Question for Amazon Offers G4 Owners - Moto G4 Questions & Answers

I don't have the G4, but I'm considering snagging up the G5 Plus. I have Amazon Prime and very interested in the Amazon Offers version to save a few bucks.
My one hesitation is if Android updates are released slower for it than the stock version (dont care about the locked bootloader). While that G5 hasn't been out long enough to know for it specifically, I figured I'd ask those with the Amazon Offers G4.
So, those of you who have it, have updates been released at the same time as stock? For example, it looks like Nougat is available now. Was that released at the same time for both phones?
Thanks!

No, some Moto G4 Amazon Prime users are still waiting for their security patch -64 and the OTA upgrade to Android 7.0

And to confirm, all those on stock have received these updates?

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G4-Moto-G4-Plus-Moto-G4/Nougat-update-news-for-ALL-G4/m-p/3640324#M21948

Don't get ANY prime/amazon offers G-series phones anymore. It used to be (pre-December) that you could unlock the 32GB variant's bootloader and flash custom ROMs.
No longer.
AND, given Motorola's complete apathy regarding updates with this phone (and, probably the G5), you should definitely get a G5/G4 with an unlocked BL.

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Moto G discontinued (Flipkart confirms remaining stock is the last)

Moto G2 is set to be announced on the September 4 event internationally, Indian announcement to follow on September 5 at New Delhi. It was a question whether Motorola would discontinue the moto g in favor of G2. Flipkart now announced that they are conducting the sale [of the] last stock of Moto G. So it is confirmed that the Moto G will be discontinued and its place will be taken by the Moto G2.
Moto G has been hugely successful in India. Moto announced that it sold over 1 million handsets through Flipkart till June. Moto is now the 4th biggest smartphone company in India, ahead of Nokia. They achieved this by just 3 handsets, most of the nmbers is because of Moto G.
Moto recently slashed Moto G’s price by Rs.2000 due to recent increase in competition (read Xiaomi Mi 3 and Asus Zenfone 5), making it more attractive for buyers and a nicer deal. Moto G 8gb model recently got out of stock recently and have not been replenished till now. It is to be expected that it was the last stock of Moto G 8gb version. Now, with Flipkart’s ‘Get yours before it’s gone!’ sale, it might be your last chance to get a Moto G.
Moto G2 has been in news and leaks for some time. In case you don’t know, G2 is said to feature a 5-inch 720p display with the same snapdragon 400 processor coupled with 1GB ram. Camera units might be a 5 or 8 megapixel primary with 2 megapixel secondary. It is also said to feature dual front speakers like the htc One. The price might be slightly higher than the Moto G.
Moto G 16gb is set to go out of stock soon and will be permanently unavailable soon. Flipkart is also offering 50% off on Moto G accessories in favor of clearing out stock. It is the best and last time you can get your Moto G, Buy it now or never!
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http://www.gadgetraid.com/2014/08/last-stock-of-moto-g-flipkart​
I suppose the good news is that Moto G 2 appears to be essentially the same hardware as Original Moto G. That should mean it won't take much more work for Motorola to create versions of Android 'L' that work on both devices.
I don't care if this or that is discontinued, I just wish my little fellow gets a taste of Android L... Hope to see a new notification saying "New system update available".. That's all I want.. :crying:
Android L will be the last system update for moto g for sure.. In the future, when android M and N comes out, we will have to look at Cyanogen to have a new custom firmware...
Well,this is sad,because this device is highly known and a great quality device. I think it deserves to get android L at least,and for future updates we cant rely on Cyanogenmod,because currently do not have a high support. I dont know who this guy Ethan Chen is,but i know that dhacker is a great dev,and his support was better. I'm 99.9% shure that he would port L and future updates if he was an offical maintainer.
So in conclusion,we just need barebone android L image and the majority of us will be satisfied.
The Moto G will get the Android L upgrade and i guarantee it. Motorola is still not fully with Lenovo yet. And i read since that Moto's software is near AOSP it should be easy for them to upgrade us soon, but since the Moto G2 is coming out we may get it like a week or two later. Remember how we got kitkat on December 24 even though Motorola said it was coming early 2014 or something like that?
bummer... many people have bought moto g on my recommendation. they are going to kill me.
lets hope android l is in cards and custom roms continue to flourish... cant upgrade my phone yearly
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Well,this is sad,because this device is highly known and a great quality device. I think it deserves to get android L at least,and for future updates we cant rely on Cyanogenmod,because currently do not have a high support. I dont know who this guy Ethan Chen is,but i know that dhacker is a great dev,and his support was better. I'm 99.9% shure that he would port L and future updates if he was an offical maintainer.
So in conclusion,we just need barebone android L image and the majority of us will be satisfied.
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That's true, since this is a worldwide well known device, it should receive L, because it would be a great hit between customers. But if you think, maybe if falcon is discontinued, for Motorola won't be necessary to upgrade the device to L since moto g won't be available anymore.
But, if Motorola wants to be recognized as one of the best device maintainers talking about updates, they must consider upgrade falcon to L. Then, Motorola users, with no doubt, will gen a moto in the future instead of buying another phone.
Larger screen on g2 with same resolution translates to lower PPI. Only significant change is the camera.
I actually bought the g for the smaller screen and 720p quality . I already have the s3 and s4 which are slightly uncomfortable to hold in one hand due to their larger screens . I also have the moto e which is as good as the g. You won't find much difference in the moto g and e for daily use except if you need the front camera for video calls then moto g does not have it . Sorry for being slightly OT .
moto g will get android l
abhifx said:
bummer... many people have bought moto g on my recommendation. they are going to kill me.
lets hope android l is in cards and custom roms continue to flourish... cant upgrade my phone yearly
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Don't worry moto g will get stock Android l,motorola germany said that it will upgrade the moto g & x first to Android L..till now no words about Moto e about the future upgrade
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That's really sad that they have just discontinued their one of the best selling handsets...
but i just want that MOTOROLA keeps doing the good work by pushing more updates for our moto g
XdroidBD said:
That's really sad that they have just discontinued their one of the best selling handsets...
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They aren't discontinuing it until they release the Moto G2. So it isn't like you won't be able to get one for the same similar price and hardware.
bozzykid said:
They aren't discontinuing it until they release the Moto G2. So it isn't like you won't be able to get one for the same similar price and hardware.
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Yes they are (May be in India for now), Flipkart is the exclusive online retailer for Moto g in India. They confirmed and is now selling the last stocks they have from Moto. **sale is still going on**
yesabhijith said:
Yes they are (May be in India for now), Flipkart is the exclusive online retailer for Moto g in India. They confirmed and is now selling the last stocks they have from Moto. **sale is still going on**
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Yes, and the Moto G2 is coming out in a few weeks. So there is no great loss. This is what happens when new generations of phones come out.
bozzykid said:
Yes, and the Moto G2 is coming out in a few weeks. So there is no great loss. This is what happens when new generations of phones come out.
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isn't it a loss for someone looking for a good small sized handset? Not everyone is the fan of a 5-inch device.Right?
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isn't it a loss for someone looking for a good small sized handset? Not everyone is the fan of a 5-inch device.Right?
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Sure. But if the phone size itself is the same, I think most people will be fine with it.
So one company announces it will stop selling Moto G's in favour of the G2 and the community think that is equivalent to the G being discontinued? Oh, by the way, here in the UK, carphone warehouse have listed the Moto G in their stores as "new". Just for the record.
djpailo said:
So one company announces it will stop selling Moto G's in favour of the G2 and the community think that is equivalent to the G being discontinued? Oh, by the way, here in the UK, carphone warehouse have listed the Moto G in their stores as "new". Just for the record.
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Flipkart is the only retailer in India that sells the moto g.
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Sure. But if the phone size itself is the same, I think most people will be fine with it.
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May be. But the leaked images shows a slightly bigger phone right? Bezels are also not that thin like G3. So how can you expect a device of similar size?

Buying a Moto G4, what are the pros and cons of flashing with different rom?

I'm comfortable flashing phones and tablets, so that's not an issue. I'm just wondering what makes a custom rom better than the software that comes stock.
I'm buying the Moto G4 from ConsumerCellular for $150, btw. Same price as Amazon and, as far as I can tell, no lockscreen ads.
leetwanker said:
I'm comfortable flashing phones and tablets, so that's not an issue. I'm just wondering what makes a custom rom better than the software that comes stock.
I'm buying the Moto G4 from ConsumerCellular for $150, btw. Same price as Amazon and, as far as I can tell, no lockscreen ads.
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It will come with the Consumer Cellular app but no ads and it is the 16GB model. The G3 Motos they sold were rootable so I'm guessing the G4 is also. As for the software, it's hard to beat stock for overall performance and battery life, especially if you root and tweak it a little.

Will nougat be released for all models at the same time?

As the title say: will the upcoming nougat update be released at the same time for all the different models (U, G, etc)?
I couldn't find this info anywhere, and I think is a legit question considering the different development cycle that the different models had until now.
On a side note, I think it would be great if they merged the development for all the models in a single build.
Probably not, but around similar times yes.
ZTE Germany confirmed that it will be pushed out for everyone the same time. But I guess this is not possible because of servers.
Considering rumours and unofficial statements from either ZTE Germany and ZTE USA, both the U and G model will get the update before the end of January. I don't know about the Chinese version tough...
So yes it will be released at approximately the same time (give or take a week).

what is the most comparable to the Moto X Pure

My uncle right now has the G5 and he says he hates it. he likes my phone alot but i said to him there are others that are newer and probably better (not to say i wouldnt tell him to buy the moto x pure, but that he has alot of options with gsm compared to sprint). He has Tmobile for now so i guess any GSM that is closest to the moto x and unlocked. what would you recommend and why?
he said specifically he likes my phone because of the feel of the phone, the lightness and the speedy os.
personally i dont like recommending him things like Huawei or ZTE because im suspicious of chinese made phones but i want to hear what you have to say
ZTE Axon 7 is a pretty solid device... I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one of those, or the Axon 7 Mini as a replacement for the Moto G series devices.
Another good choice would be the OnePlus 3T.
Most other devices by Samsung and LG are too bloated and skinned to heavily for my taste, I hesitate to recommend them.
I really like the HTC 10, goes back to my first real Android "love", but it's a bit pricey. The Google Pixel line is great, but again they are pricey and sometimes tough to find in stock.
Remember that retailers like Best Buy and B&H Photo still carry the Moto X Pure in stock for $299-$349.
Mobile world congress is literally in a few days (Feb 27). See what is available after that. Personally I'm looking forward to the Moto G5 (an upgrade to the Moto G4 which is also a great phone) which I will probably purchase for my wife. The Moto G5 plus is supposed to have a Sony IMX362 camera sensor which is really great, battery-sipping Snapdragon 625, and a 5.2" screen (my wife doesn't like big screens) so I think it'll be awesome. Plus it's Motorola so it'll have little to no bloat.
Honestly I'm surprised that your uncle hates the LG G5, it's a flagship after all with a snapdragon 820 and 4GB ram it should be pretty snappy. At least comparable to the Moto X Pure. He should just keep his phone, maybe wipe it and start fresh or try a new ROM if possible.
Also, hate to break it to you, Motorola is owned by Lenovo which is Chinese. I think Apple Samsung and LG are the only non-Chinese smartphones left.
I thought the latest rumors were the G5 would have the 5.2" screen and the G5 Plus is a 5.5".
Personally, after seeing how Lenovo treats updates/upgrades on my Moto G 2015 and X Pure over the last year, I will likely not buy another Moto device... Really it's a Lenovo device with the Moto name on it (Lenovo has confirmed ALL their smartphones will soon be carrying the Moto name). I am sure the G5 will be a decent device, but Lenovo has ruined it for me. Especially since I see my son's Axon 7 Mini gets regular security updates every single month only a week or two old.
@acejavelin Honestly the problem is Lenovo just doesn't care about the phones that were already in production before they purchased Motorola. Their newer phones that have launched since the merger ( Moto g4, Moto z) have had excellent support. Yes I'm a bit upset about the lack of support too but that's just how life goes sometimes. Have you tried lineageOS yet? I'm running the latest nightly and it's fantastic. Android 7.1.1, extremely fast, everything works well, 3+ hours SOT (up from 2.5 on stock marshmallow). lineageOS also comes unrooted so you can still use apps that don't like root (like pokemon Go).
As far as the G5 rumors, the latest rumors are 5.0" screen for the G5 and 5.2" screen for the G5 plus. Both full HD. Snapdragon 430 for the G5 and 625 for the G5 plus.
I actually went with the Axon 7. It's a really solid device. Runs really smooth good battery life. Very inexpensive compared to other flagship devices. The only thing I don't like about it, is that its not technically supported by Verizon. It's a nightmare to try to change anything with them.

Moto G5 Plus recommendations

Hey guys! Don't kill me for asking all these questions, but..
I'm currently using a Nexus 5x, but it's gone bad (Melts chargers, usb data connection melted, etc)
I'm really interested in the Moto G5 Plus, but, I'm having difficulties finding it in person, so i intend to order one online!
So my questions go:
I have only seen two varients, a 32GB-2GB, and a 64GB-4GB. Is this it? Are they all "Potter" And will work with this rom?
Is the bootloader difficult to unlock? i see some kind of scrubber and pasting of data on a website i found.. seems kinda simple but i wanna be sure ♥
Is it safe to buy one on Amazon? The 32GB Variant is currently on sale. Is it safe to use the "Moto Maker"?
I see "DTV for XT1683 model" is broken. What is "DTV" and which model is XT1683?
Thanks for your consideration! ♥
EDIT: Too late, bought the 64GB Varient from Amazon. Wish me luck!
I just picked one up for my wife and have been pleasantly surprised. Of course we are coming from 3 yr old phones, so anything is an upgrade. Having the finger print reader, fast charge, adequate camera (certainly better than the LG G3 camera), unlockable boot loader, etc all for $180 for the non ad 32gb version I feel it is an incredible bargain.
I hope you got the non-ad version from Amazon as you cannot unlock the boot loader on the ad version. That is the only issue to watch out for. You can get rid of the ads on the ad version, but there is currently isn't a method to unlock the boot loader (and likely never will be).
Enjoy!
Bunie89 said:
EDIT: Too late, bought the 64GB Varient from Amazon. Wish me luck!
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Which G5 Plus did you buy? The cheaper Amazon subsidized version or the slightly more expensive non amazon subsidized version?
If you bought the Amazon subsidized version just note that the root process will likely be different than the non subsidized version. See this link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/resolved-root-moto-g5-plus-amazon-t3652932
Its a good phone with one or two issues however. Moto is apparently rolling out today a potential fix (see this post in their support subforums) for the poor/garbled audio on Verizon, no word yet if it works or if it fixes any of the other issues (like low volume on headset) the phone has.

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