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x10 has been on the charger for over an hour, still sitting at 1%, lol
when i went to bed at 2:40am, it was at 40%, woke up at 7:30am to 14%, got to work at 8:45am, it was at 4%. been plugged in since about 9am (10:19am now), and it's still at 1%. red LED is on, phone works, but shuts down shortly after unplugging it.
nothing running in the background, airplane mode on.
don't know if it's the battery, or the phone, but it's going back today. and i'll be getting something other than the x10. probably something other than android at this point (4th android device).
this is really weird since i have never had a battery issue up until this morning. the battery always lasted atleast a day an a half.
Is there really an os superior to android at this point?
webos is pretty killer but palm phones suck so far (though the hp pre 3 looks incredible)
at this point?
no
in the future for some current os?
yes
i'm not looking superiorority, just something else.
*UPDATE:
plugged the cable into a different usb slot, apparently that was the problem, lol. it's up to 4% now.
svtfmook said:
at this point?
no
in the future for some current os?
yes
i'm not looking superiorority, just something else.
*UPDATE:
plugged the cable into a different usb slot, apparently that was the problem, lol. it's up to 4% now.
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I suggest you to charge in the wall socket. Usb is way too slow.
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Its happen to me once a while especially when I change my Rom...What I do is turn off my phone and pull out the battery for few minutes and put it back and charge it..If the battery do not heat up when you charge then the battery is charging but if it become hot than usual repeat same procedure..
G-FACE said:
I suggest you to charge in the wall socket. Usb is way too slow.
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yeah, but wall charging discharges faster. slow trickle charging is better for the battery.
svtfmook said:
yeah, but wall charging discharges faster. slow trickle charging is better for the battery.
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This is not true. You can see how my phone is going charged in wall socket.
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if you're going to use usb, then expect it to charge slow, also charging it via plug is better and doesn't discharge faster :\
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This is not true. You can see how my phone is going charged in wall socket.
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You're correct... the only reason it would appear to discharge quicker is because of the added heat as the phone/battery gets warmer when using the wall charger.
Otherwise the discharge rate would be exactly the same for both methods
Well...u could try "OFF mode" charging. 2.2. see that works or nt...
Svt try this, this works for me.
Flash back too 2.1 stock s.e fw. Go charge for 100% .
It should fix the problem.
When you flash custom rom clean bat stat. Note- dont clean bat stat again when your in a running custom rom.
I have this problem too on j's rom v12. im 100% charged, and try to plug again the charger its charging but the bat is decreasing, weird hehe.
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fiscidtox said:
You're correct... the only reason it would appear to discharge quicker is because of the added heat as the phone/battery gets warmer when using the wall charger.
Otherwise the discharge rate would be exactly the same for both methods
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It gets warm but not so much. And very important thing is when you charge in wall to turn off charging right after it reaches 100%. It's not healthy to leave it in.
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It gets warm but not so much. And very important thing is when you charge in wall to turn off charging right after it reaches 100%. It's not healthy to leave it in.
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it gets much warmer than by usb as the current is double....
That's why it would appear to discharge quicker until the battery cools down.
fiscidtox said:
it gets much warmer than by usb as the current is double....
That's why it would appear to discharge quicker until the battery cools down.
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Exactly!
According to my experience, that is the only difference between charging via USB and on the wall. If you do the latter, it appears to be discharging faster at first, but after it settles, it holds the charge just as well.
Ok, you can see my battery temp when charging trough wall socket. When not charging the temp is about 34 degree. So wall charging doesn't make the phone too heat more than a usb.
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I beg to differ..mine is much warmer on the wall charger than when charged via usb... Especially during the end of the charge
Rather dramatic title!
I was expecting an equally dramatic story, but pfft! haha
svtfmook said:
x10 has been on the charger for over an hour, still sitting at 1%, lol
when i went to bed at 2:40am, it was at 40%, woke up at 7:30am to 14%, got to work at 8:45am, it was at 4%. been plugged in since about 9am (10:19am now), and it's still at 1%. red LED is on, phone works, but shuts down shortly after unplugging it.
nothing running in the background, airplane mode on.
don't know if it's the battery, or the phone, but it's going back today. and i'll be getting something other than the x10. probably something other than android at this point (4th android device).
this is really weird since i have never had a battery issue up until this morning. the battery always lasted atleast a day an a half.
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Do yu have custom rom?
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Hiya guys. Long time lurker but gonna pop that cherry today.
Was curious as to how many of you leave this phone fast charging overnight? I know its a smart charger and all that good stuff.
For an hour of charge i dont mind staying up for it since it prevents any damage that may happen. But i mainly do it to baby the battery.
i used the wireless one so it trickle charges and keeps battery in good condition. Fast charging will degrade it faster,
irzero said:
i used the wireless one so it trickle charges and keeps battery in good condition. Fast charging will degrade it faster,
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Do you have any proof to back this up?
I've had the Note 4 since January and have been fast charging it over night every day since then and I haven't had any issues whatsoever still running with excellent battery life. I'm now using the S6 Edge+ and wouldn't think it would be a problem. The power cuts out once the battery reaches max so it shouldn't try and fast charge a full battery.
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Do you have any proof to back this up?
I've had the Note 4 since January and have been fast charging it over night every day since then and I haven't had any issues whatsoever still running with excellent battery life. I'm now using the S6 Edge+ and wouldn't think it would be a problem. The power cuts out once the battery reaches max so it shouldn't try and fast charge a full battery.
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It's a well known fact that fast charging is bad for battery condition. The electrodes degrade and corrode and the higher amps required for fast charging will contribute to the issue. I fast charge my note 3 and I'm on my 3rd battery now and this is starting to show decreased life.
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sandeepsb said:
Do you have any proof to back this up?
I've had the Note 4 since January and have been fast charging it over night every day since then and I haven't had any issues whatsoever still running with excellent battery life. I'm now using the S6 Edge+ and wouldn't think it would be a problem. The power cuts out once the battery reaches max so it shouldn't try and fast charge a full battery.
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Me too. My Note 4 was always on the fast charger and no obvious signs of deterioration. I am pretty sure Samsung has considered any issues, especially in a phone with a fixed battery, as they put Fast Charging very high on their list of selling point features.
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I use my fast charger over night and have noticed when it reaches 100% the lightening icon that shows on the battery icon when charging goes away. So there must be some sort of electronic protection built into the phone
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Of course it stops charging. Lol
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Yeah. I still have the voice in the back of my head making me not let it charge overnight. The smart charger is nice to know it stops it from charging the battery, but still leaving the chance of having it fail in the middle of the night while its still connected to your phone is worrying to me. Even more that it pumps more voltage like a monster then any other wall charger i have.
Do you let your battery drop down to 5% before connecting the charger? Or do you charge every moment you get the chance to keep battery at max?
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Battery łasts a long time as it usually goes off the charger at 7 a.m. I charge it while sleeping. Occasionally out of habit I will charge it while I'm driving in the car but for about 15 minutes. Otherwise, I am very happy with the battery.
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markwebb said:
Battery my a long time as it usually goes off the charger at 7 a.m. I charge it while sleeping. Occasionally out of habit I will charge it while I'm driving in the car but for about 15 minutes. Otherwise, I am very happy with the battery.
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I'm not an expert, but all I've heard is charging over night or after it hits 100% is bad. Why I don't know, but I try to charge my phone when it reaches everywhere from 15-30 to 95-100 then remove the charger.
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I'm not constantly on my phone, so usually charge it up to 80% and recharge when it drops to 40%. I only charge it to 100% when I am out and about for the whole day. See the following link for charging advice:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-charge-phones-battery-3619623/
Namyep said:
I'm not an expert, but all I've heard is charging over night or after it hits 100% is bad. Why I don't know, but I try to charge my phone when it reaches everywhere from 15-30 to 95-100 then remove the charger.
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Overcharging won't happen on a advanced device like the S7.
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Namyep said:
I'm not an expert, but all I've heard is charging over night or after it hits 100% is bad. Why I don't know, but I try to charge my phone when it reaches everywhere from 15-30 to 95-100 then remove the charger.
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Nah, that's old news. Modern chargers and devices know when they've hit 100%, so they stop charging at that point and lets the battery dip down to 98-99% before trickle charging up to 100 again, and so on until you unplug. It's completely safe, and you shouldn't trust all those garbage click-bait articles out there. Do not, however, go down to 0% before you recharge it. That can actually damage the cells in your battery, so plug it into the charger before that. If you notice some funky behavior from the battery, like if it's jumping from 30% to 20% in five minutes, or is stuck at 10% for an hour, then it's a good idea to completely drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery since the OS has no idea how much battery is left (so it knows where 0 is again). This will usually happen after flashing a different ROM. Charge it up to 100 again and it should be back to normal.
I personally charge it normally at night, without quick charge, since there's no point in having it quick charge while I'm a sleep for around 8 hours. I'll only quick charge it in the middle of the day, which is almost never, since the battery is freakin' awesome.
Don't worry about the battery too much, but don't reach 0% too often, and you'll be good. By too often, I mean every 3-4 months or so is OK. I base these things from my Sony device which I've had for almost 3 years. The (sealed in) battery was very good out-of-the-box, and it's still very good after nearly three years, so I won't mess with a proven success.
To be safe on the longevity of the battery I use one of these with my wireless charger :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003P...mer+outlet&dpPl=1&dpID=31OAEbif0lL&ref=plSrch
My battery is usually around 30-40% at the end of the day. I use the regular speed Samsung Charging Pad and set the timer on this outlet for 3 hours when I go to bed. So after 3 hours it stops charging and I don't have to worry about the possibility of damaging the battery (I know about trickle charging, but I think this is better)
Ive read somewhere that the new s7 edge charger doesnt have a power inverter so it keeps charging and wasting power which could damage the charger or possibly device. So know if thats correct.
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To be safe on the longevity of the battery I use one of these with my wireless charger :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003P...mer+outlet&dpPl=1&dpID=31OAEbif0lL&ref=plSrch
My battery is usually around 30-40% at the end of the day. I use the regular speed Samsung Charging Pad and set the timer on this outlet for 3 hours when I go to bed. So after 3 hours it stops charging and I don't have to worry about the possibility of damaging the battery (I know about trickle charging, but I think this is better)
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I just purchased one of those...thanks for the advice. I charge my device when get around 20%-30% of battery and left charging over night ( when sleeping) on my standard Samsung wireless charging. My battery is just ok.. I'm not so heavy user and sometimes I have to charge around 8pm or so. I take off from the charger at 100% all morning around 8am.
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At home. I do wireless when ever i can. If im not using the phone then i sit it on a wireless charger.
Battery hasnt drop pass 30% in the week i had the phone.
My note edge would drop pretty low because i didnt use wireless charging. So my phone would just sit in my pocket slowly draining.
ssgunner20 said:
Ive read somewhere that the new s7 edge charger doesnt have a power inverter so it keeps charging and wasting power which could damage the charger or possibly device. So know if thats correct.
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Whatever you read, either you misunderstood, or the person that typed it was a bumbling idiot. A power inverter converts DC power to AC. Your source/utility power is already AC. A USB charger is merely an AC adapter made for USB. The phone has integrated circuitry that controls when and when not to charge the battery and at what amperage.
I usually let mine get to around 5% everytime. Then charge it back fully to 100%.
J.Biden said:
Nah, that's old news. Modern chargers and devices know when they've hit 100%, so they stop charging at that point and lets the battery dip down to 98-99% before trickle charging up to 100 again, and so on until you unplug. It's completely safe, and you shouldn't trust all those garbage click-bait articles out there. Do not, however, go down to 0% before you recharge it. That can actually damage the cells in your battery, so plug it into the charger before that. If you notice some funky behavior from the battery, like if it's jumping from 30% to 20% in five minutes, or is stuck at 10% for an hour, then it's a good idea to completely drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery since the OS has no idea how much battery is left (so it knows where 0 is again). This will usually happen after flashing a different ROM. Charge it up to 100 again and it should be back to normal.
I personally charge it normally at night, without quick charge, since there's no point in having it quick charge while I'm a sleep for around 8 hours. I'll only quick charge it in the middle of the day, which is almost never, since the battery is freakin' awesome.
Don't worry about the battery too much, but don't reach 0% too often, and you'll be good. By too often, I mean every 3-4 months or so is OK. I base these things from my Sony device which I've had for almost 3 years. The (sealed in) battery was very good out-of-the-box, and it's still very good after nearly three years, so I won't mess with a proven success.
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Thanks for the details information. I figured the technology is so advanced with batteries that overcharging is in the past.
t12icky0 said:
I usually let mine get to around 5% everytime. Then charge it back fully to 100%.
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+1 :good:
J.Biden said:
Nah, that's old news. Modern chargers and devices know when they've hit 100%, so they stop charging at that point and lets the battery dip down to 98-99% before trickle charging up to 100 again, and so on until you unplug. It's completely safe, and you shouldn't trust all those garbage click-bait articles out there. Do not, however, go down to 0% before you recharge it. That can actually damage the cells in your battery, so plug it into the charger before that. If you notice some funky behavior from the battery, like if it's jumping from 30% to 20% in five minutes, or is stuck at 10% for an hour, then it's a good idea to completely drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery since the OS has no idea how much battery is left (so it knows where 0 is again). This will usually happen after flashing a different ROM. Charge it up to 100 again and it should be back to normal.
I personally charge it normally at night, without quick charge, since there's no point in having it quick charge while I'm a sleep for around 8 hours. I'll only quick charge it in the middle of the day, which is almost never, since the battery is freakin' awesome.
Don't worry about the battery too much, but don't reach 0% too often, and you'll be good. By too often, I mean every 3-4 months or so is OK. I base these things from my Sony device which I've had for almost 3 years. The (sealed in) battery was very good out-of-the-box, and it's still very good after nearly three years, so I won't mess with a proven success.
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I reach 5% max, is it a problem for the battery's life?
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I reach 5% max, is it a problem for the battery's life?
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Not at all, but just try to not discharge the battery completely to the point where it turns itself off. It won't ruin the battery to the point where you actually notice it there, but it's better if you just turn the phone off if you're able to (unless it's an emergency, of course).
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Not at all, but just try to not discharge the battery completely to the point where it turns itself off. It won't ruin the battery to the point where you actually notice it there, but it's better if you just turn the phone off if you're able to (unless it's an emergency, of course).
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I never discharge the battery completely, like I said I use until battery is max at 5% [emoji3]
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I charge it when it hits 20%. But i dont use the fast charging unless i need a quick top up
Does it hurt the battery to charge the phone with a different charger ?
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I never used the fast charging, I think that slowly charging a battery is better for the lifetime. Most of the time it is below 10 % before I plug it in and I also want it to be at 100% and ready (green LED) when I unplug it.
my note 3 battery is still superb and I got the phone since 2013
Best way to keep a battery in good health is to charge it to full before you start using it. Also, try and never charge it until it's less than 50%. Charging it overnight is perfectly fine it won't hurt anything but once ina while, at least say once a month let the battery drain all the way, try to turn it back on if it goes off sometimes there is still some juice left and it might start up, once it won't start anymore try and charge it without turning it on to full. I wouldn't do it more than say a couple times a month any more than that is overkill and may do more harm than good. These are the guidelines I use and I have never had battery issues. I currently am waiting for my S7 Edge and on my Nexus 6 I usually get 48+ hours with 4+ hours SoT. I'm just an average user currently.
I've been leaving my phone on this wireless Qi charger overnight: http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Yootech-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00NWMI07S
When I pick it up in the morning, the phone is still warm...Not hot, but warm. I guess I would expect current to shut off once the battery reaches 100%, and the phone to be cool.
If I plug it in overnight, the phone is cool in the morning like I'd expect.
Will leaving the phone on the Qi charger pad for long periods of team degrade battery life?
Not sure about the long term effects on the battery but mine is also warm after changing overnight on a TYLT VU wireless charger. It's a standard speed not fast.
I believe that if you leave it on the charger while you sleep, once it hits 100% it continues to trickle charge to keep the battery at 100%. Because there is no real way to transfer electricity without heat being released, that is why the phone continues to stay warm.
I have the same issue, but my Nexus 5 and S6E never had that issue.. Makes me wonder.
This is the correct answer. Once it hits 100% it will stop but will still "trickle" charge which keeps the battery at (or close to) 100%. Therefore the charger is still working and causing the phone to be hot. It is not an "issue" as pointed out by someone.
Charging my S7 Edge using Samsung official charger and noticed the same thing.
How does one explain why this does not happen with other phones? Namely my Nexus 5 and S6E
There are so many options.
Superfast charging I find amazing. Quick plugin and the phone is back up to about 80% battery in no time at all.
Fast is ok. Just a little slower.
Standard is slow, it just ticks over.
I also notice that it appears to stop charging when the battery is full. Although I've stopped leaving my phone plugged in overnight.
But, I read that superfast might damage the battery and that's why it defaults to off. It's not a quick switch to enable/disable, so it's a decision to have fast or superfast on.
Or is life too short to worry?
sjrixon said:
There are so many options.
Superfast charging I find amazing. Quick plugin and the phone is back up to about 80% battery in no time at all.
Fast is ok. Just a little slower.
Standard is slow, it just ticks over.
I also notice that it appears to stop charging when the battery is full. Although I've stopped leaving my phone plugged in overnight.
But, I read that superfast might damage the battery and that's why it defaults to off. It's not a quick switch to enable/disable, so it's a decision to have fast or superfast on.
Or is life too short to worry?
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Even if super charging would make the battery loose efficiency over time, I don't think it will be a noticeable problem during first owners time with the phone. I will upgrade in less than 18 months and I think most ppl upgrade within 2 years.
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Fast wireless charger most of the time, but I did buy a couple super fast wired chargers to scatter around when I'm in a time crunch
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Super Fast wireless charging all day everyday. I haven't plugged a cable into a phone since 2018. Battery life is solid so I'm never in a rush to charge a phone. Wireless is quick enough. I love the convenience of just throwing it in the stand without having to find the cable and stick it into the port. Especially in a dark room.
I've not really used wireless charging. So you have 15w wireless pads around the house?
Super fast charge too.
With PPS and the PD standard, it changes its power according to of the actual battery level and temp (and certainly more parameters) to avoid harming it.
I plug in every night, overnight next to my bed. Not fast charging, just regular charge, because it's not needed.
If you don't need to fast charge every day, turn it off. Doing it regularly will degrade long term battery life by a small amount. Both by the method of charging, and by the heat created by fast charging, as heat is bad for the life of a battery.
But all in all, it's not terrible. Just charge it howver you want. It's not going to cause any terminal issues. Just charge it when and however you want to.
I have switched off both Superfast as well as fast charging. Not sure if that will have any impact positive or negative as my opinion is that Samsung didnt go with 40W, 60W so on and so forth charging not because it cant do it (If Oppo,Vivo, Xiaomi can then Samsung definitely can) but as a bigger company they probably wanted to act more responsibly so they must have ensured that their 25W charging has negligible effect on battery and thats why they went with it. Just my 2 cents.