Help me to setup TV and receiver power managment - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When I try to setup TV and receiver power managment Shield allows me to choose only one.
It is ok if you deaf or blind but I'm not and I'd like to power on and off TV and receiver simultaniously with shield.
Are there any life hack for it?
Is there a voice command to send Shield to Sleep mode?

Const_RU said:
When I try to setup TV and receiver power managment Shield allows me to choose only one.
It is ok if you deaf or blind but I'm not and I'd like to power on and off TV and receiver simultaniously with shield.
Are there any life hack for it?
Is there a voice command to send Shield to Sleep mode?
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Wasn't this what they created CEC for? Assuming of course your TV was either new, or spec'ed up enough to have CEC where you could send the Power on signal to or from the attached Device. That also supports CEC Power On / Off.
At the moment I'm not aware of any Device specific voice commands. But, perhaps now would be the time to use that part of the Shield Settings to request such features. As this is something that would seem (to me...), to be reasonable. Once the nVIDIA Spot lands, and Google Home gets switched on. But this hasn't been released yet, and it may well be a long while before it actually lands.

Ichijoe said:
Wasn't this what they created CEC for? Assuming of course your TV was either new, or spec'ed up enough to have CEC where you could send the Power on signal to or from the attached Device. That also supports CEC Power On / Off.
Receiver is old and without HDMI.
I have found that the only way I can manage power for all 3 is to turn CEC support off on Shield and setup two different IR commands for TV and receiver.
This far not perfect. TV starts first then it looks for Shield than Shield shows errors that never happen with CEC but it works.
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Const_RU said:
Ichijoe said:
Wasn't this what they created CEC for? Assuming of course your TV was either new, or spec'ed up enough to have CEC where you could send the Power on signal to or from the attached Device. That also supports CEC Power On / Off.
Receiver is old and without HDMI.
I have found that the only way I can manage power for all 3 is to turn CEC support off on Shield and setup two different IR commands for TV and receiver.
This far not perfect. TV starts first then it looks for Shield than Shield shows errors that never happen with CEC but it works.
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In that case... You should probably invest the $60-ish or so Dollars on FleeBay for either a Logitech Harmony One, or barring that the Harmony 900, and set that up as your daily driver.
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Const_RU said:
Ichijoe said:
Wasn't this what they created CEC for? Assuming of course your TV was either new, or spec'ed up enough to have CEC where you could send the Power on signal to or from the attached Device. That also supports CEC Power On / Off.
Receiver is old and without HDMI.
I have found that the only way I can manage power for all 3 is to turn CEC support off on Shield and setup two different IR commands for TV and receiver.
This far not perfect. TV starts first then it looks for Shield than Shield shows errors that never happen with CEC but it works.
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So basically what you mean is, you can only select CEC or IR, which is correct. But both are able to control tv and receiver, just not CEC and IR mixed together.
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mr-tee said:
Const_RU said:
So basically what you mean is, you can only select CEC or IR, which is correct. But both are able to control tv and receiver, just not CEC and IR mixed together.
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To be fair I haven't had much use for CEC. I find my Logitech Harmony Remote gets the job done nicely. Since everything in my chain has IR it's not a problem. In short I could set up a single Button that powers my TV, AVR, and say the Shield all in that order. And back off again with the Power Off Button.
CEC on the other hand would allow you to control your Devices from the TV, directing the input (usually IR), though the TV then out again via the HDMI Cable, to the other CEC enabled Devices in the chain. Or so I understand​ it. So it to would be a single Remote. But I wouldn't know how discriminating it would be. Assuming there are just some days you don't feel the need to use the Shield.
Of course for me thia also means that if the TV wants to do a Channel / Firmware search at 03.00h, and in doing so wakes up the Shield, Wich in turn wakes up the TV. Which in turn makes me upset as I only live in a One Room Apartment. So IMHO: TO HELL WITH CEC Auto Power!
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Universal Remote?

Looking for a remote I can use with my TV (not connected to the internet ) to control smile functions such as channel and volume up and down power and input. Is it possible to download one from the play store or side load one if there is none? I need it to work on a Samsung plasma tv.
I appreciate your help!
I don't believe the Nexus 7 has the required IR Transmitter to accomplish this. If, however, your TV supports Bluetooth, then it very well may be possible if your TV company has released an app to do this.

Universal Remote for Ouya?

This is not possible, correct? There is no IR "receiver" on the unit IIRC.
This will determine whether I put the Ouya in the main TV room where it's used by my wife and parents when they're over babysitting. Right now, I have the Apple TV2 and it's programmed in my Harmony so it's easy for them to use.
So, just to be sure, this can't be programmed with a universal remote?
There's no IR receiver, so the only think that comes to mind is a USB IR receiver, even then dunno what the remote would be able to actually control.
has anyone gotten cec to work with the ouya. there was a discussion on the ouya devs forum about it. cant post the link apparently
I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
xMCNUGGETx said:
I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I have a Logitech Harmony One and have the IR to Bluetooth adapter Logitech made for communication with the PS3.
I don't have my OUYA yet, but when I do get one, it will be the first thing that I attempt to use. It only simulates PS3 controller inputs, and from what I understand, PS3 controllers work with the OUYA? Obviously would have no clue how to pair the adapter with the OUYA, but will be fun to tinker nevertheless.
Regardless, for XBMC purposes, imo nothing beats Yatse on my Nexus 4. Sure it would be nice to have all-in-one with the Harmony, but Yatse is just too nice, esp with the plugins (SMS popups on the TV and auto-pause/resume for phone calls). So not end of the world, but still would be nice to see if I could with the Harmony. At very least I'd expect someone to come out with drivers and a usb dongle.
xMCNUGGETx said:
I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
coachclass said:
Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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I have something similar myself. USB IR receiver with a remote that has a "touch disc" on it.
The device actually shows up on Windows as a Universal HID device that works as both a mouse & keyboard.
The media keys and stuff are mapped really oddly, but if you're gonna use it to drive XBMC, you can keymap all that crap without issue.
Then you'll have to make sure you put the receiver where you can get Line Of Sight.
Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
coachclass said:
Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
DivinityCycle said:
Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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xMCNUGGETx said:
wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
coachclass said:
How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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I do and as far as xbmc navigation goes all the major functions work except for the pause and play button and volume but thats not a big deal since its programed to my tv. Navigating through the ouya menu isnt as good since the enter button doesnt work. Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again. One last thing is you'll need this app to pair it since ouya cant do it out of the box https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5qcG4uZnJvbnRpYS53YWthLkJsdWV0b290aCJd
tennisbgc said:
Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again.
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
coachclass said:
Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
tennisbgc said:
yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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Thanks for the heads up. That's the kind of operational thing that makes a huge difference in how a device can be used, but you'd never know it from reading the spec sheet.
My plan for the Ouya was to use the PS3 remote, but the disconnect issue might be a big deal. I have a bluetooth mouse (microsoft brand) that I know goes to sleep when not in use, but it wakes up fast and connects fast. The sleep function is really not an issue for that bluetooth mouse.

My Nvidia Shield TV has a poltergeist inside it

Last night, it was dark and we were watching TV with the Nvidia Shield TV. I reached over to grab the Panasonic TV remote to turn up the volume. While fumbling to grab the remote in the dark, the Nvidia Shield TV started acting all weird like a poltergeist was navigating it!
At first, we thought that our Nvidia Shield TV was haunted! But, it turns out that we can use the 4-Way Directional Pad on our Panasonic TV remote to navigate the Nvidia Shield TV...who knew?!
Not sure how this works because our Nvidia Shield TV is hidden behind an entertainment center, so I doubt the Shield TV can read the IR signals coming from the remote. Plus, I don't think it even has an IR sensor.
It's called HDMI CEC control.
It passes the commands through the HDMI cable to the shield.
There is an option to enable / disable it on the shield in the HDMI settings.
The nice thing about it being enabled is that turning on the shield can automatically turn on the TV and switch to the correct input AND turning off the TV can automatically turn off the shield.
the.teejster said:
It's called HDMI CEC control.
It passes the commands through the HDMI cable to the shield.
There is an option to enable / disable it on the shield in the HDMI settings.
The nice thing about it being enabled is that turning on the shield can automatically turn on the TV and switch to the correct input AND turning off the TV can automatically turn off the shield.
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Very cool!
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Plus, I think the shield has IR.
Gasaraki- said:
Plus, I think the shield has IR.
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The remote control for the shield and controller works by Bluetooth.
Gasaraki- said:
Plus, I think the shield has IR.
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Yes its has. i am using Logitech remote control.
Remote
I have used my Panasonic smart tv remote, I also have a Panasonic smart pad controller which also works, swipe left, right, up, down. tap for OK and backup arrow also works also works.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-P...857293?hash=item3d160b7f4d:g:-lMAAOSwUdlWg55j
the.teejster said:
It's called HDMI CEC control.
It passes the commands through the HDMI cable to the shield.
There is an option to enable / disable it on the shield in the HDMI settings.
The nice thing about it being enabled is that turning on the shield can automatically turn on the TV and switch to the correct input AND turning off the TV can automatically turn off the shield.
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I think my CEC only goes one way:
Panasonic TH58PE75U> Shield TV
And not:
Shield TV > Panasonic TH58PE75U
My TV is probably really old that's why

Help with Nvidia Shield TV Pro 2017 IR blaster

I have the Shield TV Pro 2017 model for a week now and aside from being a great product, I'm trying to put my TV and my Marantz amp on sleep mode when I put my Shield TV on sleep mode (and also wake them when I woke up my box). After many tries, I think that the IR commands doesn't come from the box's IR blaster but from the controller (not the remote) itself ! So that if the controller is not in front of the devices, the commands aren't captured by them.
Am I right ? Do I miss something here, like an option to switch from controller's IR blaster to box's ? Thanks in advance for your help and maybe tips & tricks around that useful feature
I was under the impression the box only had a receiver.
I have the 16gb version 2017 and the remote that ships has an IR blaster built in. Which is basically just for switching off tv and receiver.
The new controller also has IR blaster. But the shield TV doesn't have a receiver. It also can't shutdown, just sleep or restart. (technically you can through settings, but you can only turn it back on by reconnecting the power cord.
Maybe the IR (receiver?) is only on the pro version to turn it back on when shutdown? And that it doesn't transmit? Else you should try facing the shield tv toward the receiver to test if it transmits. But to be honest it wouldn't really make sense, it isn't in direct line of sight probably most of the times.
That AVR of yours does it support HDMI? If so, and seeing how it's an AVR wouldn't also not support CEC (Power I/O)? Alas you have to dig into the Settings of everything in the Link Shield TV, AVR, TV etc..) and, make sure CEC is turned on.
Otherwise I would humbly suggest scouring Fleebay for a used Harmony 900 with Bluetooth Hub, which when compared to what it was when it came out like 10 years ago is almost being given away now. As you can set that remote to either turn on a chain of Devices, or off again with just the One Button. In case you don't have full CEC throughout.

Samsung TV remote with Fire Stick

My Samsung TV remote (model RMCSPK1AP1) used to be able to control the Fire Stick. A couple weeks ago this functionality stopped and I am no longer able to control the Fire Stick with the Samsung remote. How can I pair these two back up?
shobuddy said:
My Samsung TV remote (model RMCSPK1AP1) used to be able to control the Fire Stick. A couple weeks ago this functionality stopped and I am no longer able to control the Fire Stick with the Samsung remote. How can I pair these two back up?
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The remote description says it's IR, so it must have been controlling the FireStick via CEC. Go into you Samsung TV settings & the FireStick settings, and make sure CEC control is enabled on both.
Finnzz, thanks for the reply. I have CEC turn on on both the TV and the Firestick.
If you already have full CEC input enabled then my only other advice is generic troubleshooting.
Power off the TV and Stick completely, including unplugging them for at least 10sec. Move the Stick to a different HDMI input.
Maybe there is a problem with the I2C bus handling the CEC communication. Following the steps above cover a couple possibilities.
If that doesn't help, you might want to give more information about your setup so others have a better chance of helping.
What is the FireTV Stick model and firmware version? What is the Samsung TV model?

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