Is it possible to develop a ROM for the G4 and G4 Plus with arm64 libraries since the Snapdragon 617 is an arm64 SoC?
You don't have drivers for that (camera for example).
Also, it's stupid.
I had the Asus Zenfone Laser 2 - S615, 4GB of RAM. It had the 64 bit Android. Well, all the apps took much more space in the memory (1.5x times more in average) - this is in both storage (internal SD) and in the actual RAM. So sure, I could "see" the full 4GB of memory, but the actual "free" memory was less (or at best equal) than what I have now in Moto G4 Plus.
There was no speed advantage when tested, compared with other S615 chips. That's normal since on both S615 and S617 the data bus is 32 bit only.
Only the S810 and higher have a data bus of 64 bit, but still, without at least 6GB of RAM, the 64 bit OS makes no sense...
and motorola sources are 32bits
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just ran CpuZ on my Exynos model and it indicates:
Total Ram 3580MB (1190 available at the time of the test)
Internal storage 24.86GB
I know about the 1000 vs 1024 story, but even with that in mind, those figures look quiet far from the numbers announced (4GB & 32GB) by Samsung???
fastmike said:
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just ran CpuZ on my Exynos model and it indicates:
Total Ram 3580MB (1190 available at the time of the test)
Internal storage 24.86GB
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I'd also like an explanation. I've no doubt there are 4gb of memory soldered onto the motherboard, but I'd like to know why only 3.5gb are reported available.
In 32-bit days, before Lollipop and ArmV8 architecture, devices always reported a maximum of 3.5gb available because that was all that could be used on a 32-bit system. I'm wondering if this ram reporting issue is due to some kind of 32-bit limitation on our 64-bit devices.
If anyone really knows the technical reasons for this, I'd like to understand what's going on, just to satisfy my curiosity.
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Is some of the RAM reserved for the graphics chip, like a PC has system RAM and video RAM for the GPU?
Some of the RAM around 512mb is allocated to the GPU, and for the storage, 8gb is used for android system partition
I saw this phone has 2.5 GB of ram and i read that it is because it has the other part for the system but i have also a Nexus 6 and it runs smoother.
This phone doesn't have better multitasking and i think it is for the missing part of RAM memory.
Moto X Pure has 700MB of Android OS
Nexus 6 has 478MB...
I have tried CM13 and Stock and truepure.
No.
That is not...
Just no...
Our phones have 3gb Android pre allocates as much RAM as it can the best solutions to your issue is just load a custom ROM if you go with asop based 6.0.1 it will mostly make this phone a Nexus
One way to look at it...
Why does your GB variant (16, 32, 64) not actually have that much available storage? The system is allocated some of this storage. RAM is no different.
As far as system allocation differing between different phones, there are potentially several reasons. Remember that the MXPE is not pure vanilla with Moto having some of their stuff baked in. This can make the difference. Also differences in Android version can be a culprit along with differences in any custom ROMs.
Some is likely allocated for the GPU, also there is zram (think swap in RAM or compressed VM, much faster than disk r/w), etc...
yes , i am with stock rom and just rooted , there is 2.5gb ram and free available always around 350 to 500mb maximum available , it does restart apps in 5 or 6 apps multitasking
Android OS size is more in moto g4 plus device when we compare with other android devices like android one phone.. almost taking 4GB more memory in moto g4 plus device.
Can i know reason for the same?
Thanks & Regards,
Jamili.
6.62 GB is normal. It's around the same as Google Pixel and less than Nexus 6P (where Android OS uses 7+ GB).
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Android OS size is more in moto g4 plus device when we compare with other android devices like android one phone.. almost taking 4GB more memory in moto g4 plus device.
Can i know reason for the same?
Thanks & Regards,
Jamili.
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As I understand, android does not consume 6.62 GB, but it merely shows so to help the user to easily understand the usable space on the internal storage.
A 32GB drive/card/memory will only have about 29.2 GB of usable space. In case you don't know why, it's mostly because the manufacturers and OS use different systems for measurement of storage space. And some space is used up when the memory is formatted as NTFS, FAT etc. (That's why different memory cards of same capacity have slightly different usable space, depending on the formatting)
Coming back to the original point, the usable capacity of the phone's internal memory is 29.2 GB for the 32 GB model. 25.38 GB of it is available for sdcard0 (app data, media, other files etc).
So, the memory used up by the android system is 29.2 - 25.38 = 3.82 GB. This comprises of the apps and OS files.
P.S : The numbers may/may not be slightly incorrect, but you get the idea.
And if I went wrong anywhere, please point it out.
Could you please check Android OS size in android one device and Moto G4 plus device.
Could you please check Android OS size in android one device and Moto G4 plus device.
harith.unnikrishnan said:
As I understand, android does not consume 6.62 GB, but it merely shows so to help the user to easily understand the usable space on the internal storage.
A 32GB drive/card/memory will only have about 29.2 GB of usable space. In case you don't know why, it's mostly because the manufacturers and OS use different systems for measurement of storage space. And some space is used up when the memory is formatted as NTFS, FAT etc. (That's why different memory cards of same capacity have slightly different usable space, depending on the formatting)
Coming back to the original point, the usable capacity of the phone's internal memory is 29.2 GB for the 32 GB model. 25.38 GB of it is available for sdcard0 (app data, media, other files etc).
So, the memory used up by the android system is 29.2 - 25.38 = 3.82 GB. This comprises of the apps and OS files.
P.S : The numbers may/may not be slightly incorrect, but you get the idea.
And if I went wrong anywhere, please point it out.
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Could you please check Android OS size in android one device and Moto G4 plus device.
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I don't have an Android One.
Like OnePlus 5
is the 8GB version = 4GB + 4GB of RAM ? or Single 8GB ?
and 6GB version, is it 2GB + 4GB ? or single 6GB ?
the qualcomm 835 page does not tell any useful-related info to this question
neither OnePlus 5 specs page
they only show:
Memory Speed
1866MHz
Memory Type
Dual-Channel
LPDDR4x
I don't understand your question... it has 6GB or 8GB of RAM, what difference does it make if it's two 4GB chips or 8GB (or four 2GB chips), or a 2GB and 4GB or a single 6GB chip (or three 2GB chips)? If you are referring to the "dual-channel" thing, then you should look into what that technology is, but it could easily be implemented in a single chip if it was specifically designed for that. Mobiles rarely use "off the shelf" components and are chips are often specifically designed for applications as needed.
This is pretty much off topic for this area anyway, probably more appropriate to ask in the OnePlus 5 group.
hi , I am building an extreme desktop computer and I have an i9 13900ks. I want to know what model of ram memory, mhz, cl, ns, I have to install, so as not to have a bottleneck between the microprocessor and the ram memory, I can buy at any price
To get the most out of your Intel Core i9-13900KS processor, you should look for DDR5 RAM with a high frequency and low latency.
Since DDR5 is a new technology, there are not many options available on the market yet. However, you should aim for a RAM frequency of at least 4800MHz and a CAS latency (CL) of 34 or lower.
Some manufacturers, such as Kingston, are already offering DDR5 RAM with speeds of up to 6000MHz, which would be even better for your build. However, keep in mind that these high-speed DDR5 RAM modules are currently quite expensive.
In terms of timing, you should aim for a memory module with a clock cycle time (tCK) of 16.67 nanoseconds (ns) or lower. This will ensure that your RAM is fast enough to keep up with your processor.
Finally, it's important to ensure that your motherboard is compatible with DDR5 RAM. The Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX DDR5 motherboard you mentioned in your previous question is compatible with DDR5 RAM, so you should be good to go in that regard.
The ddr4 memories are the lowest latency of CL 7, on the other hand, the ddr5 has the minimum CL 10, the ddr5 will be faster but it has a lot of latency, the ddr4 has more performance
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