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Would it be possible? Including the voice wake functionality "Okay, Google Now" instead of "Hi Galaxy"?
How many would be interested in something like this?
Should not be too hard to do, what do you think?
Probably will need root to achieve it
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SOLVED: using a very simple tasker profile/action (see here)
UPDATE: Install this tiny free app from the Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.viczian.deathtosvoice (created using Tasker App Factory)
Works on galaxy advancement
vgergo said:
Would it be possible? Including the voice wake functionality "Okay, Google Now" instead of "Hi Galaxy"?
How many would be interested in something like this?
Should not be too hard to do, what do you think?
Probably will need root to achieve it
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Works on galaxy advancement? thank you
Leonardosilvaa said:
Works on galaxy advancement? thank you
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For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
Presjar said:
For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
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Any idea how to replicate this?
Presjar said:
For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
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Yeah I got this too. It happened after I installed SoundHound.
Now I have the options of
Google
S Voice
SoundHound
Interesting but without the option to activate gvoice with screen off its not a huge benefit. I tested open mic+ but it lacks admin rights to bypass the lockscreen etc.
vinokirk said:
Yeah I got this too. It happened after I installed SoundHound.
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The free version? I've tried that but I don't see a menu after double clicking home.
mgutt said:
Interesting but without the option to activate gvoice with screen off its not a huge benefit. I tested open mic+ but it lacks admin rights to bypass the lockscreen etc.
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You mean root permissions?
Sorry, I was wrong. I thought S-Voice is able to bypass a pin lockscreen but it isn't. It is only admin (not root) to allow the screen off command.
The problem of open mic+ is, that it is buggy. It seems to freeze after a short time. Sometimes Google Now freezes as well so I think it is because of Open Mic+ but I didn't tested it enough to verify it. S-Voice seems to be more stable, but is not present if you are in other apps like Maps.
But both systems are too weak in rights. e.g. I'm not able to stop apps (ok root would be needed), not able to say my lockscreen pin, stop a phone call, etc.
Tasker
I just had an idea: it should be possible to create a very simple tasker action, which would be triggered by opening s-voice. It would exit s-voice and switch immediatelly to Google Voice Search. This should work even without rooting.
If this would work, all the convenient ways to start S-Voice would become actually useful to start Google Voice search, including voice-wake, home-double-click, headset-long-press.
I will try this as soon as I get my N3
How do you want to exit S-Voice without root
There's the point! Okay, without root we can just switch away (would mic input focus stay? that would be a problem), with root it should be possible to kick s-voice too.
If one app opens the mic the other will display an error.
Tasker solution works well on unrooted phone
mgutt said:
If one app opens the mic the other will display an error.
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I am happy to report, that the solution I came up with before I had access to the Note 3 works without a hitch.
1. Enable wake-up hotword detection in S-Voice (keep double click Home if you like that too)
2. Create "S Voice" app-triggered tasker profile
3. The activated task should load "Voice Search"
4. Optional step: after starting voice search, my task also kills S-Voice to save memory
(and killing s-voice every time makes you me good)
There is no concurrency problem with the mic (as we were anticipating)
Say "Hi galaxy" while having the screen turned off
(I actually like to "say Die galaxy")
phone wakes up,
home screen unlocks,
s-voice flashes on screen for half a sec (beeps too)
then google voice search appears immediately
it too beeps and listens for the search term or command
Next project: it would be nice to be able to change the "hi galaxy" wake up command
The changeable wake up command is part of the Galaxy S4 S-Voice so I think it will be part in the Note 3 in one of the next updates (hopefully).
Of course I tested your idea, too. But it seems that it works better with Llama than with Tasker as Google Voice starts immediately. As I'm not rooted its not as perfect as yours (I need to tap backwards fast to bypass restarting Google Voice), but the goal is reached
Look:
http://www.maxrev.de/google-sprachsuche-statt-s-voice-mp4-v377253.htm
Update:
Ok I found a better solution. Know I'm using three rules instead of one and this is how it works:
Final Demo Video
The first rule starts Google Voice, but checks if the variable "googleSearch" is not 1 (this is important as it fails, too if the variable does not exist after rebooting the device). The second rules sets the var to "1" if Google Voice is open. The last rule resets the var to "0" with a delay of 3 seconds after Google Voice has been closed. So I'm having 3 seconds to close S Voice before Google Voice would start again.
If you don't want to here the "ping" sound of S Voice after closing Google Voice it would be possible to mute the device for 3 seconds as well, but I don't think this is really important
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The changeable wake up command is part of the Galaxy S4 S-Voice so I think it will be part in the Note 3 in one of the next updates (hopefully).
Of course I tested your idea, too. But it seems that it works better with Llama than with Tasker as Google Voice starts immediately. As I'm not rooted its not as perfect as yours (I need to tap backwards fast to bypass restarting Google Voice), but the goal is reached
Look:
http://www.maxrev.de/google-sprachsuche-statt-s-voice-mp4-v377253.htm
Update:
Ok I found a better solution. Know I'm using three rules instead of one and this is how it works:
Final Demo Video
The first rule starts Google Voice, but checks if the variable "googleSearch" is not 1 (this is important as it fails, too if the variable does not exist after rebooting the device). The second rules sets the var to "1" if Google Voice is open. The last rule resets the var to "0" with a delay of 3 seconds after Google Voice has been closed. So I'm having 3 seconds to close S Voice before Google Voice would start again.
If you don't want to here the "ping" sound of S Voice after closing Google Voice it would be possible to mute the device for 3 seconds as well, but I don't think this is really important
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thats excellent Mgutt
the note does the transition across to google now/voice commands very quickly.. you have put the note back on the table as an option for my next phone.. im just holding out to see if the LG G2 will use the S800 for always on listening when it gets kitkat..
Im a bit spooked by AMOLED now that my galaxy S2 is marred by burn in
etherspin said:
thats excellent Mgutt
the note does the transition across to google now/voice commands very quickly.. you have put the note back on the table as an option for my next phone.. im just holding out to see if the LG G2 will use the S800 for always on listening when it gets kitkat..
Im a bit spooked by AMOLED now that my galaxy S2 is marred by burn in
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I'm having one problem left. But I think its because of Llamas limited amount of triggers. The problem is: Google Voice is not able to receive the next command while its open. Instead S Voice waits for the next "Hello Galaxy". To bypass this problem I tried to switch off the display automatically. This works, but only with a fixed delay as I'm not able to trigger "last touch/last talk + 10 seconds" with Llama.
Would this work with Tasker (and without Root)?
The next option would be to activate "Open Mic+" as long Google Voice is open. But I did not tested if this would work.
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Would this work with Tasker (and without Root)?
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Well we can set the display timeout to 15sec, then restore the default (it's 30 sec for me because of smart stay) when google voice search disappears.
Because of the 30 sec display timeout it hasn't been much of a problem for me, but I was also wondering how to get it to prompt for a next question.
Curious: why doesn't the "ok, google" hotword work in google now? I've just tested the google experience launcher and hot word detection doesn't work in there either.
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Well we can set the display timeout to 15sec, then restore the default (it's 30 sec for me because of smart stay) when google voice search disappears.
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I'm using this setup (after 20 seconds display is turned off) and this is not good if you press the microphone button. Then the display switches off, too. So we need an additional "on touch" condition to avoid that.
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I'm using this setup (after 20 seconds display is turned off) and this is not good if you press the microphone button. Then the display switches off, too. So we need an additional "on touch" condition to avoid that.
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Okay, then set the display timeout to 15sec, wait 15sec then set it back to whatever it used to be. Then if the screen was touched (and the display timeout extended) then it will stay on...
I hope to be able to test these with tasker in the afternoon
im coming from the nexus 6 (ive already installed google launcher---- ok google would turn on the phone--awesome while driving because i can start a song on spotify. ive dug through the settings any im not seeing it--i read the s6 didnt have it at first?? this really sucks if i cant get it to turn on! help!
What what I can tell with my S6, the only time it listens for "Ok Google" is when the screen is on or when the power is connected.
My Galaxy Alpha too.
I couldn't wake up my phone with "OK Google"
It's not the same thing as Google but you can use S Voice. Some like it, some don't. Just sayin'
That feature is not available on samsung. you need to use S voice, which doesn't really compare... it's unfortunate with all samsung phones =(
my note 4 will will start and listen, but it always says I have to unlock the device first. for security reasons I understand. I wonder if there is a voice recolonization app.. hummm..
could be a million dollar app.. someone want to help me make it?
lostsoul1 said:
my note 4 will will start and listen, but it always says I have to unlock the device first. for security reasons I understand. I wonder if there is a voice recolonization app.. hummm..
could be a million dollar app.. someone want to help me make it?
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A few have tried. Open mic is one. You need access to the low power part of the soc to make it worth while which non of us have. Other wise battery life gets destroyed. Samsung just needs to give us the option to use s voice or Google.
andrewpe said:
What what I can tell with my S6, the only time it listens for "Ok Google" is when the screen is on or when the power is connected.
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Dang...it won't turn on even if the phone is plugged in
Yeah, that's my only grip with this phone. Previously using a xiaomi Mi Note Pro amd it worked also on my mercedes w205. Pressing the voice button on the steering wheel no longer launch ok google.
well there is the option to take off screen lock.. haha
Not available on this phone. An alternative is to create a Google Voice shortcut on the lock screen like stock Android.
You can use tasker to reroute s voice to Google search. But its slow and unreliable.
Settings --> System (tab) --> Language and Input --> Google voice typing --> "OK Google" detection
This will allow you to simply say "OK Google" from any screen - including the lock screen.
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Settings --> System (tab) --> Language and Input --> Google voice typing --> "OK Google" detection
This will allow you to simply say "OK Google" from any screen - including the lock screen.
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doesn't work for me. I am using nova launcher.
razorseal said:
That feature is not available on samsung. you need to use S voice, which doesn't really compare... it's unfortunate with all samsung phones =(
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of course it's available, i've always used it via the Google app or Nova launcher... Works fine on my S7 Edge with both (Google or Nova launcher). It turns the screen ON and I can even unlock the phone just by saying "Ok Google" (option has to be enabled in the Google app)
If you turn keep screen on and go to Google settings and tick OK Google from any screen including the lock screen it works
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If you turn keep screen on and go to Google settings and tick OK Google from any screen including the lock screen it works
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ok I think I got it. I need to go to "OK google" detection
Will try if I can launch it from my car now.
Edit: also work from my car command button.
Press and hold home button.
Tap the "G"
Tap settings menu in top left corner
Tap settings
Tap voice
Set up voice recognition
Done.
It does work from all screens.
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Just thought you might all like to know my Galaxy S7 Edge wakes up ONLY by saying "Hey Galaxy" or even just saying "Galaxy". It won't wake up by saying "OK Google"
Noticed it works only when screen is on or... If it's off and on a wireless charger or plugged in....
Hey,
i have iris scanner and fingerprint enabled as security but when i turn on the display and say "ok google" it opens google assistant.
when you close it you end up on the homescreen, unlocked phone.
Can you guys replicate that? I am on the exynos s8.
Jenson44 said:
Hey,
i have iris scanner and fingerprint enabled as security but when i turn on the display and say "ok google" it opens google assistant.
when you close it you end up on the homescreen, unlocked phone.
Can you guys replicate that? I am on the exynos s8.
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I will try it on my snapdragon model when I get off the phone with att
Jenson44 said:
Hey,
i have iris scanner and fingerprint enabled as security but when i turn on the display and say "ok google" it opens google assistant.
when you close it you end up on the homescreen, unlocked phone.
Can you guys replicate that? I am on the exynos s8.
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This is a feature. You can disable by going to settings -> google -> search -> voice -> Trusted voice.
Turn off trusted voice.
Hi Guys,
I have Google Home and when at Home, when I say "OK GOOGLE" to talk to my Google home, my phone screen also turns on and stays on for 5-10 seconds and go dark, the communication happens via Google Home (which is good) but overall, I do NOT want OK Google to work when screen is off! OR best would be, not work when I am at home and connected to my Google Home!
I am coming from S7 Edge, and it never did this on that phone! when the Phone screen was off, OK Google never worked!
What do you guys recommend? It is sooo annoying, I have the phone in my pocket and say OK google, the screen turns and it could accidentally dial someone or load an app etc.
If you want to turn Ok Google off open up the Google App, tap on More, open settings and then open Voice, tap on Voice match and you should be able to turn it off over there.
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minhajmsd said:
If you want to turn Ok Google off open up the Google App, tap on More, open settings and then open Voice, tap on Voice match and you should be able to turn it off over there.
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I want it turned off when the screen is off! I do use it when I have my phone unlocked ! what you suggested disable the function totally.
Raul77 said:
I want it turned off when the screen is off! I do use it when I have my phone unlocked ! what you suggested disable the function totally.
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+1
How do you turn on "ok google"
Thank you
Raul77 said:
I want it turned off when the screen is off! I do use it when I have my phone unlocked ! what you suggested disable the function totally.
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I don't see it as an option anymore, before there used to be a separate option for having Ok Google disabled when screen is locked.
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Using Rn7 China Rom with 10.3.2 MIUI. How do you turn on access to voice match? I turn it on then it reverts back to being turned off. Anyone know fix?
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Using Rn7 China Rom with 10.3.2 MIUI. How do you turn on access to voice match? I turn it on then it reverts back to being turned off. Anyone know fix?
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I think it's a Google bug because until now I had a nokia 7 plus and there was the same problem, present also in the rn7 I just bought these afternoon
I have the same issue.
There is a solution which is to uninstall updates of the Google App, but this is in my case with the Global (PFGMIXM) which already included Google apps, so maybe trying with old apks could work.
But at the moment you update Google App, the issue appears again.
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Using Rn7 China Rom with 10.3.2 MIUI. How do you turn on access to voice match? I turn it on then it reverts back to being turned off. Anyone know fix?
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Is a Google bug, Im actually using it, but to configure the voice match dont use the menu, just open Google app and in the main page say "ok Google", the voice match wizard should start automatically, set your voice profile, it should work, dont try to configure via menu, that will disable voice match, in the menu it shows disable but you can use it normally.
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10.3.3 EU, Voice Match in Google Assistant tries to "add devices", while the OK Google toggle in settings starts the wizard, but after finalizing it, the toggle remains in the off position. Saying "OK Google" doesn't work even it the assistant screen when the search bar says "say OK Google"
Any updates on this?