I am using exynos on N. Was getting ~6 hours SOT on MM, phone would last almost 2 days. After flashing nougat, only getting around 2-3 SOT and phone doesn't even last 1 day.
I am:
-not using any package disablers
-not using AOD
-I would say even usage of wifi/data
-all motion detection off, not very many apps doing background syncing (or so I think)
I have owned this phone for almost 1 year now, always fast charging everyday so my battery is probably very weak by now.
Should I:
1. Try flashing a custom debloated N ROM? (I've had people on here tell me they used ton of different N ROMs for months and they still went back to MM for longer battery life.)
2. Try flashing a custom debloated MM ROM?
3. Pay ~$70-80 to get a new battery?
For example I am considering flashing superman rom but not sure if I should flash mm or N.
I don't know how people are getting 8-9 hours SOT on nougat. If anyone could give advice that would be great.
Thank you.
Hi,
Since you're charging the phone everyday with fast charge and is using it for almost a year, then you have to keep in mind that the battery won't last as long as when you got the device.
You can however try to get around the aging of the phone by making use of less bloated ROMs and more battery efficient kernels, if you're not using Knox featured neither is using Samsung Pay, then since you're at the end of your warranty I highly recommend installing a custom ROM.
I do not think that the downgrade is a good solution, first because you won't be able to do it AFAIK, Samsung Knox prevents a system downgrade ever since the S4 IIRC. So unless you get a custom Marshmallow ROM that works for your current Nougat bootloader (which isn't impossible, I think most should run).
Personally in your situation I'd first try a clean stock install, if the problem persists I'd go for a Nougat ROM, because since you are installing a custom ROM, why not go for the latest and greatest instead of downgrading since you can get a good battery life on the Nougat ROM as well?
All the best,
~Lord
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I'm as well having poorer battery life on Nougat than I had with MM, though 2-3 hours SOT seems to be too low.
On Nougat I get 5 hours SOT, while on MM 7 hours were the norm. Hopefully Sammy will release some update "soon" (lol, ok: somewhen...)
Anyway, what do you mean by downgrade not possible?
What happens when I flash a stock MM Rom through ODIN now, won't that work?
Downgrading to MM from Nougat works just fine by flashing official MM Rom via Odin.
I did it on my G935F because I'm using xposed which is not yet working in Nougat.
Hi,
Good to know that downgrade is still a possibility, I've read on another thread (don't remember where or when tho) that some users reported having Odin simply failing to flash a downgrade (IIRC was S6 MM downgrade to LP). Sorry for the misinformation .
All the best,
~Lord
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GrippingSphere said:
Downgrading to MM from Nougat works just fine by flashing official MM Rom via Odin.
I did it on my G935F because I'm using xposed which is not yet working in Nougat.
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Nice to here that u got successfull in downgrading... i also wana go back to MM..so should i also try?
majidshahab091 said:
Nice to here that u got successfull in downgrading... i also wana go back to MM..so should i also try?
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It's really up to the phone's owner to decide. One can only suggest but everyone has its own reasons to choose either N or MM.
One thing i noticed during the downgrade, it's asking for your Google password so be sure to know it. It may also cause your phone to freeze during boot up, the solution for this is to go to Recovery and wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. So be sure to backup first your data by using TB or synchronisation thru your Google acct or Samsung acct.
Also because S7 snd S7e have no removable batteries, be sure you know how to go to Download or Recovery mode without first turning off the phone.
GrippingSphere said:
It's really up to the phone's owner to decide. One can only suggest but everyone has its own reasons to choose either N or MM.
One thing i noticed during the downgrade, it's asking for your Google password so be sure to know it. It may also cause your phone to freeze during boot up, the solution for this is to go to Recovery and wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. So be sure to backup first your data by using TB or synchronisation thru your Google acct or Samsung acct.
Also because S7 snd S7e have no removable batteries, be sure you know how to go to Download or Recovery mode without first turning off the phone.
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Ok thanks
If doing a downgrade I would strongly recommend a factory resets as you may encounter a problem anytime since there's no downgrade migration.
Though everyone can decide by his own you should keep in mind you won't get any further security updates for Marshmallow from Samsung. In such case it may be better to go for a custom Marshmallow ROM which is still maintained (if available).
The battery management on Nougat is definitely better than on Marshmallow. You may search for the reasons of your problems...
It's not difficult to change the battery. There are some good step by step online manuals on youtube.
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Hi there,
Happy owner of a Nexus 4 runing stock ROM with Android ver. 4.4.4, I rooted it few days ago with Towelroot app and unlocked the bootloader (with BootUnlock app) in order to enable the LTE fonction. I dit it with LTE Nexus 4 Modem Flasher app and it works well (my mobile carrier uses AWE for 4G). The custom recovery TWRP has been installed by the app prior to allow the flash of the modem driver/firmware. Now I am wondering about the coming update Lollipop which I really want to get.
As I could read in the forum, even if the system offers me the OTA update option, I should decline it since my custom recovery has been changed. Am I right? I have a doubt because I also read that people successfully updated OTA their rooted Nexus 4 even before Towelroot was existing and I guess this imply that they necessary changed their revovery...
As you may understand, I'm a bit newbie, I just rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader without using the toolkit, and ideally I would avoid to do so.
My main concern is the following: updating to Android 5 (stock ROM either fron OTA or the tool kit), will I lose the benefit of LTE, or in other words, will the update change the modem firmware/driver?
Nota Bene: I don't really care about loosing the root privilege but I want to keep the LTE capability.
Thanks,
Guillaume.
guigzmtl said:
Hi there,
Happy owner of a Nexus 4 runing stock ROM with Android ver. 4.4.4, I rooted it few days ago with Towelroot app and unlocked the bootloader (with BootUnlock app) in order to enable the LTE fonction. I dit it with LTE Nexus 4 Modem Flasher app and it works well (my mobile carrier uses AWE for 4G). The custom recovery TWRP has been installed by the app prior to allow the flash of the modem driver/firmware. Now I am wondering about the coming update Lollipop which I really want to get.
As I could read in the forum, even if the system offers me the OTA update option, I should decline it since my custom recovery has been changed. Am I right? I have a doubt because I also read that people successfully updated OTA their rooted Nexus 4 even before Towelroot was existing and I guess this imply that they necessary changed their revovery...
As you may understand, I'm a bit newbie, I just rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader without using the toolkit, and ideally I would avoid to do so.
My main concern is the following: updating to Android 5 (stock ROM either fron OTA or the tool kit), will I lose the benefit of LTE, or in other words, will the update change the modem firmware/driver?
Nota Bene: I don't really care about loosing the root privilege but I want to keep the LTE capability.
Thanks,
Guillaume.
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I honestly can't speak for OTAs, as I've never done one on my Nexus 4. When I got mine, it already had 4.4.4, and I've been using custom ROMs since, and never back to stock.
But I can tell you that the radio survives ROM flashes, so I suspect it'll survive flashing the official 5.0 Lollypop ROM. You don't need to do an OTA to upgrade stock ROMs, you can flash them from recovery. You just have to wait until Google makes it publicly available and someone makes the flashable zip, or you can do it with your computer and ADB. I won't go through the steps here, since we haven't gotten there yet.
Regardless, even if it's not immediately, you will be able to update to 5.0 and have LTE, but wait on accepting an OTA or flashing until it's clear exactly how it'll all work.
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It occurs to me that people have been using the ported L preview on their Nexus 4s for a few months now. I haven't tried it, but maybe one that has could help you better. I'd search, but the L preview thread has 16000+ posts in it, and I'm just not that interested enough to try (I'm probably sticking with KK if/when Xposed works with ART).
OTA's often replace the modems, and since it can replace the entire /system directory it could potentially disable LTE enabler as well. And flashing stock images will replace your modems, and everything else in the phone like recovery, with the stock ones.
If LTE is really important to you, stay with what your using and do not OTA... wait until the new Lollipop radios are modified as a hybrid, then flash the stock Lollipop ROM, flash the radios and enabler, and you should be good to go. This is assuming they don't do something to break the OS so that hybrid radios are not possible.
Also, since you are on custom recovery, NEVER take an OTA... EVER... it will soft brick your device (it will be recoverable, just takes some work).
Personally, I was LTE for a while, and it was very hit and miss... would often drop to 3G and not go back to LTE unless I toggled in/out of airplane mode, and it destroyed my battery, cut my screen time in half. When I was on LTE my average screen time was 1.5-2.0 hours and I could not make it through a 16 hour day on a single charge, now that I removed them and want back to the stock 3G 1.03 radios, I get 3.0-3.5 hours screen time over 16 hours and it makes it though a full day, usually without a bump charge.
Hi guys, Newbie to forum and rooting here! I own a Galaxy S4 i9505 android version 4.3 and want it to upgrade to a higher, better and stable version. I've been doing a lot of research and found that the latest 6.0.1 gives issues with wifi on s4! I always wanted to root my phone but never did but since pokemon go doesn't run on 4.3 I'm glad that I'm forced to root it ! So, which is the best ROM and android version that I should upgrade my phone to that'll not show any bugs or issues! I don't care if the android version's not latest..I own only one phone! Just want to run pokemon go and exploit some features that rooting will provide! Thanks for help~
There aren't any ROMs that are 100% bug free. Even Samsung ROMs have bugs.
Also, the matter of "which ROM is better" is subjective.
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There aren't any ROMs that are 100% bug free. Even Samsung ROMs have bugs.
Also, the matter of "which ROM is better" is subjective.
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Hey thanks for the reply! I'm aware that no ROM maybe 100% bug free but maybe there are some which have insignificant bugs?? and also perhaps the older ROMs..say the ones with android 5.0.x maybe so because of more updates? In that regard, I would really like if you would recommend one such ROM to your knowledge! Thanks!
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Hey thanks for the reply! I'm aware that no ROM maybe 100% bug free but maybe there are some which have insignificant bugs?? and also perhaps the older ROMs..say the ones with android 5.0.x maybe so because of more updates? In that regard, I would really like if you would recommend one such ROM to your knowledge! Thanks!
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The Google Play Edition ROM has always been working well for me.
Roll ultra
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Me, ive come from many years of custom ROMs on my S2, and due to all the issues with CM13 which was the last ROM i ran on it, i retired the S2 the other day and got a cheap second hand S4, and i have to say after all the drama of custom CM13 on the S2, i am actually enjoying the stock 5.01 LP ROM on the S4. All ive done is run CF Auto Root and then run this debloat app on it Until i do enough research on what a good custom ROM to install, im just going to stick with the stock 5.0.1...
Stock 5.01 is available here at sammobile
It should be enough of an upgrade over 4.3, plus you should probably flash this at least once before going to a custom ROM anyways...for reasons i wont bore you with
You can try this first up as an alternate to sammobile.com (because they limit your speed):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647
This backdoors a fast download from Sammobile...much faster
I just got it to finally work to download my ROM!
Or if you try the main sammobile.com website
If you choose to go this route, pick your country, and if you want an unbranded, no carrier bloat version, pick the one form your country with no carrier name after it in brackets, i.e. pick the one with just the 3 letter region code in brackets after it. Note: its about 1.4Gb to download, and unlike the old days sammobile will make it fricking painful to get without paying them...they throttle the download. Im on my 8th go trying to get my ROM, every time it fails you have to restart, so they soak up your data allowance the bastards, but theres nowhere else i know of to get my ROM
Or another alternate:
http://fw.updato.com/
Ok so I've decided to flash this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...om-untouched-google-play-edition-5-1-t3198177
But I'm getting confused between the meanings of rooting and flashing ROM. Do I need to "root" my phone (I would use Super SU) before flashing it? Because I'm following this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlV3plfnVA
and his recovery screen looks different than mine. Apparently, he's using clockworkMod CWM but how do I do that? So, if I root my phone first then will my recover screen look similar to his? It's confusing! Please help!
Like i said id flash a stock ROM first before going custom....GPE still counts as a custom ROM
Be sure to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67514801&postcount=1380 and more than just the front page of any ROM, this one has a few issues, i assume fixed.....
As for recovery, you should forget about Phliz (it can have issues with newer ROM's) and use TWRP instead (i used to hate TWRP, but CWM based recoveries seemingly arent being updated to fix issues lately)
I did a quick post about installing it (and fixing a potential niggle) here earlier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67769031&postcount=6
Hello @all
i run into a few Problems with my S6 Edge+ (SM-G928F).
I use it for nearly one year now with Root and Skyhigh Kernel. It started to freeze a few times a day and is in unresponsive Deep Sleep very often.
Now i want to go back to full Stock ROM via Samsung SmartSwitch or Odin. Are there any know Problems with this Method?
When I tried it nearly one year ago, someone said when the Warranty Bit is Set to 1 than the phone will stop to go to deep sleep and drain my battery like insane.
And it was like he said. So i rooted it and want to go back to Stock. Can someone Help me with this to get back?
Thank you very much for your help!
Download stock ROM for your device and flash with Odin. You can also try some other custom ROM. I am using Dr. Ketan ROM and Khongloi kernel and everything work perfect with great battery life.
Ok, I bought a new Verizon S5 in July of 2015. I rooted it a couple days later using Towelroot. The CID is 11, so it has a locked bootloader. I never had a single issue with the phone, and honestly, never thought about doing any updates, as it just kept chugging along dependable every day. I recently retired the S5, as I bought a mint, used Note 4 and fell in love with it. I am getting ready to sell the S5, but want to fully update it to 6.0.1 Marshmallow DQH2. I am not worried about losing root, as I am selling the phone, and will probably remove root anyway. I have a few questions though:
1) Can I update from Kit Kat all the way to Marshmallow and the latest update, or do I have to do it in increments?
2) Is it easier to update, then remove root?
3) What would be the easiest way to update to DQH2?
4) Since its rooted, can I just download the stock DQH2 firmware and flash it in Odin and go from KK to MM?
4A) If it can be flashed as stated above, will I lose root?
4A-1) Is there a rooted DQH2 firmware that can be flashed?
Thanks in Advance!!!
0) Check if Reactivation Lock is turned OFF.
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4) Flash this DQH2 and it will erase everything, including root.
4A) Yes.
4A-1) No.
Forget the rest of the questions.
P.S. The first boot after flashing will take 10-15 min. so be patient.
bbsc said:
0) Check if Reactivation Lock is turned OFF.
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4) Flash this DQH2 and it will erase everything, including root.
4A) Yes.
4A-1) No.
Forget the rest of the questions.
P.S. The first boot after flashing will take 10-15 min. so be patient.
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Thanks. Whats the highest I can update, and retain root? I am re-thinking things now, as the package disabler app I was using and very fond of.... has been updated, and evidently does not work like it used to. I used this app on my Note 4, and was so happy with being able to disable all the bloatware and OTA etc... that I didnt bother to root the Note 4. I thought that if I lost root upgrading the S5, I would just install the same package disabler app, so it wouldnt be a problem, as thats really the only reason I root.... to get rid of bloatware. I may want to keep root now though
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Whats the highest I can update, and retain root?
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BPB1, Android 5.0.
You may also like the idea to install a custom debloated 6.0.1 ROM without root. If you've decided not to sell the S5.
Just another viewpoint if you haven't updated the phone yet: there are buyers who look primarily for phones with earlier versions of android, and it could actually increase the value/selling chance of your phone if you keep it on an earlier version and advertise it as such.
This gives the purchaser the opportunity to install the version they might want, especially since it's relatively difficult to find a Verizon S5 (or any Verizon Samsung phone) with 1. an unlocked bootloader and 2. an earlier version of Android such as KitKat installed.
I know this doesn't necessarily answer your questions, but it might be of benefit.
Hi, I know this isn't the right forum but I can't publish in another one.
I have a SM-G935F (Exynos), and I don't like Nougat's battery life. So I wanna downgrade to marshmallow. But when I was looking how do that sometimes I had read I need to delete all Google accounts, restore the device, turn off the device, and then do wipe data/factory reset and wipe data cache and turn off again the device, to finally go to the download mode. But I too had read I only turn off the device and put the download mode.
Do I have to do all those things or do the second one?
I don't want to brick my phone.
Downgrading to a previous version might corrupt your IMEI stopping your phone from making and receiving calls, I've learned that the hard way..So better do a thorough research before taking any action.
I too don't like Nougat which makes me go back again and again to a Marshmallow build. I haven't experienced any problem going back to MM from Nougat. I just have to factory reset every time to boot up normally after flashing the MM Rom via Odin. I currently have this build on my phone with Xposed:
i have downgraded my grand 2, s7 edge W8 model multiple times. all i do is shut off the phone put it in download mode, open odin select proper files n then simply flash. note i never changed any odin settings just simply choose the right files.
i have done this with both stock n custom rom installed. never had any issues
also y not try a custom 7.0 rom. batman rom is quite good, well so is ambasadii one. haven't tried any other rom so can't say anything about others.
I Also prefer MM to N by far in terms of battery life. Never had any issues downgrading to MM from N using Odin, no special things to do other than going into download mode and flashing the MM firmware.
Only reason i had to go back to Nougat is that the carrier will cut LTE for MM starting from today (due to signal improvement processes that are not compatible with 6.0.1).
I may consider Flashing back MM and keeping the Modem from Nougat if that works.
I downgraded to Marshmallow and athough it does't seems, the battery life is a lot better in 6.0.1.
I do not like the old Emojis, but i can handle it
Howhever, the performance increases too. I'm so happy with Marshmallow.
nokss289 said:
I downgraded to Marshmallow and athough it does't seems, the battery life is a lot better in 6.0.1.
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Did you measure it. Batteries lose their capacity.
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downgraded from what?
nokss289 said:
I downgraded to Marshmallow
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downgraded from what?
DRA9 BASEBAND FIRmware?
I have SM-G930A, I think with a locked bootloader.
Currently I'm on Marshmallow and when I try to update using system update it says your device is up to date. So If I flash Nougat using Odin will I be able to downgrade back to Marshmallow If I don't like Nougat ?
Thanks
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I have SM-G930A, I think with a locked bootloader.
Currently I'm on Marshmallow and when I try to update using system update it says your device is up to date. So If I flash Nougat using Odin will I be able to downgrade back to Marshmallow If I don't like Nougat ?
Thanks
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Not with the latest nougat
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Downgrade galaxy s7 edge (G935F) from 7.0 to 6.0
Hello!
I want to downgrade my phone G935F from android 7.0 to 6.0. BUT after last update the bootloader is blocked ( odin doesnt works - the instalation cant run).
ANY SOLUTIONS????
Can be a solition if in odin i will use BL and CP from android 7.0 and AP + CSC from android 6 ?????
In this case, the phone can be rooted, afther the update from january which block the BL ????
Many tks!!!