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US T-Mobile HD2 pricing. 3/8/10. more info

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-nuron-and-cliq-xt-pricing-cometh/
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http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=11440.msg249265#msg249265
$199/contract. $449/no contract
The prices looks good to me. Now just have to wait a few weeks..
3/8/10
MirasHD2 said:
Saw this on the tmo site for the HD2
†On approved credit. $112.50 down payment, plus 3 monthly payments of $112.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.
††On approved credit. $22.50 down payment, plus 19 monthly payments of $22.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.
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At the bottom of the T-Mobile page. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-HD2
So is that the contract or non contract price?

no way
is this officail if it is then wow was expecting a bigger price, tmobile is making a huge step in relasing this, this phone is mine as soon it hit stores

450????? Holy mother of god that's cheap
I thought 530 for the nexus one was an amazing deal. You bet your sweet ass I'll be at the local T-mobile store on the release day.
It was between the nexus one and the HD2, but I think saving 80 bucks will be a better bet. Even though it probably won't get wp7, I'll be happy with it.

We will find out for sure at MIX
http :// www .engadget.com/2010/03/01/microsoft-sending-mixed-signals-on-windows-phone-7-series-upgrad/

all we need now is the official releasee!!!
ill buy it as soon as it gets here

Wow I hope those are the prices, depressing that its 100 cheaper than my Fuse and my S730 lol...

Damn good price.

Hmmm decisions decisions.
Was about to get the euro version unbranded for 599 shipped.
and now tmobiles unsubsidized price is rumored at 450. so technically 480ish after my state taxes.
What do you guys think? Pay 120 more for unbranded + euro/asia 3g? or get the unsubsidized for 480 and unlock it later.
I am on tmobile us right now and don't plan on getting 3g on my plan anyways. and I am traveling abroad to asia for a year but I might not even subscribe to a 3g plan (maybe just edge) while im over there.
You guys think tmobile version would be any different or more difficult to flash roms?

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You guys think tmobile version would be any different or more difficult to flash roms?
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The US T-Mobile version has more ROM. Just get it to make the other countries jealous.

Could it be that they were able to keep the price down because they were able to include the Blockbuster app?

Stilts said:
Could it be that they were able to keep the price down because they were able to include the Blockbuster app?
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The price could be low because they want to get a lot of them out.. due to NO WP7 upgrade or because it WILL be WP7 upgrade.
Or maybe just because it's a few months ago now and they feel bad for us..

could the TMo version work outside the US?

This is fantastic news. Now i can upgrade from my htc x7501

so when is the officail relaease date then i have heard the 12th, the 14th, and the 24th??? anyone with any officail news on a release date???

3G Band Frequency
Hey guys, do we know what 3G band frequencies the T-mobile version will have?
I know that T-mobile uses 1700Mhz for 3G... do we know if this version will have other bands like 850Mhz....
I live in Canada and I do plan to buy the HD2 in near future, in Canada in order to get 3G you need either 850Mhz, 1700Mhz or 1900Mhz frequency band enabled phone.
I would like to buy a phone that can do 3G, rather than the Europe version. If the price of this phone is actually $449, then I will most probably buy this one.
Does anyone know how you can buy this phone from Canada, I mean for this price? I know some websites that sell unlocked phones but the prices are usually very high.
Thank You

Hmmm, i coulda swore i read somewhere that tmobile uses the 1700 band for 3G

yeah tmobile uses 1700/2100 for 3g in the US.
it will not have the 850 or 1900 bands.

From one Roger user to another...The answer is NO, t-mobile 3G model will not work on Rogers/Fido network or the new Bell/Telus HSPA network. The T-Mobile phone will only be useful if you are on WindMobile as they use the same 3G frequency as T-Mobile.
The Europe version T8585 will give yah Edge speeds while the T9193(Telstra) will give yah 3G speeds here in Canada.
Hope that helps to clear the confusion.
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Hey guys, do we know what 3G band frequencies the T-mobile version will have?
I know that T-mobile uses 1900Mhz for 3G... do we know if this version will have other bands like 850Mhz....
I live in Canada and I do plan to buy the HD2 in near future, in Canada in order to get 3G you need either 850Mhz, 1700Mhz or 1900Mhz frequency band enabled phone.
I would like to buy a phone that can do 3G, rather than the Europe version. If the price of this phone is actually $449, then I will most probably buy this one.
Does anyone know how you can buy this phone from Canada, I mean for this price? I know some websites that sell unlocked phones but the prices are usually very high.
Thank You
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Has anybody seen it in store yet? Perhaps in the hands of a sales rep? I've heard reports that they're doing training for it this week.

Europe : Paid 570 euro...
last news : no upgrade to Windows 7
no flash player 10 for windows 6.5 in future.
even would't pay 300 euro for this device !!!

[Q] So confused with all the variants

Hi, I've been a S4 user and a very intrigued reader on this website. XDA has taught me many great things about my Sprint S4. I'm now ready to make the leap to the Note 4 and I'm so confused with all of the different models available.
Here's what I want the phone to do:
- I live in the US, and I would like to set up the phone on the Straight Talk or AT&T network and I obviously want to take advantage of the fastest speeds Straight Talk/AT&T offers.
- I am traveling to England in the Summer for a month and I would like the phone to work on one of their networks. (I would like to have 4G, but if 3G is the only compatible band than that's fine, as long as I'm getting some sort of data).
- I travel to Canada on a monthly basis and I would like my Note 4 to be able to run on the Rogers Network and utilize the fast speeds Rogers offers.
Basically, which Note 4 model will satisfy my needs? I just want to take advantage of the fastest bands available in these places. I've been leaning towards the N910H because my understanding is that it is compatible with all of my above requirements. Is this true? If not, which model should I be look at?
Thank you!

stevenrp said:
Hi, I've been a S4 user and a very intrigued reader on this website. XDA has taught me many great things about my Sprint S4. I'm now ready to make the leap to the Note 4 and I'm so confused with all of the different models available.
Here's what I want the phone to do:
- I live in the US, and I would like to set up the phone on the Straight Talk or AT&T network and I obviously want to take advantage of the fastest speeds Straight Talk/AT&T offers.
- I am traveling to England in the Summer for a month and I would like the phone to work on one of their networks. (I would like to have 4G, but if 3G is the only compatible band than that's fine, as long as I'm getting some sort of data).
- I travel to Canada on a monthly basis and I would like my Note 4 to be able to run on the Rogers Network and utilize the fast speeds Rogers offers.
Basically, which Note 4 model will satisfy my needs? I just want to take advantage of the fastest bands available in these places. I've been leaning towards the N910H because my understanding is that it is compatible with all of my above requirements. Is this true? If not, which model should I be look at?
Thank you!
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I can't say for certain about Rogers Canada, but the US T-mobile variant- SM-910T- is what I have, and you should look into it. Maybe someone with Rogers can chime in about that.
It's 100% compatible with AT&T's fastest LTE bands and most 4G GSM bands used in Europe. It has an unlocked bootloader for easy rooting/ROM-flashing. There is an awesome XDA section devoted to it with some great ROMs and other tweaks. Of course, the major benefit is that if you stroll into a T-mobile store any buy one, it will have a warranty and service options if something were to possibly be wrong with it. Now, you'll need to get the phone SIM-unlocked either through T-mobile directly or an online sim-unlocking service (~ $20-30)
If you wanna spend less in the States, the 910T sells on craigslist, swappa, ebay, etc in pretty large numbers and it's very easy to obtain one in mint condition for a lot less than retail. Obviously, make sure that the device has a good IMEI through swappa.com before buying it used.
I find that lots of people buy the Note 4 and decide to sell it after a while- either they prefer something smaller, or an iPhone, or any number of other reasons like wanting extra cash, but there's tons of em on craigslist here in Chicago.
I bought a Sprint Note 4 in perfect condition from a guy for $350 the other week. Not saying you will necessarily have that type of luck, but just something to ponder.

i use 910U on rogers and AT&T gophone. also used it in the UK, most of europe and asia. this is an exynos taiwan variant with LTE. may not give you the fastest speeds everywhere but its awesome.

In the UK we get the Snapdragon 910F, but the 910H looks good according to the bands I've seen online (I don't know if they're correct mind!)
In the UK different networks use different bands (900, 1800, 2100, etc) for 3G; with some of the bands being shared amongst companies these days. Ideally you want a device that supports 900Mhz UTMS, and the 910H supports the band. The 900Mhz band has better indoor coverage than the higher frequencies as well.
Again 4G is on different bands depending on your provider, but the networks share most of the spectrum at the moment to reduce costs. I believe 4G is on 800, 1800, and 2600Mhz
i use 910U on rogers and AT&T gophone. also used it in the UK, most of europe and asia. this is an exynos taiwan variant with LTE. may not give you the fastest speeds everywhere but its awesome.
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IDK about LTE, but phones for China/HK will work on our 3G networks. I've tried a few 3G iphone knockoffs and had no issues.

Can I use the USA version in the UK?

Hi guys. I think I have my heart set on the 6P (over the 5X). I can get my hands on one from the States but I live in the UK. Will I have any usability issues at all? I did see a thread that listed the connectivity channels and the USA version has less channels on LTE and UMTS than the rest of the world version; will this affect me using it in the UK?
Is there anything else I should be aware of when getting a phone from the USA but living in and using it only in the UK?
Thanks.

Pretty much the only issue is the reduced signal you'll get in the UK, since some of the bands and frequencies that UK carriers use (especially 4G bands like band 20, which is what Three use). This will prevent you from getting signal in places and give you reduced data speeds where the band that the carrier is using is unavailable on your phone. It's best to check what carrier you'll be using the 6P with in the UK, and go to GSMArena to check which one's you won't have.
I'd still recommend buying one from the UK though. The price here isn't far off the price in the US including tax.

usaff22 said:
Pretty much the only issue is the reduced signal you'll get in the UK, since some of the bands and frequencies that UK carriers use (especially 4G bands like band 20, which is what Three use). This will prevent you from getting signal in places and give you reduced data speeds where the band that the carrier is using is unavailable on your phone. It's best to check what carrier you'll be using the 6P with in the UK, and go to GSMArena to check which one's you won't have.
I'd still recommend buying one from the UK though. The price here isn't far off the price in the US including tax.
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I'm with Three but can't find specifics on what channels/bands they use. Also so the $499 price tag for the 32GB is not including tax? How much is tax? $499 in real money is only £325, a saving of £124 compared to the UK price of £449.
Thanks.

Lettuce! said:
I'm with Three but can't find specifics on what channels/bands they use. Also so the $499 price tag for the 32GB is not including tax? How much is tax? $499 in real money is only £325, a saving of £124 compared to the UK price of £449.
Thanks.
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I'm also with Three, and here I found out that Three use bands 3 and 20. Band 3 (1800MHz) is supported on the North American version, but not band 20 whereas both are supported on the Global model. It's also worth noting that Band 20 will be used for VoLTE on the Three network (800MHz, band 20). Also, 3G/HSDPA/HSPA+ are supported in both versions of the Nexus 6P, so if you stay on Three you'll get full 3G coverage from whichever you choose.
Tax depends on the state you're buying it from - I've seen screenshots of Google Play orders with tax being $80 or so., but it could rise or fall in your case. It'll still be cheaper over in the US, but the question is whether you'll be willing to pay the difference for full support of European bands.
Keep in mind warranty support may also be only local - I'm not sure about the specifics of this, but you might have to phone Huawei or Google to ask if their warranty is global. Another thing to expect is that where you choose to buy it will likely affect resale value in the future, depending on where you sell it.
I just ended up buying the phone from the Google Store here in the UK, though I considered using a shipping service.

Heed help with buying snapdragon s7 edge.

Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.

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Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.
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None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.

Tectas said:
None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.
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I saw people importing note 4 sm-910c to USA because its compatible with US lte frequences Same model sold in Russia. I think device itself can support this frequnces though they are not used there.

I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.

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I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.
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Good point. I bother buying snapdragon mostly because of lower TDP and better 4g reception in past models. If exynos become equal in this areas i see no point in importing. And i dont wanna wait long cause if i preorder before 18 march i will get free gear vr though i dont need it xD

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Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.

TANKRED_ENDURES said:
Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.
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Yes, that's why I've removed the post, mixed the numbering, sorry.
But if you take a look, at least here aren't any of those bands supported at the U.S. variants.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180

But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?

TANKRED_ENDURES said:
But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?
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Would be the first time I hear something like the browser replaced by a carrier, but maybe possible, in common they just add stuff though and make small changes (modem, bootscreen,...). And yes, carrier devices in common get updates later, because the carriers have to incorporate their changes (which can be a few days to months, depends on the carrier), but at the european variants we're lucky with stock roms at least (or at least have been). In most cases you simply can flash a unbranded rom there through odin without second thought.

Those of you on T-Mobile with Exynos phones, how are the speeds and coverage?

I'm really tempted to return my SD S8 and get an Exynos.
I had an Exynos S7 before and signal coverage was absolute **** in my area. Even though all 3 T-Mobile bands were supported, it was just ****. The speeds were **** and the experience was ****.
It's a lot better on my T-Mobile S8 but that flashing itch is still there, I don't want this locked bootloader.
Has the Exynos S8 improved any?

Interceptor777 said:
I'm really tempted to return my SD S8 and get an Exynos.
I had an Exynos S7 before and signal coverage was absolute **** in my area. Even though all 3 T-Mobile bands were supported, it was just ****. The speeds were **** and the experience was ****.
It's a lot better on my T-Mobile S8 but that flashing itch is still there, I don't want this locked bootloader.
Has the Exynos S8 improved any?
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Bands vary by region. The UK and I'm guessing EU versions don't support Band 12 which is T-Mobile's low frequency bands. Low frequency helps with distance and obstructions. That would explain why you got ***** performance. You need an Exynos device with band 12 if one exists.
In terms of carrier vs. Exynos my UK S8 gets better LTE speeds than the AT&T branded S8 I was using on their network for two weeks before its UK replacement arrived. The only AT&T band the EU phones don't have is band 30 which is high frequency and not widely deployed so not as necessary as band 12 on T-Mobile.

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Bands vary by region. The UK and I'm guessing EU versions don't support Band 12 which is T-Mobile's low frequency bands. Low frequency helps with distance and obstructions. That would explain why you got ***** performance. You need an Exynos device with band 12 if one exists.
In terms of carrier vs. Exynos my UK S8 gets better LTE speeds than the AT&T branded S8 I was using on their network for two weeks before its UK replacement arrived. The only AT&T band the EU phones don't have is band 30 which is high frequency and not widely deployed so not as necessary as band 12 on T-Mobile.
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I had all the bands that T-Mobile needed. 2, 4 and 12 and were all functioning. Speeds and signal were still ****. I just want to know if anyone is having issues with the S8.

Interceptor777 said:
I had all the bands that T-Mobile needed. 2, 4 and 12 and were all functioning. Speeds and signal were still ****. I just want to know if anyone is having issues with the S8.
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Having the 950FD on T-mobile and not noticing any issues. The only issue I've encountered is mms while roaming but that's because no Wi-Fi calling.

TehPirate_ said:
Having the 950FD on T-mobile and not noticing any issues. The only issue I've encountered is mms while roaming but that's because no Wi-Fi calling.
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Are you getting band 12 with t-mobile?
Where did you purchase your 950fd from and what region is it?
Thanks

talroot said:
Are you getting band 12 with t-mobile?
Where did you purchase your 950fd from and what region is it?
Thanks
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I have all T-mobiles bands, including 12 and 66.
I purchased it from an eBay seller and country of origin is Singapore.

TehPirate_ said:
I have all T-mobiles bands, including 12 and 66.
I purchased it from an eBay seller and country of origin is Singapore.
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Which seller please, if you don't mind me asking.

talroot said:
Which seller please, if you don't mind me asking.
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never-msrp. They strive for 5 star rating and go above and beyond to help you the best they can.

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never-msrp. They strive for 5 star rating and go above and beyond to help you the best they can.
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Thank you.
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Is it the dual sim exynos model?

Is it possible to install Tmobile Rom on Exynos S8???
I need WiFi Calling but want to root. My snapdragon doesn't have root and who knows when it will come.

bighit101 said:
Is it possible to install Tmobile Rom on Exynos S8???
I need WiFi Calling but want to root. My snapdragon doesn't have root and who knows when it will come.
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You can't install a snapdragon based Rom on an exynos based phone. You can flash a CSC that enables Wi-Fi calling in the exynos phone with root. Search the forums, there's been a couple posts about it for the S8