Ok, there is plenty of speculation on Android and can we run it on our HTC devices, etc. I have started this new thread dedicated to the MSM7K Kernel release, and what it will take to get this running on our phones.
I would like this thread to become a resource, rather than just general theorizing. For example: "I know we need driver X to run Y on HTC device Foo." What I am not looking for: "Android is so l33t, plez tell me how to run on my Zaurus kthx". The difference is that the first example is constructive, and adds to the discussion.
The signal to noise ratio on the Android gGroup is terrible, and mostly consists of wild theorizing, self-promotion, and arguing. I have a feeling it will improve, but for now I'd like to discuss this subject away from all the SuperKoolNewAndroidForum.com forums.
My Goals for this Thread:
Establish what is known to work, and what the kernel is sorely lacking.
a) I know we have booted Linux on HTC devices, has it been done on the most current devices? (please link to thread/proof)
b) What are the main major roadblocks preventing Linux from being run on more HTC devices? (Obscure hardware design, bricking phone)
Compile a list of needed and helpful software for loading Android: bootloaders, useful Linux tools, filesystem images
Provide continual updates with photos/logs as we (hopefully) make progress
My bet is that the current 'gPhone' in the videos is an HTC device not unlike yours or mine. [link to my blog] IMHO, the hype over 'When will the first gPhone be released' is irrelevant, as Google has been working closely with HTC and Qualcomm for a long time -- and the specs for Android are so low, Google clearly expects to be able to run Android on existing hardware, without needing new hardware technology.
Of course, the tools and software we need are all in existence already, someone at Google is doing a good job of keeping their mouth shut. Therefore this is not an impossible task, just difficult, but I know you xda-hackers like a challenge! So, Let's go!!
Charles
FYI: I am aware XDA was founded with the Xanadux project, so this should be the perfect place to hack us a gPhone. I've also browsed threads, read the Wiki, studied up on the Hermes Linux project -- but things seem to have died since Feb 07, I'm hoping this latest development with Android will spark interest again, and we will be able to run Linux on our current, most powerful devices. I could make educated guesses about the state of the Xanadux project, but I'd rather hear it from XDA devs themselves who are most familiar.
Reserved for knowledge & files
Ok, I'll start:
Android.com *Now redirects (finally) to OpenHandsetAlliance.com
Download Android SDK
Official Android Dev gGroup
Here's what I know:
Announcement of the Kernel on the ARM Linux Mailing List
GIT Repository
gGroup for MSM7K Kernel Issues
[credit to Brian Swetland, Linux Kernel Lead, Android Project]
gGroups thread: Compiling C Binaries for Android
Filesystem dump from Android running on SDK Emulator: gGroups thread discussion | Benno's blog post with files
reserved for Android installation instructions
[ reserved ] Hopefully we will get this far
polyrhythmic said:
I've also browsed threads, read the Wiki, studied up on the Hermes Linux project -- but things seem to have died since Feb 07
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If you are interested in the facts, and not some google-related hype, please
check this one
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus
My Android News blog (now on Russian language)
English version cooming soon.
http://android.my1.ru
Now it is under construction
Much thanks cr2!
n00bs are everywhere I'm trying not to be one of them.
I have been doing a lot of reading, things have been quiet on the Kaiser front but that soon will change. I just read the #htc-linux logs from the past few days, see you there after work!
Charles
(sent from das Kaiser)
WoW!
Is this going to be like getting Linux OS on my Trinity? I like the browser but a lot of the apps in teh demo vid rely too much on 3G. Data rates in the UK are prohibitive at the moment so I stick with WIFI
welcome to join AndroidPort group
hello:
you are welcome to join the AndroidPort group, where the
idea is to make Linux and Android work on a real or virtual
hardware phone platform.
looks like you are quite advanced in this area. we would
welcome your presence and expert knowledge.
have a look at our website. you will find a lot of
information for this subject in 1 place.
AndroidPort
http://groups.google.com/group/androidport
Aaron
Cool initiative, will write about it in my next News collection.
polyrhythmic said:
Ok, there is plenty of speculation on Android and can we run it on our HTC devices, etc. I have started this new thread dedicated to the MSM7K Kernel release, and what it will take to get this running on our phones.
I would like this thread to become a resource, rather than just general theorizing. For example: "I know we need driver X to run Y on HTC device Foo." What I am not looking for: "Android is so l33t, plez tell me how to run on my Zaurus kthx". The difference is that the first example is constructive, and adds to the discussion.
The signal to noise ratio on the Android gGroup is terrible, and mostly consists of wild theorizing, self-promotion, and arguing. I have a feeling it will improve, but for now I'd like to discuss this subject away from all the SuperKoolNewAndroidForum.com forums.
My Goals for this Thread:
Establish what is known to work, and what the kernel is sorely lacking.
a) I know we have booted Linux on HTC devices, has it been done on the most current devices? (please link to thread/proof)
b) What are the main major roadblocks preventing Linux from being run on more HTC devices? (Obscure hardware design, bricking phone)
Compile a list of needed and helpful software for loading Android: bootloaders, useful Linux tools, filesystem images
Provide continual updates with photos/logs as we (hopefully) make progress
My bet is that the current 'gPhone' in the videos is an HTC device not unlike yours or mine. [link to my blog] IMHO, the hype over 'When will the first gPhone be released' is irrelevant, as Google has been working closely with HTC and Qualcomm for a long time -- and the specs for Android are so low, Google clearly expects to be able to run Android on existing hardware, without needing new hardware technology.
Of course, the tools and software we need are all in existence already, someone at Google is doing a good job of keeping their mouth shut. Therefore this is not an impossible task, just difficult, but I know you xda-hackers like a challenge! So, Let's go!!
Charles
FYI: I am aware XDA was founded with the Xanadux project, so this should be the perfect place to hack us a gPhone. I've also browsed threads, read the Wiki, studied up on the Hermes Linux project -- but things seem to have died since Feb 07, I'm hoping this latest development with Android will spark interest again, and we will be able to run Linux on our current, most powerful devices. I could make educated guesses about the state of the Xanadux project, but I'd rather hear it from XDA devs themselves who are most familiar.
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where is the video?
anheuer said:
where is the video?
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YouTube Your best friend , along with google obviously
Hey Devs,
After years of being into mobiles I want to start developing my own Apps.
I want to specifically program Apps for Android because I really like how Android is set up. the way it handles "closed application" and ofcoursebecause more and more people are getting an Android.
Now I'm not sure what the best way to start is.
How did you guys start developing for android?
Which books did you used?
I hear a lot of people telling me I have to start with Java, now I get Java at school but how much Java is enough to start in android? do I have to go as far as BufferedReaders and Swing or just the basics of Java?
I found this book: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/eband3/hello-android
That seems really interesting because it covers Android 2.1, does anyone have any experience with this book?
Or any other book?
All help is welcome!
I really want to make a good start in the world of Android programming
and what to get it at such a level I can actually develop programs in a company.
Thanks in Advance,
//Sterallure
Can nobody help me out with this?
As long as you know most of the fundametals of java programming learning android api and libraries should'nt be all that hard. I'd start by going to the developer.android.com learn how to install the android SDK and Eclipese, also read through the dev guide. Hello, Android latest Edition is a pretty good book for beginners, beginning android 2. as you get better move to pro android 2, or what ever you think will fit your needs. There is enough information online such as developer.android.com, forums, and tutorials that can help you learn android without having to buy a book.
I have to agree. I am no crack programmer, but there have been tutorials or sample code around the internet for almost everything I wanted to do. Especially forums and blogs. Google is my friend.
Thanks alot for the information I will also look into Beginning Android 2. I've read a couple of dev guides but I always really like reading books.
I just want a really good basic knowledge of Android programming itself and I think the API will come later, if I just know how to program somenthing then the API is helpful for creating new things
Programming for Android is basically using the Android API's
I suggest www.commonsware.com books. Its a $40 subscription and you get 4 books(Android Programming, Advanced Android Programming, Android Programming Tutorials, and Android Beyond Java) that are updated periodically. Its really a great deal. I have it and I've learned so much and also the author is very active on stackoverflow and also writes many articles on android.
I came across this on KS the other day and it seemed like something I would be into as I have dabbled in programming here and there, but never have really committed myself to applying what I know.
Didn't know where to post it on XDA, but thought this was as fitting a place as any where interested individuals might come across it.
Mobile Android Development: Beginner to Professional
Paul (who has ported Mupen64 to android) seems to have some interesting ideas in store for his course.
After a LONG ... LONG ... time of working in the background of the android community (mainly on Sony AOSP stuff) I have started to put together some short blog style posts on medium that will be focused on developing applications and systems with the new Android Things platform. These posts will cover everything from starting your very first Android Things project all the way up to complex (and hopefully useful) connected devices. I have just published the 1st in this series (link below) and with any luck will have the 2nd one out by the end of next week.
1 . Android Things : Getting Started
2 . Android Things : Building Your 1st Connected App & Server (Hope this will be out before the end of next week .... title WIP)
Cheers !
Bumble-Bee
I recently came across Calyx OS and really it a lot over the traditional android OS as it offers us so many privacy options which we were supposed to have from the start. As I'm not really good at porting or making OS, I would like to ask other fellow members who have any information on porting an OS to our device to try and port this particular OS as it would bring us some features which we have all been looking forward for so many times.
Here's the link to the website. At present it's available for mostly google pixel.
CalyxOS
calyxos.org