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Next patch changes

DISCLAIMER: Please don't ask for ROM, dump, files, where I got the ROM etc etc etc. Can't say anything and will ignore any requests.
Next patch version for the Z is still 4.1.2 but has some optimizations, let me name a few:
- Soft keys + notification bar background changed, it is now black and looks a lot better.
- There is an option to adjust the white balance of the screen
- There is an options to enable/disable the notification light
- Stamina seems to work much better, better standby time plus LED notification works with stamina on. Also noticed that apps in stamina exception list work much better now.
- WiFi reception is MUCH better.
- Camera opens faster than before, still a bit slow for my taste but it is a step to the right direction.
- The device is faster in general. Have tested this with another not updated device and it is in the scale of ms but still it is faster and more responsive.
I might be missing a few things here but it is a nice patch, I know it is not 4.2 but still it is a good patch.
Accepting questions to test things but I can't always answer very fast.
EDIT: forgot to write that the exploit for root doesn't work anymore.

Cool thank you Hopefully it won't be long until this is out!
Have they improved the camera quality at all do you know?

gbil said:
DISCLAIMER: Please don't ask for ROM, dump, files, where I got the ROM etc etc etc. Can't say anything and will ignore any requests.
Next patch version for the Z is still 4.1.2 but has some optimizations, let me name a few:
- Soft keys + notification bar background changed, it is now black and looks a lot better.
- There is an option to adjust the white balance of the screen
- There is an options to enable/disable the notification light
- Stamina seems to work much better, better standby time plus LED notification works with stamina on. Also noticed that apps in stamina exception list work much better now.
- WiFi reception is MUCH better.
- Camera opens faster than before, still a bit slow for my taste but it is a step to the right direction.
- The device is faster in general. Have tested this with another not updated device and it is in the scale of ms but still it is faster and more responsive.
I might be missing a few things here but it is a nice patch, I know it is not 4.2 but still it is a good patch.
Accepting questions to test things but I can't always answer very fast.
EDIT: forgot to write that the exploit for root doesn't work anymore.
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How about the battery life? Has it improved?

gbil said:
DISCLAIMER: Please don't ask for ROM, dump, files, where I got the ROM etc etc etc. Can't say anything and will ignore any requests.
Next patch version for the Z is still 4.1.2 but has some optimizations, let me name a few:
- Soft keys + notification bar background changed, it is now black and looks a lot better.
- There is an option to adjust the white balance of the screen
- There is an options to enable/disable the notification light
- Stamina seems to work much better, better standby time plus LED notification works with stamina on. Also noticed that apps in stamina exception list work much better now.
- WiFi reception is MUCH better.
- Camera opens faster than before, still a bit slow for my taste but it is a step to the right direction.
- The device is faster in general. Have tested this with another not updated device and it is in the scale of ms but still it is faster and more responsive.
I might be missing a few things here but it is a nice patch, I know it is not 4.2 but still it is a good patch.
Accepting questions to test things but I can't always answer very fast.
EDIT: forgot to write that the exploit for root doesn't work anymore.
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Why it's looking like a wishlist to me :/
No Offend but without screenshots, everything looks like a rumor to me now.

lovemyarc said:
Why it's looking like a wishlist to me :/
No Offend but without screenshots, everything looks like a rumor to me now.
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I have to agree
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Improved The Photo quality?

This is most likely real! Haven't heard all of the listed improvements but we received internal confirmation on most of them.
Does this one already include the proper Music Unlimited integration in Walkman or is that planned for another release? I know it's coming but never had any confirmation on whether that would be in 4.1 or 4.2.
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how do you know? do you work as a Sony Developer?

G1_enthusiast said:
how do you know? do you work as a Sony Developer?
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Think he shot that question down in his 1st paragraph pal.
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decadan1977 said:
Think he shot that question down in his 1st paragraph pal.
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I dint ask for anything, I just want to know where he get the information from.

G1_enthusiast said:
I dint ask for anything, I just want to know where he get the information from.
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He did say that he can't say anything
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G1_enthusiast said:
I dint ask for anything, I just want to know where he get the information from.
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Since you ended your sentence with a QUESTION mark, you technically did ask a question.
gbil said:
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In the end it doesn't matter where he got the info from, we will be able to judge whether his info was correct or not when the patch comes out.

Dsteppa said:
Since you ended your sentence with a QUESTION mark, you technically did ask a question.
In the end it doesn't matter where he got the info from, we will be able to judge whether his info was correct or not when the patch comes out.
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what i meant was I dint ask for rom or dump files I just want to know where he get his info from.
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gbil said:
Accepting questions to test things but I can't always answer very fast.
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That is why I asked that question. Nothing about rom or dump file

gbil said:
DISCLAIMER: Please don't ask for ROM, dump, files, where I got the ROM etc etc etc. Can't say anything and will ignore any requests.
Next patch version for the Z is still 4.1.2 but has some optimizations, let me name a few:
- Soft keys + notification bar background changed, it is now black and looks a lot better.
- There is an option to adjust the white balance of the screen
- There is an options to enable/disable the notification light
- Stamina seems to work much better, better standby time plus LED notification works with stamina on. Also noticed that apps in stamina exception list work much better now.
- WiFi reception is MUCH better.
- Camera opens faster than before, still a bit slow for my taste but it is a step to the right direction.
- The device is faster in general. Have tested this with another not updated device and it is in the scale of ms but still it is faster and more responsive.
I might be missing a few things here but it is a nice patch, I know it is not 4.2 but still it is a good patch.
Accepting questions to test things but I can't always answer very fast.
EDIT: forgot to write that the exploit for root doesn't work anymore.
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PS3 Sixaxis controller support ? Like in the SP ?

I hope you're right, and I hope a WiFi fix will be included as well - will be very good update, though I really like grey navigation/status bar...

Cool, but primary hope for less compression of picture taken (size up to at least 4-5mb per pic) ><

Credibility
Sooo basically no source, no answer no screens, no questions = 0 credibility.
He gets 2 points for being a senior poster but basically what was the point in posting this?
How about I post an article saying that Sony Z will be the first phone to get KLP and then put a disclaimer similar to yours and expect people to believe me, long story short we will only know how right/wrong you are when it comes out which will be about the same time we find out all the new features so again what was the point

This guy has a trusted sources.
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I'm more inclined to believe him, because he does have a history of predicting/leaking things for the XZ. Search his forum posts.

gbil said:
DISCLAIMER: Please don't ask for ROM, dump, files, where I got the ROM etc etc etc. Can't say anything and will ignore any requests.
Next patch version for the Z is still 4.1.2 but has some optimizations, let me name a few:
- Soft keys + notification bar background changed, it is now black and looks a lot better.
- There is an option to adjust the white balance of the screen
- There is an options to enable/disable the notification light
- Stamina seems to work much better, better standby time plus LED notification works with stamina on. Also noticed that apps in stamina exception list work much better now.
- WiFi reception is MUCH better.
- Camera opens faster than before, still a bit slow for my taste but it is a step to the right direction.
- The device is faster in general. Have tested this with another not updated device and it is in the scale of ms but still it is faster and more responsive.
I might be missing a few things here but it is a nice patch, I know it is not 4.2 but still it is a good patch.
Accepting questions to test things but I can't always answer very fast.
EDIT: forgot to write that the exploit for root doesn't work anymore.
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You forgot to mention that the display and colors look much better with the newer version (10.1.1.A.1.253)
Indeed, exploit root doesn't work with this version...

Canadian Moto X First Impressions

Hey all,
I managed to get a Canadian Moto X. I noticed there are other dumps from Verizon and AT&T. Would anyone be interested in the Canadian system dump?
I've never done a system dump, but I doubt it's something I can't do. If anyone is interested, and can point me to the right direction; I'd be more than happy to supply the dump.
Tried following this guide:
http://www.ehow.com/how_12211911_system-dump-android.html
But I can't get it to work. Seems I need su/root access. I'll research further, but would be faster if someone can point me to the right direction!
Edit: Photo attached. Cuz someone will eventually say "Pic or it didn't happen".

Which store/location did you yet it from?
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Enhanced said:
Which store/location did you yet it from?
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Futureshop at North York.

hidea said:
Hey all,
I managed to get a Canadian Moto X. I noticed there are other dumps from Verizon and AT&T. Would anyone be interested in the Canadian system dump?
I've never done a system dump, but I doubt it's something I can't do. If anyone is interested, and can point me to the right direction; I'd be more than happy to supply the dump.
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I am sure people will be interested in it eventually when more people start to get their phones. I'd tell you how to do it myself but I have no idea either lol.

jonnyg1097 said:
I am sure people will be interested in it eventually when more people start to get their phones. I'd tell you how to do it myself but I have no idea either lol.
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Yeah I agree. Since you are probably the first person in the world to have the phone, you should give us your impressions and such first!
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Enhanced said:
Yeah I agree. Since you are probably the first person in the world to have the phone, you should give us your impressions and such first!
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Brief history:
Major iOS nerd. Made my living from iOS dev (didn't sell apps, but worked on projects on the iOS platform). Always have been an Android follower, though. Have all the Nexus devices, but they always end up sitting in the drawer. Owned a few non-Nexus phones, HTC, Commtiva (uggh), Samsung Galaxy S3 & S4.
Quick overview:
• The white is nice, but I can see it getting dirty quick. The surface of the backplate is very smooth to touch. Somewhat slippery (doesn't offer traction whatsoever) despite having a weaved carbon fibre look, I expected it to feel a bit "rough", like unpolished CF.
• Device itself feels magnificent. Has a substantial feel to it, yet it weighs less than the Nexus 4. The device is heavy at the top (speaker top), which I find to be a clever design, it rests on my palm better as it would rest on the middle & index fingers better. That dimple in the middle, feels awesome too. It's the equivalent on dimples on keyboards (F & J keys), it's there to let you know how to hold the phone the right way.
• Speaking of palm, I have a slightly larger than average palm size, and the device feels just right. It's not overly big. Which is one of the primary reasons why I wanted to check out the phone. The 4.7 display feels oddly more fitting, than the Nexus 4, thanks to the much smaller bezel. Less shimmying the device to reach the back button.
• Had a tad bit of problem setting up Touchless Control, because it was so fussy about zero ambience noise. Had to find a dead silent room. Way too fussy.
• Active Notifications, something I can't live without anymore; and it's only been a day! I think this is a very Apple-ish feature; except Motorola beat them to it (or Apple isn't into AMOLED screens).
• Battery life, I don't know. Seems to hold longer charge better than my S4. I intentionally let the phone run without charging it since last night. I wanted to see a real life test. I'm sure the smarter guys/reviewers will be doing a much more through/scientific test than I will be.
• The additional features (Assist, Switcher, Motorola Connect) are quite useful and not gimicky! I didn't read any reviews prior to getting the phone (that's just how I roll) and I was pleasantly surprised to see Assist! If you're unfamiliar, it's a Do Not Disturb app, similar to iOS 6's, with additional features (mute during meetings, driving mode). Implementation is quite the same as iOS 6's.
• The OS feels very AOSP. There's some random customization here and there, but very very bare. I can't find any thing that is not within the Holo guideline. It's super responsive, despite being a dual core CPU. Motorola must've done some major optimization to get 4.2.2 to run like this. It feels faster than the TouchWiz ROM on the S4; probably because Moto X isn't bloated.
• Another nice surprise is to see a "Google" folder on the home screen. All of the Google apps, preloaded. It might be a turn-off for some, but I thought that was a nice addition. I mean, Motorola being a Google company…
• There are a few visual glitches, Navbar being semi transparent and if that's intentional, then it's not "right" because most wallpapers don't fit the 4.7", leaving a good 20 DIP solid black navbar.
• I'm not used to seeing a carrier label on the top left corner. Nexus 4 didn't have this. I much prefer not to see this at all.
• Oddly enough, I have not seen any Rogers' bloat! There is a teensy bit of hope!
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• My phone says "eh" and "aboot".

thanks for the info! i went to rogers here in ottawa and they had one black one left, but they wouldnt sell it outright to me, so im trying to find one

hidea said:
Brief history:
Quick overview:
• Active Notifications, something I can't live without anymore; and it's only been a day! I think this is a very Apple-ish feature; except Motorola beat them to it (or Apple isn't into AMOLED screens).
• There are a few visual glitches, Navbar being semi transparent and if that's intentional, then it's not "right" because most wallpapers don't fit the 4.7", leaving a good 20 DIP solid black navbar.
• I'm not used to seeing a carrier label on the top left corner. Nexus 4 didn't have this. I much prefer not to see this at all.
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Active notifications: Do you ever find the "pulsing" to be annoying? For example, if you have the phone face up on your desk, is it annoying to have to wait until the active notification lights up before you can check your messages/know if you have a message at all? I love the concept of active notifications, but I want to be able to not wait for it to come up.
Nav bar: I think that's intentional. No way they would overlook that part. I never liked the transparent nav bar anyways.
Carrier label: I've seen some reviews or videos that didn't have the label on the top left and am disappointed that it's there. I'm sure I would find it annoying as well so hopefully we can find a way to nuke it.
TIP: Maybe you should renamed this thread into the impressions thread? I could see it taking off. Or maybe just copy your post into a fresh thread with an appropriate title? Be a good place to aggregate all the impressions for this strange phone that many people are unsure of buying.

Enhanced said:
Active notifications: Do you ever find the "pulsing" to be annoying? For example, if you have the phone face up on your desk, is it annoying to have to wait until the active notification lights up before you can check your messages/know if you have a message at all? I love the concept of active notifications, but I want to be able to not wait for it to come up.
Nav bar: I think that's intentional. No way they would overlook that part. I never liked the transparent nav bar anyways.
Carrier label: I've seen some reviews or videos that didn't have the label on the top left and am disappointed that it's there. I'm sure I would find it annoying as well so hopefully we can find a way to nuke it.
TIP: Maybe you should renamed this thread into the impressions thread? I could see it taking off. Or maybe just copy your post into a fresh thread with an appropriate title? Be a good place to aggregate all the impressions for this strange phone that many people are unsure of buying.
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Pulsing: Not at all. It's a good design, IMHO. if the screen is off, then there's nothing to worry about. Look at it from the "no news is good news" perspective. The same design as LED blinks! Since you asked, it's clever (IMHO) that you would have to grab your phone for the screen to display the time. At least I don't have to press the lock screen button to check the time.
Nav Bar If this is intentional, then that's a very strange design decision. My live wallpaper won't fit flushed against the 1280 height. :sad:
Carrier Label Yea. I can't wait for a root access! Need to get rid of this bloody thing. Check screenshot. BTW, I unlocked my phone, that's why it's showing as Koodo.

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Pulsing: Not at all. It's a good design, IMHO. if the screen is off, then there's nothing to worry about. Look at it from the "no news is good news" perspective. The same design as LED blinks!
Nav Bar If this is intentional, then that's a very strange design decision. My live wallpaper won't fit flushed against the 1280 height. :sad:
Carrier Label Yea. I can't wait for a root access! Need to get rid of this bloody thing. Check screenshot. BTW, I unlocked my phone, that's why it's showing as Koodo.
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I've always made my LED "always on" instead of pulsing. Guess I'd have to change my habits with the X. And like you said, maybe it's for the better that I don't constantly jump to my phone. As an additional question: if you have an outstanding notification, how often/in what intervals does it pulse? Does it pulse slower as the notification is not checked after a while? If you have no notifications at all, how often does it pulse? (Sorry, just very intrigued by these notifications)
The transparency of the bar is intentional, but I assume the wallpaper isn't isn't and it would actually be odd that they overlooked that part. This isn't an issue for me though as I always hide by nav bar and use LMT.
And yeah, I would definitely need to get rid of that label...ugh. Question, what is up with your homescreen? Can't be a ROM cause it's too early so is it some launcher?

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I've always made my LED "always on" instead of pulsing. Guess I'd have to change my habits with the X. And like you said, maybe it's for the better that I don't constantly jump to my phone. As an additional question: if you have an outstanding notification, how often/in what intervals does it pulse? Does it pulse slower as the notification is not checked after a while? If you have no notifications at all, how often does it pulse? (Sorry, just very intrigued by these notifications)
And yeah, I would definitely need to get rid of that label...ugh. Question, what is up with your homescreen? Can't be a ROM cause it's too early so is it some launcher?
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Additional Questions: Let me investigate this further. I need to study the behaviour anyway (I'm a UX guy).
Edit: With 2 different types of notifications, the screen pulses every six seconds-ish. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen the screen pulse/breath without any pending notification.
What is it with my homescreen that you find odd? The lack of icons? I just picked an empty page. I'm running Action Launcher.
Edit: yea, it's an Action Launcher issue, wallpaper not fitting correctly. The native launcher fits the wallpaper flushed! Sorry, Moto! I spoke too soon!

hidea said:
Additional Questions: Let me investigate this further. I need to study the behaviour anyway (I'm a UX guy).
What is it with my homescreen that you find odd? The lack of icons? I just picked an empty page. I'm running Action Launcher.
Edit: yea, it's an Action Launcher issue, wallpaper not fitting correctly. The native launcher fits the wallpaper flushed! Sorry, Moto! I spoke too soon!
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Ah good to know about the wallpaper.
And yeah, I just never seen that launcher before so the widgets looked interesting. Always been a Nova guy.
I'll be awaiting your notification behaviours.

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Ah good to know about the wallpaper.
And yeah, I just never seen that launcher before so the widgets looked interesting. Always been a Nova guy.
I'll be awaiting your notification behaviours.
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Edit: With 2 different types of notifications, the screen pulses every six seconds-ish. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen the screen pulse/breath without any pending notification.
Edit 2: I just saw it breathe, without any pending notification. I can't time it. I'm distracted very easily! Sorry (I think it's past the sixty second mark?)

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Edit: With 2 different types of notifications, the screen pulses every six seconds-ish. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen the screen pulse/breath without any pending notification.
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Interesting.
Is it possible to make the AN (active notification) show up by quickly covering the light sensor and then uncovering it? This would simulate taking the phone out of your pocket. I assume it works, but wonder how well. Could be a nice little trick to get the AN to pop.

Enhanced said:
Interesting.
Is it possible to make the AN (active notification) show up by quickly covering the light sensor and then uncovering it? This would simulate taking the phone out of your pocket. I assume it works, but wonder how well. Could be a nice little trick to get the AN to pop.
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It seems like a combination of a few sensors. Covering the device doesn't activate AN. However, moving it about will bring up AN. So, gyroscope based?

hidea said:
It seems like a combination of a few sensors. Covering the device doesn't activate AN. However, moving it about will bring up AN. So, gyroscope based?
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Ah that's pretty cool. Just shake the phone to show AN. Works too I guess.

I can't stress how COOL the Touchless feature is! I mean, EAT YOUR HEART OUT, SIRI!
Too bad I can't call it something else, other than "OK Google Now". I'd do HELLO MOTO for ****s and giggles.

hidea said:
Edit: yea, it's an Action Launcher issue, wallpaper not fitting correctly. The native launcher fits the wallpaper flushed! Sorry, Moto! I spoke too soon!
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You're a horrible reviewer, no cookie for you!
More seriously, thanks for posting about this. I'll throw in some more questions:
- You say the back is smooth, but is it soft-touch or a hard surface?
- How much free space was there before you put Action Launcher on it?
- Some reviews noted that whites have a pink tint to them - is this true for yours?
- How's the speaker phone sound quality?
- Do you connect it up to your work email? If so, does Assist allow you to stop it from synching overnight?

thedosbox said:
You're a horrible reviewer, no cookie for you!
More seriously, thanks for posting about this. I'll throw in some more questions:
- You say the back is smooth, but is it soft-touch or a hard surface?
- How much free space was there before you put Action Launcher on it?
- Some reviews noted that whites have a pink tint to them - is this true for yours?
- How's the speaker phone sound quality?
- Do you connect it up to your work email? If so, does Assist allow you to stop it from synching overnight?
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-smooth hard surface. Not rubberized.
- space wise? 10GB
- mine is neutral white. There's a pearl effect.
- I'll test speaker!
- assist doesn't stop syncing. Only suppressing notifications.
Thank god I don't write reviews for a living! I'd be out on the street, not being able to afford the cheapest phone plan here in Canada

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Pulsing: Not at all. It's a good design, IMHO. if the screen is off, then there's nothing to worry about. Look at it from the "no news is good news" perspective. The same design as LED blinks! Since you asked, it's clever (IMHO) that you would have to grab your phone for the screen to display the time. At least I don't have to press the lock screen button to check the time.
Nav Bar If this is intentional, then that's a very strange design decision. My live wallpaper won't fit flushed against the 1280 height. :sad:
Carrier Label Yea. I can't wait for a root access! Need to get rid of this bloody thing. Check screenshot. BTW, I unlocked my phone, that's why it's showing as Koodo.
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Thanks for the first impressions, I am getting more and more excited for the phone as I read more of what you write. But I was wondering though how you went about unlocking your phone? You didnt have to do it through the carrier did you?

[Q] Planning on getting one, need some answers

Hey guys, I have to ask:
- Does this device have a bootloader lock such as sony smartphones when purchased from a carrier?
- Is there any sudden death/current bugs/defects I should look out for? (tinted screen, broken hardware buttons, bad touch controls, anything?)
- I see there's unofficial cyanogenmod support, is there anything not working? (gps, camera, nfc? threads don't seem to mention anything broken, is it omitted or there isn't anything to fix?)
- Anything I should do other than read the stickies? Samsung phones have a very important and easily corrupted EFS folder, so I'm on the lookout for anything like this on my next purchase.
Any answers will be greatly appreciated.

Choristav said:
Hey guys, I have to ask:
- Does this device have a bootloader lock such as sony smartphones when purchased from a carrier?
- Is there any sudden death/current bugs/defects I should look out for? (tinted screen, broken hardware buttons, bad touch controls, anything?)
- I see there's unofficial cyanogenmod support, is there anything not working? (gps, camera, nfc? threads don't seem to mention anything broken, is it omitted or there isn't anything to fix?)
- Anything I should do other than read the stickies? Samsung phones have a very important and easily corrupted EFS folder, so I'm on the lookout for anything like this on my next purchase.
Any answers will be greatly appreciated.
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If you use autorec it will flash the JB boot loader, and a custom recovery (TWRP) so you can flash ROMs and what not. The only thing I've heard about hardware defects are lines on the screen. Vertical, horizontal and screen spasms altogether. When it comes to cyanogen, I've never used it on this phone. Unless you're one of those must-have-aosp sorta guys, stock ROMs are the way to go. On the other hand, I did use Mahdi for awhile and it was awesome.
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- Does this device have a bootloader lock such as sony smartphones when purchased from a carrier?
It has a locked bootloader, yes.
- Is there any sudden death/current bugs/defects I should look out for? (tinted screen, broken hardware buttons, bad touch controls, anything?)
Yes there is. Check the screen. On some phones, the digitizer randomly stops working. Often occurs after a drop.
Check for something like this or something like this.
- I see there's unofficial cyanogenmod support, is there anything not working? (gps, camera, nfc? threads don't seem to mention anything broken, is it omitted or there isn't anything to fix?)
I wouldn''t say "Not working" as much as I'd say not working properly. Camera performance on AOSP is generally horrible and more often than not, a Stock based rom would be the way to go =)
- Anything I should do other than read the stickies? Samsung phones have a very important and easily corrupted EFS folder, so I'm on the lookout for anything like this on my next purchase.
The G2 also has an important EFS partition. It's not as easily corrupted, but make sure you have a backup of it at least.
Don't drop the phone, the digitzer is glued to the LCD - if the screen cracks, your digitizer dies.

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Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
I'm a sucker for AOSP, do you mean the camera has worse quality (as the stock has more options), or does it randomly stop working? Coming from an i9300 I thought this device would have all the necessary sources available for development, or is LG a bad company towards developers?
Also, is anyone compiling AOSP roms with linaro for this phone?

Choristav said:
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
I'm a sucker for AOSP, do you mean the camera has worse quality (as the stock has more options), or does it randomly stop working? Coming from an i9300 I thought this device would have all the necessary sources available for development, or is LG a bad company towards developers?
Also, is anyone compiling AOSP roms with linaro for this phone?
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I'll advise you to go for a Nexus 5, One Plus One or wait for something with tons of development for AOSP ROMs like the two I mentioned.
Also there is a risk of permanent black lines that happens to some G2 owners, its suspected that heat is the cause but if it happens to you while flashing you'll have to RMA the phone.
There is a workaround for the locked bootloader. The camera quality is worse on AOSP cause the drivers for the camera are closed source. Development on AOSP ROMs is slow. Best option is stick to stock or stock based ROMs
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Choristav said:
Hey guys, I have to ask:
- Does this device have a bootloader lock such as sony smartphones when purchased from a carrier?
- Is there any sudden death/current bugs/defects I should look out for? (tinted screen, broken hardware buttons, bad touch controls, anything?)
- I see there's unofficial cyanogenmod support, is there anything not working? (gps, camera, nfc? threads don't seem to mention anything broken, is it omitted or there isn't anything to fix?)
- Anything I should do other than read the stickies? Samsung phones have a very important and easily corrupted EFS folder, so I'm on the lookout for anything like this on my next purchase.
Any answers will be greatly appreciated.
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thanks for asking this question my friend
i just wanted to add :
- how is the over all experience comparing it with samsung - htc devices , i have been using both of them for a while ( i dont like build material in samsung and update process with htc - i read that lg is making progress in this direction ).
- how does it feel after a while like the size,shape, build quality including overall performance .
im very close to buy one but im afraid a little bit - never owned an lg smartphone.
best regard from me

- Does this device have a bootloader lock such as sony smartphones when purchased from a carrier?
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yes it does have a locked bootloader but that has not stopped us from getting recovery/roms/kernels/etc; we use a an exploit in the aboot to bypass the locked bootloader so there is nothing to worry about
- Is there any sudden death/current bugs/defects I should look out for? (tinted screen, broken hardware buttons, bad touch controls, anything?)
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none that I am aware of as a shipping device, but if you are an avid flasher(as in you love to constantly flash something new) than you need to be careful because there is permanent screen damage issue which you can read more about here
- I see there's unofficial cyanogenmod support, is there anything not working? (gps, camera, nfc? threads don't seem to mention anything broken, is it omitted or there isn't anything to fix?)
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I am not sure which device(different g2 variants get different roms) you may be planning on getting but already have full official support and everything is working; although experience with aosp is not the best if you get use to the lg stock experience there are actually some great aosp roms(better experience than cm anyways)
- Anything I should do other than read the stickies? Samsung phones have a very important and easily corrupted EFS folder, so I'm on the lookout for anything like this on my next purchase.
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you can check out the g2 help thread second post which I link some very useful threads(including info on backing up efs)
- how is the over all experience comparing it with samsung - htc devices , i have been using both of them for a while ( i dont like build material in samsung and update process with htc - i read that lg is making progress in this direction ).
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I came from an sgs 3 and in the family my parents always getting a Samsung in overall I prefer the look and feel of the g2 but the screen is one of my bad points, it is full glass and very easy to break so I suggest getting a case as a priority and as one of the members pointed out the lcd/digitizer are glued together and it is pretty much impossible to get them separated so replacing is tedious
- how does it feel after a while like the size,shape, build quality including overall performance .
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I came from a generation of small devices since before the sgs3(biggest device I had prior to the g2) I had a lot small devices so getting used to a bigger device was little but difficult but rather quickly and the button placement/knock on and knock code is a great feature and before you know it you will be knocking on all your devices(I spent about a month like that)
build quality is okay for a plastic device it feels nice but it definitely needs a cover to maintain it safe
performance is great, I never experienced any lag; camera took some great pics(in the day because low light performance is bad) and after rooting and installing the modded camera you will enjoy all the improvements in day/low light scenarios; and I use the phone for lots of gaming specifically emulators, so I was able to average about 20 hours a day with heavy ppsspp usage so both performance and battery life are killer
these are all a point of view from a zombiepikachu who is a gamer and lg based roms user and my point of view/experience may differ from others

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Any roms I should look out for, then?
I'm looking for as AOSP-wise as possible, touchwiz left me a horrible taste and now I've seen this LG phone has this huge quick selection thing in the notification area.

Choristav said:
Any roms I should look out for, then?
I'm looking for as AOSP-wise as possible, touchwiz left me a horrible taste and now I've seen this LG phone has this huge quick selection thing in the notification area.
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well for aosp many users like mahdi-rom but you can also check out the g2 original dev thread(basically everything aosp) like I mentioned I am a stock user so I don't really touch the aosp side of the g2

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Any roms I should look out for, then?
I'm looking for as AOSP-wise as possible, touchwiz left me a horrible taste and now I've seen this LG phone has this huge quick selection thing in the notification area.
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lots of aosp choices.. AICP, Mahdi, Liquidsmooth, Vanir, Slimkat etc that i can name of ... u'll be ruined with choices mate..

XxZombiePikachu said:
yes it does have a locked bootloader but that has not stopped us from getting recovery/roms/kernels/etc; we use a an exploit in the aboot to bypass the locked bootloader so there is nothing to worry about
none that I am aware of as a shipping device, but if you are an avid flasher(as in you love to constantly flash something new) than you need to be careful because there is permanent screen damage issue which you can read more about here
I am not sure which device(different g2 variants get different roms) you may be planning on getting but already have full official support and everything is working; although experience with aosp is not the best if you get use to the lg stock experience there are actually some great aosp roms(better experience than cm anyways)
you can check out the g2 help thread second post which I link some very useful threads(including info on backing up efs)
I came from an sgs 3 and in the family my parents always getting a Samsung in overall I prefer the look and feel of the g2 but the screen is one of my bad points, it is full glass and very easy to break so I suggest getting a case as a priority and as one of the members pointed out the lcd/digitizer are glued together and it is pretty much impossible to get them separated so replacing is tedious
I came from a generation of small devices since before the sgs3(biggest device I had prior to the g2) I had a lot small devices so getting used to a bigger device was little but difficult but rather quickly and the button placement/knock on and knock code is a great feature and before you know it you will be knocking on all your devices(I spent about a month like that)
build quality is okay for a plastic device it feels nice but it definitely needs a cover to maintain it safe
performance is great, I never experienced any lag; camera took some great pics(in the day because low light performance is bad) and after rooting and installing the modded camera you will enjoy all the improvements in day/low light scenarios; and I use the phone for lots of gaming specifically emulators, so I was able to average about 20 hours a day with heavy ppsspp usage so both performance and battery life are killer
these are all a point of view from a zombiepikachu who is a gamer and lg based roms user and my point of view/experience may differ from others
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thanks bro for your input
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lots of aosp choices.. AICP, Mahdi, Liquidsmooth, Vanir, Slimkat etc that i can name of ... u'll be ruined with choices mate..
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whats your opinion my friend ( as it seems you had quite some phones )

my personal choice now would be AICP :good:

hi
i just wanted to add that i bought the phone and im glad i did.
great battery life
the screen is great too
a great idea with knock code and power & volume buttons
camera quality could have been better
i just hope i dont get touch screen issues
even better being in xda-developers community
best regards from me...

Axon 7 Mini Community

Hi all,
it seems as if I'm the first on XDA to own an Axon 7 Mini. Therefore a first set of Information:
Region: EU (D)
Model: B2017G
Color: Gold
Software Version: V1.0.0B01
Baseband: MPSS.TA.2.1.c1-00101-897_GEN_
Please let me know if I can suppert the developers in any weay.
Cheers!

Any review... What's your take on the device.... Tq...
Sent from my SM-N920C using XDA-Developers mobile app

Well probably not a complete review. First of all it's a great phone.
- Display Full HD with great colors, who needs more?
- Overall performance, not playing game so not much to say here. Definitly a better feel then the OnePlus Two I was useing before. Can't really pinpoint why...
- Camera is good for everyday use. Nothing to exciting here.
- QuickCharge 2 is great, though I miss Qi charging (why is that not a thing anymore? Even Ikea sells qi chargers now...)
- Sound is probably the best I ever heard on a mobile
Just two annoyances:
1. You have press the freaking bell on the lockscreen.
2. A builtin task killer!? Why? Killed my alarm clock twice before I found out what was going on.

what about audio chip? the same as greater?

Yeah Audio is by far the best I had on a mobile. This is true for loudspeaker, calls and headphones.
Chipset here is supposed to be the sames as with the normal Axon 7.
I just encountered the first real issue:
Problem: When speakerphone is enabled the other party can not hear you.
Solution: Disable "OK Google" detection.

can you make few photos in day and night? and video for example street view to check the sensitivity of the microphone- full HD, give link to mega.nz

Metatron22 said:
2. A builtin task killer!? Why? Killed my alarm clock twice before I found out what was going on.
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Can you elaborate on that? How can I configure the task killer / keep the alarm from getting killed?

Well, the Task Killer is hiding under Energy Settings. You can select not to kill it there. But still it took me two days to figure out why it was happening.
About the Fotos. Let's see how the weather is outside the next couple of days. I'm pretty sure there are already a couple of youtube Videos out there, which already tested the camera thouroghly.

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Well, the Task Killer is hiding under Energy Settings. You can select not to kill it there.
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Are you using the built in clock for alarm or a third party app? The built in clock does not show up in the app list in the energy settings for me.

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Are you using the built in clock for alarm or a third party app? The built in clock does not show up in the app list in the energy settings for me.
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Oh I was using Google Clock when this happened. Stock worked fine Out of the box

Hi guys, I received my Axon 7 Mini yesterday. From all the information on the internet I was under the impression that the device supports 802.11 ac (5Ghz) but now it doesn't seem to find my network. Do I have a defective unit or can you guys confirm that?
Thanks,
rien

How is the battery life?.. What SOT can u get... Tq
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As for me battery life is fine. It's about 2 days in average use.
Can't confirm about AC-wifi. I'm still using old N-standart router.

Hi,
I am using the Axon 7 mini now for a few days.
First of all, I'm very happy with this phone. But I have some problems.
When I tap on top of the screen the phone moves my apps and the are sorted another way I want them.
Next thing, all of the movies I receive in Whatsapp stop after a few seconds. But the sound goes on. So you have to wait and at some point (video ends) the sound is killed, then the video starts running again but without sound. Is anyone else here with a similar problem? I just hoped to receive a custom rom or something else for the phone because I think there is much potential in this thing.

I was looking at this phone to recommend to a friend, but I'm distressed that there isn't much of a community here. Should I be worried about recommending this phone? It really looks like a good deal for someone with a budget of $300.

Look at axon mini thread here on XDA. Locked bootloader, root after a few months and only by some Chinese stuff, not working on updates by manufacturer, lack of custom roms... That's the major thing you should consider before buy. I think that's not worth $300 +/-.
Maybe if phone would not have SW issues, but I don't believe ZTE could do it.
Nevertheless, axon mini had major price drop after several months on market - from more than $300 to $180.

Hey all. I've had an Axon 7 Mini for a few weeks now and have been writing pros, cons, etc. about it on the ZTE USA community forums -- I can't post a link because I'm new here
I'm in the UK, and shipped mine in from Germany. I have the same model as the OP, but the grey version, with V1.0.0B02 software. It hasn't had any software updates since I've had it, but I'm hoping the Mini will also get an update to make the notification bell optional (and the LED customisable if possible).
I consistently get around 5.5hrs screen on time, but this drops if the location settings are on. It has great coverage on the UK giffgaff network, and I didn't have to edit any APN settings for 4G and MMS to work.

Thanks to all who have posted. Any info about RF reception? Many complained the Axon 7 has poor RF and WiFi reception.
Also, how's the sound on headphones? Can you tell us if it has WiFi AC (5 GHz)? This is still unclear to me.

A bit disheartened to see a complete lack of support for this thing so far, as I was looking for something a bit smaller to replace my LG V10--but I like my root.

It will get updates, probably Android 7.0 pretty soon, the thing is you guys have gotten the phone so fast, lol. You'll have updates during these months don't worry.

Solved Xperia AOSP Problems - Better as Stock

Hey Folks, while working on My next Snappatch Version was i able to fix the biggest Problems on the XZ Premium which should also affect other Xperias. Here are the main Points:
-Camera Noise (Solved)
-Display Quality (Solved)
-Audio Output Quality (Solved)
-Microphone Handling (Solved)
In conlcusion:
I added and enabled some Camera Services and Functions to enhance the Quality and to allow full Google Camera Mod Support.
I added and enabled Display Services and Functions to deliver a more Natural Output besides HDR Support and Adaptive Backlight capabilities.
I added and enabled Audio Services, Functions and Libraries from Qualcomm and SONY Oreo Firmwares to enhance the Output Quality over all Sources like Videos, Music and the main System.
Last but not least better Microphone Handling. Adapted and ehanced from many Android Devices and Qualcomm Documentations to deliver better Recognition and Input Quality over both Mics on top and bottom of the Device.
Nothing against switching from Stock to AOSP anymore. The benefits of Snappatched AOSP over Stock are huge. Latest SDK, full Substratum Support, better Audio and Visual Quality (In and Output), better Performance (Shadowgun Ledgends on Ultra - 60FPS, No heat, no glitches), more freedom of UI Layouts, better App Support, faster Storage Speeds, newer Kernel, Smoother UI, Adaptive Icon Support, Pixel Features and so on. The Snappatch for the XZP is coming soon and i Hope i can raise the Interest on AOSP on Xperias with this!
Forget Stock! This is the next Level! Love My XZP now...
Stay tuned and try it by Yourself!

I hope that you are right. But i want to try it very bad want i want a good working aosp! I CANT WAIT!!!

I'm on 8142 dual SIM I'm willing to try too

:cyclops: Ufff!!! sounds amazing !!! can't wait to test it

G8142 here also. Can't wait to try this out

I think I will unlock my bootloader ?
Can't wait for some reviews

I would really like to get some advanced Feedback and compares between Stock and AOSP. RAW alone should be worth the Bootloader unlock and going away from Stock. SONY does a really great Job on the Sources for our AOSP Bases and everything runs really well compared to other Devices like from LG. One Thing that really bothers Me is the buggy TWRP on our XZP. CPU Temp isn't showing right, MTP fails 90% of the Time and AROMA has a Displaying Bug. Since the Snappatch is coming with My own crafted AROMA Installer will we face a invisible Utility, but i will make a Video showing how to easily flash the Patch anyways on our Devices (Side by Side with working AROMA on the Axon 7).
Hope @Myself5 can solve the TWRP Issues one Day, and that more Users will pay attention to him and his Work on our Forums! Thanks a lot Mate for contributing that much to our Devices, and Sorry for People like this "FartyParty" Guy! Much respect for You, i know how it feels to be on XDA sometimes...

Miustone said:
Hey Folks, while working on My next Snappatch Version was i able to fix the biggest Problems on the XZ Premium which should also affect other Xperias. Here are the main Points:
-Camera Noise (Solved)
-Display Quality (Solved)
-Audio Output Quality (Solved)
-Microphone Handling (Solved)
In conlcusion:
I added and enabled some Camera Services and Functions to enhance the Quality and to allow full Google Camera Mod Support.
I added and enabled Display Services and Functions to deliver a more Natural Output besides HDR Support and Adaptive Backlight capabilities.
I added and enabled Audio Services, Functions and Libraries from Qualcomm and SONY Oreo Firmwares to enhance the Output Quality over all Sources like Videos, Music and the main System.
Last but not least better Microphone Handling. Adapted and ehanced from many Android Devices and Qualcomm Documentations to deliver better Recognition and Input Quality over both Mics on top and bottom of the Device.
Nothing against switching from Stock to AOSP anymore. The benefits of Snappatched AOSP over Stock are huge. Latest SDK, full Substratum Support, better Audio and Visual Quality (In and Output), better Performance (Shadowgun Ledgends on Ultra - 60FPS, No heat, no glitches), more freedom of UI Layouts, better App Support, faster Storage Speeds, newer Kernel, Smoother UI, Adaptive Icon Support, Pixel Features and so on. The Snappatch for the XZP is coming soon and i Hope i can raise the Interest on AOSP on Xperias with this!
Forget Stock! This is the next Level! Love My XZP now...
Stay tuned and try it by Yourself!
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dude send your paypal account, dinner on me <3
cant wait to see this baby up and running

Yes I agree we all should donate for all the hard work and time invested yes send me your PayPal address

Miustone said:
I would really like to get some advanced Feedback and compares between Stock and AOSP. RAW alone should be worth the Bootloader unlock and going away from Stock. SONY does a really great Job on the Sources for our AOSP Bases and everything runs really well compared to other Devices like from LG. One Thing that really bothers Me is the buggy TWRP on our XZP. CPU Temp isn't showing right, MTP fails 90% of the Time and AROMA has a Displaying Bug. Since the Snappatch is coming with My own crafted AROMA Installer will we face a invisible Utility, but i will make a Video showing how to easily flash the Patch anyways on our Devices (Side by Side with working AROMA on the Axon 7).
Hope @Myself5 can solve the TWRP Issues one Day, and that more Users will pay attention to him and his Work on our Forums! Thanks a lot Mate for contributing that much to our Devices, and Sorry for People like this "FartyParty" Guy! Much respect for You, i know how it feels to be on XDA sometimes...
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Man this is wonderful a i cant wait for your patch,but twrp,i remember you created a patch called light patch and aroma installer on that worjs with our device,[email protected] he created carbon rom and twrp for G8141 so carbon works for us but twrp not.

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dude send your paypal account, dinner on me <3
cant wait to see this baby up and running
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grodri19721 said:
Yes I agree we all should donate for all the hard work and time invested yes send me your PayPal address
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That makes Me very glad and proud, Thanks Guys! Sadly can i not use PayPal, but i would really appreciate if People would Donate to My Mother. She had a Hard Time and is now caring My Grandma which is diseased. I think she would be very thankful and happy about some Donations based on My Work here. I will talk to her and if it's ok do i share her Paypal Address on My Thread or Signatur somehow. Think that would be a nice Idea if You're also ok with that!
Blackghosthm said:
Man this is wonderful a i cant wait for your patch,but twrp,i remember you created a patch called light patch and aroma installer on that worjs with our device,[email protected] he created carbon rom and twrp for G8141 so carbon works for us but twrp not.
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Strange. I Googled a lot about this and this was always a Issues with some TWRP Recoveries. Most of the Time did it helped to use older TWRP Images but the last one gives just a Black Screen after booting into it. I will test a Copy of My old Light Patch again and take a look on whats different! Thanks for the Hint!

Miustone said:
That makes Me very glad and proud, Thanks Guys! Sadly can i not use PayPal, but i would really appreciate if People would Donate to My Mother. She had a Hard Time and is now caring My Grandma which is diseased. I think she would be very thankful and happy about some Donations based on My Work here. I will talk to her and if it's ok do i share her Paypal Address on My Thread or Signatur somehow. Think that would be a nice Idea if You're also ok with that!
Strange. I Googled a lot about this and this was always a Issues with some TWRP Recoveries. Most of the Time did it helped to use older TWRP Images but the last one gives just a Black Screen after booting into it. I will test a Copy of My old Light Patch again and take a look on whats different! Thanks for the Hint!
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If it possible release your patch for less than 5 hours because my internet time is going to end.please.

How was RAW support achieved?
From what I've seen, this wasn't possible before because there were no drivers that enabled that with the used camera chip.
And there's still one thing missing; SloMo support. Is there a chance this can be added as well?

Blackghosthm said:
If it possible release your patch for less than 5 hours because my internet time is going to end.please.
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I had trouble with the Camera Configs (Camera not starting anymore), but solved it and added more of them. Last remaining Problem are Issues with Google Service Audio (Music and Video not playing due to failing Audio Configs). Think i need more Time to solve this, but the release is close...
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How was RAW support achieved?
From what I've seen, this wasn't possible before because there were no drivers that enabled that with the used camera chip.
And there's still one thing missing; SloMo support. Is there a chance this can be added as well?
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It's all there on AOSP. Camera2 API is supported but not configured right (There are X Lines for the Cameras), i've seen the same on the Z1 and Z3 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...ussion-development-custom-rom-t3479108/page11) some Years back, and i was sure it's all depending on this right now. Other Xperias may have the same Camera Problems since AOSP is coming with just the barely minimum of Build Properties and Configs. That's also the Case on the most other Devices and AOSP based ROM and one of the Reasons for doing My Patch. Some missing Things are causing Issues (Like Microphone Problems), and others do just bring a lack of Features (Like with the Camera and Display, Audio, etc.).
It's pretty Time intense to test all this Entries and Values but it's really worth the Time. And if i would do a OS would i start with that Things before changing the Kernel and adding ROM Features, but i can only talk for Me. Not sure how much Time ROM Devs put into building of AOSP for the own Devices, but i work for sure at least 40 Hours on One Major Release of My Patch (Including copying, flashing, testing and editing).
AROMA was also really Time Intense but i removed the Installer over Night and edited the Updater Script to flash the recommended Options without it. Here is a little List of what gets flashed:
-Original Oreo Pixel Bootanimation
-Original Oreo Pixel Ringtones, Alarms, Notifications
-HTC U 11 UI Sounds, Ringtones, Alarms, Notifications
-Prop Patch (Including many changes and Configs)
-Snappatch Core System (Including the mainly needed Content)
-Snappatch Audio System (Based on XZ Premium Oreo Stock)
-Snappatch Emojis (EmojiOne replacement Font)
-Magisk Stable V16
-Busybox with many Applets, SElinux & Magisk Support
-GApps (Barely minimum Set)
And that's it for now. It includes all of the Features of the Patch, less optional but i can ensure a great Experience with this Setup! Like said am i now about to fix the last Bugs which are Audio Config related and after that will come the Thread with the new Release. Hope You will like it Folks!
BR

Stupid xda -__-

Keep up the good work brother

I'm done for now! Release is in the next 24 Hours...
Changelog can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ak5DsenMjuSyypPBAjQact6MhtsE2MRFlvCHLTn9uHA/edit?usp=sharing
I removed the Audio System for now due to Issues with Xperias AOSP ROMs but i'll work on it again after releasing the actual Patch. Sounds already a lot better even without the replacement Libs and Configs! Stay tuned...

Sony 8142 dual SIM ?? Please

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Yes

can't wait to have a try.
bro you've contributed a lot to our device
Thank you so much!