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Hello all,
Coming from an iphone 3gs, I've had a wonderful experience with the Galaxy S, thanks in large part to the XDA community - Supercurio in particular.
His EQ fix for eclair elevated the Galaxy S audio quality over the iphone 3gs (IMO) which i used as my main music player, and with Froyo the EQ problem was resolved completely.
However, for me, and for a few users as well, a very nasty bug persisted - mp3 files would skip and jitter every 2-3 minutes in every song, and this for an audiophile was unacceptable - and frustrating to the point where i had stopped using the Galaxy S as my main portable player.
Having tried a number of solutions (eliminating widgets, shifting songs to external sd, using a task-killer, bashing my head agaisnt the desk etc), only one worked to put the problem to a permanent end:
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...-playback-stock-player-samsung-captivate.html
pr0virus: "Its from the CPU throttling during playback.
I had the same problem until I noticed while looking at a system panel app that while music was playing my processor would down-clock to 200 sometimes as low as 100mhz.
Got setCPU, set the minimum it would throttle up to 400mhz, kept it on conservative and haven't had a problem. "
So there you have it - Root phone, Install setCPU, set minimum processor speed to 400 (200 works as good in my case) and voila, you have the best PMP on the market!
Also, remove weather and toggle widget as that causes the skipping too
Many thanks again to everyone involved!
I haven't really thought about this problem for awhile. I recently started using my Galaxy S as my primary music player, be it mp3, m4a or flac. The problem is that it always seems to have some issue with a song during playback (aka: a glitch). It is infrequent, but very annoying. My S9 never has an issue, nor did my Clix2. Regardless of file type, and maybe not often, but it happens.
Initial experience with Froyo (xfjp7) was good. Last night it reappeared during playback of an album. Last song and all of a sudden that brief but distracting "glitch."
Will definitely give your advice a try. Thanks,
El Mono
I have this issue with my phone as well, but not consistently.
It goes a step further, though. Half the time it starts skipping, a second later the phone will actually turn itself off. The only way to get it to turn back on is to hold the power button for a long 10 seconds.
Anyone else seen this?
Think the setCPU fix will resolve for me as well?
I've experienced this kind of glitch or lag maybe twice or three times at all with my phone, and it was because i was listening to music, using maps, youtube and internet. I put my songs on external sd card, which seems to be better. And i also use voodoo lagfix (i don't know if it changes something, but my audioplayer became much better).
Hope it helps someone!
Cheers!
@omersak i have been suffering with this problem intermittently, and it was really getting to me and ruining my morning run! after searching i realised it was wrong to blame poweramp or supercurio! i did exactly as you said, but set for 'On Demand' and 200mhz minimum. have not had A SINGLE glitch since!
excellent work! thanks so much, i highly recommend this to anyone with music glitches!
Use poweramp, u can change the buffer settings and audio is fantastic!
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Just came across a disturbing report in a very recent Droid Life review of the Note 3 (from a list of N3 reviews posted on this forum) concerning "Audio Jack Issues". Anybody who treasures their hearing and uses their phablet for audio material (including movies, music, audiobooks, etc), especially using earbuds or headphones, might want to "listen up." The following is an excerpt from the review:
"...When listening to music through the 3.5mm jack, you are sometimes met with a very weak sound. It’s as if the sound of the music isn’t “full” or quite loud enough. Then, after a few minutes without touching anything while at full volume, the volume just explodes and you are left deafened by the surprise volume attack. Some people are pointing towards low-impedance headphones being the issue, but I have had the problem on multiple pairs of headphones, in-ear buds, through car decks, and everything else. It’s a very frustrating and reoccurring issue that I wish Samsung would find a cure for. Until then, I fear listening to music out of this device because I don’t want to go deaf. It might sound crazy, but it’s a very real issue that I experienced over the course of time I had the device."
I've had 3 Samsungs: a flip-phone a few years ago, a Fascinate 2 years ago, and currently Galaxy S3, and just preordered a Note 3. Of the three previous phones, two had infrequent but definitely-occurring audio issues where the volume changed unexpectedly. The flip phone blew out my ears once, and swore after that would never buy another Sammy (what a kidding-myself that turned out to be). What's unnerving is this seems to have appeared intermittently in multiple samsung phone models (the article reports yet another audio jack issue in the S4).
Chatted online with a VZW customer service rep. about this, who was really no help (wasn't her fault, i guess). She just regurgitated the company standard lines--14 days to return, restocking fee, can get a replacement if the problem occurs, etc. But she pretty much stated if there turns out to be a Note 3-specific issue, the customer is stuck with that model of phone; don't expect help from the carrier other than replacing with an identical unit might likely have the same problem; if you enjoy any kind of audio produced by the phone's audio jack, use it at your own risk. (Even more dicey is that it's intermittent--no guarantee you'll be able to demonstrate it to the carrier's service rep.)
Furthermore, i was one of those who got a free continuation of unlimited plan (thanks to the VZW ordering "system glitch" last weekend), which has been reported in the last day that VZW is going to honor contracts which show unlimited data. This rep completely contradicted that and claimed my data will be capped at 2gb at activation time. So with this diametrically-opposed chatter from VZW, what is one supposed to believe? Really suggests getting a satisfactory resolution from any carrier on a brand-specific phone problem like this to be wishful thinking.
Any thoughts or has anybody experienced thru-the-audio-jack sound issues with sammy phone products? My take is i'm not going to be on the bleeding edge of this one, too much of a hearing risk, cancelling preorder and wait for more reports on the N3 as time goes by.
For sure something is wrong with mine. (tmobile N3) The output levels are maybe half or less what my N2 can put out. I have carefully setup audio systems in my house and car, and it is unusable. Its also not USB compatible with the new Kenwood KMM 100u deck that plays FLAC files. It must be a glitch they can fix, i hope! The jack SQ sucks right now.
I hope mine won't have this problem.
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dareo said:
For sure something is wrong with mine. (tmobile N3) The output levels are maybe half or less what my N2 can put out. I have carefully setup audio systems in my house and car, and it is unusable. Its also not USB compatible with the new Kenwood KMM 100u deck that plays FLAC files. It must be a glitch they can fix, i hope! The jack SQ sucks right now.
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I got that the first time you said it.
im experiencing this too with an AU Telstra Note 3.
ive tested it a bit and it seems like its 2 separate things to me, but I could be wrong.
firstly it seems like all EQs either crash or just lose their settings at random moments. this can be things like between track changes or when the 3G signal drops out. if you go back into the EQ panel it will kick in again, almost like it was off and you've launched it again.. very annoying. ive verified this with both the stock EQ and noozxoide. the difference in volume is minimal though, its more quality / bass / whatever EQ you use.
the second part with the volume dropping out completely only happens to me between track changes. if i pause the music for a couple of seconds then play it again, it will play at normal volume. fast forwarding between tracks is the most obvious since every other track will be minimal volume, and the ones in-between normal volume.
ive only tested this with google music. although my phone isnt stock now, the same behaviour was there out of the box. using etymotic earbuds with reasonably high impedance but i doubt thats the issue since pause/replay fixes it.
Doesn't happen to me on N7player or PlayerPro. (nor on videos in Dice, MX or VLC.)
Try not using stock apps if you have the issue. Might just be a stock problem.
I can't test Google music, I disabled that. Stock player itself is too annoying for me to try.
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kanemari said:
im experiencing this too with an AU Telstra Note 3.
ive tested it a bit and it seems like its 2 separate things to me, but I could be wrong.
firstly it seems like all EQs either crash or just lose their settings at random moments. this can be things like between track changes or when the 3G signal drops out. if you go back into the EQ panel it will kick in again, almost like it was off and you've launched it again.. very annoying. ive verified this with both the stock EQ and noozxoide. the difference in volume is minimal though, its more quality / bass / whatever EQ you use.
the second part with the volume dropping out completely only happens to me between track changes. if i pause the music for a couple of seconds then play it again, it will play at normal volume. fast forwarding between tracks is the most obvious since every other track will be minimal volume, and the ones in-between normal volume.
ive only tested this with google music. although my phone isnt stock now, the same behaviour was there out of the box. using etymotic earbuds with reasonably high impedance but i doubt thats the issue since pause/replay fixes it.
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Got the same here. N9005 with Google Play Music. Sometimes it's also (it seems) input-triggered. Sometimes when I push Menu or Back button, volume goes down and when I open Browser volume goes up. I know this sounds like voodoo and I'm completely crazy but I got this situation some times now.
With original sound files this problem came very often but after installing sound mod, it became seldom but not solved.
Annoying!
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Silberpfeil3110 said:
Got the same here. N9005 with Google Play Music. Sometimes it's also (it seems) input-triggered. Sometimes when I push Menu or Back button, volume goes down and when I open Browser volume goes up. I know this sounds like voodoo and I'm completely crazy but I got this situation some times now.
With original sound files this problem came very often but after installing sound mod, it became seldom but not solved.
Annoying!
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I actually moved to the stock sammy app since it was irritating me so much. i have to say though, that if you can be bothered syncing a playlist to your phone that the sound is much better through that... hard to pick fault with.
i set up galaxy adaptive sound first, which is the one that plays high med low tones through left and right channels on your headphones independently and lets you tune it. found a much more balanced tone coming out after that, to which I then applied higher bass EQ settings from within the sammy music player and it sounds pretty good. some distortion on really heavy bass tracks at high volume, but very nice otherwise. MUCH BETTER than variable bass and audio volume on the google music player.
i think samsung neglected to test the standard music APIs and borked them, but their own proprietary ones work fine. the adaptive music filter doesnt work in any player apart from the sammy one I read.
since i cant cross-flash regional roms without voiding knox warranty i havent tried the updated EU roms, but maybe they fix it there?
Experiencing same problem on my AT&T note 3. Google Music tracks will randomly apply a shoddy EQ setting that is either too loud or too soft. Then the next track will be normal. It explodes my ear drums constantly. I have the EQ set off also, but that doesn't seem to matter. Also unplugging and re plugging the headphone jack "fixes" the issue as well. I'm pretty annoyed by this problem.
Anyone else experiencing audio gaps while playing music with screen off?
App doesn't seem to matter (Play Music, N7, ...), Boeffla Sound enabled, Eargasm preset, no saturation prevention, no privacy mode, earphones and speaker boosted and optimised.
Any obvious suspects? Any hints anyone?
NB: Yes, I do use a custom kernel, but I can't tell who's the culprit, so I ask for others experiences to allow to find the cause of it.
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Anyone else experiencing audio gaps while playing music with screen off?
App doesn't seem to matter (Play Music, N7, ...), Boeffla Sound enabled, Eargasm preset, no saturation prevention, no privacy mode, earphones and speaker boosted and optimised.
Any obvious suspects? Any hints anyone?
NB: Yes, I do use a custom kernel, but I can't tell who's the culprit, so I ask for others experiences to allow to find the cause of it.
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Hi
I do not know if this is related but since I installed Omni (coming from latest AOKP); I have issues with my Samsung HS3000 Bluetooth receiver, i use poweramp and I experience a lot of skips when playing music (poweramp is set to automatically turn off the screen after a few seconds); I increased buffer size, poweramp priority, bluetooth priority but the skips remain... Playing thru headphones directly plugged in is ok
Hey guys,
I've been having this issue as well, and I've managed to narrow down what's wrong, but still haven't been able to fix it or find out what's causing it. I'm using stock kernel with the latest nightly on a GS4 i9505.
The issue seems to be that the device is constantly going into Deep Sleep mode. Go into the Performance tab in Settings (unlock Developer Mode first, I think) and have a look at the Time In State data. Right now, for 12h of uptime, my phone is showing 8h of Deep Sleep, despite me using it as GPS and listening to Audiobooks for most of the work day. Even more, it's been happening while I am actually USING the device.
Additionally, it's reporting that my Max CPU speed is 0 MHz, with Min at 486 MHz. Any time I put the slider up to full (or anything, really), it forgets it and goes back down to 0. I've changed Governer and Scheduler, and even used other tweaking apps to control the kernel, but nothing seems to stick.
On the whole, I'd really not mind too much except I listen to audio books while I'm working/driving, and having it skip and stutter because the phone is struggling to process the audio is exceedingly frustrating.
Going to take a closer look around for this, now that I know what the issue is. Putting it up here so you guys can look as well.
Cheers.
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Hi
I do not know if this is related but since I installed Omni (coming from latest AOKP); I have issues with my Samsung HS3000 Bluetooth receiver, i use poweramp and I experience a lot of skips when playing music (poweramp is set to automatically turn off the screen after a few seconds); I increased buffer size, poweramp priority, bluetooth priority but the skips remain... Playing thru headphones directly plugged in is ok
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I haven't been using the default music app because randomly it does an action after a while of playback, pretty much every few minutes; back, forward, pause, whatever, it random action just randomly happens. I've wondered if I somehow accidentally used some sort of gesture or touched the screen, but it happens when the screen is off as well and there doesn't seem to be any gesture that would affect the music app anyway. Does anyone have any idea what can be causing this?
I've been using PowerAmp which doesn't seem to support the A7's DAC. I have it set to 24 bit sound in the last Alpha of PowerAmp (which was many months ago, I've given up on any update for PowerAmp ever arriving) but after side by side sample comparisons they do sound different. The problem is I'm not sure if there's a slight volume difference between programs causing that, or if it's some setting, or if it really is due to the output being done on different DACs resulting in the differences. Pocket Now's video stating it only outputs 16 bit downsampled audio has also stuck in my mind, but despite contacting them twice on different social media, they never responded. That's infuriating, making a bold statement like that, then never providing an explanation and leaving it ambiguous, never stating if the downsampling was at software level, firmware level, or anything.
So I basically have no idea what the hell is going on with the audio on this thing in any way, from software to hardware. That's incredibly frustrating considering the DAC is a major reason why I bought this phone instead of something else.
Edit: I forgot to ask, what software should I use to confirm what sort of bit rate depth the Axon 7 is outputting? I have a Sound Blaster ZxR for recording, so I can plug the A7 right into that.
I can't tell you how to test the depth of the audio coming from the cell. If you can't tell the difference is there any real point? It it just a matter of wanting the product you thought you were paying for?
For the other issue, a really simple thing you've probably done already is checking that ZTE's voice software isn't enabled for media control. An old S4 of mine would go "back" any time a sound remotely like a short "a" played.
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I can't tell you how to test the depth of the audio coming from the cell. If you can't tell the difference is there any real point? It it just a matter of wanting the product you thought you were paying for?
For the other issue, a really simple thing you've probably done already is checking that ZTE's voice software isn't enabled for media control. An old S4 of mine would go "back" any time a sound remotely like a short "a" played.
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I can tell a difference, on the default music player it sounds better, for example instruments sound more crisp and separated from the rest of the audio. The issue is that I can't tell if that perception of more crisp/separated sound is due to a slight difference of volume between programs which is difficult to perceive. Just to add to the confusion, different songs seem to have different volume levels on each player, which aren't consistent. For example song A may be louder on PowerAmp, but song B is louder on the stock player. In those cases where the songs are clearly different volumes (maybe 10% of the time) it makes it extremely difficult to tell which one sounds better to me. This is with all equalizer/Dolby settings disabled.
Humans easily mistake higher volume for "better" quality in various ways. That's really the reason for the "volume wars" or whatever it's called; music was often mastered with levels just blasting instead of balancing the audio properly.
What I was asking is what free program can I use to record audio from my phone to check if it's outputting 24 bit audio? But on that same note, yes, I suppose that would also let me directly measure volume as well.
As for the voice recognition, I'll try disabling that and see if it helps, but isn't that supposed to only work when holding down the back key anyway? Also, often when it did a random command like next or previous song, I was silent.
Ah, I see. Sorry to not be helpful whatsoever.
Hmm y somehow ZTE has volume differences. I also noticed it if i enable/disable Dolby Atmos.
But i also think that ZTE set up some DSP stuff on AK4490/61. I would be happy if there was an app which could change DSP etc settings of this DACs :/
I also noticed the fluctuating volume, for me it's via bluetooth.
It would progressively become quiet and when the next song starts it would scare the crap out of me (much louder), then repeat.
Rarely, it would continue to play randomly after I disconnect from bluetooth (not immediately after).
So it would be nice if someone found a good music player that takes advantage of the DACs and not exhibit random behavior -- alternatively if this was fixed that would also be good.
EDIT: For me, it happens in a certain volume range in the upper end. Anything lower or higher this does not happen.
Hi guys,
I am using bluetooth audio in my car and I noticed just after buying this phone, that when I set phone volume to 100% (in general, any volume above 67%), which I always do, since stock audio is not much powerful, volume changes rapidly during a song. To be more specific - I listen to electronic music and during every kick, volume goes down and up in the gaps between them, so it sounds like a wave. Higher frequencies or silent passages are loud as hell, lower bassy sounds are silent and this changes 2-3 times a second. It rips my ears off.
With my previous phones used in this car (LG G3, Zenfone Max 3), I never had this issue. I even tested some very cheap phones, every single one of them was ok, sound was not even distorted on max phone volume. On any bluetooth headphones it's the same case, so it's not car audio issue. Also when using corded headphones or aux, sound is perfectly fine as it should be.
What I already tried to fix it:
Messing with every setting in developer mode
Unpairing smart watch (just in case)
Tried loads of different audio players - with no EQ on, just flat
Reset to factory settings
Nothing helped. I lost almost a month with Asus "so called" support, I even shot a video for them with clear evidence what is happening. No help, except they tried to make an idiot of me. I get angry just thinking about that communication with them. Am I really the only one with this issue? I don't believe that warranty claim would solve anything and I really want to keep this phone.
Any help would be really appreciated. Thank you.
Try this, Goto Developer Options, activate the "Disable Absolute Volume" toggle (see screenshot). Disconnect and reconnect your Bluetooth connection. Hope it'll work out for you.
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Try this, Goto Developer Options, activate the "Disable Absolute Volume" toggle (see screenshot). Disconnect and reconnect your Bluetooth connection. Hope it'll work out for you.
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Actually, this was the very first thing I tried. Just to be sure, I did it once again together with disconnecting and reconnecting as well, nothing changed...
How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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I am using JetAudio and optimization is turned off. Tried volume control you suggested, but it makes no difference. Sound is still messed up.
I use Shuttle as music player, bare in mind that every recording has a different mastering approach, thus volume levelling could be varied, especially on first pressed of classic records. Usually I am amplifying low signal wave records manually. But to keep away from such trouble, I suggest Spotify since it has normalizing feature, or turn on this feature if it is available in your music player.
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How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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I use poweramp.
It really help you. Give a try.
Do not use any third party equalizer app with Poweramp,use it's own eq .
I use CM's audiofx since it has somewhat subtle enhancement, aggressive sound tweak is nice but after 10 minutes or so, it tends to hurt my (old) ears. So most of the time I turn off EQ in order to preserve original sound, not that always works though, especially when it comes to mainstream records.
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I use Shuttle as music player, bare in mind that every recording has a different mastering approach, thus volume levelling could be varied, especially on first pressed of classic records. Usually I am amplifying low signal wave records manually. But to keep away from such trouble, I suggest Spotify since it has normalizing feature, or turn on this feature if it is available in your music player.
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I am listening to my offline archive, not using Spotify etc. There is no way how the source file is affected - maybe one, but hundreds of tracks? Nope. If I have 67% volume or less set in my phone, sound is fine (but overall volume is low, since stock audio has no other amplifier. But when phone is set to 100%, no matter how loud I set car audio, sound gets wavy then. No other phone ever had this issue, I tried direct comparison as well.
I managed to do some test for a whole album on my way home, I could declare the volume level as well as connection was quite stable with no apparent bitrate drop. As a matter of fact it's superior than realme 2 pro which was suck big time in audio department. Although it is no comparison to my now dead lg V10, at this price point I can safely say I'm quite satisfied. The stereo is neither after market nor android auto.
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I managed to do some test for a whole album on my way home, I could declare the volume level as well as connection was quite stable with no apparent bitrate drop. As a matter of fact it's superior than realme 2 pro which was suck big time in audio department. Although it is no comparison to my now dead lg V10, at this price point I can safely say I'm quite satisfied. The stereo is neither after market nor android auto.
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Thank you for your efforts, so it looks like this is issue on my side. I already contacted seller and I will apply for warranty claim, because there's nothing more I can do.
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I am listening to my offline archive, not using Spotify etc. There is no way how the source file is affected - maybe one, but hundreds of tracks? Nope. If I have 67% volume or less set in my phone, sound is fine (but overall volume is low, since stock audio has no other amplifier. But when phone is set to 100%, no matter how loud I set car audio, sound gets wavy then. No other phone ever had this issue, I tried direct comparison as well.
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I also have the same problem with my Bluetooth headphones (Sony WH CH400) which does not happen on my Redmi 3S (PE 9).
Songs can't hit the high frequencies and sound gets lowered down.
I googled and apparently its the stock Bluetooth stack that doesn't let the bitrate go above certain amount and needs some patching which Asus may not do.
Check this https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/improve-bluetooth-audio-quality-t3832615
@Junglista what did you do? found any workaround?
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@Junglista what did you do? found any workaround?
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Not yet, I read briefly the forum you advised, but I need to dig in a bit more. Anyway, even this the closest cause, I don't believe that this is issue is bitrate related (but I may be wrong). I still can hear high frequencies in music, but when bassy part comes in, it's like someone turns higher frequencies volume down, so you can hardly hear them. And when bass is gone, volume rises again to "match" volume of lower frequencies. I still did not apply for warranty claim, because according to the forum you posted, I don't want to give up early and try patching the stack (if I will be able to somehow). Nevertheless, I know exactly what reply I would receive after 30 days at after sales service - issue was not found.
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Thank you for your efforts, so it looks like this is issue on my side. I already contacted seller and I will apply for warranty claim, because there's nothing more I can do.
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Hey! Literally i have the same problem. I have the same phone 4 gb variant. I previously used a phone with dolby and now this phone sucks. I think every phone unit has the same problem.
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Not yet, I read briefly the forum you advised, but I need to dig in a bit more. Anyway, even this the closest cause, I don't believe that this is issue is bitrate related (but I may be wrong). I still can hear high frequencies in music, but when bassy part comes in, it's like someone turns higher frequencies volume down, so you can hardly hear them. And when bass is gone, volume rises again to "match" volume of lower frequencies. I still did not apply for warranty claim, because according to the forum you posted, I don't want to give up early and try patching the stack (if I will be able to somehow). Nevertheless, I know exactly what reply I would receive after 30 days at after sales service - issue was not found.
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I've requested a developer to implement this in his rom. Let's wait and hope the issue to be addressed by our amazing community, else our only hope is Asus Pie update.
PS. I have the exact issue, maybe I explained poorly. lol.
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I've requested a developer to implement this in his rom. Let's wait and hope the issue to be addressed by our amazing community, else our only hope is Asus Pie update.
PS. I have the exact issue, maybe I explained poorly. lol.
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I have the same issue with audio quality via bluetooth. Hope Asus will fix it
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I have the same issue with audio quality via bluetooth. Hope Asus will fix it
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I've reported the bug on ZenTalk. I encourage everyone to report there too because it should be Asus' duty to fix this bug on stock rom.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-266521-1-1.html
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I've reported the bug on ZenTalk. I encourage everyone to report there too because it should be Asus' duty to fix this bug on stock rom.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-266521-1-1.html
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I just put my comment there, hopefully things will start to move. Thanks for helping with this.
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Hey! Literally i have the same problem. I have the same phone 4 gb variant. I previously used a phone with dolby and now this phone sucks. I think every phone unit has the same problem.
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Hey i found a way to tweak up things. The new omni player is on xda. It has a setting called output method. Select the OPEN SL ES. .ur problem will be solved.
App link: https://www-xda--developers-com.cdn...esign-audio-google-cast-android-auto-support/