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Samsung BT S-Pen

Samsung has unveiled a new variant of the S-Pen, which comes bundled with all Note devices, called the BT S-Pen (BT standing for Bluetooth). It is, as far as I am aware, a regular S-Pen (albeit much larger for greater comfort) that connects to your Note device via Bluetooth and allows you to utilise it as a wireless-headset of sorts. Although bundled with pre-release test units of the Note 10.1 for journalists at their press conference, it simply utilises the regular technology of our Note 5.3 devices' S-Pens with Bluetooth to enable it to make and receive calls (meaning that it should work on the Note GT-N7000). Since one of the major complaints of the Note is the embarrassment of holding it up to your ear to make a phone call, I think this S-Pen is a fantastic accessory for the Note series. It can be charged via a Micro-USB port connected to the Note devices and apparently has 130 hours of standby time or 3 hours of talk time (not the best, but if you are like me and don't make too many calls that isn't a problem). Having been wanting a larger S-Pen to use around the house (the small one is fine out and about, but at home something larger would undeniably be more comfortable), this seems perfect. I shall be shelling out the cash for one as soon as it is available here in the UK, unless it is ridiculously priced. Who else likes the look of this?
Read the article here!

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Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.

Brad387 said:
Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.
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I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.

andreww88 said:
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I added one to an article. It also includes a video of it being demoed on the AT&T 4G version of the Galaxy Note.

andreww88 said:
I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.
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Hopefully so. Since the S2 is apparently getting Jelly Bean, there is almost a definitive chance the Note will get Jelly Bean also! Let's just hope that Samsung finally fix the brick bug, which is a great cripple towards ROM development, eh?

Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.

andreww88 said:
Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.
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It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.

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It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.
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Maybe for some people....but I won't be buying it.

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pretty cool.. hope it comes as a part of note 2...

Weird. I think I would rather be seen talking into a slightly large phone than a pen.

I don't know how practical the Bluetooth pen will be. If your talking to someone with the pen, it's going to be very hard to use it to take notes or whatever.
And one handed operation on the note 5" our 10.1" wrote holding the pen to your ear is going to be impossible to do.
I guess it's only practical if you don't want to pull out the note from your pocket.
I still think head sets or earpiece are the way to go for hands free talking
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sounds cool, but does anyone actually use the s=pen that comes with the phone ? when i was using my note as my full time phone ( dont really use it anymore ) i think i used the pen for the first 2 days and haven't pulled it out in at least 6 months

Who thinks that the Galaxy S5 is a disappointment?

I already saw the leaked images and feel that the S5 is a taller version of the S4 with ribbed back. And same cheap plastic. No go for me. I think LG or HTC will be winning?
Anyone else disappointed in what the S5 will be?

I think a lot of us are but let see what Samsung does. They are starting the announcement now. We'll have a better opinion afterwards.
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The galaxy s1, 2, and 4 all seemed to be big leaps from the prior generation to me. The s3 at the least inherited a whole new design language. I love Sammy but the s5 seems to be a huuuuuge let down. It's not really their fault, most processor, screen, and camera improvements in the last year have been modest. But a let down nonetheless
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I'm not at all impressed with the design of it. I expected something new with it. To me, this does not feel new. The whole Galaxy Gear and Fit stuff, don't care too much about either.
Now let's go with what I am impressed with. Just from seeing the UI, and hearing it's not packed full of useless S branded crap is a huge plus to me. The fingerprint scanner is pretty nice too.
I know people aren't too keen on Knox, but I'm hoping Samsung did improve on Knox for the corporate sector. The school district I manage the cell phone service for has upgrades coming in a month or two for 90% of the lines, and depending how Knox's security is, this is going to be a deciding factor in the new mobile purchases.

Maybe the version that leaked isn't the premium version. I will pass judgement once the device is officially announced.

I don't like the increases in size and weight, considering it only gets a 0.1" larger screen. The bezels look larger than the S4. Keeping the RAM at 2GB and 16-32GB storage (and, if the past is any indication, 16GB will be the only one readily available) for the 3rd straight generation, while the Note has increased to 3GB/32GB minimum, indicates that this is no longer their flagship phone. I had an S2, skipped the S3, now have an S4, and will skip the S5. Smallest increase in overall specs in the 'S' series yet. Water resistance is nice, but not that big a deal to me. USB3 is a nice upgrade, but that's the only thing that really jumps out at me. Camera is better, but I don't use a camera that much anyways, so doesn't matter to me. VERY happy they are continuing the use of SD cards & removable batteries, though. If I lost my S4 it would be a toss-up for me between the S5 & Note3.

no FM radio
Lack of FM radio is a disappointment. Still prefere phones with good old fashion radio receiver.

i expected more bang, but i guess jumping from my s2 to an s5 is indeed a huge gain!

The design is just...terrible.

I'm glad I purchased a Note 3. The GS5 looks too big to not be in the Note family.

Same RAM, lower perceived screen resolution, same design, really weird UI redesign. Not impressed. Should have been called GS4+
As for the next HTC phone, I have a feeling it will be a disappointment as well.

Baldilocks said:
Same RAM, lower perceived screen resolution, same design, really weird UI redesign. Not impressed. Should have been called GS4+
As for the next HTC phone, I have a feeling it will be a disappointment as well.
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3 phones I'm interested in, the Z2 (never owned a Sony phone, it may be time), the G3 and iPhone 6. The S5 is a good phone but it just improved the S4. It's a marriage between the S4 and S4 active in what the S4 should have been in the first place. I think if I say S4 once more I'm gonna puke....
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It look like a plan B device. Plan A failed for some reason!!
These specs are unacceptable

Everyone was hyping it to be the next best thing. Even a Samsung exec said that they understood how they failed to innovate with the S4. I even expected it to have the 2k resolution screen and camera with OIS since LG was able to do it a few months ago. Samsung sure made the people who bought the Note 3 feel good about their purchases.

qipengart said:
I already saw the leaked images and feel that the S5 is a taller version of the S4 with ribbed back. And same cheap plastic. No go for me. I think LG or HTC will be winning?
Anyone else disappointed in what the S5 will be?
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Agreed
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LoL @ Samsung
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Hahahhahahahahaha
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"S5" Better call it S4+. Gonna wait to see the Premium version. The design itself nothing new. and the Specs are not terrible (2gb RAM) compared to GN3.

Wait so what is better?

horrid.!! Guess I'm going from 5s to 6. I had high hopes this would bring me back to Android.

Loyal samsung fan for last 3 years. Used all S series and then Note series too. Always loved Samsung but today I just want to cry. Samsung has let me down big big time. Used to make fun of iphone for identical crap but now the time is coming back on me...
The Next Big Thing is the Next Flop Thing...
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Are you planning to 'keep' your G4?

Seeing as the G4 was released days ago I'm sure a lot of us are still within the 'buyers remorse' period, which leads me to the question, myself included.
Are you planning on keeping yours even if say root won't be available?
I'm on Tmobile, and used my jump (1) coming from the Note 4 and still trying to decide whether or not to keep the G4. To me it definitely feels better in hand and more compact. Plenty fast, camera is great but I am hoping for root as I'd want to disable some crap.
What's everyone else thinking?

I'm on those that don't care about root, so yeah i bought G4 to keep it as my 2015 phone and next year let's see what's up for me .
And i'm loving this phone in all ways so yeah, i'm not even thinking a bit about returning it.

I'm keeping it no matter what happens! Best phone ever 100000%!
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I'm thinking I'll return it. If not for the fact that I'm on Verizon and most likely the BL will remain locked, then because the WiFi load speeds suck. I get 40mb down on my 5ghz router yet the load times on Web pages are horrible. There is definitely something wrong with WiFi.

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I'm keeping it no matter what happens! Best first ever 100000%!
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This is everything I could ask for in a phone. I don't see myself even upgrading next year. I don't know what I could even want extra. I only text my gf and family and browse the web and take pictures for self pleasure. I don't feel the need to spend another 600 on a phone. Keeping my g3 as a backup phone and possibly selling it if the price is right.

Love the phone. Only slightly better than the G3 in my opinion but thats still pretty darn good. Camera is amazing though and the rear speaker is loud and powerful. I'll be keeping it.

Love the phone since turning off fast dormancy fixed my battery problems, it's superior to my s5 in all respects now the s6 was just that one step too much like an iPhone for me and HTC pissed me off when they used to promise device updates and not deliver by uturning at the last moment. Only thing I'm waiting on its a decent gen 3 Android wear watch to launch. And root is no good to me as my banking app will not install to a rooted device due to security issues.

Even though this thing was totally an impulse buy (stopped at Best Buy Thursday to check out a floor model and ended up buying), I'm actually extremely satisfied. I think a lot of keeping or returning depends on the device you're coming from. For me, this screen blows the Nexus 6's out of the water in terms of brightness, color, and clarity. The size is more manageable and I'm not dealing with random app crashes (especially the google play services issues for the past couple weeks).
For the past few years, I've never had a preference between AMOLED or LCD, but I think this finally did it. I can't think of too many screens I've looked at days after purchase and still thought it was an absolute joy to look at.
I'm on AT&T and I can't say that root or no root bothers me too much. It's fun to tinker with new roms, but I don't have any real reason for root. I couldn't stand not having a notification light on the Nexus 6, so I needed root for that. The only thing I miss is being able to change my emojis to match my wife's S5. Another reason I enjoy root and unlocked bootloader is in case poor updates come out, then I can usually revert.
For reference, I've owned many phone in the past year and a half. Some short that got returned or sold and some for longer periods. Moto X 2013, Note 3, Nexus 5, Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy S5, G3, Galaxy S6, Nexus 6, and finally the G4.

I am getting it swapped out with Tmobile. Heat, lag, etc. Hope 2nd time's the charm...

I think im gonna keep it. I just ordered a bunch of stuff for it like quick charger, cases....
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I'm pretty much set for another year. G3 before this and i avoided all the other temptations that came out before the G4 got here. I feel like i can do the same until next year.

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Love the phone since turning off fast dormancy fixed my battery problems, it's superior to my s5 in all respects now the s6 was just that one step too much like an iPhone for me and HTC pissed me off when they used to promise device updates and not deliver by uturning at the last moment. Only thing I'm waiting on its a decent gen 3 Android wear watch to launch. And root is no good to me as my banking app will not install to a rooted device due to security issues.
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Isn't fast dormancy beneficial to have on?
When I checked mine it's status was unknown, disabled it for now to see what happens.

Was told or read it's only beneficial if your carrier supports it else it generates Wake locks
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that Was My g4 with it on no real use pretty much standby.
After I switched it off I'm calling my carrier on Monday to confirm if they support FD.

Who's your carrier?

I'm probably swapping for another G4 with Tmobile on Monday. Outside chance I get something else instead, but I really want the G4 to work out. I'm having touchscreen issues and my battery life isn't great.

The reviews wowed me much more than the actual phone, which isn't that but of an upgrade. Yeah, the camera is amazing but I barely use them. The screen is really nice and it is pretty quick though.
I'm keeping it but there are a few things I wish were changed, mostly small annoyances like having to swipe to unlock the phone after clicking a notification or the swipe to unlock message altogether.

How do you disable fast dormancy?

My carrier is 3UK.

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How do you disable fast dormancy?
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Go to dialer, and push in: 277634#*#
Then find fast dormancy and disable.

I'm really on the fence. I've been waiting for the G4 for a while, but discovered at the last minute that Best Buy didn't offer the leather cases for Verizon. I bought the gray one anyhow ($100 gift card), THEN discovered that Verizon had removed several software features such as Themes and Smart Settings. Finally, I was originally concerned about the size of the phone, since I felt that the G3 was the maximum size I would want. The G4 isn't much longer, but it is wider (so wide that it doesn't fit into my car clip). It didn't seem that big in the store, but once I put a case on it, it seemed to fall into the "phablet" category. Throw in a battery life that's not as impressive as advertised, and buyer's remorse starts creeping in.
It's a nice phone, but it's not that much of an improvement over my G3 to completely win me over. I'll give it another week and a half, but at this point I doubt I'll keep it.

[Q] Where do we go next from the OPO?

I can't seem to desire any other phone. I love the display, I love the size. Speed is good. Battery is very good (running stock CM). Not to mention the price.
Also - I love the hardware buttons (I think software buttons - like in the nexus 6p for example - are a waste of screen real estate).
Anyone upgraded and was happy doing so?

I'm in the same boat as you, my phone is almost 2 years old now but i feel no need to upgrade. Unless you live in a area with faster than 150mbs lte, want a finger print scanner, or a crystal clear screen, i would just keep it until the op4.

Had the One for just over a year now and don't feel the need for an upgrade. When I do end up upgrading this phone, it will not be another OnePlus device. The 2 and X have shown little improvements as successors to the One. There will be better options when the time comes

The OPO really opened me up to the modding capabilities of android. As so many people had grabbed the phone and experimented, there was lots of support. CyanogenMod was a key factor in my decision to get it, and I agree with @kenboyles72 : The 2 and X haven't improved enough for me to want to upgrade.
Also, there's nothing wrong with the OPO, even two years old. It still outperforms most of my mates devices

will be a better unit. BUT not that too soon.
opo will be still outstanding unit at least few more years.
Used to handle HTC models prior to opo
really appreciated opo unit.
appropriate in many ways.

I'm going to wait for the OnePlus 3 to see what it has in store, and if the price is high or it doesn't impress me with it's design and such, I'm going with the Xiaomi Mi5. I mean 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 820, Fingerprint Scanner, Marshmallow, Good Camera, Awesome design and 64GB of storage for ~700AUD, I'm sold.

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I'm going to wait for the OnePlus 3 to see what it has in store, and if the price is high or it doesn't impress me with it's design and such, I'm going with the Xiaomi Mi5. I mean 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 820, Fingerprint Scanner, Marshmallow, Good Camera, Awesome design and 64GB of storage for ~700AUD, I'm sold.
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Is it bootloader unlocked? Or do you plan on staying on stock for several months hoping for some AOSP support only to switch again? Most of the time it's better to wait and see how popular a device is before buying as the more popular a device is the more likely it is to get a good development scene
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Is it bootloader unlocked? Or do you plan on staying on stock for several months hoping for some AOSP support only to switch again? Most of the time it's better to wait and see how popular a device is before buying as the more popular a device is the more likely it is to get a good development scene
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Boot loader is locked and honestly I don't care. I don't care what Android skin I use, everyone makes a big fuss about oh I can use this and ew Touchwiz and what not and honestly I don't care. I use Google Messenger for texting, Snapchat, Reddit and Facebook Messenger. I'd be lucky to make an hour of phone calls a week. I install Google Now Launcher on the device and an icon pack, the main interaction I have with MIUI is the status bar and recents apps menu. Like looking at this, you wouldn't even know it was MIUI underneath.
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OP3 or whatever ~5" Nexus device(s) come out this year.

Went to a Nexus 5x already, but keep leaning back to the OPO that's still lying around.

After The opo will be useless at 2018 i will looking into new battery techs

i was thinking to Nexus 6p, but I've see now the 820's snapdragon devices.... So I think I will wait for sure the next Nexus, if it will be nice i will buy that... And obviously, have a look to opo4

I'm waiting on the note 6... after it gets a custom recovery.

One plus 3 ( if specifications equal or above opo ).

Maybe mi5 when price drops or Next Nexus, opo is still uncomparable as price/quality ratio

Using this thing until it is too slow to use day to day...did this with my HTC g2 and m7. When they start to lag behind too much and battery dies too often, it was upgrade time. I always make sure lots of memory is free for performance.
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thus is cool but i am worried if there is hope of android o for us with this one or any good custom roms or any new holy **** kernels as i donot see dev with opo2 then what with opo3 opo 4 will dim

S7 Edge on Tmobile's buy one get one free deal.

I was just browsing the subforum and happened to come across this. I personally own the X which is essentially a more compact One with an AMOLED screen and expandable storage.
I would say keep the One. It's a great phone and if you compare performance of the X to the one, I'd say that there isn't a reason for you to upgrade to anything at all. If you must, go for the X. It's really a side grade if anything as both devices level one another out on terms of HW, but in all honesty, keep what you have. You guys have the best ROMs, the best revision of the 801, and the best kernels after all. Enjoy what you have.

I've had inconsistent performance with the GPS on my OPO. I'm really tempted to get a 5X now that it's $200 (plus that first month of service, right?). Didn't know how important the GPS would be to me.

Shall i upgrade to S7 Edge From Note 4 ?!

Dear All,
I have Galaxy Note 4 since March 2015 , it still works fine and almost as a new ,, got a new battery a month ago due to the fail of the old one and all working just fine. i was always a fan of Note Series from Samsung and used Note 2 , 3 and 4
I liked the S7 Edge and all reviews are positive for it , the bigger battery and better camera - despite lower MP - but it's enough.
I just feel bored from the Note 4 and i want to get a new device , although i didn't like the edge screen while playing with friends S6 Edge but i guess it's time to try something different.
Do you think that i shall upgrade ? i may sell the Note 4 - will be half price of S7 edge BTW - or give it to my brother or mom as i really still like it
For those who using the dual sim version ,, how is battery life with you while using the dual sim ?!
Thank You !

I went from from Note 4 to the S7 Edge for practically the same reasons as you stated. I wanted something new, bit bored of the Note 4 etc etc.
I've had the S7 Edge for about a month now. No regrets at all. It's a fantastic phone, great battery, themes are really cool, you can change the DPI without root. In fact it's the first phone haven't rooted.
I kept my Note 4 for myself. I use it to watch Netflix at night, as it's a slightly bigger screen and the speakers are better (something to do with the S7 being waterproof)
I have the dual sim version

Do it! You won't regret it.
I upgraded to S7E and just giving the N910C to my wife. I'm loving the S7E, very smooth, feature rich and with great battery life!

I would wait for the Note 6, if rumors are right it would be amazing device with more improvement than S7, defiantly wait for Note 6.
Other than that S7E is the best phone atm and maybe one of the best ever made, it has some performance issues with certain games but other than that it's unbeatable by anything.

I upgraded from Note 5 and really happy i did it.
You wont regret it.

I had the Note 4 (N910f) before as well. Now I have theS7 edge (G935f). I modded the Note 4 very much and felt like I had done everything and was bored. What I also didn't like was the build quality. Of course it had this metal bezel but thats it.
Would I choose the S7 edge again? definitely Yes! The quality is superb. I think it is the first Samsung device that is worth its money regarding its build quality.
I don't really miss the pen, even if I liked the app integration. The water resistent feature is awesome as well. My Xperia Z had it and since then I missed it. I was making underwater videos and pictures in a pool for example. But the key factor is for me the camera. Before I had the S7 edge I didn't even think of taking photos in the dark. This is so cool being able to make photos on partys etc.... I am right now on a semester abroad in Spain and people spending their life here outside all day and night. So I really do a lot of photos and I don't miss a DSLR or whatsoever... I will add two photos I made to show it.
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But I would definitely use a case. because otherwise you might touch the edge unintentional. I use the original Samsung leather case --> best choice imho

i would like to hear from someone who have the dual sim version , what is it's processor Exynos or SD , What about the battery life while using the dual sim ?
Thanks @Sunfl4sh to compare against Note 4 , it's really a hard choice to ditch the Note series , specially i will pay twice the price of Note 4 if i managed to Sell it
The photos looks amazing ,, if you can post more photos it will be appreciated
Thanks all for your fast feedback, appreciated

The S7 camera will blow the Note 4 one, no worries there

is it true that i can flash the FD version with F firmware with no problem ??

I also switched from Note 4 to S7 Edge, love the change. Water resistance is a plus and both cameras are great but the S7 one is a bit better.
Also, I just noticed how heavy the N4 really was! The difference is huge.
I do miss the s-pen sometimes, but I still have the N4 so I can always use it whenever I want.

I did. I was a bit unsure about moving to a non-note device but I ended up getting the S7 Edge at a decent price!
I installed all of my apps, launchers etc and it flies.
It's the ONLY phone I've ever had that hasn't been rooted etc.
I personally would say upgrade to the S7 Edge.
It's fantastic, and dude, the camera really is fantastic; it's shockingly good.

So all of you says that it's better to move from Note 4 to S7 Edge ?!
Any one tried the Dual SIM version ?!

I've asked the same question

My sister gave me her S7E as she moved up to the S8. I'm supposed to give my N4 to my nephew who will give his S5 to my mum! I thought would be easy to let go of my N4...it's not!!!

I went from note 4 to note 5... my dad has my note 4 my wife has my note 5 and this s7edge is great espeically with an s8 ROM but i kinda do miss the size of the notes my reccomendation would be to wait for the Note8 OR if you dont wanna pay that ridiculous price then sure get an s7e
i also reccomend the note 5 if it works out cheaper for you

I've just upgraded to a S7 Edge from a Note 4 and although the former is slimmer, lighter, has a gimmicky edge, a better low light camera and a more precise fingerprint sensor I don't think It's worth twice the price (used) as a Note 4. Personally I would wait and see if you can get a refurbished (non exploding) Note 7 re-issue later this Year - for half the price it was new -