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International version supporting phone calls and band 1 eliminated?

The Nvidia FAQ no longer lists the international version which supports LTE band 1 and phone calls. It still says there are three LTE versions of the Shield tablet but lists only 2. This may mean that Nvidia has eliminated the model. Unfortunately, that is the version I am interested in buying. I need support for band 1 and I want to be able to make phone calls.
Does anyone have any info on this?
http://shield.nvidia.com/tablet-faq/
WHAT CELLULAR NETWORKS DOES THE SHIELD TABLET LTE SUPPORT?
There are three versions of SHIELD tablet LTE. There is a North American version that works on AT&T, T-Mobile and Rogers on LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 7, and 17 and HSPA bands 1, 2, 4, 5.
There is a second International version that works on popular European and Asian networks. It supports LTE bands 3, 7, 20 and HSPA+ bands 1, 2, 5, 8.
Check with your favorite carrier to verify coverage in your area.
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PS If they actually produce the third LTE version, I would like to purchase it in the USA.
PPS The description below no longer appears in the FAQ.
The third version also works on popular International carriers, in addition to including voice support on compatible networks. It supports LTE bands 1, 3, 7, 20 and HSPA+ bands 1, 2, 5, 8.
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Explore3 said:
The Nvidia FAQ no longer lists the international version which supports LTE band 1 and phone calls. It still says there are three LTE versions of the Shield tablet but lists only 2. This may mean that Nvidia has eliminated the model. Unfortunately, that is the version I am interested in buying. I need support for band 1 and I want to be able to make phone calls.
Does anyone have any info on this?
http://shield.nvidia.com/tablet-faq/
PS If they actually produce the third LTE version, I would like to purchase it in the USA.
PPS The description below no longer appears in the FAQ.
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Well spotted.
The UK site confirms all three but perhaps that is just slow to update
http://shield.nvidia.co.uk/tablet-faq/

Could you work around this by flashing the radio from the recovery image of the LTE variant that suited you? Or is it a bit more complex than that?

The UK FAQs page has been updated. The statement "There are three versions of SHIELD tablet LTE" remains but only two versions are listed.
Typical Nvidia debacle. At least edit the statement to read 'two versions'.

is there a way to enable the Band 1? im here at the Philippines and im only getting 3G connection whilst using my Phone with same Simcard i can get LTE signals

You can still text and phone from shield; as long as you're connected..
I know this might not be the info youre looking for specifically, but...
I believe it can help some people, like it helped me
I couldnt sleep without having a chance of a phone options on this tablet until i found the solution the day 3 since owning the Shield. There is an app for this purpose on playstore, and its totally free. To some extent, still worth the try.
Look for editor choice app, after typing in "textplus" you should have it burning into your eyes upon confirming that search. textPlus Free Text + Calls
Now, i havent tried phone calls yet, you get free 5 minutes and the rest can be added free by watching 15 second videos, completing surveys, sharing on social sites etc. (Videos work decent easy , if you got time and patience you could get 100 minutes a day, if not more than that )
You register an account with them, email, simple, pick your area phone and get a number from them. Text works like a charm. Although i did not try to install any other sms app on it, only using the very app itself for messaging and it does serve its purpose well.
I hope i helped to some of you guys. No rooting, common sense simple, free. Exactly what i was looking for.

T-Mobile Band 12 Testing?

Has anyone actually tested a Moto X Pure 2015 in a T-Mobile LTE Band 12 area to see if the phone actually has T-Mobile Band 12 disabled, and how the phone handles that if so?
The Motorola website still shows LTE Band 12, with the footnote that it varies by carrier. Compare this with the Moto G, which initially showed Band 12 and then suddenly Band 12 disappeared from the Motorola specs page without any explanation from Motorola.
TIA...

I am currently on T-Mobile (Ting) in a band 12 active area, and I am only getting band 4.
I've been looking into activating all bands according to the details in some of these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211157
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-xt1097-to-xt1095-nextel-t2972693
I updated the radio on my HTC with QPST, and it looks like it might be easier with moto since the motos have a special BP Tools mode in the fastboot.
My biggest concern is that we may need a custom kernel first if the base kernel has anti-tamper code.
After I first activated on ting, my phone was stuck in HSPA+ and would not connect via LTE.
I went into the engineering/field test mode using *#*#INFO#*#* (*#*#4636#*#*) and changed the "Set preferred network type" from WCDMA preferred to LTE/GSM auto (PRL).
I also turned off "IMS Registration Required" and turned on SMS over IMS.
There is a "Select Radio Band" feature in the menu that offers 3 choices for "Set GSM/UMTS Band". The options are USA Band, Cellular, and PCS.
I have read that if you make a band selection, the only way to get it back to unspecified is to reflash your radio. This seems particularly bad for those in europe, who often disable their radios by selecting "USA Band".
I of course discovered this after already selecting a preferred band.
Maybe someone with experience with updating the radio on a Moto can weigh in here.
I would like to reflash my radio preference back to unspecified, but I'm not sure how to go about it, or if it actually matters.

Motorola says they are going to add LTE Band 12 for T-Mobile in a software update to Moto X Pure 2015.
When, is the question.
Thanks for letting us know your real world test results.

ErikHellstrom said:
I am currently on T-Mobile (Ting) in a band 12 active area, and I am only getting band 4.
Maybe someone with experience with updating the radio on a Moto can weigh in here.
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You need to basically repeat the process you did for your HTC. Enter BPTools mode. Make sure you have the drivers installed (Moto, and either their USB modem driver, or your HTC driver will work as well) and then use QXDM to update your band preference for LTE. Also, make sure to use an up to date QXDM, otherwise it won't work. From what I've heard, it's hit or miss with the 810, because they have updated their anti-tampering code from the 805, and while I haven't tried this yet myself (I'm waiting on Moto update, but only so much longer...) this would be how to get it going. Good luck!
Edit: Also, if you meant just getting your stock settings for your radio back, you can just reflash stock. If you're unlocked (bootloader), you can root, install TWRP recovery and then reflash.

ErikHellstrom, your post was about your HTC?
I am looking for real world results with stock Moto X Style (Pure) 2015 edition phones, with the initial release Android 5.1.1 shipping on these phones in September 2015.
Again: On T-Mobile, LTE Band 12, in areas with Band 12.
Thanks again for any info that anyone can provide.

Tinkerer_ said:
ErikHellstrom, your post was about your HTC?
I am looking for real world results with stock Moto X Style (Pure) 2015 edition phones, with the initial release Android 5.1.1 shipping on these phones in September 2015.
Again: On T-Mobile, LTE Band 12, in areas with Band 12.
Thanks again for any info that anyone can provide.
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No I am on MXPE1575, with T-Mobile(Ting) in a Band 12 area.
Motorola has announced plans to roll out the activation of Band 12 and VOLTE to MXPE phones, but not a date.
My understanding is that calls will fail if you are connected to Band 12 without VOLTE, because you can connect to a tower too far away to handle a traditional call.
So if you activate band 12 without activating VOLTE you may end up connecting to towers that cannot facilitate a phone call for you. Although some have said that your phone will hop over to band 4 for call notification. I don't know much about this, so I can't verify.
You should be able to edit your radio using specialized Qualcomm software to activate the radio bands and possibly the VOLTE, if you don't want to wait for the official update from motorola.
Matt at Moto forums seems to be indicating that the Moto Band 12/VOLTE activation updates will be coming quite soon.

Is there any quote or article that says it? If it's true, then I will probably end up getting the phone.

komugi said:
Is there any quote or article that says it? If it's true, then I will probably end up getting the phone.
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https://forums.motorola.com/comment/977403
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

any updates on this? i like my moto x pure so far but i'm in a band 12 area and would like to get the most out of it. i'm coming from a samsung S5 and i don't believe that had band 12

fiftythreefly said:
any updates on this? i like my moto x pure so far but i'm in a band 12 area and would like to get the most out of it. i'm coming from a samsung S5 and i don't believe that had band 12
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patience brother I am a Verizon customer and also waiting to try out tmobile (again) but with band12 to see how it works.
I test from time to time using simple mobile preloaded sim on ebay they sell on ebay for few bucks 1 place where I am almost everyday has 1 bar and no service and that is in Queens,NY inside the building but once outside signal is perfect.

patt2k said:
patience brother I am a Verizon customer and also waiting to try out tmobile (again) but with band12 to see how it works.
I test from time to time using simple mobile preloaded sim on ebay they sell on ebay for few bucks 1 place where I am almost everyday has 1 bar and no service and that is in Queens,NY inside the building but once outside signal is perfect.
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i'm just excited is all i've been with tmobile since i was 15 years old (nearly 20 years ago) and am hoping this new band 12 improves upon their service around here, but at the moment i get LTE with speeds of about 30mb/s so no complaints, but if i go south about 10 miles i lose service

Since moto has gone pure Android, can we use regular fastboot or do they still use moto-fastboot? If regular fastboot we can just flash a radio.img correct?

I just ordered a Nexus 6 (killer deal on ebay for $300 + free shipping) ... curious to see if I'll notice a big difference in signal strength/quality seeing it has Band 12 enabled. If I do, I guess I'll have a choice to make LOL

YankInDaSouth said:
I just ordered a Nexus 6 (killer deal on ebay for $300 + free shipping) ... curious to see if I'll notice a big difference in signal strength/quality seeing it has Band 12 enabled. If I do, I guess I'll have a choice to make LOL
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Never wanted nexus 6 and never will because it's just to big.
The reason why I am waiting with tmo is I need to test service at 1 place where I spend a lot of time I will actually join my friend who is on the 100$/unlimited so my line will be just 40+ tax. Unlimited everything.

Yeah, its definitely wide ... But it may likely turnout to be a "rental" unless I see substantial signal improvements
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any updates on this front yet?
thanks!

Any fix for this?
ErikHellstrom said:
I am currently on T-Mobile (Ting) in a band 12 active area, and I am only getting band 4.
I've been looking into activating all bands according to the details in some of these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211157
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-xt1097-to-xt1095-nextel-t2972693
I updated the radio on my HTC with QPST, and it looks like it might be easier with moto since the motos have a special BP Tools mode in the fastboot.
My biggest concern is that we may need a custom kernel first if the base kernel has anti-tamper code.
After I first activated on ting, my phone was stuck in HSPA+ and would not connect via LTE.
I went into the engineering/field test mode using *#*#INFO#*#* (*#*#4636#*#*) and changed the "Set preferred network type" from WCDMA preferred to LTE/GSM auto (PRL).
I also turned off "IMS Registration Required" and turned on SMS over IMS.
There is a "Select Radio Band" feature in the menu that offers 3 choices for "Set GSM/UMTS Band". The options are USA Band, Cellular, and PCS.
I have read that if you make a band selection, the only way to get it back to unspecified is to reflash your radio. This seems particularly bad for those in europe, who often disable their radios by selecting "USA Band".
I of course discovered this after already selecting a preferred band.
Maybe someone with experience with updating the radio on a Moto can weigh in here.
I would like to reflash my radio preference back to unspecified, but I'm not sure how to go about it, or if it actually matters.
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I also made the same mistake... by pressing "USA Band" outside of the US. Any way to fix this?

I have also made the same mistake of clicking on one of 3 choices in "Set GSM/UMTS Band" menu.
Does anyone know how to revert back the setting? My 2G and 3G calling is not working since then. Only LTE is working.
Thank you in advance!

Ruby H said:
I also made the same mistake... by pressing "USA Band" outside of the US. Any way to fix this?
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Reflash the radio via the Restore to stock tool, or one of the MM radios. There is an MM radio with TruPure,

ErikHellstrom said:
Reflash the radio via the Restore to stock tool, or one of the MM radios. There is an MM radio with TruPure,
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Sorry, but I'm a nubee at this :-|
Can you please send a link to 'Restore to stock tool'. Is 'MM Radio' also a software package?
Will reflashing my Moto X-PE (XT-1575) erase the IMEI number?
Will reflashing the phone void my warranty with Motorola?
Tnx!

GT-i9515 only 2g speed?

Hey everyone,
I read for hours but unfortunately I haven't been able to find the solution.
So I bought a Galaxy S4 GT-I9515 in Europe and I'm not able to get any speeds higher than 2g on my USA 4g T-mobile plan.
The network mode is set on auto connect (LTE/WCDMA/GSM). I tried setting up a t-mobile 4g APN but it won't accept it (it pops back to standard after a few seconds..)
The simcard does work at 4g on another phone.
I rooted it with chainfire autoroot but this made no difference.
Anyone have a clue? At least 3g would be nice and should be possible..

Does the gt-9515 support the carrier's 3g and 4g frequencies?

Hey, thanks for thinking along..
According to frequencycheck.com, yes (both 3g and 4g).
Also, the t-mobile store didn't make notice of this being a problem. They were horribly incompetent though (just googling everything..) But you'd think they would at least check that much.

The I9515 won't get LTE in Europe as bands 2, 4, 12, and 17 aren't used there. The best you can do is HSPA (3.5G in the US) for data. If you're not getting at least HSPA the local carrier may have throttled you.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The I9515 won't get LTE in Europe as bands 2, 4, 12, and 17 aren't used there. The best you can do is HSPA (3.5G in the US) for data. If you're not getting at least HSPA the local carrier may have throttled you.
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If I put the simcard in my old phone (moto G 1st gen) it makes an LTE connection so I'm not throttled.
I downloaded an app called LTE Discovery which doesn't read an LTE connection but says HSPA: -75.0 dBm is available.
With an internet speed test I'm only getting 770 Kbps however.

Oh, and I'm in Las Vegas currently (not in the middle of nowhere before anyone asks.. )
It's about the same speed in the Bay-area.

I misread your initial post. The fact you're not picking up LTE in Las Vegas means something else is wrong. In fact it makes me wonder if you even have an I9515. Kindly enter download mode and read off the model number please?
If things are as I suspect they are, then you're actually in possession of an I9505. My comments in my earlier post regarding LTE still apply, except it's the phone lacking the US bands instead of lacking European bands.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That you were experiencing this in the US wasn't apparent from your posts. The fact you're not picking up LTE in Las Vegas means something else is wrong. In fact it makes me wonder if you even have an I9515. Kindly enter download mode and read off the model number please?
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You're right, I mentioned the US T-mobile plan but forgot to clearly mention where the problem was occurring/where I want to use the phone (which I bought in the Netherlands). Just to be clear: I am in the USA and that's where I intend to use it.
ODIN MODE
Product Name: GT-I9515

Ok...I'm really confusing myself. For some odd reason I had the Straight Talk S4 in mind. LOL.
The I9505 and I9515 have the same bands: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20. You won't get LTE in the US on this device and are limited to HSPA here. Fortunately, HSPA is fast enough for multimedia​, so unless T-Mobile is repurposing its 3G network for LTE you should see about 4 or 5Mb a second.

Thanks for analyzing, you seem to know a lot about this.
However, the primary problem is I'm not reaching any HSPA speeds either.

I know a lot about this, as I have an I9505 and live in the US.
The phone is working properly, so speed issues are carrier related. And it's not uncommon. I've had it happen myself, on AT&T towers.

T-Mobile Band 12

Can anyone verify this actually works? Got this phone with the intention of having better coverage from band 12, but i've never seen lte discovery show anything but band 4.
I'm on the stock rom w/ magisk, anyone have advice?

Hi,
Can you help me to understand the difference between th band 12 and band 4? I am green to this.
Thanks advance!

William Guo said:
Hi,
Can you help me to understand the difference between th band 12 and band 4? I am green to this.
Thanks advance!
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In short, band 12 is a low frequency signal. The towers can broadcast huge coverage areas with the low frequency at the cost lower speed than their band 4 coverage areas. Band 12 for is great at penetrating buildings with thick walls.
Very few phones support this freq on T-mobile and I was hoping the mini could do it.

googletermsofservice said:
Can anyone verify this actually works? Got this phone with the intention of having better coverage from band 12, but i've never seen lte discovery show anything but band 4.
I'm on the stock rom w/ magisk, anyone have advice?
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Are you testing it in the same place(s) you've had other phones show band 12 on LTE discovery? Officially it should work as of the Jan 2017 update. I'm pretty sure I have had it show band 12 when I was on stock (not rooted). I don't have a way to verify this now as my Mini is on LOS which currently does not support band 12 nor Wi-Fi calling. It's also my "secondary" phone until I get time to return it to stock (or LOS gets that functionality).
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@googletermsofservice,
Thank you very much! Are there many service provider offer band 12 now? I mean, many providers such T-Mobile, ATT etc all offer band 12?

googletermsofservice said:
Can anyone verify this actually works? Got this phone with the intention of having better coverage from band 12, but i've never seen lte discovery show anything but band 4.
I'm on the stock rom w/ magisk, anyone have advice?
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Does your phone stay on LTE when making a call (VOLTE)? If yes, the phone is working on band 12.
According to these website, the A7M should work with Band 12 and VOLTE & WFC:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...ini-t-mobile-volte-december-security-patches/
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
You need to make sure your phone is on at least the Dec update, if not newer.
Spectrum gateway is pretty reliable. I would use them as a first resource when considering a non-Tmo phone. I am supposed to receive this phone tomorrow. Will update if B12/VOLTE/WFC works...

I got the phone today. I can confirm that both VOLTE and WiFi calling work on TMobile after installing the update from the ZTE website here: https://www.zteusa.com/axon-7mini#support

V20 LTE Band and Compatibility (vs995, h910)

Hello everyone! I'll start by saying I've done a lot of reading and searching, and I can't find my answers, so that's why I'm posting.
I recently acquired two LG v20s, which I intend to use as my primary daily handsets. The models are the h910 (att) and VS995 (verizon). Both have TWRP and magisk etc. I love the phones so far and everything is peachy, except one ... sordof big question/issue. LTE bands!! I've seen several people on XDA talk about the bands but I can't determine a clear answer. My first and primary question is, DOES the h910 support band 12/17?!?! Using network signal guru app, band 12 is listed. From what I understand (from what I have read) band 12 IS supported, and 17 is actually a thing of the past. If your phone has band 12, it can pick up all band 17 towers no problem, essentially meaning 12 has replaced 17. However, my h910 WILL NOT use band 12. Not if I force it, not on its own, nada. This is in places where I know band 12(17) exists, and is the strongest signal. In fact virtually everywhere, around the area I live (chattanooga TN). What actually really surprises me is that the phone gets great LTE reception everywhere I am 95% of the time, without band 12/17. I've checked numerous times (its kindof an ongoing thing...) and I've gotten every single other band, (2,4,5,30) usually with great reception and acceptable or good network speed. But never band 12. I can hold my galaxy note 4 right next to it, and the note will almost always be using band 17, and the LG refuses. Again , I can lock bands with Network signal guru, and still no bueno. If I lock the lg on only band 12, it will simply revert to HSPA.
Does anyone else have experience with this? Are other h910 users able to get band 12? Could I have a faulty handset? Is it software or hardware related? Just curious if anyone else has any info that could be helpful. I have noticed people in other random forums saying their v20 gets poor signal compared to other ATT devices, and I'm wondering if this is why (no band 12). Most people wouldn't know how to check what bands they're getting... or even know what "bands" are at all.
And a quick question about the vs995... I put an att sim in it, and got absolutely no signal at all on any band. Whats up with that?
Thanks in advance folks.

Seems US telecom companies are just weird I have 3 V20 phones that I use as 4G modem when in the country. My Vs995 worked for this for years but suddenly will not use mobile data here in Norway, tried factory reset. 1 910 that does not get phone signal at all - gave up on it, transferred screen and case to the VS995 which was worn, had broken screen. My Korean F800 with android 9 works fine. US carriers place artificial locks on bands it seems.