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Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
I agree, its not the most convenient.
Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit
You'll get used to it in no time!
Trackball method does not work for me.
doesnt work for me either, the tracker ball would be nice...
did you change an option for that?
The track ball doest do it for me either. I don't mind using the button on top of the phone. I've always used HTC phones and a lot of them use the button on top to wake it up. You should get used to it pretty quick.
Damn, I was hoping the trackball would work... I disliked this about the Droid as well. It takes two hands to unlock the phone, doesn't it? The G1 and MT3G methods were better.
shouldn't we be able to remap the button pressed to work with the trackball? (with root access that is)
i agree...im not liking the top button to wake up the phone...trackball does not wake it for me either...
CLOCK APP
I just realized if you open the clock application, and let the phone go to sleep, then you can "Turn it on" with the trackball or volume rocker.
Now if there was a way to have the phone set to "Sleep = Clock" we'd be golden; the clock screen doen't look that bad, either.
I will say, the button placement on the top is much better than the Motorola droid. I was worried myself, but I got used to it super fast, and it isn't an issue at all.
(Former G1 owner, used to just pressing menu twice)
Just download "Keyguard Disabler" from the Android Market. It will allow you to use the trackball to turn the screen back on.
The screen is capacitive touch, and so is the "hardware" buttons.
If you want to be able to power up the phone from sleep with these buttons, that would require the capacitive touchscreen to be active while the phone is sleeping.
Wouldn't that affect the battery life?
iifuzz said:
Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
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Agreed. look here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613864&page=2
David1171 has a partial solution. Problem is I'm guessing, that there is no way to setup a double tap. Maybe someone knows.
I'm hoping that a future release of spare parts will have a setting for both a double or triple tap of the track bar to wake up, with or without the slide lock. ( I think that the slide lock would be less annoying if the track ball woke it up first instead of the poorly located power button) Also I am hoping that it will have settings to adjust the trackball notification flash speed and color for different google apps.
Just to let you know:
There is a thread about the trackball for wakeup thing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5337345
I got used to it pretty fast, its funny my other phone is a G1 and i find myself trying to unlock it by pushing up top all the time now haha, just become instinct.
I've heard a lot of people say they have trouble unlocking the Nexus One with one hand, but personally I have no trouble unlocking the device with one hand... with either hand.
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Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
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This person does not own a Nexus One.
Lockbot from market. Don't need pro, the free version will do.
Dunno why they copied the iPhone with the slide to unlock, with the magic its so easy you press the power button which is near the trackball then press menu.
It would be great if you could just press trackball then menu button to unlock.
is there any way to just press on the screen to wake it up other then pressing the power button or trackball? if anyone has used an iphone i am looking for simply touch the screen to wake it up and sliding to unlock skipping trackball or power button presses. thanks.
It's possible to wake up the iPhone by touching the screen? Only for jailbroken phones? That's something I've never heard of before.
I don't think that is possible right now, Android would power down the touch sensor to save battery. Just like a stock iPhone does too.
I am interested to know how to do that on the iPhone though, I'd love to do that with my iPod Touch.
ohh thats right i forgot the iphone has to press the home button to wake it up after a long sleep. my iphone is setup to wait the longest time before going into a sleep so if i am waiting for something the backlight turns off and locks the phone but a press on the screen turns on the backlight waits to be unlocked. oh well would be cool to have on n1 though. thanks for the reply.
The program "nolock" in the market makes it so you can use either the trackball or volume buttons to wake the phone. Other than that, I think screen wake would kill your battery. Can't say for sure though.
worth trying this app thanks
Yeah, being an OLED screen, you can't just turn off the backlight. Each pixel is a light all by itself. Otherwise you could probably do the same trick.
No lock or keyguard disabler bypass or disable the lock screen. Root and running a custom rom like CM will let you double click the trackball to unlock the and wake the phone. There is also a menu unlock too.
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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Menu wake doesn't do what I believe you may think it does, you still have to press the power button to turn the phone on. Then you press menu to skip the lockscreen.. which in my opinion is not needed. I only said this because you said no hard key will be worn out.. but they still will.
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I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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what are you using for that?
Funny that because I just went to go hunt that one down and found that you are indeed correct, it only acts as an alternative to slide to unlock, it does not wake up the phone. Sigh.
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what are you using for that?
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
sounds like i must dl it and worth pressing 1 button to wake up without sliding to unlock.
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
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i see one called mylock that says it automatically starts again after device restart. worth a try.
If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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yes i must say it works well. i didnt even try the no luck. it also has more reviews fyi. im keeping it. it also has an addon for something idle. im guessing that idle addon disabled the mylock to enter your security after an x amount of sleep time has passed. sounds ok if u want security enabled i guess but most pay a few cents for it. not for me at this point.
Hi guys,
Got my Desire HD last Friday and I'm really pleased with it, stunning device. The problem is, I'm using a case which protects the phone nicely and looks decent too but the power button is very tough to press in (let alone without a case TBH). I have Cyangens "Menu Unlock" enabled but I'm wondering if there is a tweak or APK to enable the capacitive buttons when the screen is off so I can turn it on easily (using Button Remapper). Maybe even a shake to enable app to wake the phone. Oh, cover below:
When I had the Galaxy S, I could just wake the screen with the main physical Home button.
When I had the Milestone, there was an APK to allow me to wake the screen with the buttons.
Any help or direction would really be appreciated. Would love to be able to unlock it that easily.
Cheers #auggie2k
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Hi guys,
Got my Desire HD last Friday and I'm really pleased with it, stunning device. The problem is, I'm using a case which protects the phone nicely and looks decent too but the power button is very tough to press in (let alone without a case TBH). I have Cyangens "Menu Unlock" enabled but I'm wondering if there is a tweak or APK to enable the capacitive buttons when the screen is off so I can turn it on easily (using Button Remapper). Maybe even a shake to enable app to wake the phone. Oh, cover below:
When I had the Galaxy S, I could just wake the screen with the main physical Home button.
When I had the Milestone, there was an APK to allow me to wake the screen with the buttons.
Any help or direction would really be appreciated. Would love to be able to unlock it that easily.
Cheers #auggie2k
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Buttons will be disabled when phone is asleep. The closest is to try "Tap Tap App" from the Market. Its free. Try and see how it could give you possibilities. Basically, it will allow you to set lock/wake permissions using the proximity sensor.
I use it as an alternative to pressing the power button all the time during shorter phone sleep/wake intervals
Much appreciated Jacob, cheers for the quick reply.
You can try WidgetLocker too, allow you to power up the phone using volume button.
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Maybe even a shake to enable app to wake the phone.
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now THAT is a cool idea
but, it would drain the battery...
panyan said:
now THAT is a cool idea
but, it would drain the battery...
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Its possible without much battery drain I remember using Pocketshield with the HD2 where it unlocks when you flip the phone facedown and up or shake from side to side. Seems they're still hung up on Windows till now... I hope they come around to turn to Android soon
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Much appreciated Jacob, cheers for the quick reply.
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You're welcome mate! Test the proximity settings, I used to use "Easy Detection" but found it too sensitive, it unlocks with short finger waves which was cool but also gets screwed up with strong winds when outdoors... lol
Since, I've changed the setting to "safe mode (default)" and it responds well to 2 mild taps. Hope it works for you too!
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You can try WidgetLocker too, allow you to power up the phone using volume button.
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only works if u're on stock kernel
try no lock, unlocks it with the volume buttons.
rossysaurus said:
try no lock, unlocks it with the volume buttons.
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isnt this the same as widget locker, i.e. it works only on stock kernel
Just installed "Tap Tap App", works perfect for me as an alternative unlock/lock. Thanks a lot!
Jacob1369 said:
Buttons will be disabled when phone is asleep. The closest is to try "Tap Tap App" from the Market. Its free. Try and see how it could give you possibilities. Basically, it will allow you to set lock/wake permissions using the proximity sensor.
I use it as an alternative to pressing the power button all the time during shorter phone sleep/wake intervals
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You're welcome mate! Test the proximity settings, I used to use "Easy Detection" but found it too sensitive, it unlocks with short finger waves which was cool but also gets screwed up with strong winds when outdoors... lol
Since, I've changed the setting to "safe mode (default)" and it responds well to 2 mild taps. Hope it works for you too!
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Those settings work perfectly for me too, it makes the phone seem so much more "fancy" and has already spooked my poor iPhone owning friend, lots of WTF's Cheers for the suggestion.
auggie2k said:
Those settings work perfectly for me too, it makes the phone seem so much more "fancy" and has already spooked my poor iPhone owning friend, lots of WTF's Cheers for the suggestion.
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lol... I was doing the exact same thing to my buddies with an iP4
Is there a way to wake up and unlock the phone with a fingerprint scan? Aka without waking up the phone prior to scan to unlock...let's say all in one ?
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Do not get the question, I press the home button and it unlocks it pretty much instantly with my fingerprint!
Do you mean without actually pressing the Home Button, well that would mean that the finger print sensor would have to be constantly scanning, think your battery would die pretty quickly
Yes i believe. "Without pressing the home button" is a feature in many phones like Xiaomi. It's a good feature but I think that with this button design it will be a problem. Fingerprint will always looking for a match even when it's being held in your hand.
Yes, without pressing the button should be an option. The button is already capacitive. So, this can be achieved just like the edge screens are sensitive too.
But then the phone is always looking for input, whether scanning for a finger print or looking for capacitive touch on the button. May be ok if the phone is in hand but for me that sort of defeats the purpose as this would be a better feature to unlock if the phone was on the desk.
I am by no means knocking the feature request or OP but personally cannot see much benefit from simply just pressing the button even if it only saves a few % of battery for me...
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Do not get the question, I press the home button and it unlocks it pretty much instantly with my fingerprint!
Do you mean without actually pressing the Home Button, well that would mean that the finger print sensor would have to be constantly scanning, think your battery would die pretty quickly
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I think the way that other phones work is that they scan for input only when the sensor is touched. So the iphone for example has a capacitive sensor on the finger print reader and knows when to start matching for fingerprints. This means that the phone isn't constantly scanning and doesn't use any more battery than the existing solution.
IMO Samsung probably should have implemented this feature.
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I think the way that other phones work is that they scan for input only when the sensor is touched. So the iphone for example has a capacitive sensor on the finger print reader and knows when to start matching for fingerprints. This means that the phone isn't constantly scanning and doesn't use any more battery than the existing solution.
IMO Samsung probably should have implemented this feature.
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Well on my iPhone 6s and all the previous ones I have had, I still have to press the home button for it to scan the finger if the screen is off, I cannot simply touch it to unlock. Once the phone is on then yes, the button is sensitive to touch, for example double touch to shrink the screen etc... Either way the phone has to constantly monitor for capacitive input even when it is off right, there must be some battery sacrifice for that. Of course it will use more battery than the existing solution as it will constantly be looking for capacitive touch input
Adding to this though, I would like the capacitive side of the home button to be available when the screen is on...
Probably not precisely what you're looking for, but search in settings for "Easy screen turn on" - under Personal -> Accessibilty -> "Dexterity and Interaction" on my device.
Enabling this will allow you to wake up the screen based upon a gesture, and then you can use fingerprint to unlock without actually pressing any hard buttons.
Ok thnx a lot guys
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This is some lazy stuff man. Trying to avoid a having to press a button that you're already touching? To save what, a couple milliseconds?
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This is some lazy stuff man. Trying to avoid a having to press a button that you're already touching? To save what, a couple milliseconds?
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
Exactly!
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
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I did adore this on my iPhone 5s, I am not sure if I would want it on a Edge right now, I am kind of looking for the place to hold the phone anyway, so another capacitive place would not help
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
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I recently had to break out an old GS3 phone to use when my primary one died. It was used for more than two years and the home button still works fine. Wearing out the home button isn't a concern of mine.
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
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To be honest samsung home button very seldom spoil. You don't hear cases of it. From my own experience my s2 lasted over 3 years the phone itself died even though the home button was still perfect. My note 3 is 2.5 yrs now. Home button still perform like day 1. I am pretty sure samsung home button will outlast the phone life.
not available on either my old iphone or my new samsung
yeh i find the fact that you cant just use your fingerprint for unlocking really ****ty. maybe someone'll do an app.
oli_28 said:
I did adore this on my iPhone 5s, I am not sure if I would want it on a Edge right now, I am kind of looking for the place to hold the phone anyway, so another capacitive place would not help
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How did you get this work on the iPhone? Is it a setting as I have always had to press the button to turn on the screen before it recognises the fingerprint.
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How did you get this work on the iPhone? Is it a setting as I have always had to press the button to turn on the screen before it recognises the fingerprint.
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OT: Jailbreak + 'VirtualHome', its actually a fully capacitive home button, I liked it very much..
oli_28 said:
OT: Jailbreak + 'VirtualHome', its actually a fully capacitive home button, I liked it very much..
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Right, so not delivered functionality!
Did some digging as well and apparently it is not a capacitive button as it does not have capacitive points on it, it simply gives the impression of being similar to capacitive due to the circuit between it and the outer ring. If it was capacitive we would have seen swipe gestures added to it under Jailbreak tweaks...
No app yet for unlock the phone without press home button?
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No app yet for unlock the phone without press home button?
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Go to Settings / Accessibility / Dexterity and interaction / Easy screen turn on.
But I find it easier to press the home button and then leave my finger on it to unlock, rather than having to do two separate actions (wave then fingerprint).
I'm looking at the Axon 7 as a replacement for my ZMAX 2 but I HATE the power button (way too flimsy and easy to press) and lockscreen (laggy and unlocks by accident). Are the ones on the Axon better?
I would look up the Axon 7 notification bell before you dive in any further but hopefully they will add an option to disable that at some point. Power button is fine IMO. It's below the volume keys so it's different from other phones I've had but its pretty solid feeling. I dont see any lag with the lockscreen but the double tap to wake sucks, if you like using that. As for the unlocking by accident, I would say the sensors don't always behave like you think you will, sort of weird. But overall it doesn't cause too many problems.
I don't even use the power button most of the time. Simply putting my finger on the fingerprint sensor as soon as I pick it up makes it power up the screen and unlock to the desktop immediately. Also I put "Screen Off" app on one of my Pie Control triggers so I can just slide in from the bezel with my thumb and lift from that quadrant to turn it off.
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I don't even use the power button most of the time. Simply putting my finger on the fingerprint sensor as soon as I pick it up makes it power up the screen and unlock to the desktop immediately. Also I put "Screen Off" app on one of my Pie Control triggers so I can just slide in from the bezel with my thumb and lift from that quadrant to turn it off.
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Youre not on 2017G right? Pie controls don't work on the US models (2017U), just like the on screen buttons.
I use a Nova Launcher gesture to turn the screen off. Double tap to turn off. Phone already has double tap to wake, but as mentioned earlier, most use the fingerprint sensor to unlock. Quick and effective.
Nova launcher gestures ftw. I've set double tap screen to sleep and the capacitive home key set up to turn off screen. Barely use the power key although it's pretty good and sturdy.
Thanks guys-I'm between this and the OnePlus 3 (had the OnePlus One and loved it)!