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Yesterday, I found some time to try a retail demo G6 and compared to the Galaxy S6, however, the demo G6 I tried wasn't connected to Wi-Fi, so I couldn't test some things. out. Click "click to show content" below for my findings (taken from my Instagram post that I had copied before posting, since Instagram decided to screw up the formatting).
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(Go to my Instagram account via a link on my XDA profile and find the original photo there)
(I have a few questions for any of you who own a LG G6 or other LG phone running their version of Android 7.0 so expand the description if you want to see those questions)
I found a demo LG G6, and decided to try it out, to find out that...
LG actually uses the Google emoji from stock Android!!! Yes!!!!!
Unlike that Sam-suck Galaxy S8 that uses their crappy and hard to read emoji that I absolutely hate.
I also found that LG's version of Android also has custom font support. Hopefully it's actually using FlipFont, because if that's the case, I could load my custom Comic Neue font package that I have on my Galaxy Tab A and use that.
(Does LG's Android use FlipFont or another font system where I can easily create a custom font package to use there?)
LG's Android also has custom theme support, so hopefully there's a theme that can make it look like stock Android 7.0, but sadly, the demo G6 I tried wasn't connected to WiFi. I already know LG's custom launcher has 2 versions, one with an app drawer and one without.
(Is there a theme for LG phones that can make it look like stock Android?)
Another thing I didn't notice in reviews on YouTube is that the power button is combined with the fingerprint sensor. Nice!!
Plus, LG's Android does have user changeable DPI settings. Hopefully that setting doesn't only affect LG apps.
One thing I forgot to check is if LG's Android has a blue light filter, which CyanogenMod does have.
(Does LG's version of Android have some kind of blue light filter or "night mode"?)
Even then, I'm probably not gonna upgrade my phone this year, because I had already gone through so much trouble trying to sign back in to all my apps after transferring to the Galaxy Tab A WiFi+cellular, unless there is an Android app (that does not require root) that can actually preserve app data so I would be able to continue right where I left off after switching to a new phone.
With that, I am considering getting a G6 (in silver or black, 64GB) (either that, or I might wait for either the G7 or whatever the next OnePlus will be called) but want to ask some questions, mainly pertaining to the software experience, which is my main deciding factor when it comes to buying an Android device.
Anyway, just open the spoiler thing above if you don't understand why I'm asking the following questions.
Does LG's Android use FlipFont or another font system where I can easily create a custom font package to use there?
Is there a theme for LG phones that can make it look like stock Android?
Does LG's version of Android have some kind of blue light filter or "night mode"?
kbhasi said:
Yesterday, I found some time to try a retail demo G6 and compared to the Galaxy S6, however, the demo G6 I tried wasn't connected to Wi-Fi, so I couldn't test some things. out. Click "click to show content" below for my findings (taken from my Instagram post that I had copied before posting, since Instagram decided to screw up the formatting).
(Go to my Instagram account via a link on my XDA profile and find the original photo there)
(I have a few questions for any of you who own a LG G6 or other LG phone running their version of Android 7.0 so expand the description if you want to see those questions)
I found a demo LG G6, and decided to try it out, to find out that...
LG actually uses the Google emoji from stock Android!!! Yes!!!!!
Unlike that Sam-suck Galaxy S8 that uses their crappy and hard to read emoji that I absolutely hate.
I also found that LG's version of Android also has custom font support. Hopefully it's actually using FlipFont, because if that's the case, I could load my custom Comic Neue font package that I have on my Galaxy Tab A and use that.
(Does LG's Android use FlipFont or another font system where I can easily create a custom font package to use there?)
LG's Android also has custom theme support, so hopefully there's a theme that can make it look like stock Android 7.0, but sadly, the demo G6 I tried wasn't connected to WiFi. I already know LG's custom launcher has 2 versions, one with an app drawer and one without.
(Is there a theme for LG phones that can make it look like stock Android?)
Another thing I didn't notice in reviews on YouTube is that the power button is combined with the fingerprint sensor. Nice!!
Plus, LG's Android does have user changeable DPI settings. Hopefully that setting doesn't only affect LG apps.
One thing I forgot to check is if LG's Android has a blue light filter, which CyanogenMod does have.
(Does LG's version of Android have some kind of blue light filter or "night mode"?)
Even then, I'm probably not gonna upgrade my phone this year, because I had already gone through so much trouble trying to sign back in to all my apps after transferring to the Galaxy Tab A WiFi+cellular, unless there is an Android app (that does not require root) that can actually preserve app data so I would be able to continue right where I left off after switching to a new phone.
With that, I am considering getting a G6 (in silver or black, 64GB) (either that, or I might wait for either the G7 or whatever the next OnePlus will be called) but want to ask some questions, mainly pertaining to the software experience, which is my main deciding factor when it comes to buying an Android device.
Anyway, just open the spoiler thing above if you don't understand why I'm asking the following questions.
Does LG's Android use FlipFont or another font system where I can easily create a custom font package to use there?
Is there a theme for LG phones that can make it look like stock Android?
Does LG's version of Android have some kind of blue light filter or "night mode"?
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1: No idea
2: kind of, but apparently the text color in the settings is tied to to the one in the notification shade so you tend to get both of them either with a dark or a light color. Check the themes forum.
2: Yes
Obscure Reference said:
1: No idea
2: kind of, but apparently the text color in the settings is tied to to the one in the notification shade so you tend to get both of them either with a dark or a light color. Check the themes forum.
2: Yes
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I tried, but I couldn't find it.
Closest I found was a "Pixel" theme, but I think I might be able to combine that with Nova Launcher + one of those stock Android icon packs for 3rd party launchers + Google Gboard + a bunch of stock Android apps that Google has uploaded to the Play Store, to get as close to stock Android as possible, or I might wait for LineageOS or another custom rom with the stock Android UI to be released for the G6.
(I do like using Nova Launcher Prime because one of the things it allows me to do is to hide a number of the Samsung apps and bloatware on my Galaxy Tab A, plus I can hide the app drawer behind a double tap gesture)
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I tried, but I couldn't find it.
Closest I found was a "Pixel" theme, but I think I might be able to combine that with Nova Launcher + one of those stock Android icon packs for 3rd party launchers + Google Gboard + a bunch of stock Android apps that Google has uploaded to the Play Store, to get as close to stock Android as possible, or I might wait for LineageOS or another custom rom with the stock Android UI to be released for the G6.
(I do like using Nova Launcher Prime because one of the things it allows me to do is to hide a number of the Samsung apps and bloatware on my Galaxy Tab A, plus I can hide the app drawer behind a double tap gesture)
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You can actually hide apps in the stock launchers too.
So now that the cricket vareint has root, what are some edits we should make in a custom rom for it? I am new to developing so bear with me, but when my rom comes into production it's going to be called the people's rom. I am only starting with the basis of it to be extremely user friendly and customizable, probably using smart launcher as the default? give me some ideas, other developers help me make it happen!
I've found a few neat hacks, for example you can remove or rename /system/vendor/overlay and it will remove a bunch of cricket branding, however it may cause unintended side effects, I haven't really noticed any issues but ymmv.
Also if you look around someone has modified maxxaudio to not require the boom key, if you flash that you won't have to hit the boom key to increase audio quality.
In the root thread I started someone posted how to enable WiFi hotspot as well, I would include that.
I'm planning on doing some ui tweaks, will post here if I manage to do anything useful. Main thing I want to do is hide the brightness slider in the notification drawer and bake in the status bar brightness control you can get with gravitybox. Also I want to enable the stock Android power menu, but IDK how far I'll get with that.
One more thing, I'd just stick with the stock launcher or one that's very lightweight when it comes to filesize, since it's not difficult to install them off the play store and not everyone will like smart launcher
Hi everyone. The ideal rom does not exist and this situation makes XDA so great for all of us. I think will be usefull to share here different OREO experiences. It is hard to compare two roms - or more - this is not my purpose. Everyone has his own reasons and objectives choosing one or another. Different problems in OREO could find here different answers. So sharing experience will be good for all.
So, to start. I have G variant. 2 Sims - one for calls - permanent - and other for data/internet - that I switch ON wheather I need - otherwise is disabled. SD card is 100...G formatted as exFAT - obvious for passing the 4G transfer limit. So far, the only oreo rom that works in these conditions [on my knowledge] is NFound's RR Oreo 20180220. All ohthers I tried fails one condition or another. I need to be able to switch on/off sims and wold not format my card back to fat32.
What I miss - stock camera [slowmotion] and full functionality of AKM DAC.
Please feel free to share here your oreo experience - what U have and what you dont so far. Thank you all.
This does not belong in development section. Could you delete/move it or can a mod move it to appropriate one?
Yes please move this interesting topic to 'Guides, News and Discussing'
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Yes please move this interesting topic to 'Guides, News and Discussing'
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Yes! One very important comment, thank you.
Black dialer
OK, I continue to share my experience in OREO, till others will dare to do as well. I dislyke the bright interface od the dialer - in general, considering eye impact and battery drain, I tried to set everything as close to dark, and yes, second sim for data only enabled when I need internet outside wifi range.
So I searched for dark interface in dialer and I found from another phone "GoogleDialer_Mod_v4_ambient.zip" and "GoogleDialer_Mod_v4_ambient.apk".
In twrp - installed the zip and at reboot the apk - then in settings default dialer. So I have the Black dialer working fine....(except sound bugs in RR Oreo by Nfound)
And yes, 128G sd card exFAT formatted as I mentioned before.
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OK, I continue to share my experience in OREO, till others will dare to do as well. I dislyke the bright interface od the dialer - in general, considering eye impact and battery drain, I tried to set everything as close to dark, and yes, second sim for data only enabled when I need internet outside wifi range.
So I searched for dark interface in dialer and I found from another phone "GoogleDialer_Mod_v4_ambient.zip" and "GoogleDialer_Mod_v4_ambient.apk".
In twrp - installed the zip and at reboot the apk - then in settings default dialer. So I have the Black dialer working fine....(except sound bugs in RR Oreo by Nfound)
And yes, 128G sd card exFAT formatted as I mentioned before.
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What Oreo are you talking about? If it's AEX or one of those, just use substratum
Black Dialer and Substratum
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What Oreo are you talking about? If it's AEX or one of those, just use substratum
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Thank you for your answer. First, as I mentioned before, I'm on the ONLY OREO rom - in my experience at least - that recognizes my 128G exFAT formatted AND has the option to enable/disable sims one by one. That is RR-O-v6.0.0-20180220.
For a custom black dialer, solution I found after diggin' some was easy - 1 - install a zip in twrp and a app afterwards, and voila! Black dialer working.
I tried Substratum..."alwaysON"...not too happy becouse if I tried to leave it and return to home launcher only solution was to press power - I wanted a software action not a hardware one. Maybe I do not now how to use it. Also, I was looking for threads about Substratum on our Axon7, and....I could not found any significant.
As long as you seem to know more about this matter, please, for the ones that do not know, shere here your experience and knowledge regarding Substratum - install and use - in Axon7. Thank you!
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Thank you for your answer. First, as I mentioned before, I'm on the ONLY OREO rom - in my experience at least - that recognizes my 128G exFAT formatted AND has the option to enable/disable sims one by one. That is RR-O-v6.0.0-20180220.
For a custom black dialer, solution I found after diggin' some was easy - 1 - install a zip in twrp and a app afterwards, and voila! Black dialer working.
I tried Substratum..."alwaysON"...not too happy becouse if I tried to leave it and return to home launcher only solution was to press power - I wanted a software action not a hardware one. Maybe I do not now how to use it. Also, I was looking for threads about Substratum on our Axon7, and....I could not found any significant.
As long as you seem to know more about this matter, please, for the ones that do not know, shere here your experience and knowledge regarding Substratum - install and use - in Axon7. Thank you!
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Lol no. Using Substratum in the Axon 7 is the same as using it anywhere else - install theme, then go to its settings, choose required app versions/options, build and enable. There's nothing weird with it, and the worst bug you can get is maybe some text not being readable.
There's no need for an Axon 7 thread about Substratum because it is universal
And the AOD module is actually a simple thingy that just enables a hidden Android feature, which is buggy by itself
Custom black dialer, yes, but then you may want black xda, black youtube (in this case i use iYTBP but you can just theme official youtube), black UI... And you're surely not going to swap the apps one by one.
Tkank you for your answer. Appologise for my lack of knowledge - but this is why I'm here - to know more, to experience and to share .
Going back to the important things in an OREO rom, I would like you all to consider: (obviuos my personal subjective choice)
- phone functionality with 2 sims, option for enable/disable one or another;
- recognition of exFAT SD;
- camera - close to stock options, of course slow motion included;
- gps 100% functionality.
I wait for your sollutions/experiences. Thank you.
And of course, if you have any other interesting subjects about oreo - plese join. Thank you.
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- recognition of exFAT SD;
- gps 100% functionality.
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Fixed on latest AEX
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Fixed on latest AEX
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Do you have any idea why it drops a lot of frames with no modifications to the kernel? I have to use Conservative to fix the frame drops or it stutters.
Otherwise the ROM is great
RECAP of considerations for best ROM
Roms develop, some problems still remain. This is why I wanted to share information with others.
So, my...subjective choices are:
- full working phone - no sound bugs
- full working phone - available settings to enable/disable one sim or another
- ExFat external SD card available/recognised
- full option camera (slowmo...)
- full availability of DAC.
Well - some options are to be found in some roms, untill now I see no oreo based to fullfill all these - I say - normal demands.
If anybody has some other opinion, please say it here. Thank you all. Best oreo rom...still in the devs kitcheen...
Hi there! Thanks for your post, I'm currently try to switch to an Oreo based rom to try the new features. I'll give AEX a try and we'll see how it goes.
Hey guys,
up till today I'm still using a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Android 4.3.
It is modded to the max to exactly meet my needs and "paranoia":
- Custom Rom TouchWiz based rom
- Custom Kernel with some special script based tweaks (for example: MAC randomization everytime I turn Wifi on - handy for time limited free access points and to prevent beeing tracked etc.)
- Full Disk Encryption with a password different than my unlock pin (so when the device is off it requires a long password, but when on only a shorter pin)
- Xposed with the "old" Xprivacy Pro, Greenify and lots of other useful modules (like device shutdown after x failed amounts of unlock password etc)
- Lightning Launcher (allows "pinned" widgets that do not scroll - like the clock always beeing shown on top of all my homescreens) and custom widgets made with UCCW
- Button mods (double tap menu button turns on/off auto rotation, long menu switches last two apps, long back kills foreground app etc.) and homebutton mod to turn on flashlight when held while device is locked (to turn it on blindly / without looking)
- Sidebar Launcher Appsi for all my apps (and using xprivacy to prevent certain apps from showing up in the list at all)
... etc etc.
It took me a long time to set up everything and whenever I bought a new phone I sold it soon after because they never could be modded that hard like my old note 3 could be. (not to mention the built in batteries - I HATE that so much about all new devices).
Long story short: The Mi A1 could maaaaybe finally be the device to replace my Note 3 - but for that I need to be able to really mod it hard again hehe.
What really is important to me is beeing able to use xposed and xprivacy (unfortunately the xprivacy lua is not that good as the old one as far as it reads in the description), controlling the device encryption with my own 20+ Character Passphrase while still having a shorter pin when the device is booted up (and it beeing "full device encryption" not just file based if that still exists?). Removing all google apps except the playstore (and the account manager - dont even want the google play services crap) and preferably beeing able to install modded playstore which does not autoupdate itself etc.
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Do you guys think this is possible at all? And if so - should I stay with a 7.1.2 based rom or go for oreo? I mainly care about modability as I explained..
Hope someone is in the same boat or at least knows enough about this phone and the roms/kernels/availabe and working xposed mods to help me out.
There's pretty much no development for Nougat so it would be better if you were to get on oreo
Modabillity is pretty great with this phone so far
Look around on xda and see if you like it
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There's pretty much no development for Nougat so it would be better if you were to get on oreo
Modabillity is pretty great with this phone so far
Look around on xda and see if you like it
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but does xposed and stuff like modded playstore etc exist/work for oreo? and do you maybe know if its possible to have a different boot password than just the unlock pin when device is powered on?
and how about rootcloak and stuff like that? On my old note i can pretty much fake everything to apps and prevent root to be detected or feed them with fake data through xprivacy - but does this all still work to the same extend on the newer android versions? This safetynet bull**** has been around since when again? Can that still be fooled?
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but does xposed and stuff like modded playstore etc exist/work for oreo? and do you maybe know if its possible to have a different boot password than just the unlock pin when device is powered on?
and how about rootcloak and stuff like that? On my old note i can pretty much fake everything to apps and prevent root to be detected or feed them with fake data through xprivacy - but does this all still work to the same extend on the newer android versions? This safetynet bull**** has been around since when again? Can that still be fooled?
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I'm not really sure about modded play store and boot password stuff but what I do know is that you can use Magisk (Similar to SuperSu + Extra useful mods) to hide root from certain apps that you choose
Xposed does work perfectly fine but it depends on the modules and whether they work on oreo. If not, magisk modules are also pretty good
If you happen to own a phone that you can flash Oreo on, (see, Lineage 15), then you can pretty much know and discover everything about Oreo and how modding works on it
Request one of our many gracious and wonderful developers to port a Samsung Nougat ROM for our beloved P905. I understand that porting a One UI based ROM would be very tough because of the deep changes. I hope porting a Nougat ROM from one of the many Samsung Nougat tablets would be a tad more do-able.
I once again acknowledge that our developers have their own lives to lead and priorities in life and are doing us a favor by spending their valuable time to develop ports and Lineage OS based latest android builds for our aging dinosaur.
A Samsung Nougat based ROM would be wonderful for the P905.
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Request one of our many gracious and wonderful developers to port a Samsung Nougat ROM for our beloved P905. I understand that porting a One UI based ROM would be very tough because of the deep changes. I hope porting a Nougat ROM from one of the many Samsung Nougat tablets would be a tad more do-able.
I once again acknowledge that our developers have their own lives to lead and priorities in life and are doing us a favor by spending their valuable time to develop ports and Lineage OS based latest android builds for our aging dinosaur.
A Samsung Nougat based ROM would be wonderful for the P905.
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Hi Chudu.
What are the Samsung specific features that you're looking for when it comes to One UI or Touchwiz?
Hi shardsx,
By Samsung specific features, I mean mainly the Samsung Touchwiz/Grace UI and the myriad of settings and customization features unique to Samsung firmware.
And as a possible bonus, if the ported ROM is from another S-pen supported tablet/phone, then the included S-pen features would be the icing on the cake.
Developers like Valeria1978 have developed Lineage0S for this aging tablet based on Android 10 and it feels so much lighter on the resources. But inevitably, I find myself going back to the Note 7 ported ROM because I miss the stock Samsung firmware look and features.
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Hi shardsx,
By Samsung specific features, I mean mainly the Samsung Touchwiz/Grace UI and the myriad of settings and customization features unique to Samsung firmware.
And as a possible bonus, if the ported ROM is from another S-pen supported tablet/phone, then the included S-pen features would be the icing on the cake.
Developers like Valeria1978 have developed Lineage0S for this aging tablet based on Android 10 and it feels so much lighter on the resources. But inevitably, I find myself going back to the Note 7 ported ROM because I miss the stock Samsung firmware look and features.
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Unfortunately it appears that the best path forward is to go with the Lineage OS builds from Valera1978. There hasn't been any other developers taking up the mantle with the P905, so we're only here at Android 10 by the good graces of Valera and his work. This is why I was curious to see if there was something specific to Touchwiz ROMs that appeal to you which could be mimicked in software but allow you to continue using the latest Lineage builds. For example, there's online praise of SPenCommand which is a 3rd party app (outside of Google Play) that recreates TouchWiz's S-Pen functionality for Lineage and AOSP ROMs, (note that I haven't personally purchased or used this software). LectureNotes, which I do use, is a very good note-taking alternative to S-Notes.
Since knowledge emerged on how to fix the S-Pen palm rejection that has been broken since Lineage 15.1, Lineage 17.1 has been my daily driver and working pretty well. I would have liked to stick to Lineage 16.1 as I find it more stable and polished than 17.1 but I cannot get a successful compile of Valera's 16.1 ROM to boot on my tablet.
If anyone can figure that out, I can probably provide a Lineage 16.1 build that:
- enables S-Pen palm rejection
- enables Bluetooth pairing of PS4 DualShock4 controller without the associated nasty input lag
I fully agree with you. I have not tried the Spencommand software, but now that you have mentioned it, I will try to find it and use it.
Apart from the comparative lack of customizability, there are 3 reasons which I find irksome about the 17.1 build.
First is the rotation bug. After a while, the tablet simply gets stuck in portrait mode and only a reboot gets the landscape mode working again.
Secondly, I need to swipe at least 3 or 4 times in order to pull down the quick settings and notification shade and it is extremely slow while it opens out.
Thirdly, I use my P905 a lot for making calls and in spite of trying everything, I'm unable to hear the voice of the person on the other line when on voice calls. I'm forced to use a Bluetooth speaker which is not always convenient.
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I fully agree with you. I have not tried the Spencommand software, but now that you have mentioned it, I will try to find it and use it.
Apart from the comparative lack of customizability, there are 3 reasons which I find irksome about the 17.1 build.
First is the rotation bug. After a while, the tablet simply gets stuck in portrait mode and only a reboot gets the landscape mode working again.
Secondly, I need to swipe at least 3 or 4 times in order to pull down the quick settings and notification shade and it is extremely slow while it opens out.
Thirdly, I use my P905 a lot for making calls and in spite of trying everything, I'm unable to hear the voice of the person on the other line when on voice calls. I'm forced to use a Bluetooth speaker which is not always convenient.
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The telephony aspect of this tablet is something that I am unable to provide any alternatives. My carrier appears to be incompatible with my tablet so I never looked into this at all.
In terms of the rotation bug, I use an app called Ultimate Rotation Control and manually rotate using its Notification widget. This bug exists with all versions of Lineage OS and this was the only workaround I've found which consistently works.
For the notification shade, this is one area that I think Lineage 16.1 offers a smoother experience. I found that certain apps like Youtube, TunedIn Radio, or any apps that utilizes a background image for its notification card will cause the notification shade to lag. Once an affecting app generates a notification card that causes the stuttering behavior, there's no way to recover other than to reboot. Even if the affecting app is closed, the notification shade continues to be slow and stuttery. The only workaround I've found is to disable all notifications for the affecting apps and then reboot.
In terms of quickly pulling down the notification shade with everything expanded in one go, there is an option in Lineage OS in the Settings app, under System > Status Bar -> Quick Pulldown. Enabling this option will allow a single swipe from the status bar to display a fully expanded notification shade with all the toggles and cards expanded.
I know the biggest problem for you is the telephony and call volume. Unfortunately nothing I have said is going to help with that. I hope perhaps Valera or a new developer may be able to help you. At least I hope my words would help anyone else with similar problems who happens to stumble upon this post.
Lastly, I'd like to share that to get the experience of a fullsize keyboard similar to Touchwiz, Hacker's Keyboard is probably as close as you can get with so little developers producing keyboards that are appropriate for tablets of this size.
Thank you so much for all this information. I will definitely try out the spencommand apk and hacker's keyboard.
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Thank you so much for all this information. I will definitely try out the spencommand apk and hacker's keyboard.
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Hi Chudu,
I'm afraid to report bad news. I tried SPenCommand downloaded from the developer's page but it doesn't seem to launch on my device using Lineage OS 17.1. If you are going to try and switch ROMs to try this software, please be aware of this potential snag.
Hi shardsx,
Can you provide me a link to the download page? I'll try it out on my weekly off and see if I'm able to launch it.
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Hi shardsx,
Can you provide me a link to the download page? I'll try it out on my weekly off and see if I'm able to launch it.
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The developer of this app is called @emandt. He had a thread about this app here at XDA.
His website is http://www.emandt.net/Android/SPenCommand/Website/. On this page you can find the download links. This is a paid app hosted outside the Google Store and relies on an in-app purchase to unlock. As I mentioned, this app seems to instantaneously close on me so it seems to do nothing. The author seems to have last updated this app to support Android Oreo or Lineage 15.