate-dns.com/ 198.101.242.72 and 23.253.163.53 as your DNS server
WHAT I MISS MOST:
Stop these stupid programs from having ability to autorun in background. With root on my amazon tablet, I can remove those handlers. I wonder if this can be done through adb?
UPDATE: Just got a conversation with CS in my country. It seems that the article provided by sir gnmmarechal is 100% confirmed. Here are screenshots of our conv.
Spoiler
https://ibb.co/cEDxfk
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Hey guys, so the question is simple. Should I or should I not? At least not for a month or two.
I've had this habit of tripping knox after 1-2 months of use ever since the Galaxy S5. But now I've been missing all my purchased root apps and especially the v4a. However, what I'm worried about are those few issues poppin out after some time like what happened with the S7e. So I'm torn between rooting or not.
Any suggestions? Thanks guys.
Edit: So here are the few things you guys have shared (so far):
* Rooting doesn't void warranty: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty
Few Alternatives for staying unrooted:
* TitaniumBackup Alt: Helium
* Adaway alt: Adhell. Also, samsung's own browser now supports extensions and you can download an adblock for it.
* v4a alt: none atm
* xposed alt: none atm
* expanded reboot menu: none
* doubletap statusbar to lock: none
Thanks:
* @gnmmarechal
* @LudoGris
* everybody else
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Go for it! I don't remember the last time I didn't root a device within the first week of owning it
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I didn't have Samsung since S6 which was disaster, then I had two iphones: 6s and recently 7 respectively. Now I moved back to Samsung, as I bought S8. Personally, I find rooting useless at least for now. There aren't any major/valuable tweaks available around. Unless you really want that V4A (which is overrated in my opinion), then don't root it. I rooted my S6 after about 3 months. What I would really like to see is a stereo mod that would enable front speaker to play music.
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Go for it! I don't remember the last time I didn't root a device within the first week of owning it
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I'm just worried that samsung might not accept my warranty if an issue pops out.
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I didn't have Samsung since S6 which was disaster, then I had two iphones: 6s and recently 7 respectively. Now I moved back to Samsung, as I bought S8. Personally, I find rooting useless at least for now. There aren't any major/valuable tweaks available around. Unless you really want that V4A (which is overrated in my opinion), then don't root it. I rooted my S6 after about 3 months. What I would really like to see is a stereo mod that would enable front speaker to play music.
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What I actually miss really are Root Explorer, Adblock, V4A, Titanium Backup. After switching to this new phone, I can't handle those ads constantly annoying me everytime I press something on my screen when browsing. Haha
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I'm just worried that samsung might not accept my warranty if an issue pops out.
What I actually miss really are Root Explorer, Adblock, V4A, Titanium Backup. After switching to this new phone, I can't handle those ads constantly annoying me everytime I press something on my screen when browsing. Haha
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty
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This is a great article, I also got on different conversation before regarding this. Some are claiming that they are still able to claim their warranty after tripping knox (like the artile also said) just as long as the issue is not related to it but some says differently so I'm not confident enough with the claims. Let me try to ask the CS here in my country.
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I'm just worried that samsung might not accept my warranty if an issue pops out.
What I actually miss really are Root Explorer, Adblock, V4A, Titanium Backup. After switching to this new phone, I can't handle those ads constantly annoying me everytime I press something on my screen when browsing. Haha
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Root Explorer - The My Files App isn't that bad. Only thing you really miss is the ability to edit root folders, which what do you need that for?
Adblock - AdHell on Samsung Galaxy Store. Uses Knox to block all ads on your phone. No need for rooting for this anymore.
V4A - can't help you here
Titanium Backup - Samsung and Google do a pretty good job of backing up all my apps. Only thing I really lose is the data from the apps.
All in all I don't root anymore due to the best abilities of the phones coming with everything I have wanted. Sure, I could customize a slight bit more with a rooted phone, but the downsides of rooting - being a flashaholic, worrying about tripping hardware mines, bad ROMs, bootloop, etc. - are enough to make me stay away now. I get everything I want from the Samsung phone the way it is now.
I can't believe I just wrote that! I have been rooting for years now. What is wrong with me!!!!
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Root Explorer - The My Files App isn't that bad. Only thing you really miss is the ability to edit root folders, which what do you need that for?
Adblock - AdHell on Samsung Galaxy Store. Uses Knox to block all ads on your phone. No need for rooting for this anymore.
V4A - can't help you here
Titanium Backup - Samsung and Google do a pretty good job of backing up all my apps. Only thing I really lose is the data from the apps.
All in all I don't root anymore due to the best abilities of the phones coming with everything I have wanted. Sure, I could customize a slight bit more with a rooted phone, but the downsides of rooting - being a flashaholic, worrying about tripping hardware mines, bad ROMs, bootloop, etc. - are enough to make me stay away now. I get everything I want from the Samsung phone the way it is now.
I can't believe I just wrote that! I have been rooting for years now. What is wrong with me!!!!
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Haha, thanks for this. Unfortunately adhell doesn't support our S8/+ just yet. Maybe you guys are right, there is not enough reason to root, thanks for the suggestion guys.
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Haha, thanks for this. Unfortunately adhell doesn't support our S8/+ just yet. Maybe you guys are right, there is not enough reason to root, thanks for the suggestion guys.
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True. Did you take advantage of the Disconnect offer when it was free? It works great on the S8. Blocks all ads for me.
Nevermind, apparently the one we can download from galaxy apps is outdated, just updated adhell from playstore and now I can activate it. Haven't tested it yet tho.
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I have been rooting for years. Now the only reason I would do that is Beats Audio. Much, much better than V4A
LudoGris said:
Root Explorer - The My Files App isn't that bad. Only thing you really miss is the ability to edit root folders, which what do you need that for?
Adblock - AdHell on Samsung Galaxy Store. Uses Knox to block all ads on your phone. No need for rooting for this anymore.
V4A - can't help you here
Titanium Backup - Samsung and Google do a pretty good job of backing up all my apps. Only thing I really lose is the data from the apps.
All in all I don't root anymore due to the best abilities of the phones coming with everything I have wanted. Sure, I could customize a slight bit more with a rooted phone, but the downsides of rooting - being a flashaholic, worrying about tripping hardware mines, bad ROMs, bootloop, etc. - are enough to make me stay away now. I get everything I want from the Samsung phone the way it is now.
I can't believe I just wrote that! I have been rooting for years now. What is wrong with me!!!!
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This posts was what i've been looking for...I haven't pulled the trigger on the S8 because i'm still debating to get snapdragon or go international with exynos. My main concerns for root were adblock, titanium backup, and the lack of ability to do a nandroid backup. I've been searching for good alternatives
im under the same dilemma of whether to root or not, i have rooted all my previous phones from the s2,3,4,5,6 and the s7 edge. Now im actually considering not rooting this phone. The main things i used to root the phone for were
1) adblock - but as mentioned im going to try adhell when i get the phone
2) Titanium backup - Havent found a great alternative for this however a few people have recommend Helium
3) GameGuardian - Cant help but hack pvz2 and others when they keep asking you for money for gems/coins
4) Xposed - a)Currently using a mod for the AOD on the s7 edge which lets me set custom pictures on the phone which is amazing,
b) XtouchWiz to auto expand my audio group when pressing the volume button, havent found a replacement for this either.
But rooting would cost me the Iris scanner(need this thanks to the horrible position of the fingerprint sensor) and samsung pay(not that big a deal) and of course warranty.
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annson08 said:
Haha, thanks for this. Unfortunately adhell doesn't support our S8/+ just yet. Maybe you guys are right, there is not enough reason to root, thanks for the suggestion guys.
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I would say if you don't have to "don't root." My main reason for rooting is to get my mother language (font) on my galaxy which usually is only done by root + ifont.
I've come from a rooted Nexus 6P. I still use Power Toggles because it allows one touch location switching. I also use Lux and Llama for automation. Anyone know of good alternatives without root?
dahray02 said:
This posts was what i've been looking for...I haven't pulled the trigger on the S8 because i'm still debating to get snapdragon or go international with exynos. My main concerns for root were adblock, titanium backup, and the lack of ability to do a nandroid backup. I've been searching for good alternatives
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Glad I could be of help!
silentwitness1 said:
im under the same dilemma of whether to root or not, i have rooted all my previous phones from the s2,3,4,5,6 and the s7 edge. Now im actually considering not rooting this phone. The main things i used to root the phone for were
1) adblock - but as mentioned im going to try adhell when i get the phone
2) Titanium backup - Havent found a great alternative for this however a few people have recommend Helium
3) GameGuardian - Cant help but hack pvz2 and others when they keep asking you for money for gems/coins
4) Xposed - a)Currently using a mod for the AOD on the s7 edge which lets me set custom pictures on the phone which is amazing,
b) XtouchWiz to auto expand my audio group when pressing the volume button, havent found a replacement for this either.
But rooting would cost me the Iris scanner(need this thanks to the horrible position of the fingerprint sensor) and samsung pay(not that big a deal) and of course warranty.
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You can now set a picture of your choice on AOD - but if you mean behind the clock, that is not yet possible. Though still nice to be able to use your own photos.
Also, the volume rocker now at least lets you choose whether it controls the ringtone or media by default. I changed mine to media as I set the ringer to a specific volume and normally leave it that way, but media I change all the time.
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Glad I could be of help!
You can now set a picture of your choice on AOD - but if you mean behind the clock, that is not yet possible. Though still nice to be able to use your own photos.
Also, the volume rocker now at least lets you choose whether it controls the ringtone or media by default. I changed mine to media as I set the ringer to a specific volume and normally leave it that way, but media I change all the time.
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yes but nothing like what i have right now. Currently I have a folder with images and it changes the image automatically every 1 hour. Also all notifications that come in scroll on the bottom of the screen not just a stupid icon of whatsapp.
Please download adhell from Google Play.
Samsung store version is not updated yet
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annson08 said:
Haha, thanks for this. Unfortunately adhell doesn't support our S8/+ just yet. Maybe you guys are right, there is not enough reason to root, thanks for the suggestion guys.
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Adhell does support Nougat.
download it from Google Play
Samsung store version is not updated yet
raiym said:
Please download adhell from Google Play.
Samsung store version is not updated yet
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Adhell does support Nougat.
download it from Google Play
Samsung store version is not updated yet
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Yeah, just did and it worked. Thanks.
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I've rooted just about every phone I've owned (sans the AT&T Note 5 never again a carrier phone for me after that).
I bought the OnePlus unlocked direct (vs trade in) so I'd have the easy "option" down the road versus playing the SIM unlock and bootloader bin file rodeo.
With that said, I've set up the entire phone and shockingly...I'm happy.
I've got iYTBP without root. I've got legitimate adblocking on a per-app base without root. Most importantly, I've retained L1 Windvine provision for DRM content (e.g. Netflix and YouTube TV) which you lose once the bootloader is unlocked. I enjoyed flashing the 9.0.4 update as an incremdental OTA with no drama. Rooted you have to take the full, then reflash TWRP, then flash Magisk, etc. etc. etc.
All I'm missing is Titanium Backup. Substratum I've enjoyed but can live without. Occasional app updates and you have force closed apps until the theme is either updated or reapplied.
I dunno maybe I'm getting old, but I don't miss the constant tinkering. The 6T is blistering fast, bloat-free, and "works." First phone I'm honestly happy to not root.
Who else feels the same? :good:
I haven't rooted a phone since my Nexus 6. 6P went unrooted, Pixel XL, and Pixel XL2 went unrooted and no bootloader locked.
I don't feel the need to do so on my 6T BUT here are some things that might make me reconsider
Always on Display.
Audio enhancements for BT 5.0 similar to that of the moto x4 where you could connect multiple BT speakers and play to them simultaneously.
USB-C enhancements like video out (highly doubt the hardware is even there to support it)
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Nosferatu. said:
I've rooted just about every phone I've owned (sans the AT&T Note 5 never again a carrier phone for me after that).
I bought the OnePlus unlocked direct (vs trade in) so I'd have the easy "option" down the road versus playing the SIM unlock and bootloader bin file rodeo.
With that said, I've set up the entire phone and shockingly...I'm happy.
I've got iYTBP without root. I've got legitimate adblocking on a per-app base without root. Most importantly, I've retained L1 Windvine provision for DRM content (e.g. Netflix and YouTube TV) which you lose once the bootloader is unlocked. I enjoyed flashing the 9.0.4 update as an incremdental OTA with no drama. Rooted you have to take the full, then reflash TWRP, then flash Magisk, etc. etc. etc.
All I'm missing is Titanium Backup. Substratum I've enjoyed but can live without. Occasional app updates and you have force closed apps until the theme is either updated or reapplied.
I dunno maybe I'm getting old, but I don't miss the constant tinkering. The 6T is blistering fast, bloat-free, and "works." First phone I'm honestly happy to not root.
Who else feels the same? :good:
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Can I ask what Adblocker you use? I used AdHell3 on my Galaxy S9 and absolutely loved it, using Blockada now but it doesn't block ads nearly as much as Adhell did.
I've only owned nexus and pixel phones and rooted every single one. Never even had a second thought to root my 6t. I probably would have been happy without root but I'm happier with it.
I love having substratum, adaway and viper4android. I agree it is quite tedious to update but I can live with it for the added benefit of the 3 apps I listed. Haven't even updated to oos 9.0.5 yet.
Does anyone of these roots make it faster and more clean guis?
GeekMcLeod said:
I've only owned nexus and pixel phones and rooted every single one. Never even had a second thought to root my 6t. I probably would have been happy without root but I'm happier with it.
I love having substratum, adaway and viper4android. I agree it is quite tedious to update but I can live with it for the added benefit of the 3 apps I listed. Haven't even updated to oos 9.0.5 yet.
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coolguy said:
Does anyone of these roots make it faster and more clean guis?
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They don't make it any faster, but I don't feel the need for it to be any faster. Looks cleaner, to me, with substratum because everything is dark.
The theme dark mode is already all dark right?
GeekMcLeod said:
They don't make it any faster, but I don't feel the need for it to be any faster. Looks cleaner, to me, with substratum because everything is dark.
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TheKnux said:
Can I ask what Adblocker you use? I used AdHell3 on my Galaxy S9 and absolutely loved it, using Blockada now but it doesn't block ads nearly as much as Adhell did.
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I use Blockada. I also have NordVPN which can block adds for me as well but that's a paid service. I use it for when travelling. I like that the "key" icon for the VPN running is hidden thanks to the notch. Coming from a 5T where there was no notch I had to have root to remove that icon as it's non-removable from the stock settings control panel.
Only 2 reasons I still root.
Making backups with titanium backups on a schedule (don't want to lose my google authenticator and its billion codes), and adaway.
I rooted just so I could black out my theme. Since Google felt the need to lock down themeing in Pie.
Having root or no root is subjective and depends on what you do. Me personally I have more than 11 apps that needs root, TiB, V4A, AdBlocker kernel management are some that I use. The phone is fast and clean, with root it can be faster and cleaner.
coolguy said:
The theme dark mode is already all dark right?
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I didn't use it but I doubt it themes as much as substratum does.
Nosferatu. said:
I use Blockada. I also have NordVPN which can block adds for me as well but that's a paid service. I use it for when travelling. I like that the "key" icon for the VPN running is hidden thanks to the notch. Coming from a 5T where there was no notch I had to have root to remove that icon as it's non-removable from the stock settings control panel.
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I only see Blockada DNS changer in the play store. Is there another app named Blockada that does AdBlocking? The only reason I root at this point is for AdAway. I'd like to have a solid alternative.
Yea I don't see a huge importance anymore on rooting my phone. I used to root my phones to get rid of bloat and have that pure android experience. OP already gives you that.
Nosferatu. said:
I've rooted just about every phone I've owned (sans the AT&T Note 5 never again a carrier phone for me after that).
I bought the OnePlus unlocked direct (vs trade in) so I'd have the easy "option" down the road versus playing the SIM unlock and bootloader bin file rodeo.
With that said, I've set up the entire phone and shockingly...I'm happy.
I've got iYTBP without root. I've got legitimate adblocking on a per-app base without root. Most importantly, I've retained L1 Windvine provision for DRM content (e.g. Netflix and YouTube TV) which you lose once the bootloader is unlocked. I enjoyed flashing the 9.0.4 update as an incremdental OTA with no drama. Rooted you have to take the full, then reflash TWRP, then flash Magisk, etc. etc. etc.
All I'm missing is Titanium Backup. Substratum I've enjoyed but can live without. Occasional app updates and you have force closed apps until the theme is either updated or reapplied.
I dunno maybe I'm getting old, but I don't miss the constant tinkering. The 6T is blistering fast, bloat-free, and "works." First phone I'm honestly happy to not root.
Who else feels the same? :good:
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I root so I can backup and restore data via Titanium.
Also I want to use a system wide ad blocker.
tk8lm6 said:
I only see Blockada DNS changer in the play store. Is there another app named Blockada that does AdBlocking? The only reason I root at this point is for AdAway. I'd like to have a solid alternative.
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Have to get it through their website :good:
https://blokada.org/index.html
tk8lm6 said:
I only see Blockada DNS changer in the play store. Is there another app named Blockada that does AdBlocking? The only reason I root at this point is for AdAway. I'd like to have a solid alternative.
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https://energized.pro/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...energized-protection-ad-porn-malware-t3803773
The energized site is down for the next day or so but look up Energized on XDA. You can get Blokada on F-Droid. You're not going to find it in the Play Store. I found Blokada worked better than the DNSFilter app in said thread. System-wide ad blocking with either that or my paid VPN = no need to root for me.
The neat thing about Blokada vs the version of Adaway I used when on root is that I can whitelist particular apps that require a stock host file. Titanium Backup is nice and missed but I rarely used it. Plus if there's issues I prefer a clean install rather than injecting data. I prefer TWRP's backups over Titanium but that's a different topic of discussion.
To install Stereo Speaker mod..
Thanks. I guess I didn't realize that if you want to use this or Adguard DNS based as blocking, you can't easily use your third party VPN app (in my case ProtonVPN)
I guess I need to do some more homework.
I recieved my OP6t today and the first thing i did was unlock the BL and root it. After that i thought why. And the only thing worth rooting and losing L1 Widevine is AdAway.
5 min later, i flashed stock recovery and locked the bootloader so i can watch Netflix in HD ?
I only used Magisk and TWRP on my 5t for
- Stereo Speaker Mod (6t Speaker are awesome without Mod)
- AdAway (Just use a VPN service if you want or just use an ad block browser if the websites you use bombs you with ads, in app ads are more or less ok for me)
- Nandroid Backups (What should happen if you have everything stock ?)
- Youtube Vanced (just use the non-root Version with the right MicroG Apk)
- Viper4Android (i didn't used it anyway)
So, now full stock, always up to date without reflashing Magisk and so on. ?