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Camera Tip for Better Quality

For those who aren't very happy with the camera on the Moto G, here is some info I found out earlier today.
16:9 mode is only 3MP
4:3 mode is 5MP
So open up your camera and pull the side settings wheel out and turn off wide screen to take the best pictures possible on these phones and to fully utilize the 5MP that we have.
Of course this won't boost the quality an insane amount, but every bit helps.
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Yeah you're right mate.
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Yeah, but the quality of taken photos still sucks... I'm verry disappointed of image quality. Previously i'd had galaxy advance and it took 100% better photos with 3x more storage used. And there was also 5MP sensor. But... nobody can have everything.
Only videos made by its camera can bed considered as "not so bad", and only if there is good sunlight when you are going to record something.
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TRY HDR
pjotrek90 said:
Yeah, but the quality of taken photos still sucks... I'm verry disappointed of image quality. Previously i'd had galaxy advance and it took 100% better photos with 3x more storage used. And there was also 5MP sensor. But... nobody can have everything.
Only videos made by its camera can bed considered as "not so bad", and only if there is good sunlight when you are going to record something.
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Try keeping the HDR mode always on and keeping your hand little steady.
Practice it and you'll be able to take great pics with Moto G's camera.
Also, look into some good Camera apps like :
1. Google Camera (Free) - Touch to Focus, Manual Exposure, HDR , Lens Blur(AWESOME !)
2. Camera Zoom FX (Priced) - A lot more features, including Anti-Banding too !
Happy Moto-Geeing !

pjotrek90 said:
Yeah, but the quality of taken photos still sucks... I'm verry disappointed of image quality. Previously i'd had galaxy advance and it took 100% better photos with 3x more storage used. And there was also 5MP sensor. But... nobody can have everything.
Only videos made by its camera can bed considered as "not so bad", and only if there is good sunlight when you are going to record something.
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I am agree, unluckly camera is the only bad point on this phone. Yes, some can help to do better photos but honestly i don't see big differences.

Define "bad" I personally don't thin it's bad. It does great for a 5mp
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EXcellent.Very nice and works.Thanks.

LG G5 Camera discussion thread - Post your pictures here !

The LG G4 was one of last year's best camera phone. Let's see what the G5 has in the guts with its dual rear cameras:
- 16 MP F/1.8 - 75° field of view - laser autofocus, OIS
- 8 MP F/2..4 - 135° field of view (ultra wide angle) - fixed autofocus
Here is video link describing some of the camera features:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFD8qkzpJCs
Some reviews of the camera:
GSM arena: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g5-review-1416p7.php
Phone arena: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G5-Review_id4181/page/3

I will get some shots up soon.

Just 2 quick pictures I took ill take some more tomorrow

dino1342 said:
Just 2 quick pictures I took ill take some more tomorrow
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Are the manual controls fun to use?

same as using a G4

Here are pictures taken today unedited. Camera seems more than capable enough, if you want legit photos buy a dslr and call it a day.

Can someone who already has the device post couple of JPEG + associated DNG files both for the regular and wide angle cameras (big files can be shared via Google Drive, Dropbox or OneDrive) ?
I would like to know whether LG included a flat field correction in the DNG this time (it wasn't the case at the G4 launch and was addressed months later during the marshmallow release). I had to create one in the mean time but it wasn't addressing perfectly the issues.
More background on the G4 DNG issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314
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If anyone is interested, I posted on Reddit yesterday a comparison (totally amateur) of the G4 G5 and S7E.
LG G4 vs LG G5 vs Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge picture shootout (informal)

Here are some pics testing out the manual settings

vincent2167 said:
Can someone who already has the device post couple of JPEG + associated DNG files both for the regular and wide angle cameras (big files can be shared via Google Drive, Dropbox or OneDrive) ?
I would like to know whether LG included a flat field correction in the DNG this time (it wasn't the case at the G4 launch and was addressed months later during the marshmallow release). I had to create one in the mean time but it wasn't addressing perfectly the issues.
More background on the G4 DNG issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314
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Anyone?

vincent2167 said:
Anyone?
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I've seen your posts but no longer have the pre production model which is not the same as the retail version. In the UK, the retail launch has got delayed a lot. However, I should get a raw file very soon (in 24 hours). I'll DM link to dropbox when done.

Here's a couple taken of two frogs on my trip to Point Reyes. Unedited, straight from my camera roll.

Here is an auto HDR auto shot with the wide angle sensor. Pretty cool.
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The camera on this absolutely smashes my s7

Has anyone noticed or experienced the camera distorting in lower light condition or in conditions where the subject is not perfectly still?
Some of my photos look like they've been run through a really bad water colour filter or like they have been shot through a sheet of plastic (like a protective film over the lens, but it doesn't appear to have one on out of the box), in perfect daylight photos of still subjects (building/scenery) are stunning, with both the wide and normal camera, but if the subject is moving, the wide angel really struggles with the distortion type effect. In low light, the wide angle seems basically unusable if the subject is not perfectly still.

sdmix said:
Has anyone noticed or experienced the camera distorting in lower light condition or in conditions where the subject is not perfectly still?
Some of my photos look like they've been run through a really bad water colour filter or like they have been shot through a sheet of plastic (like a protective film over the lens, but it doesn't appear to have one on out of the box), in perfect daylight photos of still subjects (building/scenery) are stunning, with both the wide and normal camera, but if the subject is moving, the wide angel really struggles with the distortion type effect. In low light, the wide angle seems basically unusable if the subject is not perfectly still.
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Next time try turning HDR off and see if that helps.

gedas5 said:
Next time try turning HDR off and see if that helps.
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I'm going to try and give it a better test this evening, I think HDR was set to auto in that pic. I'm hoping you're right and changing that to off will solve this, it really does look software over hardware though, the Google Camera app seems to handle HDR processing better (although much slower than the camera on the G5, which is pretty instant, whereas my 5X took an age to process after the photo was taken). It's a shame the Google Camera app doesn't support the HDR mode when installed on the G5 and doesn't support the wide angle camera either so can't take a photo with that to do a direct comparison.

sdmix said:
I'm going to try and give it a better test this evening, I think HDR was set to auto in that pic. I'm hoping you're right and changing that to off will solve this, it really does look software over hardware though, the Google Camera app seems to handle HDR processing better (although much slower than the camera on the G5, which is pretty instant, whereas my 5X took an age to process after the photo was taken). It's a shame the Google Camera app doesn't support the HDR mode when installed on the G5 and doesn't support the wide angle camera either so can't take a photo with that to do a direct comparison.
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Nothing to do with HDR. The G5 went into night mode and held the shutter open longer. Go manual and fix the shutter speed.

The camera definitely hasnt been optimised yet in auto mode. Can tell by the way it selects a high iso in night shots. But I'm not worried as LG will sort this out in upcoming updates. I normally shoot in manual mode any way, and the photos are as amazing as I'd expect coming from the lg g4.
Really happy with this phone so far.

sstanton86 said:
The camera definitely hasnt been optimised yet in auto mode. Can tell by the way it selects a high iso in night shots. But I'm not worried as LG will sort this out in upcoming updates. I normally shoot in manual mode any way, and the photos are as amazing as I'd expect coming from the lg g4.
Really happy with this phone so far.
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I use Manual Camera normally for anything other than quick shots (normally on night out, so in low light where I use auto mode for speed), the manual mode in the default camera app though I'm really impressed with, especially coming from Manual Camera, this is my first LG phone so I'm loving that being available out of the box. The photos I've taken where I haven't been in a hurry or in low or challenging light have come out amazingly well. I agree though the look of the weird "shooting though plastic" or almost water colour like effect that appeared on that shot I posted earlier definitely looks like a processing issue, I just wanted to post it to see if anyone else had experienced the same or if it was a possible hardware fault (although I didn't think it was, so was more wondering if anyone had a solution to it software wise).
Hopefully though it is just software and they fix it in later updates. So far I think I'm happy to keep the phone after my few days with it so far, it really is an amazing device, fast, great build quality (fantastic to hold), great sound and what they've done to the OS is nice too, just hoping for root at some point in the future too although I'm getting used to LGs customizations now, so that's not a deal breaker for me yet (it will be more in the future if updates to Android N are slow).

Pictures & Videos taken with the Google Pixel

Hey everyone, I made a similar post while waiting for the 6P. Let's start off posting pictures of what we can find from reviews and then post your personal shots once the phones start rolling in.

more can be found here: http://phandroid.com/2016/10/04/google-pixel-photo-samples/
per source: It appears at least half of these photos were processed with Snapseed and VSCO.

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I'm guessing either that is a HDR+ oversight, meaning it was not utilized properly, or Google decided to keep contrast in this situation. Without being there to view the scene with my own eyes, I can't determine which photo is better (more accurate). Maybe keeping the shadows darker was truer to the scene, and again, produced sharp looking contrast. Or maybe HDR+ dropped the ball here - who knows?
I won't really judge until real reviews come out with post-release software.

I went for a wander at lunchtime to get some real world samples from the camera. Didn't have long so not exactly the best photography but it should give everyone a bit of an idea about the camera's real world performance.
EDIT: It seems the tapatalk upload destroys image quality, so here is a Google Photos link for the full resolution versions of the below, along with a couple of extra shots:
https://goo.gl/photos/fAsQ8YLqEijHWiU76
Wouldn't focus quite as close as I wanted despite clicking a lot in the closest flower but plenty of detail where it did decide to focus:
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The dog

what's the best way to upload an image? right now I'm just on XDA via chromium

diabl0w said:
what's the best way to upload an image? right now I'm just on XDA via chromium
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The App

Great photos
Does anyone know or can anyone test to see if adobe lightroom mobile allows taking photos in raw? OR another app to shoot in raw?

Very low light, smokey environment. Turned out much clearer than expected

Just saw this great shootout video from PCWorld. They compare the Pixel (XL in this case) to the S7, iPhone 7 Plus and V20. Def worth watching!
http://www.pcworld.com/video/70857/google-pixel-camera-shootout

Really love this camera. Everything is so well balanced
Pictures taking in my hometown Groningen in the Netherlands
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HDR+ only

I don't care what anybody says. This camera is dope. I like it better than my Samsung Galaxy S7 camera.

Happy Halloween!
A few snaps...
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I did some late night shoots in the city
I see that there is a lot of quality lost by posting this here.... [emoji52]
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Random sunset time comparison with the 6P
Nexus first then Pixel. I believe the result on the nexus is better. Even though it can be harder to capture that shot and even though it takes longer to shoot, process and open the app. The nexus also has terrible stabilisation, has trouble autofocussing and fails to get close up in macros.

subhani said:
Nexus first then Pixel. I believe the result on the nexus is better. Even though it can be harder to capture that shot and even though it takes longer to shoot, process and open the app. The nexus also has terrible stabilisation, has trouble autofocussing and fails to get close up in macros.
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I hardly see any difference....
I prefer the pixel slightly,
And the things you mentioned are the difference
I can't download them at full resolution so it's hard to say this way which one is clearly better.
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coolhead said:
I hardly see any difference....
I prefer the pixel slightly,
And the things you mentioned are the difference
I can't download them at full resolution so it's hard to say this way which one is clearly better.
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Yeah I uploaded them on tinypic and I thought they embed them in the thread with a click function to take it to their site for full resolution. I could swear it used to do that. I need another solution.
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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG G7 ThinQ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I find the auto focus to be very bad on the G7. Manually focus via focus peaking solves the issue for me.

Vanhoud said:
I find the auto focus to be very bad on the G7. Manually focus via focus peaking solves the issue for me.
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I did a couple of tests after reading your comment and my autofocus seems fine. The only issue I found was going from a distant subject to a close one with writing. It struggle to make out the letters. Turned on AI and now it gets it.
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Can someone help me out by taking a picture of a person at night, indoor lighting? If you can upload it to Google photos full resolution so that it will not be compressed. Thanks a bunch!

I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality

This kind of picture I take a lot. I'm a lush.... So I need my camera to do well in this light.

pychobj2001 said:
I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
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Agreed! I had the opportunity to take pictures and videos and this camera is quasi trash. Does everything ok. Does nothing really well. The AI struggles. I hope an upgrade makes the camera better. I came from an s9 plus too and this camera doesn't compare.

pychobj2001 said:
I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
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Have you tried the manual mode?

I've tried manual mode and it is capable but it's still not in the same league as the S9+.
The wide angle mode is nice but it's not high quality even in full daylight.
And why no 4K60 mode?
With a 16MP sensor I figured this device would produce best images yet particularly in manual mode.
There's a lot of lag/delay when using the camera as well.
I long for the day when we have a 16MP F 1.2 camera! It will be here...eventually!

cpufrost said:
I've tried manual mode and it is capable but it's still not in the same league as the S9+.
The wide angle mode is nice but it's not high quality even in full daylight.
And why no 4K60 mode?
With a 16MP sensor I figured this device would produce best images yet particularly in manual mode.
There's a lot of lag/delay when using the camera as well.
I long for the day when we have a 16MP F 1.2 camera! It will be here...eventually!
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I dont have lags .got update 1 day ago no lags now witch camera

No update available for unlocked users.

it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone

sorry

Well, I contribute to the topic of the forum.
(by curiosities of fate, at the end of this article I just got the first update of the phone, which touches certain aspects of the phone, so you have to repeat tests, but for those who take it out of the box is a good reference).
Let's be clear, the photographic quality of the LG G7's automatic mode is bad, especially when approaching 100% of the size of the photo, the final finish is like a watercolor filter, little detail, and somewhat dark colors.
Let's illustrate with the following image:
(the images have been cut to 35% of the original size, I hope you can appreciate the differences. I am not a professional of the field, nor a photographer but here we go!)
This is the default image of the LG g7 in automatic mode, JPG format, the colors seem unnatural to me.
How can this be resolved? taking pictures in manual mode and in RAW format, the difference is very noticeable.
The image gains a lot in detail, but loses in color representation, does anyone know why the images are faded in RAW?, with some patience and retouched in photoshop the values ​​of saturation and vibrance have something very similar to what I was seeing at that moment, although I understand that this is very subjective, ideally the phone would place these colors from the beginning that we selected the RAW format.
Finally, mention the differences in detail between the automatic format and the RAW format, the image on the left is in automatic JPG mode and the one on the right is in RAW, that gain in detail has a cost, the photo has a brutal weight in Size, around 30-45mb per photo.
I hope the comparison works for something and for someone, please excuse my bad English and greetings from Mexico.

louie_yo said:
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
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I think you're completely right.
These are some pics I took so far, most of them with stock camera (only the last two should have been taken with GCam). Most of them shot in auto mode and there are no post production works. I'm not a photographer at all and I don't pretend to be one, but I'm pretty satisfied with G7's cameras.
Bad resolution is due to upload, I can upload pics somewhere else if needed.
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louie_yo said:
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
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don't buy this phone for the camera. it has plenty of outstanding features, but the camera isn't one of them. it's "good enough", but not up to par with other flagships.
s7, s8, s9, iphone X, mate 10 all take better pics. it does better with low light than previous LGs, but very unremarkable. the GCam port is helping a lot. once it's really up and going we will see what this hardware can do. LG just can't seem to get the software side right.
i'm not bashing it, as i knew this before i bought the phone and the camera isn't very important to me.
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I think you're completely right.
These are some pics I took so far, most of them with stock camera (only the last two should have been taken with GCam). Most of them shot in auto mode and there are no post production works. I'm not a photographer at all and I don't pretend to be one, but I'm pretty satisfied with G7's cameras.
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definitely notice a difference on those last two! they look great. colors feel true to life.

Is it possible to add the wide angle mode in the GCam?

My g6 get is a bit 'grainy' but detail and dynamic range for a 13mp is at times better than the g7 that are verry low at detail in some shots and some get to punchy that loose natural scene color. Open and switch between camera's is way faster on g6 than the g7 to. And allot of extra features 'pop out-gallery scroll left side-tracking focus etc are missing. Hope they improve fast with a update.
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G6 left was double the distance taken than g7. Clear detail
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More samples regular and wide angle how g6 do better.
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Why you shouldn't use the new panorama UI (gcam6.1)

Currently I am on vacation and used the new panorama function a lot.
Sadly when editing the images I noticed that they have a very low resolution compared to the "old" photo sphere modes.
So if you care for high amount of detail in your panoramas never ever use the new panorama UI.
It just creates VR shots.
Since I learned the hard way, by wasting my time and a lot of beautiful shots, I wanted others to be aware of that.
Kind regards,
Reawo

reawo said:
Currently I am on vacation and used the new panorama function a lot.
Sadly when editing the images I noticed that they have a very low resolution compared to the "old" photo sphere modes.
So if you care for high amount of detail in your panoramas never ever use the new panorama UI.
It just creates VR shots.
Since I learned the hard way, by wasting my time and a lot of beautiful shots, I wanted others to be aware of that.
Kind regards,
Reawo
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Wow. You're totally right! Super low resolution and there's no option to adjust like before. Hope they add a toggle or something to choose VR photo or Panorama.
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It's not only the Panorama it's most pictures taken are less quality compared to the old app, I went back to the stock app after updating

Sab3elbromba said:
It's not only the Panorama it's most pictures taken are less quality compared to the old app, I went back to the stock app after updating
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I don't know about that. Regular pics look good to me and Max even points out some ever so slightly less grain in low light shots:
https://youtu.be/dYc4liPOYeQ
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EeZeEpEe said:
I don't know about that. Regular pics look good to me and Max even points out some ever so slightly less grain in low light shots:
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Yup i can see the difference i took a pic in low light with pixel 2 xl and pixel 2 running pixel 3 camera i could notice the difference
Plus portrait mode in low light was way better on pixel 3 camera
Cheers ?
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