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Is there a way to turn off the fast charging?
Just use a charger that doesn't provide quick charge.
XblackdemonX said:
Just use a charger that doesn't provide quick charge.
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ok, so if I use a htc one m7 charger, does it works?
Why would you want to turn off the feature?
ipmanwck said:
Why would you want to turn off the feature?
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To have more charge and discharge cycles, so as to have a battery that lasts for a longer time, in terms of age of the battery.
It would be nice an option to disable it, like in the SGS7. Especially for the people like me that charge the phone at night and doesn't need quick charge.
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kutavyz said:
It would be nice an option to disable it, like in the SGS7. Especially for the people like me that charge the phone at night and doesn't need quick charge.
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Why not just use a charger without quickcharge, e. g. 2A output or even 1A if you prefer? Very simple solution!
icaros1530 said:
Why not just use a charger without quickcharge, e. g. 2A output or even 1A if you prefer? Very simple solution!
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This is what I'm doing now. I'm using my girlfriend charger, but my car charger is QC, and I don't always want to use it and I'm not want to have two chargers in the car...
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kutavyz said:
This is what I'm doing now. I'm using my girlfriend charger, but my car charger is QC, and I don't always want to use it and I'm not want to have two chargers in the car...
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Okay, that makes sense! We better get an option to turn it off then.
I noticed the Axon charging current drops off somewhere above 90-95% capacity. Using the app Ampere and with the Axon's included QC3.0 charger, the phone will charge at a current of ~3A when the battery is below ~80-90%, and then when the charge capacity is above that, the charge current drops to around 0.3A for a slower charge up to full capacity. The charge current may even drop lower but I haven't observed Ampere like a hawk when charging.
I'm curious what's causing that smart charge current drop: the phone or the in box QC3.0 charger. If it's the phone, then using an older charger with a max output of 2-2.5A may be ideal for battery longevity. If the Axon battery is truly 3250mAh, then with a preferred C-rate of say 0.7C (I've seen recommended C-rates from 0.5C to 0.8C), we get 2275mA as the ideal constant charge current. If the phone also drops the charge current of this older charger when capacity is nearing full then it would certainly be better than using the QC3.0 charger.
However, if all of this fluctuating charge current is controlled by the QC3.0 charger itself, then it might be the better charger option versus one with a lower rated current output. The OP on this thread should test both out with Ampere and share the results.
Some good reading:
What is C-rate?
How to prolong li-ion batteries
Bucatino said:
To have more charge and discharge cycles, so as to have a battery that lasts for a longer time, in terms of age of the battery.
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Quick charge rates are designed around the capability of the battery. I have extensive experience with system design around rechargeable cells of all major chemistries, and the large batteries currently used in phones can be charged at much higher rates simply because there is more surface area (more mAh) that in older phones. Quick Charge will never charge at a rate unsafe for your battery. Your battery is more likely to fail from simply age or damage due to a drop as opposed to quick charging.
The bigger the battery, the higher the acceptable charging current. At over 3000 mAh, the Axon 7 battery can safely be charged at a very high current.
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the large batteries currently used in phones can be charged at much higher rates simply because there is more surface area (more mAh) that in older phones. Quick Charge will never charge at a rate unsafe for your battery. Your battery is more likely to fail from simply age or damage due to a drop as opposed to quick charging.
The bigger the battery, the higher the acceptable charging current. At over 3000 mAh, the Axon 7 battery can safely be charged at a very high current.
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Absolutely correct, like my previous post, but not an answer to the question asked. I agree that since the capacity is high at 3250mAh, a constant C-rate of 1.0C (up to 3250mA charge current) is safe. However the question is not about safety, but longevity of performance.
Lowering the charging C-rate to 0.5-0.8C could potentially mean the difference of good battery capacity performance for 1 year versus 1.5-2 years.
With Ampere I've observed the charge current on the Axon with QC3.0 charger as high as 3200mAh. At 1C, that's perfectly safe, but less than ideal for battery longevity. We're simply looking for an alternative at a lower C-rate of 0.5-0.8C.
jlomein said:
Absolutely correct, like my previous post, but not an answer to the question asked. I agree that since the capacity is high at 3250mAh, a constant C-rate of 1.0C (up to 3250mA charge current) is safe. However the question is not about safety, but longevity of performance.
Lowering the charging C-rate to 0.5-0.8C could potentially mean the difference of good battery capacity performance for 1 year versus 1.5-2 years.
With Ampere I've observed the charge current on the Axon with QC3.0 charger as high as 3200mAh. At 1C, that's perfectly safe, but less than ideal for battery longevity. We're simply looking for an alternative at a lower C-rate of 0.5-0.8C.
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So, is better a 5V- 1A than the original QC of axon?
I charge it in the night when i sleep, and I don't need a quick charge during the day.
Bucatino said:
So, is better a 5V- 1A than the original QC of axon?
I charge it in the night when i sleep, and I don't need a quick charge during the day.
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Explained In short and ELI5.
If you charge ~300( charge cycles) times with the QC3 you will lose ~10% battery capacity.
10% off 3250mah is 325mah.
So roughly (depending on usage) after a year you will lose 325mah from your battery.
If you charge slow it is prolonged.
celoxocis said:
Explained In short and ELI5.
If you charge ~300( charge cycles) times with the QC3 you will lose ~10% battery capacity.
10% off 3250mah is 325mah.
So roughly (depending on usage) after a year you will lose 325mah from your battery.
If you charge slow it is prolonged.
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ok, I want to use this phone for 2/3 years =)
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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2 Hour With Stock Charger
I didn't completely check the ratings and time but stock charger DOES NOT fast charge this phone. as the Stock Charger isnt QC2.0 Supported. However this mobile does support QC2.0 but you'll have to test QC2.0 Charger 1st. Not all QC2.0 Chargers work on this mobile. Its a little picky. So go to a shop check QC2.0 Chargers on your mobile. when you get circle Sign on notification bar along side battery then it means that device is fast charging. if not then there will be no circle around the charging sign (Flash sign)
also idt this mobile supports QC3.0 but i dont have tools to check amps volts of charger.
Lenovo's original QC3.0 charger doesnt work on this phone. I've tested. but Motorola's QC3.0 Charger works fine.
my rn5 pro , takes apporx 3 hours to charge completely!
So far I'm a bit slow, a little bit more than 3 hours to completely charge the phone. Might have something to do with the cable.
My current charging setup:
- ANKER 5 port 40W
- a docomo USB cable
Planning to buy a proper 20AWG usb cable and a QC2.0 adapter.
I just bought a Letv charger which supported qc3.0 for about 4$ on taobao
I'm currently on the 9.5.11 build and it takes about 4-5 hours to completely charge the device using stock charger, And it took about 2-3 hours while on 9.2 build.
I wonder if the Mi QC 3.0 based charger would improve the situation for us?
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I'm currently on the 9.5.11 build and it takes about 4-5 hours to completely charge the device using stock charger, And it took about 2-3 hours while on 9.2 build.
I wonder if the Mi QC 3.0 based charger would improve the situation for us?
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Slow charge is a known bug in 9.5.11 build. Wait for an update or change ROM
13,2W for me
I recieved 9.2.13 update yesterday and have been noticing significant boost to charging speeds since then...yet to fully charge from 0 so can't comment on total time but as per Ampere, charging speeds are in range of 1500 to 1700 mah
1000 mA max with 5v 2amp and Work Normal Speed with Stock Charger
Approximately 2 hour for charge phone
I use the app Ampere (free in Playstore) to measure power input and with a normal charger (non QC) it shows up to 1600 mAh charging amount and from almost 0 to 100% it is taking 2,5 hours. One question: is there a way to tell if QuickCharge is active?
@Kusie
Look on your"s phone status bar. With normal charging there is thunder icon next to the battery. With QC active, thunder in in circle as far as I remember. Info about active QC should be also displayed in the bottom of your lockscreen
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Using my usb inline meter, i'm getting ~6.5v and ~2.2A, with a Tronsmart usb cable and QC 3.0 Truro charger, screen off and about 44% remaining on battery. Will try when the battery is lower some other time.
takes around 2hours to charge 100% using stock charger..
1h 30min with a Quick Charger from Anker.
Cel00 said:
1h 30min with a Quick Charger from Anker.
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Not possible.
Incogn said:
Not possible.
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Of Course it's true, why should I lie?
Turned off the Phone at 5% and charged it to 100%....
Cel00 said:
Of Course it's true, why should I lie?
Turned off the Phone at 5% and charged it to 100%....
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I have no idea why would you do that... But read reviews, no matter what kind of charger you use, this phone only supports qc 2.0 version. From 0 to 100, in 1 hour, you only get like 55%, and in the end it slows down even more, so yes, impossible to fully charge in 1.5h, TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. You are either lying, or mixed times and got confused. Judging by technical parameters, the best this phone can do should be around 2hours from 0 to 100.
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I have no idea why would you do that... But read reviews, no matter what kind of charger you use, this phone only supports qc 2.0 version. From 0 to 100, in 1 hour, you only get like 55%, and in the end it slows down even more, so yes, impossible to fully charge in 1.5h, TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. You are either lying, or mixed times and got confused. Judging by technical parameters, the best this phone can do should be around 2hours from 0 to 100.
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I just posted above that I was able to get QC 3.0 charging rates. Approximately 2.2A (fluctuates +/- 0.1A) and 6.6v (fluctuates +/- 0.2v) using a QC 3.0 charger and Tronsmart cable. Measured using an inline meter, not software.
So the issue is I bought quick charge 3.0 adapter from xiaomi site but it isn't making much difference because stock thermal values are too limiting
It charges 2800 ma while temp is >37 c
2300-2400 at > 39c
After that at 1900
Is there any way to start throttling from 44-45 c
im shocked 2800mA charginig speed in RN7 as it is capable of 18W fast charging only
but well from my experience with different phones is that as the phone going to full charge especially after 85 % i experienced mobile heatup and the charging current drops, but i think your issue may arise during low charge mode as well
first of all charge your screen while keeping display off and after every 15 minutes you can check for the average charging current and temperature for that session via Accubattery easily
by the way which app are you using for charging current
app is not accurate for checking, use USB voltmeter direct to charger to check charging amps,
in a hot country with high temperatures >30C.....then quick charge will throttle faster as battery heats.
mi 2a charger (redmi note 7pro)
even regular 2a charger (with redmi n7pro) thermal throttle.
i put my phone in charging for an hour ago and i checked suddenly and it has charged only 20% (21% to 42%) and after changing charger the charging speed was back on and also the mi charger was hot would be aroung 30 to 35 celcius.
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Charging Speed is Amazing
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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with 27W Charger the phone charges from 0 to 55 percent in about 30 mins and 0-100 percent in about 1Hr 15-20mins.
charging speed depend on battery temperature. fastest charging if temp below 35 degree C, around 3500-3700 mA
The charging speed is damn fast.
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Hello sir, are you using a flashed global rom?
Guys what about 27 watt sonic charger? Is it worth to buy?
charging rate is very slow when i use the phone while charging....its around 1200mah
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with 27W Charger the phone charges from 0 to 55 percent in about 30 mins and 0-100 percent in about 1Hr 15-20mins.
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Are you serious? My 18watt Charger that comes with the box takes 30mins to reach 50% and takes 1hr 25mins for full charge. Then why 27watt??
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Are you serious? My 18watt Charger that comes with the box takes 30mins to reach 50% and takes 1hr 25mins for full charge. Then why 27watt??
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in my stock charger it charges 44% in 30mins and 1hr 30mins to full charge. Difference is only about 20% while it should be 50% more faster as 27W is 50% more power of 18W.
pritish sahoo said:
in my stock charger it charges 44% in 30mins and 1hr 30mins to full charge. Difference is only about 20% while it should be 50% more faster as 27W is 50% more power of 18W.
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You are correct. Difference is just around 20% which is not acceptable.
i've decided not to waste money to buy the 27w charger after watching this..
I have two power delivery charger both capable to charge up to 60w. When I connect phone to both charges doesn't matter which one and which cable I use currently it always display fast charging text and icon. Why it doesn't go on turbo charging? If I know the phone support qc 4.0 and PD and it should turbo charge on my chargers, right? Anyway I noticed 3300-3600 mAh however it doesn't really look charge as fast as in reviews.
Some people reported 4A but according to qc 4.0 specification it's rather about 3A at 9A. What's the real charging voltage for our Xeromi?
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I have two power delivery charger both capable to charge up to 60w. When I connect phone to both charges doesn't matter which one and which cable I use currently it always display fast charging text and icon. Why it doesn't go on turbo charging? If I know the phone support qc 4.0 and PD and it should turbo charge on my chargers, right? Anyway I noticed 3300-3600 mAh however it doesn't really look charge as fast as in reviews.
Some people reported 4A but according to qc 4.0 specification it's rather about 3A at 9A. What's the real charging voltage for our Xeromi?
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It seems Xiaomi uses a proprietary protocol for it's 27W Turbo charge. For now I've not seen any other charger capable of charging it on 27W other than the Xiaomi one.
Chinese people are used to lying. Phone doesn't support qc 4.0 and doesn't weight 190 g. It weight over 200 g (200.5g)
The phone charges at 300-500ma when using pubg even when using a 18w qc3 charger which normally charges at 2800ma. Anyone else facing this bug?
nakulp said:
The phone charges at 300-500ma when using pubg even when using a 18w qc3 charger which normally charges at 2800ma. Anyone else facing this bug?
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Nope i didn't seen it but mine working great i have usb tester so i can check everything about charging i didn't seen charging at 0.5A
Your saying it charges at 2800ma but this is working actually at charges at 9V & 2A so 18W charging but those ampere & accu battery are showing differently. First i thought they are genuine after i bought USB tester I learned a lesson they are wrong
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It seems Xiaomi uses a proprietary protocol for it's 27W Turbo charge. For now I've not seen any other charger capable of charging it on 27W other than the Xiaomi one.
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I tried a Belkin 27W QC 4.0 charger(attached), Macbook Air 30W original Charger and one more 45W Type-C charger.
But non of them shows Turbo Charging. Not even the Quick Charging message comes up when using the original 18W charger.
Saw this charger on AliExpress with a seller who had feedback saying it gives Turbo charging.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33026265054.html
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I tried a Belkin 27W QC 4.0 charger(attached), Macbook Air 30W original Charger and one more 45W Type-C charger.
But non of them shows Turbo Charging. Not even the Quick Charging message comes up when using the original 18W charger.
Saw this charger on AliExpress with a seller who had feedback saying it gives Turbo charging.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33026265054.html
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Try changing the USB cable.
naga ravi 259 said:
Nope i didn't seen it but mine working great i have usb tester so i can check everything about charging i didn't seen charging at 0.5A
Your saying it charges at 2800ma but this is working actually at charges at 9V & 2A so 18W charging but those ampere & accu battery are showing differently. First i thought they are genuine after i bought USB tester I learned a lesson they are wrong
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Do you have pubg installed & would it be possible for you to check charging current while game is running in foreground please?
Also btw my charger also has a 5v&3A mode so that's why it was showing ~2.8A
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The phone charges at 300-500ma when using pubg even when using a 18w qc3 charger which normally charges at 2800ma. Anyone else facing this bug?
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It's not a bug i guess... Its a OS thing .. some custom rom uses the force fast charge option... Then the phone will charge fast even we use the phone or play games.. but in stock roms they disabled the force fast charge thing... So when in idle, phone charges around 3000mah but when using the phone it comes down to around 1000mah or even lower while playing games
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QC 3 is great, I dont use the wireless charging.
I'm honestly pretty disappointed with the quick charging speed. I had the Essential phone before this and loved the 27w fast charging with USB PD. The G8X charges really slow in comparison. I've tried QC 3.0 adapters and USB PD adapters and just can't find something that I would call "quick" by today's standards.
im using a xiaomi remi note 8 pro charger to quick charge, the one in the box doesn't give me "Fast charge" icon
using the stock usb-c charger, I get pretty good fast charge. wireless is a bit slower but I use it to avoid fast charge anyway to preserve the battery health.
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I'm honestly pretty disappointed with the quick charging speed. I had the Essential phone before this and loved the 27w fast charging with USB PD. The G8X charges really slow in comparison. I've tried QC 3.0 adapters and USB PD adapters and just can't find something that I would call "quick" by today's standards.
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I agree. It is unstable charging. In my cause power ( A) is jumping, also QC3/unknow is swapping very ofter. Just connect USB meter. Strange. There is an option for save charge, but On/Off causes no difference to me.
ive tried 5 different chargers but this phone does not charge more than 10w on any chargers QC 2.0, 3.0 AND 4.0+ usb AtoC CtoC tested on usb tester. it will spike to 13w maximum then go stable 10w all the way. Can anybody test on their phone to confirm this? ive tried these chargers on xiaomi and realme phone they would charge upto 17w
Lg g8x charging speed
Tried every charger starting from 15W and up to 40W. QC 3.0 to 4+, Dash charge, Warp charge, Super charge, Adaptive Fast charge. 0 to 100% takes 2 hr 12 min.
LG g8x refuses to charge faster with any of them. When world moves to faster charging protocols incl. long hesitant apple for iPhone, LG does the opposite. LG and Qualcomm mentions that QC 4.0 supported in their official websites which should support 27 W, but with any charger phone accepts max. of 13 W in my testing.
I have been using LG phones for long only because of quad DAC. For people like me who wants to support LG, this slow charging is a real issue.
I understand that V60 comes with 25W qc 4.0 inbox charger which charges 0 to 100% in around 1 hr 45 min for 5000 mAh battery as per YouTube reviews.
Now the only question left for me is that can 25W V60 charger be used to charge g8x battery of 4000 mAh in 1 hr 30 min. Has anyone tried charging g8x with V60 charger? If so, can some post changing time.
I would really like someone to use Mi Pocket Powerbank Pro available in India a 22.5 W Quickcharge (don't know which Qualcomm level, guessing QC3) powerbank specifically using a super high quality cable either the Blauplunkt Flat USB 2 to type C or the Ikea Type C to Type C cable using the type C Power Delivery (PD) output port of this powerbank which I believe would be the topmost setup ever for charging this device. Is the Max fastcharge rating 18w of this device?? As such I did not even mention Redmi 30w powerbank. Which is the QC4 power adaptor or powerbank which can be bought in India?
If rooted you can get fast charging via a magisk module. It charges fast even with screen on... Which is what annoys me about the phones that restrict it to approx 1000. They still limit temperature to 46C
Turbo is 2750mah, super turbo is 3000mah
Normal is 2450mah and 45C limit.
Also recommend the intelligent power control magisk module, better than acc. I'm using 90 max 86 back on. Works great!
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If rooted you can get fast charging via a magisk module. It charges fast even with screen on... Which is what annoys me about the phones that restrict it to approx 1000. They still limit temperature to 46C
Turbo is 2750mah, super turbo is 3000mah
Normal is 2450mah and 45C limit.
Also recommend the intelligent power control magisk module, better than acc. I'm using 90 max 86 back on. Works great!
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Tried superturbo and got ~3000 ma but in full run from 0 to 100 it just makes 10 to 12 min difference
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Tried superturbo and got ~3000 ma but in full run from 0 to 100 it just makes 10 to 12 min difference
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It helps where keeping the screen on, the charging speed is not reduced. Before this, keeping the screen on would reduce the charge rate a lot.
Now I'm on s21 and they severely limit charge rate once the battery reaches 37C.