Need help: How to Disable Facial Recognition via MDM/script - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

We all know this can be fooled with a picture... From the corporate side, I'm looking for a way to disable face recognition through a script we can push out from our mobile device management infrastructure.
I don't have an S8 or S8+ to dig into. I'd like to know if someone can do a little digging on their device and let me know if this is something that's possible and what I need to do to disable the facial recognition feature.
Thanks!

jeredh said:
We all know this can be fooled with a picture... From the corporate side, I'm looking for a way to disable face recognition through a script we can push out from our mobile device management infrastructure.
I don't have an S8 or S8+ to dig into. I'd like to know if someone can do a little digging on their device and let me know if this is something that's possible and what I need to do to disable the facial recognition feature.
Thanks!
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You could simply not use it, by going to settings under the security tab you can choose not to use Face recognition. If in doubt you can simply use the Iris Scanner, which i can guarantee that no one is going to fool that. Also the new update we've got, using a picture to unlock the phone is not as easy but then again, you could simply choose not to use it or you can choose to use Iris Scanner or disable all of them together and use your fingerprint. Face Recognition is not mandatory and is disabled by default unless you choose to enable it.

eniorodriig said:
You could simply not use it, by going to settings under the security tab you can choose not to use Face recognition. If in doubt you can simply use the Iris Scanner, which i can guarantee that no one is going to fool that. Also the new update we've got, using a picture to unlock the phone is not as easy but then again, you could simply choose not to use it or you can choose to use Iris Scanner or disable all of them together and use your fingerprint. Face Recognition is not mandatory and is disabled by default unless you choose to enable it.
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You completely missed the point. I never said anything about me using the feature. I want to block it company wide so people who are are ignorant of the issues with face recognition cannot use it and pose a security risk.

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Hi @jeredh,
Your thread in "Themes, Apps, and Mods" quoted below, is not in the correct section. So, you can continue the discussion in the current thread (Q&A).
jeredh said:
I started a thread in Q&A several days ago, but I think it was in the wrong forum and should be here instead.
I'm trying to come up with a script that I can use to push out to all S8/S8+ devices in our corporate environment via MDM that will disable only the facial recognition part of smartlock. Unfortunately I do not have access to a S8/S8+ to dig into. Would anyone be willing to lend a hand on this?
Thanks in advance.
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I had to remove the newer thread from the "Themes, Apps, and Mods" section.
Thanks for your understanding.
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jeredh said:
We all know this can be fooled with a picture... From the corporate side, I'm looking for a way to disable face recognition through a script we can push out from our mobile device management infrastructure.
I don't have an S8 or S8+ to dig into. I'd like to know if someone can do a little digging on their device and let me know if this is something that's possible and what I need to do to disable the facial recognition feature.
Thanks!
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MAybe try calling Samsung and see?
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/discover/galaxy-s8-for-enterprise/
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is there a quick way to password protect your ppc?

Hello,
Is there a shortcut or a link I can click on the ppc to make to password protect it?
I have it where it will turn on after 90 minutes, but not everytime. and I'd like a way to just click on a link, and the password thing is protected.
Any ideas or suggestions?
if you set it to 0 minutes it will lock when the ppc goes to suspend mode; the downside of course is you have to unlock everytime you power back on.
I'm also interested in something that enables the password screen via software/button. I use the 0 minutes rule but you have to suspend the device which breaks any activesync connection and the whole process starts again when you power on. A simple little app that enables the password screen the same as at power on would be great.
Maybe TranCreative Nice Start would help
you may want to take a look at psshutxp also http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/psshutxp.shtml
Thanks guys, but neither is what I'm looking for. I don't want a third party security product and I don't want anything that shuts the device down, just a tiny app. that triggers the in-built password screen so I can assign it to a button or icon.
Ah well, have to keep looking.
I use Omega 1-pass, its a great password app (currently the best one for magician I think)
Also, it wont cost you a cent if you search around for the crackz.
mtbsoft said:
I don't want a third party security product ... just a tiny app. that triggers the in-built password screen
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mtbsoft said:
mtbsoft said:
I don't want a third party security product ... just a tiny app. that triggers the in-built password screen
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I was trying to help others also by the way.. (not just you)
Anyways, the built-in password in PPC is terrible.. buttons are too small and basically its too basic. Why dont you want a third party app? A "tiny app" is a third party app (LOL)
Give 1-Pass ago.. believe me its one of the app that you'll sacrifice some space for it (around 500KB or less I think). Perfect sized buttons, no excess features etc..
If you do try it.. let others know how you get on.
If you afraid/alergic to use 3rd party software just X-backup first your ppc, install the software >> not satisfied >> restore to get the same setting/database
1-PASS IS A WONDER
hi all,
i am using 1-pass and the software is in fact wonderful... lets u assign a hardware button for password access and moreover allows flexibility!
and for the problem with which the topic was started /.... just set the time when u want 1-pass activated when the device is not used and ur work is done!
Nutdhanai said:
Anyways, the built-in password in PPC is terrible.. buttons are too small and basically its too basic. Why dont you want a third party app? A "tiny app" is a third party app
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nsriza said:
If you afraid/alergic to use 3rd party software
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I'm not "afraid/alergic" to use third-party products - I have over 90 applications & games installed, ALL legit. by the way, no cracks - I review the stuff as well as use it.
I simply don't want/need anything more than the basic PIN mechanism which the device already provides. Besides which, I wish it to be something my wife (a technophobic!) can use easily, hence the PIN approach.
I've looked at many security packages and either dislike the way they work or find them to be complete overkill. I'm not looking to bullet proof the device just provide simple privacy protection when it's on the desk, hence I just want a basic trigger mechanism for the in-built password screen, nothing more.
BTW I find the 1-pass claim of...
In tests, entering a 4 digit password using the standard password program took 7 seconds.
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...laughable, what were they using to enter it? A blind gorilla? I have no problem entering the four digit pin in two seconds, including powering the device on with the same hand!
mtbsoft,
try contacting Microsoft, see if they can patch the built-in password protection for you
MTBSOFT seems to be in airs!
the subject sums up all!
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studdocs said:
the subject sums up all!
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It might... if it made sense!
studdocs said:
try the attachment! .cab file and works like magic!
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You realise that, by posting bootleg software like this, you are risking the actual owners of this commercial software taking action against the site? You might want to consider removing it for the sake of the other site users.
@mtbsoft back on topic (well hopefully): I was using a set of shortcuts that would automatically send you to the Settings Menu used the Bluetooth one. Anyway when I tapped it, I went straight to the Bluetooth App. Maybe there is one for the Password Application, found it over at brighthand... here is the link for the thread. http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79526
also am not sure but when I used to use OmegaOne's BattpackPro I remember that it had a 'key' icon/link (in Program Bar) maybe this would lock the device as well so? if you have it on your device maybe you can check this feature.
anyway, still thinking of other ways to lock the device without power off (and hopefully additional apps) also...
bnycastro said:
anyway, still thinking of other ways to lock the device without power off (and hopefully additional apps) also...
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Hi mate,
Thanks for the thread, I'll take a look and see if there's anything there of use to me. I have found a crude sort-of way to give some protection - the screensaver from PHM Tools. When you run it, it simply powers off the screen and doesn't come back on until you press the action button (nav-pad centre), so the device appears to be turned off. If someone then tries to turn it on with the power button it actually turns off and engages the lock!
The disadvantage is that other buttons are actually still enabled and functional when the screen is off so someone could trigger applications or even make a call with two phone button presses, but it's a start. Thanks again for the helpful reply.
mtbsoft said:
bnycastro said:
anyway, still thinking of other ways to lock the device without power off (and hopefully additional apps) also...
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Hi mate,
Thanks for the thread, I'll take a look and see if there's anything there of use to me. I have found a crude sort-of way to give some protection - the screensaver from PHM Tools. When you run it, it simply powers off the screen and doesn't come back on until you press the action button (nav-pad centre), so the device appears to be turned off. If someone then tries to turn it on with the power button it actually turn off and engages the lock!
The disadvantage is that other buttons are actually still enabled and functional when the screen is off so someone could trigger applications or even make a call with two phone button presses, but it's a start. Thanks again for the helpful reply.
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I dont understand?? Why would you go through all the trouble when there is a software readily available to do the job that you need?
How little is that tiny app you are looking for?? Why doesn't 1-Pass cut it for you? Please share.. the ppl that are using might want to know if there is a flaw in it or some information that you might know..?
If you dont want 3rd party app then why are you using PHM tools??
i summed up the reason and will provide one more....
mtbsoft works for a company which competes with 1-pass!
HA HA HA ....
Nutdhanai said:
Why doesn't 1-Pass cut it for you? Please share.. the ppl that are using might want to know if there is a flaw in it or some information that you might know..?
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If you dont want 3rd party app then why are you using PHM tools??
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Did you actually RTFA or just skim over it? Try again...
mtbsoft said:
I don't want a third party security product
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...and...
mtbsoft said:
I have over 90 applications & games installed.
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All of which I use and need (excluding the games), including many of the features of PHM. I don't want and don't need a third party security product. All was looking for was a tiny little exe which wraps up the single API call (probably) to a DLL which triggers the password lock screen - I don't even want it to be memory resident.
mtbsoft said:
I simply don't want/need anything more than the basic PIN mechanism which the device already provides.
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Memory is a consideration because of the number of applications which have to be installed in Main Memory as opposed to SD. Why should I waste memory for something which is essentially built-in?
mtbsoft said:
I've looked at many security packages and either dislike the way they work or find them to be complete overkill.
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Take 1-pass - it claims...
Password program you will actually use! - I use the built in!
Fastest ever password entry using innovative hard key password feature - don't need.
Shows essential information - so does the basic "my info" screen
Automatically locks when left unattended - don't want, would find it more annoying
Lock your device on demand - woohoo!
Keylock - just like on your mobile phone - don't need, if the password is engaged!
2 types of password entry - don't want
Use your own picture in the background - don't want
Ideal for corporate deployment - irrelevant for an individual
Supports landscape (320x240) - not on my device since it doesn't
So you see, I'm not knocking the product (even though some of the claims on the website are laughable, misleading or just plain wrong), it simply isn't what I want, it's full of features that I don't want or need and I wouldn't waste USD$20 buying all that for just the one feature I'm interested in. I also dislike the way some of its features require you to buy other products too.
The same applies to most of the products I've looked at - they're all crammed full of stuff that is totally useless to me.

ThrottleLock 0.3c security flaw

I loaded ThrottleLock 0.3c onto my Mogul today (since s2U2 is way to buggy right now on it) and I really like the concept and idea.
But I found a flaw in the application, the application name and the developer's name is in the lower left corner of the application when the lock is engaged.
I'm not against giving the developer credit, it is a VERY good app, but this flaw seems to defeat the point of having a challenge lock on your phone.
Since anybody can find/steal my phone, know what application is locking it (since its on the lock app) & who made it, run a Google search, easily end up on this forum or emailing the developer, and pretend to be the legit owner of a phone who simply forgot how his/her lock pattern.
Then all the nice, helpful, and trusting people here would tell them how to reset the pattern using a usb connector and a computer.
Tenchi4U said:
I loaded ThrottleLock 0.3c onto my Mogul today (since s2U2 is way to buggy right now on it) and I really like the concept and idea.
But I found a flaw in the application, the application name and the developer's name is in the lower left corner of the application when the lock is engaged.
I'm not against giving the developer credit, it is a VERY good app, but this flaw seems to defeat the point of having a challenge lock on your phone.
Since anybody can find/steal my phone, know what application is locking it (since its on the lock app) & who made it, run a Google search, easily end up on this forum or emailing the developer, and pretend to be the legit owner of a phone who simply forgot how his/her lock pattern.
Then all the nice, helpful, and trusting people here would tell them how to reset the pattern using a usb connector and a computer.
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I don't really think the concept is to keep people out of the phone. I think it is to keep the buttons from not getting pressed. I don't think its a smart idea to bank your protection on a series of dots, or "slide to unlock" where there might be a few people in my office baffled, by "slide to unlock" it just does not seem like it will keep people out.
I think the reasoning for branding the software is because there are a lot of bad people out there that are trying to sell our awesome devs software. They need to mark it, we have almost lost many programs because of this data theft.
"security trough obscurity" is a very bad method. Throttle lock should be safe even if you know the program and if not, hiding the program name isn't the right method to get it safer
I'd suggest using some other locking program if your worried about security. Like the default windows pin one. Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think throttle lock was made to secure the device but more for a new, more interactive/user friendly way to have a keyguard.
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[Q] Deactivate the Camera

Hi all,
Firstly, apologies if this has been covered before, I have had a search but not been able to find an answer yet.
Is there a way to temporarily disable the camera (photo + video) function of the Wildfire? The reason being that I am going to be temporarily working in an area where cameras are banned. I am trying to find an alternative to having the camera drilled at the security entrance.
Does anyone know if it is possible?
Cheers,
I dont think there is. Besides, its pointless if you look at it. You show the security the disabled camera, enter the premises, and activate it again. Ofcourse, this is if the security believes that the camera is disabled, which they wont.
However, I think you can root the phone, take a nandroid backup, and, enter /system and mess around with the camera files (camera.apk), due to which even if you start the camera app, it wont start. However, the question remains whether the security will accept this or not. (Because even they would know a software hack is undoable)
IMV, it would probably be better to get a cheap phone for work, if only phone calls and SMS'es are your need at work.
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I dont think there is. Besides, its pointless if you look at it. You show the security the disabled camera, enter the premises, and activate it again. Ofcourse, this is if the security believes that the camera is disabled, which they wont.
However, I think you can root the phone, take a nandroid backup, and, enter /system and mess around with the camera files (camera.apk), due to which even if you start the camera app, it wont start. However, the question remains whether the security will accept this or not. (Because even they would know a software hack is undoable)
IMV, it would probably be better to get a cheap phone for work, if only phone calls and SMS'es are your need at work.
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Thanks for the advice.
Let me add, this isn't the only line of defence in satisfying the security people, but I would rather keep the discussion the the software part rather than the ins and outs of the policy and if it would satisfy. It is antiquated and largely pointless policy for the modern world. If someone wants to use a camera as a tool for espionage, there are much better & subtler things than using a smart-phone camera.
From reading round various internet forums, this question always seems to generate more discussion on the policy than the actual deactivation.
alongwor said:
It is antiquated and largely pointless policy for the modern world. If someone wants to use a camera as a tool for espionage, there are much better & subtler things than using a smart-phone camera.
From reading round various internet forums, this question always seems to generate more discussion on the policy than the actual deactivation.
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True. Anyhow, not much you can do here, unfortunately. (Both in terms of policy and temp disabling the cam)
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Sort of gutting the phone (dont you will be responsible and will probibly brick the phone) you would be better off getting a cheap dumbphone
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Fingerprint unlock automation help

Hi
I would like to disable my finger print lock and enable pattern lock from midnight till morning. I want this to happen automatically. I use s7 edge. Can someone help me do this.
Divorce?
I don't know if that is possible. The easiest way I know to accomplish what you are asking would be for you to restart your phone as you are going to bed and not unlocking it until you get up in the morning. The first time you unlock the phone it won't allow you to use your fingerprint, only your alternate method.
Outbreak444 said:
I don't know if that is possible. The easiest way I know to accomplish what you are asking would be for you to restart your phone as you are going to bed and not unlocking it until you get up in the morning. The first time you unlock the phone it won't allow you to use your fingerprint, only your alternate method.
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Yeah. U r right. But its easy to forget. So need an automated thing.
Try Tasker from the app store. There's so much you can customize from using that app. I don't use it nor do I know how to set it up but I have read a lot about it and know a lot of people would recommend that.
Where can I find help for tasker programming..
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A phone is like a PC. And always been rebooting for optimized performance.
So what did Samsung do, They added in a feature for sceduled restarts.
This my friend sounds like your perfect option, set the phone to reboot every day before you go to sleep. And to unlock the device you are required to input the pin on first boot.
Settings -> Backup and Reset -> Auto Restart
Other than this, i would be suggesting something like Tasker that has alot of control in Automating tasks like MAYBE changing your Login method.
But i would imagine a change of this level requires a user input (Or it would be security concern)
If this is not a good enough option for you, PM me, Tell me what and why you are doing it. And i can come up with a few different solutions.
I have a guess to why you are doing what you are doing, but i aint explaining multiple possibility's on a hunch.
i.e. i have application hide from my App Drawer and require a password to open them.
as an additional safety method. am always passing my phone around and people cannot help but open up your apps like Snapchat. So yes HIDDEN from all.
Tasker will require the Secure Settings plug-in (paid version) and root access to be able to change pattern lock settings.

Clip Tray security concern, anybody else?

Ok after scouring the usual places finally XDA forums had the solution to clear the clip tray's contents which I will provide here for my fellow V20 users. This is the most direct way without something else capturing info while you do it.
1. Shut off phone
2. Restart, login, patiently wait for stabilation
3. Pull up messaging app (built in text)
4. Long press in a text entry field
5. Select Clip Tray
6. Click Garbage Can
7. Either click select all or pick your choices
8. Confirm deletion
Ok great you AND I can now do this. How do you stop the app. Clearly it can be done, but only rooted devices. Why would you want to? No, it's not hardcore paranoia... It's an issue if you use LassPass or other vault and an app prevents overlay. The only way to get a generated password from it to the target app is by pasting it and this Clip Tray retains. This forces cleaning it out each and every password change (in theory) and repeating the above steps.
This um concerns me. Yes I love the ability to recut and repaste like the next human, but password retention isn't one of my common repeat pastes. So the obvious solution is use another app? Right? But you can't kill this without rooting... Um... Nobody else find this a problem or is this just me?!? Sorry if sarcasm is not appreciated. I will edit if offensive, let me know. I have seen other posts on XDA and I guess the negativity rubbed off.
I haven't tested yet with the LGV20, but LastPass cleared it on the LGV10 when I used it... sounds like it might be easier to get LastPass to look into this than LG

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