Hallo!
Many of you have already received the anoying 4.5.1 upgrade and wait for a miricle so they can root/safestrap/install custom rom etc.
There are many discussions about if this is possible or not.
Many of you contacted Amazon trying to explain they have problems after 4.1.1/4.5.1, assuming at this time, only amazon can "push" such a downgrade for your device.
I want to share here my experience so far.
I got a Kindle HDX 7 last Friday , because it was only 100 EUR at Amazon.
Having no idea what kind of crap regarding its OS it is, I let it update automaticly to 4.5.1.
I saw then, that I can not do any root/custom firmware on it since 4.5.1 is new and not "hacked". There is a thread here in XDA and also a similar ones at other android forums, that someone suggests contacting Amazon and making them "push" a Downgrade from the servers to your device. Many of you already tried it and it did not work.
I have contacted Amazon trought Chat about 5 times. First I was being told that its "techicaly impossible" to do any kind of downgrade or they avoided my conversation and only suggested that I bring my device to service for a replacement. After 4-5 failed attempts I spoke to some random Amazon guy, were I stated that I do not like the new 4.... versions and I insist I get a roll back. I told him also that my device freezes and restarts by itself after the 4.1.1 and persisting trought 4.5.1.
And than the miricle happened. He told me a rollback to 3.2... is possible and he would contact me with more info per E-mail and in 1-2 days their Technical department will "send" the downgrade directly to my Kindle.
I would post here after I have some more news/I have succesfully downgradet.
So, a downgrade via Amazon IS POSSIBLE!
Kind Regards
dem0baza said:
Hallo!
Many of you have already received the anoying 4.5.1 upgrade and wait for a miricle so they can root/safestrap/install custom rom etc.
There are many discussions about if this is possible or not.
Many of you contacted Amazon trying to explain they have problems after 4.1.1/4.5.1, assuming at this time, only amazon can "push" such a downgrade for your device.
I want to share here my experience so far.
I got a Kindle HDX 7 last Friday , because it was only 100 EUR at Amazon.
Having no idea what kind of crap regarding its OS it is, I let it update automaticly to 4.5.1.
I saw then, that I can not do any root/custom firmware on it since 4.5.1 is new and not "hacked". There is a thread here in XDA and also a similar ones at other android forums, that someone suggests contacting Amazon and making them "push" a Downgrade from the servers to your device. Many of you already tried it and it did not work.
I have contacted Amazon trought Chat about 5 times. First I was being told that its "techicaly impossible" to do any kind of downgrade or they avoided my conversation and only suggested that I bring my device to service for a replacement. After 4-5 failed attempts I spoke to some random Amazon guy, were I stated that I do not like the new 4.... versions and I insist I get a roll back. I told him also that my device freezes and restarts by itself after the 4.1.1 and persisting trought 4.5.1.
And than the miricle happened. He told me a rollback to 3.2... is possible and he would contact me with more info per E-mail and in 1-2 days their Technical department will "send" the downgrade directly to my Kindle.
I would post here after I have some more news/I have succesfully downgradet.
So, a downgrade via Amazon IS POSSIBLE!
Kind Regards
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yea sure a downgrade is possible. Hopefully one of our DEV's find a solution to emulate an "amazon pushed downgrade assignment"
taette said:
yea sure a downgrade is possible. Hopefully one of our DEV's find a solution to emulate an "amazon pushed downgrade assignment"
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You read my mind.
Would be nice to be able to flash versions ourselves.
I'll wait under 30 days
I think my kindle already had a 4.something software for the uk as soon as I turned it on it updated once to 4.5.1 and the logs state 4.1 to 4.5.
I'm going to wait under 30 days and then return it as it doesn't connect well with the chromecast or my smart tv, and Amazon simply say wait for another update and it might work but don't count on it but they blamed it all on google (a lie).
One thing with everyone now owning one, I bet the number of calls to "mayday" has gone up and we could all ask regularly about items they have omitted to allow work, see if they can keep to the 15 second target?
It also looks having read all the forums that its been well over a year and few people bought one especially the clever dev's, and the bootloader looks incredibly well locked down compared to versions 1+2, so no-one is working on it.
what does everyone think about the chance of being able to get google play store working on the new 4.5 or should I use it for another week and then return it due to having fantastic hardware but severely software limited and save up for something with a mostly vanilla android.
Temporary solution
hello guys i went to a lot sites looking for a way to root the kindle fire hdx 7 on fire os 4.5.1
its a pain if you got the OTA and you didnt know it was very important to stop that update in order to be able to root.
here a solution to run android apps without crash its very long proccess but if you want it you can have it!
search on youtube : How to install GAPPS (Google Apps) on the Fire HD6, HD7, and HDX
from Imma Wake
no link cuz im new here!
I was also able to get my downgraded from 4.5.1 . After being passed around between departments for 15mins I finally got someone that was able to do what I asked. She said I should be receiving an email within 1-2 business days with further information on the downgrade.
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Twoods196 said:
I was also able to get my downgraded from 4.5.1 . After being passed around between departments for 15mins I finally got someone that was able to do what I asked. She said I should be receiving an email within 1-2 business days with further information on the downgrade.
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I was told the same. Have you heard anything since?
Nothing yet but it's only been 1 day how long have you been waiting?
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Nothing yet but it's only been 1 day how long have you been waiting?
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Been about 24 hours now, haven't heard anything yet.
ondi58 said:
Been about 24 hours now, haven't heard anything yet.
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I am waiting for it since last Friday (28.11). I contacted amazon two days ago and they told me they still wait for an answer from the technical department?! Yesterday I made an angry e-mail and I got a fast answer with great apology and a promise they will be ready till 10.12.
I really wish I saw this post before hand I just wasted 3 hours trying two root this bloody thing and two find out fun 7 > 4.5.1 wont root, I feel like a bloody lemon now, I hope someone can help downgrade or update the hack what a bummer.
I'm chatting with Amazon custom service,
They accept my kindle roll back to os 13.3.x.x but they warning my kindle cant not further updates
well well
so confusing
Yep, got the same thing yesterday after going through 6-7 different chats.
well this is what the CS chats:
" 09:14 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): We are unable to roll back the software version of your Kindle device as the software version is too high. Only devices running FIRE OS version 4.1.1 can have their software rolled back to the previous version.
I see your Kindle is updated with Fire OS 4.5.1 (451004520).
However, to help you in this case I have forwarded your issue to our technical team with more information.
09:15 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): They will get back to you with more information regarding your software roll back."
still waiting..... OS 4.5.1 is very nice, everything is ok, just only i cant connect to Google Play Services, does anyone know how to solve that????
Thanks alot
hanny_chan said:
well this is what the CS chats:
" 09:14 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): We are unable to roll back the software version of your Kindle device as the software version is too high. Only devices running FIRE OS version 4.1.1 can have their software rolled back to the previous version.
I see your Kindle is updated with Fire OS 4.5.1 (451004520).
However, to help you in this case I have forwarded your issue to our technical team with more information.
09:15 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): They will get back to you with more information regarding your software roll back."
still waiting..... OS 4.5.1 is very nice, everything is ok, just only i cant connect to Google Play Services, does anyone know how to solve that????
Thanks alot
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Isn't it required that it be a system app in order to function properly?
You have to install some services which requires root. This means playstore isn't compatible with not rootable kindle versions like 4.5.1
Finally! AMZ downgraded my Kindle
Hi!
Amazon rolled back my Kindle yesterday!
It took me one chat and one email to get them downgrade my device.
I switched on my Kindle yesterday and it automatically flashed the 3.2.7 Firmware which we still can root by using the towel root method!
Is there any info I can upload from my Kindle for you? If the files still exists of course...
Cheers
URBANsUNITED
I just managed to get them working on rolling back mine an hour ago, first try to. and she did it while I was on the phone with her. Pretty easy, but I did have a pretty damn good story.
Thread Necro, sorry, meant to post in the other window I have open.
Amazon succesfull Downgrade my Kindle Fire HDX to 3.2.7. Rooting with towelroot works .
Is there a solution to downgrade to 3.1.0 from 3.2.7 ?
@isRaZZe
Which version had your hdx, 4.5.1 or 4.5.2 ?
After receiving my Fire HD 10 (2015) this weekend, (it was on 5.1.3) I successfully downgraded to 5.1.2 & rooted it, replaced Kingroot with SU, installed gapps and everything was fine. I was planing to try to change the launcher today after work, and when I got home .... I noticed my tablet just got updated to 5.3.1.0 :crying: :crying: :crying: The OTA updates got me...
Playstore works fine, except for the root which I imagine it won't be available anytime soon.
Can it still be downgraded to 5.1.2? Or at least can I still change the launcher?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
I guess it is no luck for 5.3.1.0 for now.
Successfully upgraded from 5.6.2.0 to 5.6.3.0 via the misnumbered 5.3.6.4 OTA update. Device had been previously rooted and the first OTA update failed, but I lost root in the process. OTA downloaded a second time and successfully updated to 5.6.3.0.
Root was quickly and painlessly restored following the procedure in this post by retyre:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Has anyone else confirmed root is successful on the FireHD10? One other user had problems in this forum and could not get root working.
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Has anyone else confirmed root is successful on the FireHD10? One other user had problems in this forum and could not get root working.
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Confirmed. See my post (#140) on here....https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...ne-rooting-t3734860/post78250635#post78250635
Hi, I've updated my HD 10 with the official 5.6.3.0 version from Amazon and it shows 5.3.6.4 according to the Amazon support this is correct so, the old version was 5.2.
I don't know why but the version before was showing 5.6.2.0 I'm not sure if the support people knows anything about the correct version
Success!!
Hi I accidentally update one of my new Fire HD 10 to 5.3.6.4 which has been rooted while it was on 5.6.1.0. with the offline method by retyre.
It was only 1 attempt and it succeded.
Cool, root methods are still working for the latest update 5.6.3.0 (which I saw there was an update only today, as I have disabled OTA). Any noticeable changes in the latest 5.6.3.0 when compared to 5.6.2.0 in terms of features and speed/performance? (I could not find any release notes on AMZN website).
Cheers!
My firehd10 was rooted with the Kingsport method at 5.6.2.0 and I would like to upgrade to the latest 5.6.3.4. Since the method disables the OTA, how do I upgrade? I've read that the same rooting method works for 5.6.3.4, but don't know how to proceed from wherein am now on 5.6.2.0.
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Hi, I've updated my HD 10 with the official 5.6.3.0 version from Amazon and it shows 5.3.6.4 according to the Amazon support this is correct so, the old version was 5.2.
I don't know why but the version before was showing 5.6.2.0 I'm not sure if the support people knows anything about the correct version
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It's just a typo...real version is 5.6.3.4 :good:
I have a firestick 2nd Gen software version 5x but it won't update
It checks for updates but won't update. Even spoken to Amazon and theyve said it requires a number of updates but they didn't know what to suggest.
I've factory reset the device a number of times and hasn't helped.
Is there any way to manually update it.
I want it to run v6x or7 if possible so that I can run the latest wolf launcher and launcher manager.
TIA
bartjunited said:
I have a firestick 2nd Gen software version 5x but it won't update
It checks for updates but won't update. Even spoken to Amazon and theyve said it requires a number of updates but they didn't know what to suggest.
I've factory reset the device a number of times and hasn't helped.
Is there any way to manually update it.
I want it to run v6x or7 if possible so that I can run the latest wolf launcher and launcher manager.
TIA
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You wont get a 2nd generation to update to fireos 6 or 7 via OTA (over the air updates) .
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
Unless amazon are willing to send you a replacement it is the only way to successfully bring your OS upto date im afraid .
Bertonumber1 said:
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
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Has anyone done this and can speak to performance?
I have a 1st gen fire tv (not stick) and wondering if it's useful to update and then possibly debloat. Or if this would ultimately be a lot of work for having bad performance in the end.
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Sorry for hijacking this thread, came to the forums looking for something else. Saw the thread, had the thought and just asked. I've tried to read up on rooting and it seems my old firetv (fully upgraded to 5.2.7.4) isn't rootable without soldering so it seems I won't be updating anyway.
ngnglro said:
Has anyone done this and can speak to performance?
I have a 1st gen fire tv (not stick) and wondering if it's useful to update and then possibly debloat. Or if this would ultimately be a lot of work for having bad performance in the end.
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Sorry for hijacking this thread, came to the forums looking for something else. Saw the thread, had the thought and just asked. I've tried to read up on rooting and it seems my old firetv (fully upgraded to 5.2.7.4) isn't rootable without soldering so it seems I won't be updating anyway.
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Yes i have done this with several sticks and the update works perfectly, i had a stick stuck on version 5.2.6.8 and successfully flashed 5.2.7.2 r1 then 5.2.7.3 . I cannot say the same for montoya 1st geneartion as it would need to be on one of the very lowest firmwares for this to work .
Bertonumber1 said:
You wont get a 2nd generation to update to fireos 6 or 7 via OTA (over the air updates) .
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
Unless amazon are willing to send you a replacement it is the only way to successfully bring your OS upto date im afraid .
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Thanks for that I didnt know that was the case.
They won't send me a replacement I've spoken to them already about it as its out of warranty.
Would you recommend rooting it etc?
Is it worth the headache?
I've rooted phones before but never a firestick
Bertonumber1 said:
Yes i have done this with several sticks and the update works perfectly, i had a stick stuck on version 5.2.6.8 and successfully flashed 5.2.7.2 r1 then 5.2.7.3 . I cannot say the same for montoya 1st geneartion as it would need to be on one of the very lowest firmwares for this to work .
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Can you share a tutorial please
@bartjunited
Follow this unlock process here :
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 2nd gen (tank)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 2nd gen Fire TV Stick (tank) Current relase: amonet-tank-v1.2.2.zip NOTE: Recent reports indicate a change that disables brom DL-mode The change seems to have been introduced with devices...
forum.xda-developers.com
For firestick 2nd generation
Then download and install via twrp a prerooted rom from here :
Fire TV Stick 2 (tank) Prerooted Stock Images [5.2.7.3_r1]
As usual, this WILL void your warranty and I am NOT responsible for anything you do with this. Installing it properly won't brick your Fire TV, but doing stupid things with it might. First, you must be unlocked. You can follow the instructions...
forum.xda-developers.com
The guides on each of these posts will demonstrate in an infomative way how to upgrade youre firnware on 2nd gen "tank"(5.2.7.3 is current version of prerooted ).
If you need any help just ask and someone will be happy to help
bartjunited said:
I have a firestick 2nd Gen software version 5x but it won't update
It checks for updates but won't update. Even spoken to Amazon and theyve said it requires a number of updates but they didn't know what to suggest.
I've factory reset the device a number of times and hasn't helped.
Is there any way to manually update it.
I want it to run v6x or7 if possible so that I can run the latest wolf launcher and launcher manager.
TIA
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The Amazon website lists this as the current version for Fire Stick 2nd gen:
Fire TV Stick with Alexa Voice Remote: Fire OS 5.2.7.7 (662663620)
Fire TV Device and Accessory Software Updates - Amazon Customer Service
Fire TV devices and paired accessories automatically download software updates when connected to the Internet.
www.amazon.com
Bertonumber1 said:
You wont get a 2nd generation to update to fireos 6 or 7 via OTA (over the air updates) .
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
Unless amazon are willing to send you a replacement it is the only way to successfully bring your OS upto date im afraid .
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Hi.
I'm kindy having the same problem.Got a Fire TV pendent brand new that I never opened and it want update.How do I install the source code update manually?
With all the changes to the latest versions of the firmware on the Fire 10 11th Gen has anyone attempted to roll the firmware back to the 7.3.1.9 or any other pre-7.3.2.2 version? I found them all on Softpedia. Could they be loaded using the manual update method?
Fuses burning on updates... at the moment no chance ;-(
Not exactly sure what you mean.