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Despite my attempts to block the OTA update, my fire now has 5.3.2. It definitely lags compared to the previous firmware version. Does anyone known if it can be downgraded via ABD without bricking?
gbennett said:
Despite my attempts to block the OTA update, my fire now has 5.3.2. It definitely lags compared to the previous firmware version. Does anyone known if it can be downgraded via ABD without bricking?
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I have read and was able to downgrade my 2015 Fire HD 7 from 5.3.2.0 to 5.3.1.0. Then I was able to install a CM Rom.
I also have the new HD 8 2016, but I am not sure if the downgrade will work.
Just bought a the HD 8 2016 since it is on sale (today) for $59 at Best Buy and THOUGHT I read it can be rooted, later learned it's only the older model that can be rooted. Really don't want an Android device that will remain unable to be rooted, so, might have to take it back even at that cheap price?
Would love to have a custom ROM on this tablet!
critofur said:
Just bought a the HD 8 2016 since it is on sale (today) for $59 at Best Buy and THOUGHT I read it can be rooted, later learned it's only the older model that can be rooted. Really don't want an Android device that will remain unable to be rooted, so, might have to take it back even at that cheap price?
Would love to have a custom ROM on this tablet!
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I bought it knowing that it can't be rooted at the moment. But I'm going to block updates with openDNS and cross my fingers for a future root method. Still a pretty good tablet for the money and the Play Store works too. However, I still love my cheap, year-old Fire 7" with CM 12.1 the most despite the screen resolution.
What steps are required to block updates with openDNS? Would like to try it on Fire 8, 6th gen.
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What steps are required to block updates with openDNS? Would like to try it on Fire 8, 6th gen.
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I used this method for my Fire TVs, and it appears to work on the Fire tabs too.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-bloc...-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/#opendns
Thanks. Looks like this could work on devices that don't leave home network.
Hopefully this Fire HD 8 tablet 6th generation - 2016 can be rooted in near future. Better to block the OTA updates. By the way, can someone pin-point the codename for this device ? That is similar to KFFOWI_Ford for 7'' Fire-2015.
kesavan2000in said:
Hopefully this Fire HD 8 tablet 6th generation - 2016 can be rooted in near future. Better to block the OTA updates. By the way, can someone pin-point the codename for this device ? That is similar to KFFOWI_Ford for 7'' Fire-2015.
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As I was trying KingRoot today it said the code for this one is "KFGIWI"
And I also saw another thread that stated KFGIWI_GI
A contributor is reporting that his tablet has updated to Fire OS 5.3.3.0.
Original thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/5-3-2-1-root-t3547136/post71468187
Photo confirmation: https://goo.gl/bFQ5o5
Reply here if/when your devices update, and what you notice about 5.3.3.0.
As of yet, it's not listed on the Download Page for the Fire 5th Gen, but you can download the Source Code for 5.3.3.0 on the Fire 5th Gen.
I've been checking everyday for a week or more, and haven't seen it download yet. I tried a factory reset, and it downloaded everything else, but those were all minor app updates.
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As of yet, it's not listed on the Download Page for the Fire 5th Gen, but you can download the Source Code for 5.3.3.0 on the Fire 5th Gen.
I've been checking everyday for a week or more, and haven't seen it download yet. I tried a factory reset, and it downloaded everything else, but those were all minor app updates.
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Early rollouts typically target specific serial numbers. Reset all you want; the update will only come when Amazon decides it's ready.
I've 5 tablets with cracked screens which I bought as part of a job lot for testing and repair. Had my router blocking updates. I've just disabled that and checked for the update and it's come through for one of the 5 tablets.
It would appear Davey is right the update is coming through based on Serial number rather than region as I thought it might.
Going to test to see if it can be rooted.
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I've 5 tablets with cracked screens which I bought as part of a job lot for testing and repair. Had my router blocking updates. I've just disabled that and checked for the update and it's come through for one of the 5 tablets.
It would appear Davey is right the update is coming through based on Serial number rather than region as I thought it might.
Going to test to see if it can be rooted.
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Updated March 22, 2017 10:18pm
As I was updating my DNS to block updates from amazon. when my fire got updated to 5.3.3.0.
Put DNS block in place. Should keep me on 5.3.3.0
FireOs 5.3.3 Release Notes:
* Low Power mode - Optimize your device's display settings to conserve power. The mode turns off automatically when your Fire is charging.
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I have Google Apps (Google Play, Chrome, Youtube), Nova Launcher and Launcher Hijack working on it.
Kingroot fails a little after %60
Unable to root so far. Will try every couple of days. It'll be interesting to compare the boot files of the OS image to that of the previous release.
Hopefully they've the same build value and a downgrade is possible if in the event 5.3.2.1 is rooted first.
My 2016 HD 8 received the update Sunday morning the 19th. Havent noticed anything new, except it may be a slight bit snappier. I did have to log into amazon and turn off lock screen ads even though my Fire was purchased with the no ads option. Doesnt seem to have affcted play store or any of my downloaded apps.
One out of two updated here today.
flic.kr/p/RZuWuz
If someone can get the file before it installs, could they upload it somewhere and link it here?
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My Fire 7 with 5.3.3.0 does seem a bit snappier as well. I can't wait for my 2016 HD 8 to get the update since it seems so sluggish to me.
I got a notification on the Fire 7 this morning suggesting that I uninstall Kingroot as it might damage my device. Anyone else get a message like this? Is Kingroot potentially damaging?
Mine updated to 5.3.3.0 early this AM. Usually mine's one of the last to get the update so hopefully, a lot of you will be getting it today.
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My Fire 7 with 5.3.3.0 does seem a bit snappier as well. I can't wait for my 2016 HD 8 to get the update since it seems so sluggish to me.
I got a notification on the Fire 7 this morning suggesting that I uninstall Kingroot as it might damage my device. Anyone else get a message like this? Is Kingroot potentially damaging?
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KingRoot is borderline crapware that we use simply because there are no other alternatives. As for 'damaging' depends on your definition. Hardware - no. Capturing personal information and potentially interfering with the operation of other apps - your call.
I haven't been sent the update yet for my Fire 7, 5th Generation. I am correct to assume the files on the source code page aren't the actual files I can download to manually install the update?
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I haven't been sent the update yet for my Fire 7, 5th Generation. I am correct to assume the files on the source code page aren't the actual files I can download to manually install the update?
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When available an installable update can be downloaded from here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201830180
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I haven't been sent the update yet for my Fire 7, 5th Generation. I am correct to assume the files on the source code page aren't the actual files I can download to manually install the update?
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I am still waiting for the update too, hopefully it will come this week.
Updated here overnight last night. Much snappier here as well. Happy about this update and posting from my Fire.
Bodymore420 said:
Updated here overnight last night. Much snappier here as well. Happy about this update and posting from my Fire.
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In what ways is it snappier?
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In what ways is it snappier?
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Overall touch response and entering/exiting apps. It feels smoother and just a bit more responsive to overall usability.
where do I get the source code?
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nevermind, I found it
Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
fBx said:
Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
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Most of the times as you can clearly see here on xda it takes a while or maybe even a long time, for the amazon tablets to be root able. I would buy a 6th gen right now, when your not connecting it to the internet it should be possible for you to root it right now (if it has the right software version installed).
If you want to buy a 7th gen then there is the problem that you can't connect it to the internet, because it will automatically upgrade you will have to wait until there is a method to root it before you can normally use your tablet....:crying:
Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
Okay, I cross-referenced 2016 and 2017 and it's basically the same specs. Not sure it would be that much of an upgrade. I'll check what a 2016 HD 8 goes for at ebay.
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Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
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Is it expected that loading Google Play on the 7th gen will work the same way as it did for the 6th? I don't need root or a custom ROM, but I don't want to be limited to the Amazon app store.
I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
psychoxman said:
so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
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I took my HD 8 (7th Gen) straight out of it's box and followed the instructions. Now someone reported in the other thread their Fire 7 (7th Gen) had issues with the versions linked in the thread. Mine was sitting at Amazon OS 5.3.3.0 out of the box and I didn't update that first. The guy with the Fire 7 stated he was at 5.4.0. One other person with the Fire 7 ran into a similar issue, but used newer versions of the Play Store and Play Services to get it working.
I just checked on my tablet and the Play Store and Play Services on the HD 8 just updated in the last 5 minutes, they are within the same build cycles as the one guy listed as working on his Fire 7.
Google play works
I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
trovatrice said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
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Yes, Gmail from Google Play work correctly in my HD 8 2017.
so ive just found this site, only a couple days too late by the looks of it. i read (not very carefully) that it would be easy to root a kindle fire hd 8, so i just got one in the mail today (7th generation). i havent connected it to the internet, its got 5.3.3.0 on it, and my goal was to replace the stock OS with regular android. is this not currently an option?
(if not, any suggestions on what i should do/not do with it in the meantime? will connecting it to the internet begin an automatic software update that will render the device even more useless? i thought i read someone post something about that)
Fire HD 8 (2017) here on 8.4.0.0. Google apps sideload just fine. Removed lockscreen ads permanently just by submitting a help ticket.
It's a fabulous tablet for the price. I'm using mine primarily as a retro emulator although I can't find any good compact tablet gamepads (hoping to find a joycon-ish clone).
Fire HD 7thG- Screen cracked... What to do????
my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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As far as I know, the difference between the 6th generation and 7th, is pretty much the programming and a few internal tweaks. I am about 90% sure there is nothing different about the physical hardware of the devices. So if you can find an HD 8 that's 6th generation, for real cheap, you can probably swap out the screen. There are several tutorials online if you do Google search, on how to do that. It sounds harder than it actually is. With that said, i am still looking for a cheap HD 7 so I can replace the screen in the one I have tucked away in a drawer.
theres couple news sites and amazon being quoted as saying 1st and 2nd will not receive fire os 6. at this point, what do we do? we are going to need bootloader unlocks(which arent easy to come by) to further develop for fire tv. at best, we use them for another year or 2?
https://www.slashgear.com/nougat-based-amazon-fire-os-6-is-out-but-no-one-can-get-it-02502323/
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/exist...getting-fire-os-6-software-update-02-10-2017/
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theres couple news sites and amazon being quoted as saying 1st and 2nd will not receive fire os 6. at this point, what do we do? we are going to need bootloader unlocks(which arent easy to come by) to further develop for fire tv. at best, we use them for another year or 2?
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source?
Hey all,
I just had a live chat with Amazon rep, and they told me fire TV 1st generation has one more update before ending support for the device. What now ?. It's a nice device that looks better next to TV then fire TV cube.
It's got to have aging hardware. The first Gen fire stick is useless today. It is so slow and infuriating to use.
The second Gen fire TV is nice. However, Evan that doesn't even support the new Alexa remote with TV control.
It might be time to think about a 4k stick for $50 or non 4k for $40.
Do you take advantage of SD or USB on your first Gen?
I know I will miss the USB port on my second Gen when it's time.
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laidbackcloud said:
Hey all,
I just had a live chat with Amazon rep, and they told me fire TV 1st generation has one more update before ending support for the device. What now . It's a nice device that looks better next to TV then fire TV cube.
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If you're talking about the origin Fire TV the flat one not the stick I have both the 1st and 2nd generation and still think they were the best Amazon TV devices made. No more updates would not or does not bother me they work great and side loaded apps also work great. I customize Sticks for family and friends but I still use the original devices in my bedroom and living room and will do for as long as they work. Actually I read somewhere that the new sticks will start to block some of the more interesting apps available via side loading, but cannot confirm this.
I have three 1st gen Fire TVs and they still work great. It would be cool if the OS could be upgraded to a newer version of Android.
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I have three 1st gen Fire TVs and they still work great. It would be cool if the OS could be upgraded to a newer version of Android.
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Thats the last thing that worries me all I know is I side load 3 versions of Kodi and Smart IPTV and both the 1st and 2nd run great, what worries me more is if the newer model are being setup to stop these apps from running
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If you're talking about the origin Fire TV the flat one not the stick I have both the 1st and 2nd generation and still think they were the best Amazon TV devices made. No more updates would not or does not bother me they work great and side loaded apps also work great. I customize Sticks for family and friends but I still use the original devices in my bedroom and living room and will do for as long as they work. Actually I read somewhere that the new sticks will start to block some of the more interesting apps available via side loading, but cannot confirm this.
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I'm talking about flat Amazon fire TV 1st gen box, not stick. I paid 100$ for it when it came out. I asked the Amazon rep about fire os 6, and sadly , it will not be upgraded to that.
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If you're talking about the origin Fire TV the flat one not the stick I have both the 1st and 2nd generation and still think they were the best Amazon TV devices made. No more updates would not or does not bother me they work great and side loaded apps also work great. I customize Sticks for family and friends but I still use the original devices in my bedroom and living room and will do for as long as they work. Actually I read somewhere that the new sticks will start to block some of the more interesting apps available via side loading, but cannot confirm this.
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I know this post is about a year old. Are you still using FTV 2 ? Mine seems like it has gotten slower lately. I wonder if Amazon is guilty of the same thing Apple was sued for
My main box that I use in my living room is the Fire TV generation 2 with 4K and it's still working well. I have a new Fire Stick as backup but for me the original flat boxes were the best. So to answer your question the FTV 2 is working today at 100%
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Mine seems like it has gotten slower lately
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A slow/cheap SDcard could cause slowdowns and lags...
Well mine is working OK I am using it now maybe time to factory restore and rebuild yours maybe, just a thought
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A slow/cheap SDcard could cause slowdowns and lags...
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Well mine is working OK I am using it now maybe time to factory restore and rebuild yours maybe, just a thought
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Thanks. I did move a lot of apps to SD card because I was running out of internal space. I am not sure the brand/model of microsd but I will speed test on my pc later. But the homescreen navigation runs. I also have issues with Netflix and Youtube TV. I may try your advice and rebuild.
I have a first gen stick too. I wonder if there is any value to that or if Amazon can take it as a trade in for a new one.
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Thanks. I did move a lot of apps to SD card because I was running out of internal space. I am not sure the brand/model of microsd but I will speed test on my pc later. But the homescreen navigation runs. I also have issues with Netflix and Youtube TV. I may try your advice and rebuild.
I have a first gen stick too. I wonder if there is any value to that or if Amazon can take it as a trade in for a new one.
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The Fire TV 2nd generation which to me was the best design and the best Amazon Fire ever made as a value as for the first Fire Stick not worth much there I think its so slow. What ever Amazon Fire you have fill it with crap and it will slow down you must leave enough memory for buffering when you stream.
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The Fire TV 2nd generation which to me was the best design and the best Amazon Fire ever made as a value as for the first Fire Stick not worth much there I think its so slow. What ever Amazon Fire you have fill it with crap and it will slow down you must leave enough memory for buffering when you stream.
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A Firestick 1st gen just sold on ebay for $28 plus $7 shipping?
The first Fire TV was OK and still works today, but the 2nd generation Fire TV was the best Amazon ever sold as you can add a SD card and transfer apps onto the card. One thing the all have in common is the same smalll memory to stream you need a lot of memory I moved all my apps the the SD card and have over a GB left of internal memory so it works fast. You have to remember that Amazon add a load of apps that most don't want or need yet they cannot be deleted I have deleted they're data but it always comes back using up internal space.
Whatever to keep the TV2 running fast you need to move as much data to the SD card just leaving the Amazon crap
Getting the low storage issue on Gen 1, and now the Gen 2 is showing low storage even though there is plenty of storage I think Amazon as added something to try and ruin these older boxes. Anyway given my Gen 1 to my son and put my Gen 2 in the bedroom and as I found a unwanted gift cheap on the bay I bought a Cube. Yet I still think the Amazon Fire TV 2nd Gen was the best device they ever made just a shame Amazon never updated them with new firmware and memory/storage they would sell I am sure. The Cube is good yet I still think the Fire TV 2nd gen flat box is still a great one to use and I will never get rid of mine.