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I mean the description "For all your questions" pretty much covers anything that would be asked anywhere else? Just sayin.
For instance. "What screen do I have, Epson or Novatek?". It is a question but some one would give me a tip on how to figure it out.
Yea they're pretty sub-forum happy here.
i like the way it is...
i like it i would rather go to q & a for my questions than weed through answers to questions that are buried beneath topics like 'cool tricks' or 'would you rather the droid x' ...i like it for those reasons.
I think of it this way, Q&A is just that, general is more like an off topic forum just for us
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I mean the description "For all your questions" pretty much covers anything that would be asked anywhere else? Just sayin.
For instance. "What screen do I have, Epson or Novatek?". It is a question but some one would give me a tip on how to figure it out.
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Shouldn't this post go in the Q&A forum??? It IS a quesiton!
If everyone used it properly and only asked questions in the Q&A section then it would be fine.
But since the reality is different it just makes it more work for everyone to check both sub forums.
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If everyone used it properly and only asked questions in the Q&A section then it would be fine.
But since the reality is different it just makes it more work for everyone to check both sub forums.
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True, I'm amazed so many people are allergic to logic.
I am a programmer and for the masses I live by the KISS rule. Not the disco rock band, the Keep It Simple Stupid rule. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle
No, what is odd to me is that you knew there was a General and a Question forum, so ignorance can't be the excuse, and you STILL posted a question in the General forum.
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No, what is odd to me is that you knew there was a General and a Question forum, so ignorance can't be the excuse, and you STILL posted a question in the General forum.
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Except that I think the OP was more of a Statement formed as an ironic question.
Well the general forum has pretty much turned into crap. So the q/a forum is a place to go to actually help people without the general forum's level of retardation.
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True, I'm amazed so many people are allergic to logic.
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After working retail so long, my amazement at that has long died XD
What is the reason for the multuple thread closings in this forum lately.
I was under the impression that a "forum" was a place for open discussion and opinion.
It seems that we now have moderators among us that close threads based on their opinion rather than the relevance of the discussion contained within them.
There are both positive and negative reactions to the X10 and its progression or lack thereof.
These posts are in the general section of the respective forum and should be left open for contribution.
I am not condonig flaming or childish rants but open and intelligent discussion makes good reading.
If moderators are intent on cleaning up the forum, then archiving old threads should be the priority.
Moderator, please close this thread...
I don't know why the mods closed some threads based on discussion of 2.1 features, rumours etc, or why they banned iead1, lonelee and fm1776 (well... not really fm1776)
But I do agree with them closing threads that are started by people who don't bother to search and repeatedly ask the same question over and over again, like:
- When are we getting 2.1
- Is there Multitouch in 2.1
- How do i root my phone
- I'm so sick of my x10
- I sold my x10, bye forum (this is the one that irritates me the most)
this 2.1 delays make this forum one of most hostile places that I visit regularly. And like almost everyone here, I just visit looking for some info about the upgrades.
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Moderator, please close this thread...
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Ha ah ahahaha ah .. Holy Crap Batman...you K1sr are one terrible dude...
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I am not condonig flaming or childish rants but open and intelligent discussion makes good reading.
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That's the problem, there isn't any "open and intelligent discussion." All I see is "SE Sux," "good bye SE, hello [brand name]" and all the other "emotional" comments rather than facts.
Also the more useless threads like this one remaining open slow the XDA server down.
MOD's please close this thread.
P.S that's what the sticky's are for, but nobody ever reads them.
Q. why do mods close the threads:
A. there are many reasons..
1. New threads are opened even when threads already exist which cater to similar discussions. if a person does a search, i m sure he will find a thread to post his matter in.
2. this is a device forum.. threads opened are sum-times absolutely unrelated to the device. now such threads are breeding grounds for flame wars etc and we dont want such threads.
3. most threads are ending up in flame wars... unable to control such flame wars results in closing/deltion of such threads.
i hope i have answered your questions.
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Looks like a ton of threads just got moved to Q&A -- most of the threads in the last few days, in fact. Can a mod give some guidelines as to what should be in here vs there? I always thought of Q&A as someone having a specific "how do I" question. I see a number of threads that I would think qualify as general discussion moved, such as:
What twitter app do you use and why?
Anyone else bored with their evo now?
pocket BLU app- Controlling PS3 Blu-ray with an EVO
What is sprints stance on locking phones down?
It doesn't really matter, but it seems like there's a lot of overlap between the purpose of the two forums, and I don't know if it makes sense to be slapping people on the wrist this way. Plus the "moved:" headers make the "cleaned up" forum actually look pretty cluttered to my eyes. I didn't personally have any of my threads moved and I'm not all that concerned about it. I just wanted to ask about it as a regular reader and participant in both forums. Just my opinion, but maybe if this many people are having trouble figuring out which section they should post in, maybe that indicates there doesn't need to be a separate "Discussion" and "Q&A" section at all.
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Looks like a ton of threads just got moved to Q&A -- most of the threads in the last few days, in fact. Can a mod give some guidelines as to what should be in here vs there? I always thought of Q&A as someone having a specific "how do I" question. I see a number of threads that I would think qualify as general discussion moved, such as:
What twitter app do you use and why?
Anyone else bored with their evo now?
pocket BLU app- Controlling PS3 Blu-ray with an EVO
What is sprints stance on locking phones down?
It doesn't really matter, but it seems like there's a lot of overlap between the purpose of the two forums, and I don't know if it makes sense to be slapping people on the wrist this way. Plus the "moved:" headers make the "cleaned up" forum actually look pretty cluttered to my eyes. I didn't personally have any of my threads moved and I'm not all that concerned about it. I just wanted to ask about it as a regular reader and participant in both forums. Just my opinion, but maybe if this many people are having trouble figuring out which section they should post in, maybe that indicates there doesn't need to be a separate "Discussion" and "Q&A" section at all.
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I think it's pretty straight forward - does your thread start with a question? It goes in Q&A.
I think most discussions pose a question as well. The examples I linked to were ones where yes, the subject ended in a question mark, but they seemed to me to be questions intended to prompt a discussion, not questions that have a straightforward answer.
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I think it's pretty straight forward - does your thread start with a question? It goes in Q&A.
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correct if it a question please post it in q&a (one is asking a question and would like an answer)
on the OP question about the clutter look of "moved" being everywhere. i put a 2 day redirect on the threads i moved because i moved so many. just in the event an op or member shows up tomorrow going "wtf happened to my favorite thread". after 2 days the redirects will be gone. till then they will just drop down as other unmoved threads are posted in.
on another note. sometimes i over look question threads in the general section due to being busy with other projects or matters. when i feel froggy or get time i like to clean it up a bit (like today). i also move EVO 3D related threads over to the EVO 3D section to clean up a bit.
hope you guys understand im just trying to do some spring cleaning
Toastcfh for MFin' President!
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I think it's pretty straight forward - does your thread start with a question? It goes in Q&A.
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Sorry but that's an awful response, and awfully wrong.
I had a thread moved from Development to Q&A because it had a question in it... unfortunately that question was: here is some app code that isn't working, anyone have feedback/input?
That's about as dev friendly as it gets. I am starting to really dislike the mods around here.
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Sorry but that's an awful response, and awfully wrong.
I had a thread moved from Development to Q&A because it had a question in it... unfortunately that question was: here is some app code that isn't working, anyone have feedback/input?
That's about as dev friendly as it gets. I am starting to really dislike the mods around here.
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Actually, policy is, and has been for a long time, that ANY thread that is a question (even one pertaining specifically to development) belongs in Q&A. It has been discussed MANY times before now.the reality is, it is as simple as dirty said. If you were worried about not getting eyes on your problem, you could send out a few pm's.
Edit: btw, why are you so upset? Your thread wasn't deleted, it was just moved.
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I am starting to really dislike the mods around here.
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IMO..you ought to redirect some of that dislike towards so many jerkface or willfully ignorant members. The ratio of mods:members is laughable at best. These guys and gals have a big job to do and do it for free.
Most of the mods are pretty cool if you just talk to them.
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Actually, policy is, and has been for a long time, that ANY thread that is a question (even one pertaining specifically to development) belongs in Q&A. It has been discussed MANY times before now.the reality is, it is as simple as dirty said. If you were worried about not getting eyes on your problem, you could send out a few pm's.
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Interesting. I will certainly respect the rules, It just seems to me that most Discussions would start with a question...and thus the Q and A forum will now become the default place to discuss things.
It just means that users will need to follow both forums.
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THIS THREAD BELONGS IN Q&A.
I just notified a mod.
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THIS THREAD BELONGS IN Q&A.
I just notified a mod.
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Lmao
But for real tho thanks toastcfh for all you work man I know ain't easy to be a mod I uses to be one in another forum and you can't keep everyone happy is your job !
Anyways I'm happy with the organization
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Incidentally, I meant no disrespect to the mods when I posted this. I don't think toast took any offense, but I certainly don't mean to criticize him or any other mod. toast is awesome.
I still do think the line between a Q&A and a discussion can be thin, and that some of the threads that were moved were closer to a discussion than a Q&A. But it doesn't really matter and I'm not losing any sleep over it tonight.
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I think it's pretty straight forward - does your thread start with a question? It goes in Q&A.
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gotta agree the general section was getting pretty freaking clogged with [Q]
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Sorry but that's an awful response, and awfully wrong.
I had a thread moved from Development to Q&A because it had a question in it... unfortunately that question was: here is some app code that isn't working, anyone have feedback/input?
That's about as dev friendly as it gets. I am starting to really dislike the mods around here.
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want a tissue ?
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Edit: btw, why are you so upset? Your thread wasn't deleted, it was just moved.
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I'm not upset, so much as I am frustrated. Lately, the mods have been spending their time moving posts around and slapping people on the wrist for posting in the wrong area. Meanwhile, they continue to let thousands of "ZOMG! Here's a question that's answered in the sticky's" and "ZOMG! WTF is [Some Term A Google Search Would Answer]?" through every day.
The forum is quickly degrading into a wild wild west and when the Sheriff's DO show up, they chase down jaywalkers instead of bank robbers.
I used to subscribe to the RSS feeds because these forums produced the best content/discoveries/knowledge... now it just produces a jet stream of crap.
I get your frustrations, man, but what did you think was going to happen when 10's of thousands of new members (often people with little tech knowledge, who heard about xda on some gadget site) started showing up? These mods are buried under an avalanche of posts everyday. Toast doing a bit of cleanup to keep things organized on top of actually monitoring the comments for abuse, etc, deserves a round of applause; instead, he gets people *****ing at him because he didn't do it in a way that pleases them. Having things posted in the right section is ultimately just as important as reducing the number of redundant threads, if for no other reason than it will make things easier to search for in the first place and (tada!) reducing the number of redundant threads! Fix the problem, not the symptom.
It is well known that the Fascinate forums have been quiet. Many people have moved on to different phones and forums. In fact, it seemed like the Fascinate forums would wither away.
Then something changed. Enyo came to these forums and reinvigorated them and brought them back to their former glory. Gone were the days of few posts and nothing interesting. Good times were back again. ROMS were released. Lulz were had.
Then the dark clouds of oppression began to gather once more. Forum users complained that other users complained too much. People began to fail to see humor in life and started reporting Enyo's threads. The threads that have given us so much joy and are quite frankly one of the few reasons many of us even come to xda any more have been closed.
So, should xda continue to close Enyo's threads?
No. I enjoy shanangens and asshatery.
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No way his threads take xda to a me level of entertainment with many lols. They are way to much fun. Won't be surprised if this thread gets closed as well
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Keep the threads going! Till the truth comes out. They are very interesting. Maybe he is sincerely trying his best to learn how. The whole problem is, his problem with the truth, if he would have said look I'm learning, i can't make any promises, have patience with me etc. It would be whole different ball game. But hey let him learn.
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I imagine this thread will be closed as well, unfortunately Just ask Old Man James what happened when he petitioned to have the "poll" thread reopened
Has anyone seen John Connor?
This thread isn't concerned with retroactively overturning decisions like that poll was. This thread is taking a poll on the general consensus for prospective policy.
No keep them open! Im finding this stuff to be full of lulz. At first I was a bit uptight about the flaming, but the more enyo posts, the more he brings it on himself. I respect the fact he is putting a effort into bringing the fascinate commmunity more roms, but he could stand to be a bit more tactful with his threads/posts. Then again maybe enyo is a know dev that created another account to mess with us abit...you guys got me thinking now. who is enyo actually...the unsolved mysteries of xda lol.
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This thread isn't concerned with retroactively overturning decisions like that poll was. This thread is taking a poll on the general consensus for prospective policy.
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I can try to create some lulz threads of my own, but I could never hope to attain to Enyo's level of mastery and sheer comedic dominance
Has anyone seen John Connor?
All this thread closing has to be affecting morale. I need him in good spirits so we can get a Honeycome port on our Gameboy Colors.
Enyo is a great developer of roms. What else would 25/16 of Fascinate users use? I look forward to his webOS ROM.
all i can say at this point is that i only closed one of enyo's threads and it was not for my own opinion or any user reports, but enyo himself requested the closing. as the op of that specific thread he was entitled to that, just like any noobs that posts a [Q] thread can demand to have it closed or deleted once they have the answers they wanted or for whatever other reason there might be.
Also, as stated on another thread before, personally, i don't mind a little off-topic posting, fun and general discussion. after all, no tv and no beer make homer something something...
however, one must not forget that xda-dev has 4 million users, one million threads and the reputation of being THE smartphone community, THE go-to forum for news, apps, tweaks, roms and hacks and that is something that should be kept that way. new users should not get the impression that all this is, is flaming, trolling and memes. there are other places on the internet for that. just look at what happened to the comments on engadget, or engadget altogether.
so, to a certain point, you can keep having fun, but before you post, please think about the big picture, whether your post is really necessary and what would happen, if everybody here posted like that and useful information would be buried under tons of crap, what happens to users that need actual help with their semi-broken devices and all they find is lulz.
So, to get back to the question at hand:
- i believe that any thread starter should be entitled to decide, whether or not his/her thread should be closed
- if there are too many reports by other users about a thread getting out of hand, it should not be closed, but the reported posts should be deleted and the users should eventually be infracted. in general, if it was not the op, that was reported, he/she should not suffer for having their thread hijacked
- this thread, as well as the other poll will neither be closed nor deleted YET, as you are free to discuss issues like this, but once these polls had a run of a week or two, there should be enough results in on how the community feels, and i will follow the results. if this turns out to be another troll thread, it will be closed /deleted before that.
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All this thread closing has to be affecting morale. I need him in good spirits so we can get a Honeycome port on our Gameboy Colors.
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Love the sig Skrazz
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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all i can say at this point is that i only closed one of enyo's threads and it was not for my own opinion or any user reports, but enyo himself requested the closing. as the op of that specific thread he was entitled to that, just like any noobs that posts a [Q] thread can demand to have it closed or deleted once they have the answers they wanted or for whatever other reason there might be.
Also, as stated on another thread before, personally, i don't mind a little off-topic posting, fun and general discussion. after all, no tv and no beer make homer something something...
however, one must not forget that xda-dev has 4 million users, one million threads and the reputation of being THE smartphone community, THE go-to forum for news, apps, tweaks, roms and hacks and that is something that should be kept that way. new users should not get the impression that all this is, is flaming, trolling and memes. there are other places on the internet for that. just look at what happened to the comments on engadget, or engadget altogether.
so, to a certain point, you can keep having fun, but before you post, please think about the big picture, whether your post is really necessary and what would happen, if everybody here posted like that and useful information would be buried under tons of crap, what happens to users that need actual help with their semi-broken devices and all they find is lulz.
So, to get back to the question at hand:
- i believe that any thread starter should be entitled to decide, whether or not his/her thread should be closed
- if there are too many reports by other users about a thread getting out of hand, it should not be closed, but the reported posts should be deleted and the users should eventually be infracted. in general, if it was not the op, that was reported, he/she should not suffer for having their thread hijacked
- this thread, as well as the other poll will neither be closed nor deleted YET, as you are free to discuss issues like this, but once these polls had a run of a week or two, there should be enough results in on how the community feels, and i will follow the results. if this turns out to be another troll thread, it will be closed /deleted before that.
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I agree with you man... specially the last part that i bolded and underlined...
but it turns out most/all of these threads turn into people trolling or flaming. it is really really starting to get out of hand and i am getting tired of deleting posts by the tens. and then coming back to the same thread 2 hours later to clean out more junk posts....
regarding ENYO's threads. Him and i have traded pm's and we have agreed to leave the threads closed until he can post some evidence or links regarding his work. If i just reopen them, you trolls and flamers are just gonna start up again, so his threads remain closed until then.
@blobloblaw1 I don't appreciate you opening threads regarding this topic. i know you can discuss this and you aren't breaking any rules but i think you know this is just gonna start more flaming and ultimatly end up in a flame war.
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@blobloblaw1 I don't appreciate you opening threads regarding this topic. i know you can discuss this and you aren't breaking any rules but i think you know this is just gonna start more flaming and ultimatly end up in a flame war.
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I'd prefer to have the conversation and hope that we are all mature enough to handle it rather than stifle discussion because we fear that something annoying might happen. Regardless, discussion on the issue will happen and if that discussion isn't here, it's going to spill over into the ROM threads. Off topic chatter in ROM threads is infinitely more annoying in most people's opinions.
I guess the news that has come out is that the threads were only closed due to OP (Enyo) asking them to be closed. So anyway, this is more of a non-happening than it seemed.
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I agree with you man... specially the last part that i bolded and underlined...
but it turns out most/all of these threads turn into people trolling or flaming. it is really really starting to get out of hand and i am getting tired of deleting posts by the tens. and then coming back to the same thread 2 hours later to clean out more junk posts....
regarding ENYO's threads. Him and i have traded pm's and we have agreed to leave the threads closed until he can post some evidence or links regarding his work. If i just reopen them, you trolls and flamers are just gonna start up again, so his threads remain closed until then.
@blobloblaw1 I don't appreciate you opening threads regarding this topic. i know you can discuss this and you aren't breaking any rules but i think you know this is just gonna start more flaming and ultimatly end up in a flame war.
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fwiw, (and this is just me talking out loud about my own preferences) hype threads shouldnt be allowed or be limited or something
the vast majority of trolling/flaming results from them
i consider myself a legit developer (although xda doesnt seem to want to recognize me as such currently but w/e) and at best ill occasionally put sneak peak pics/coming soon stuff in existing rom threads that i alread maintain....i dont start 5 bazillion threads with ridiculous claims like 243/79ths of the community use my teams work, or just hype up roms that may or may not see the light of day
granted i enjoy the lulz that are associated with all of it, but it seems the main problem isnt going away, which is one particular individual constantly repeating his/hers same mistakes
just label his as waste of time
I post here a link to a recent review of the Galaxy Note.
I know there are many reviews of the Note here on XDA, but I feel this one is diferent.
Just read on and see for your self.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/inthenews/samsung-galaxy-note-hands-on
It's good
Thanks for posting the review to remind people how great the Note is against the unending, biased and unrepresentative negative posts here.
Gaugerer said:
Thanks for posting the review to remind people how great the Note is against the unending, biased and unrepresentative negative posts here.
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You should not be in a forum if you cannot accept that your beloved device also has some negative points. Negative posts came from user experience or unmet expectation.
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