Is it possible to replace the front glass without replacing the digitizer and LCD? I have saw many, many glass only replacements on eBay for it. I want to do it myself. Is it possible? I know it is possible for the galacy necus but as the 4's LCD is on top i was wondering on bidding for a cracked screen one on ebay and fixing the glass only.
As far as I know, the digitizer and glass are glued together pretty tightly, and it's extraordinarily tough to separate the two without damaging either; plus, if separate them you have the constant worry of dust getting in there. It's usually worth it to just buy a glass+digitizer that are glued together.
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As far as I know, the digitizer and glass are glued together pretty tightly, and it's extraordinarily tough to separate the two without damaging either; plus, if separate them you have the constant worry of dust getting in there. It's usually worth it to just buy a glass+digitizer that are glued together.
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I have seen videos of people seperating them on the galaxy nexus. Also, if the glass is cracked is the digitizer gone too? because the touch doesnt work and its cracked.
I have done a teardown of the Front display before. It is not easy. Yes the Digitizer and LCD are Glued together and I HIGHLY recommend NOT attempting to seperate them without the proper setup to do so. Once they are seperated it takes a SPECIAL glue to glue the Digitizer to the LCD and it has to be aligned correctly or you have to go through the process again. ALSO the LCD+Digitizer display is GLUED to the Bezel with an RTV type substance. I HIGHLY reccommend spending the extra few dollars to get the 3 piece setup. With that the repair is VERY Quick and easy. Takes about 15 min or so. (Half of which is getting the Back cover off without breaking anything).
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I have done a teardown of the Front display before. It is not easy. Yes the Digitizer and LCD are Glued together and I HIGHLY recommend NOT attempting to seperate them without the proper setup to do so. Once they are seperated it takes a SPECIAL glue to glue the Digitizer to the LCD and it has to be aligned correctly or you have to go through the process again. ALSO the LCD+Digitizer display is GLUED to the Bezel with an RTV type substance. I HIGHLY reccommend spending the extra few dollars to get the 3 piece setup. With that the repair is VERY Quick and easy. Takes about 15 min or so. (Half of which is getting the Back cover off without breaking anything).
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But one question. Is the digitizer broken if the glass is broken and it doenst recognie touches?
EDIT: I will buy a broken nexus 4 off ebay for a few bucks and replace the glass so I want to know if it works if you get it. And there is a 80$ difference between the glass and the 3 piece assembly
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I have seen videos of people seperating them on the galaxy nexus. Also, if the glass is cracked is the digitizer gone too? because the touch doesnt work and its cracked.
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The Top Glass is the Digitizer, the LCD is just that. I think the iPhone4s/5 has the Digitizer integrated into the LCD and I think this is a process that may start to become commonplace as LG announced that they have a LCD Display with Integrated Digitizer in production now.
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But one question. Is the digitizer broken if the glass is broken and it doenst recognie touches?
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Yup You can see the digitited touch grid if you look at in the right angle in bright light.
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The Top Glass is the Digitizer, the LCD is just that. I think the iPhone4s/5 has the Digitizer integrated into the LCD and I think this is a process that may start to become commonplace as LG announced that they have a LCD Display with Integrated Digitizer in production now.
Yup You can see the digitited touch grid if you look at in the right angle in bright light.
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So youre saying I am out of luck with these:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...=nexus+4+glass+replacement&_sacat=0&_from=R40
So why do they sell them anyway? zFor non broken glass?
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So youre saying I am out of luck with these:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...=nexus+4+glass+replacement&_sacat=0&_from=R40
So why do they sell them anyway? zFor non broken glass?
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The Glass IS cheap but they do that so they can trick you into wasting your money. It is not an easy process to do. I have done a replacement on both the fron and back and it was very time intensive. (The front I just ordered the 3 piece and it was quick.) For anyone who has had little to no experience doing display repairs I reccommend the 3 Piece set. If you have SOME experience and have GOOD tools get the 2 Piece. ONLY get the Glass Digitizer IF you have Some professional tools and experience. Also the Special Glue for gluing the Digitizer to the LCD is about $20 by itself so that $15 Digitizer works out to ~$35-40 not to mention if you scratch or break the LCD by accident then you end up having to buy that too. I am not trying to be preachy here but trying to give you the REAL risks and obsticles associated with the repair on the N4. It is a VERY easy phone to repair in general EXCEPT the display. Just get the 3 Piece display and sell the broken one on ebay. It will sell because Professionals (who have the right tools) will grab them and refurbish them and then use them for repairs.
Take a look at this Vid, It's for the iPhone 5 but the process is the same for the N4 and N7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbZwypAINYE
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The Glass IS cheap but they do that so they can trick you into wasting your money. It is not an easy process to do. I have done a replacement on both the fron and back and it was very time intensive. (The front I just ordered the 3 piece and it was quick.) For anyone who has had little to no experience doing display repairs I reccommend the 3 Piece set. If you have SOME experience and have GOOD tools get the 2 Piece. ONLY get the Glass Digitizer IF you have Some professional tools and experience. Also the Special Glue for gluing the Digitizer to the LCD is about $20 by itself so that $15 Digitizer works out to ~$35-40 not to mention if you scratch or break the LCD by accident then you end up having to buy that too. I am not trying to be preachy here but trying to give you the REAL risks and obsticles associated with the repair on the N4. It is a VERY easy phone to repair in general EXCEPT the display. Just get the 3 Piece display and sell the broken one on ebay. It will sell because Professionals (who have the right tools) will grab them and refurbish them and then use them for repairs.
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Hey,
I have nexus 4. The outer glass is cracked, but lcd works perfectly. However the touch is unresponsive. If i buy just the outer glass from ebay and replaced using UV glue. Would the touch function will work? Its strange that all the other smart phones touch function work, if you break the outer glass; but on nexus 4 it stops working. looking forward to hearing your opinion. thank you.
saj
saj420 said:
Hey,
I have nexus 4. The outer glass is cracked, but lcd works perfectly. However the touch is unresponsive. If i buy just the outer glass from ebay and replaced using UV glue. Would the touch function will work? Its strange that all the other smart phones touch function work, if you break the outer glass; but on nexus 4 it stops working. looking forward to hearing your opinion. thank you.
saj
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That's what I was asking in the first place. Let me know if you figure it out.
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That's what I was asking in the first place. Let me know if you figure it out.
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I think the digitizer is so attached to the glass when the glass breaks it breaks the digitizer as well, hence why every n4 LCD that cracks has no touch response, the digitizer is glued to the glass and not the LCD as it is on the galaxy nexus making it a billion times easeyer to just buy a whole LCD unit
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I think the digitizer is so attached to the glass when the glass breaks it breaks the digitizer as well, hence why every n4 LCD that cracks has no touch response, the digitizer is glued to the glass and not the LCD as it is on the galaxy nexus making it a billion times easeyer to just buy a whole LCD unit
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It probably is easier to replace the whole unit, however it's too expensive for some people; cheapest unit I've found runs for around 120 USD, 10 times more expensive than just the glass. Specially now that Google lowered the prices, and a 120-130 USD screen doesn't make much sense when you can have a new phone for just 199 USD.
In my case, I cracked the lower corner of the screen and the lowermost buttons don't work (ie: home, back and switch app buttons). Otherwise, the screen works perfectly.
From what I've read so far online, it's fairly hard, although not impossible, to replace just the glass on a screen such as our Nexus 4's. The main difficulty is that the LCD, digitizer (the thing that takes your finger's input, in case you're wondering –as I did– what that is) and the glass are fused together. From what I gather (I am, by no means, an expert on this... take whatever I say with a grain of salt) this means that this partes are glued together with very strong adhesive.
I haven't found any videos or guides for our Nexus, but the process should be very similar to this one for a Galaxy S3. For the time being, I resorted to just rotating my phone when I need the back and home buttons. However, when it's time to buy a new phone I'll try to replace the glass on this one.
If anyone of you guys want to try this, I hope you take a video of the process and share it with the rest of us, unlucky/clumsy Nexus 4 owners.
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It probably is easier to replace the whole unit, however it's too expensive for some people; cheapest unit I've found runs for around 120 USD, 10 times more expensive than just the glass. Specially now that Google lowered the prices, and a 120-130 USD screen doesn't make much sense when you can have a new phone for just 199 USD.
In my case, I cracked the lower corner of the screen and the lowermost buttons don't work (ie: home, back and switch app buttons). Otherwise, the screen works perfectly.
From what I've read so far online, it's fairly hard, although not impossible, to replace just the glass on a screen such as our Nexus 4's. The main difficulty is that the LCD, digitizer (the thing that takes your finger's input, in case you're wondering –as I did– what that is) and the glass are fused together. From what I gather (I am, by no means, an expert on this... take whatever I say with a grain of salt) this means that this partes are glued together with very strong adhesive.
I haven't found any videos or guides for our Nexus, but the process should be very similar to this one for a Galaxy S3. For the time being, I resorted to just rotating my phone when I need the back and home buttons. However, when it's time to buy a new phone I'll try to replace the glass on this one.
If anyone of you guys want to try this, I hope you take a video of the process and share it with the rest of us, unlucky/clumsy Nexus 4 owners.
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I also found a series of videos for galaxy nexus to replace only glass
I've found this tutorial for repairing n4 cracked screen, but I don't know if what he's replacing is only the outer glass or the whole digitizer and glass together.
vickev.com/#!/article/repair-your-cracked-lg-nexus-4-e960-screen
and by the way, did someone find the glass with the digitizer for a good price? Not considering those tricky ebay announcements of outer glass, as Ohgami_Ichiro has already alerted.
found this one, but 85,85 € is kinda expensive.
spareslg.com/lcd-e-touch-lg-nexus-4-lg-e960-acq86270901.html
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I've found this tutorial for repairing n4 cracked screen, but I don't know if what he's replacing is only the outer glass or the whole digitizer and glass together.
vickev.com/#!/article/repair-your-cracked-lg-nexus-4-e960-screen
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It is LCD+digitizer+glass assembly replacement. Not easiest but one of easy ways, costs about $120.
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and by the way, did someone find the glass with the digitizer for a good price? Not considering those tricky ebay announcements of outer glass, as Ohgami_Ichiro has already alerted.
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For example ebay.com/itm/Original-OEM-NEW-Front-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Glass-Lens-LG-Google-Nexus-4-E960-/181230445260?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2a322d22cc
$38
Erich M said:
found this one, but 85,85 € is kinda expensive.
spareslg.com/lcd-e-touch-lg-nexus-4-lg-e960-acq86270901.html
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It is glass+digitizer+lcd+housing assembly.
There are also glass+digitizer+lcd+housing+battery assemblies.
If you replace the digitizer only the screen will not respond the same. My galaxy s3 has touch issues now cause I only replaced the digitizer. Now need to buy a whole assembly
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Well, I was pretty keen on getting a chinese glass/digitizer. The one I had in mind was on ebay.
I was a bit concerned about waiting up to 2 or 3 weeks, but I thought at £28 it would be worth it, as long as I could fit it successfully when it arrived. The alternative was £100 approx from spareslg.com. I was a little concerned about the integrity of the LCD as I was getting some "flowing" around the cracks on the glass. I thought (as was posted earlier) tha it would be no harm in trying to remove the broken glass now, and prep the what was left of the screen for the new glass. If it went well I would know that the LCD was ok. If it went badly however I would loose the opportunity to sell the second hand screen for £20 or so (also posted earlier). I decided to go ahead and strip down the phone.
Getting to the nitty gritty, I warmed up the screen with a hairdryer, inserted a pry tool between the bezel and the glass and started to loosen. I had replaced a glass on a Samsung Galaxy Ace successfully before and this procedure felt very familiar. The procedure actually felt much easier. The glass lifted away from the lcd within three or four minutes, and I continued to heat and ease the glass for only 6 or 7 more minutes. As I was raising the glass while working towards the top of the phone, I noticed that the LCD was leaving the frame as it didn't appear to be held by much, if anything. I thought I would remove what was left of the screen assembly from the frame and continue separating the two parts outside the frame. It was at this point that I noticed that the the LDC panel appeared to be dividing into two parts; like two wafers. Wishful thinking made me hope that what I was seeing was a digitizer membrane or something; but I soon resigned myself to the possibility that the LCD was history.:crying:
I didn't bother to clean off the glue residue, I reassembled the phone and switched it on. The picture below shows that the LCD was ruined. What looks like glass is in fact the movement of the pry tool on the adhesive on the LCD. No flash was used either.
The second photo shows the split LCD. The final photo shows the digitizer grid in the old glass.
If I had the same problem again, I would probably try again. I'd be particularly careful around the edges, not allow the LCD to rise out of the frame (and possibly tear) and take it much more slowly, and possibly use a wire separation tool if around.
Ohgami_Ichiro posted earlier that the costs of digitizer only repairs can go high. If you add fancy glues and tape then it would have cost me at least £50. New at £100 minus sale of old, £15 ?(so net £85) That could be £35 difference, £45 if you skipped the UV glue.
It might not be the last time this phone breaks though!! so savings may increase!
I have no choce now, £100.
Bye the way can anybody recommend a good open case, mine had barely 1.5 ml above screen edge.
Hope you've enjoyed the how NOT to.
Hi dear friends,
Sorry for late answer but i recommend you to take lcd digitizer and replace with cracked one. Becouse generally such chinese complete assemblies (lcd+digitizer and housing) are problematic as lcd quality bit lower than original one. So what to do is; to take digitizer around 20$ (there also which 10$ cost but really lower sensitive digitizer ) and replace it yourself. What else you need for this replacement?
-First you need something thin and sharp like as your grandfathers shaving blade for pry lcd and digitizer. (cost 1$ maybe)
-Then you also need glue cleaner for clean old glue particles, (costs 5$ with uv glue totally)
-uv adhesive for glue lcd with digitizer and (costs 5$ with adhesive cleaner totally)
-3m sticker for attach new digitizer to housing. (2-3$ for piece)
and totally cost max 30$. Maybe you will work more harder but at least you will get phone which which works with original screen with better view. :good:
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Just i need to warn you to definitely use heating gun or hair dryer(at max. temp.) while seperate cracked digitizer from lcd. Otherwise you will crack your lcd too. With my best wishes!!!
Hello guys
Two days ago I dropped my G2. I assumed that since it was Gorilla Glass it would be fine, and since it fell from just 3 ft high it would be fine. I was wrong. The digitizer cracked from the bottom to the top around the speaker. The LCD looks fine, but the Digitizer doesn't respond to touches
Does anyone know if I can replace only the Digitizer? I've read somewhere that the digitizer and the Screen are united by OCA glue, but I've also seen brand new G2 digitizers for sale on Ebay without the LCD. I was wondering if its possible to heat the broken Digitizer enough so that the LCD can be removed and the replacement Digitizer can be placed on top but with 3m tape.
The phone is brand new and I can't send it to LG for repairs since I'm at PR, so I would rely on the answers you guys give and the guy from the phone repair store to do the whole procedure for me
Thanks in advance!
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Hello guys
Two days ago I dropped my G2. I assumed that since it was Gorilla Glass it would be fine, and since it fell from just 3 ft high it would be fine. I was wrong. The digitizer cracked from the bottom to the top around the speaker. The LCD looks fine, but the Digitizer doesn't respond to touches
Does anyone know if I can replace only the Digitizer? I've read somewhere that the digitizer and the Screen are united by OCA glue, but I've also seen brand new G2 digitizers for sale on Ebay without the LCD. I was wondering if its possible to heat the broken Digitizer enough so that the LCD can be removed and the replacement Digitizer can be placed on top but with 3m tape.
The phone is brand new and I can't send it to LG for repairs since I'm at PR, so I would rely on the answers you guys give and the guy from the phone repair store to do the whole procedure for me
Thanks in advance!
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It may be possible but will require professional tools. Better and easier way is replace lcd with frame. You can also replace lcd/digitizer module to your frame. LG phones are easy to disassembly.
How can I tell that the screen the third party repair center is using is Gorilla 4?
Where can I buy online genuine screen? And is it true as I read online that since all device parts need to be removed to reach the screen it will be impossible not to have after repair marks or dents?
Thanks in advance.
Hello,
virtually impossible to take phone apart without the right tools and damaging the black glass camera lens.
I purchased a screen and rear battery cover (which came with the black glass lens cover and the strip at the bottom on the back. The screen was around €50 and the back cover around €20. Also, you should purchase a screen separator like this: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/LCD-Screen-R...t-Tool-Manual-Sucker-Separator-/141888803105? as it is very difficult to get the screen out.
If you are careful, it is not such a a difficult job, and I would say to ask the seller about whether or not is is Gorilla 4. Personally, I user good glass screen prtoectors, and seeing how breakable the gorilla 4 is, I'm not too worried about ensuring it is 100% original Gorilla 4 - I am am happy with the result: I bought a broken 2 month old Nexus 6p 128GB silver and have fixed it all for about €300.
I got mine properly repaired through Huawei who directed me to an approved repair centre. Paid £130 but it's all official Huawei parts, and I think the repair comes with a warranty.
Edit: I should probably mention that even this official repair scuffed the aluminium and slightly bent the bezel where the guy tried to take the old screen out
Thanks
Hi there,
my S8 is slightly bent due to a crash with my bike. The screen is shattered, the digitizer and the glass are broken, too.
Now's my question: does the S8 have a separate frame in which the screen/glass-set is placed or is this frame (seen as the aluminum sides on the outside) part of the screen/glass-set which will be replaced by the repair shop?
I'm asking so I'll know if the bend-problem will be fixed with the screen/glass-replacement or if they'll try to charge more for it.
thank you!
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Hi there,
my S8 is slightly bent due to a crash with my bike. The screen is shattered, the digitizer and the glass are broken, too.
Now's my question: does the S8 have a separate frame in which the screen/glass-set is placed or is this frame (seen as the aluminum sides on the outside) part of the screen/glass-set which will be replaced by the repair shop?
I'm asking so I'll know if the bend-problem will be fixed with the screen/glass-replacement or if they'll try to charge more for it.
thank you!
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aluminum frame isn't part of screen dont worry
You can change just the screen, or some screens will come with the frame, but the latter requires you to transfer all of the components. Have a look on ifixit, search Galaxy S8 screen replacement on google and read the ifixit guide:
Use this guide to replace a cracked or broken display on your Samsung Galaxy S8.
Note: This guide instructs you to replace only the display while leaving the original frame, logic board, and battery in place. However, some replacement screens for this phone come pre-installed in a new frame (a.k.a. chassis), which requires a very different procedure—transplanting your phone's internals and installing a new battery. Make sure you have the correct part before starting this guide.
This guide involves removing the rear glass cover, you will need replacement adhesive to reattach the back cover to the phone. If your replacement screen does not come with adhesive, you will need to use tape to secure it as well.
If the frame is damaged or bent, it's important to replace it, or else the new screen may not mount correctly and can suffer damage from uneven pressure.
The process of separating the display from the frame usually destroys the display, so don't follow this guide unless you intend to replace the display.
Has anyone changed their front glass? I cracked mine, the screen itself is fine but the glass is cracked. Can I change just the glass? I see they sell it
It is possible, but I woudn't recommend doing it. It's a complex procedure that requires specific hardware (a heat gun, 3M tape, etc.) and skill.
Buy a factory-assembled screen + digitizer, it'll save you the hassle.
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It is possible, but I woudn't recommend doing it. It's a complex procedure that requires specific hardware (a heat gun, 3M tape, etc.) and skill.
Buy a factory-assembled screen + digitizer, it'll save you the hassle.
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I can pay a shop $70 to swap the front glass, that way if it breaks they have to fix it, and they have the equipment. Making the repair cost $100. But the whole LCD and digitizer and front is 139.99. I think it looks about $50 cheaper to change just the glass, even with paying the store. I've removed glued on backs. Just not screens, I don't want to break a perfectly good screen to fix cracked outter glass lol
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I can pay a shop $70 to swap the front glass, that way if it breaks they have to fix it, and they have the equipment. Making the repair cost $100. But the whole LCD and digitizer and front is 139.99. I think it looks about $50 cheaper to change just the glass, even with paying the store. I've removed glued on backs. Just not screens, I don't want to break a perfectly good screen to fix cracked outter glass lol
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The touchscreen consists in two parts, the digitizer and the screen (AMOLED, in our case). The digitizer is glued to the screen using industrial-grade techniques, resulting in ultra-thin laminated layers of very specific glue stacked between the actual pixels and the glass. These layers maximise reflectance, tune the colours, provide hardness and water-resistance to the screen (amongst other features).
For these reasons, while it is possible to glue the digitizer to the screen at home or in a shop, I would strongly advise against it. On a side note, even the factory-assembled aftermarket touchscreens are of lesser quality than what OnePlus produces.