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Several Questions after MOTO X FORCE received

I've brought a new MOTO X FRORE from UK (carphone warehouse). Looks great! Will appreciate if anyone can answer me:
1. What's the material of the surface ? Looks like plastic but not glass.
2. Is it possible to disable "google search" as it's the default APP which could not be stopped manually ? Here in my country google service was blocked so nothing it can do but consume the power.
3. When/How can we root MXF ?
4. My MXF's rear is ballistic nylon.. Little hairs, paper was easily attahced to the rear. Anyone has the same experience ? And how to prevent this ?
5. How many people has MXF instead of turbo 2 ?
Tks guys !

1. plastic probably
3. no one knows, we must wait

It's shatterproof kind of plastic screen protector. Bad is that many users and reviewers reported as it easy to scratch. Workaround is to put glass protector on the top of shatterproof protector

franknkg said:
I've brought a new MOTO X FRORE from UK (carphone warehouse). Looks great! Will appreciate if anyone can answer me:
1. What's the material of the surface ? Looks like plastic but not glass.
2. Is it possible to disable "google search" as it's the default APP which could not be stopped manually ? Here in my country google service was blocked so nothing it can do but consume the power.
3. When/How can we root MXF ?
4. My MXF's rear is ballistic nylon.. Little hairs, paper was easily attahced to the rear. Anyone has the same experience ? And how to prevent this ?
5. How many people has MXF instead of turbo 2 ?
Tks guys !
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Congrats on the Force.
#1 Had my dt2 coming on 2 weeks, no screen protector and no scratches. I have been cognizant of keep my phone alone in my pocket.
#2. You can disable the google app by going to settings > apps > google app > disable

Zeljko1234 said:
It's shatterproof kind of plastic screen protector. Bad is that many users and reviewers reported as it easy to scratch. Workaround is to put glass protector on the top of shatterproof protector
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I've found mine durable enough so far. I wouldn't put it in a pocket with keys or a coin (although I wouldn't do that with gorilla glass either) but it's lasted my days so far. Face down on a table, or using it outside in a dusty area like a construction zone. No scratches so far. Doesn't seem to be a delicate as made out to be at least.

Moto should (if not already) offer top layer replacement. Probably will be more expensive than laternative from Amazon or ebay.

Zeljko1234 said:
Moto should (if not already) offer top layer replacement. Probably will be more expensive than laternative from Amazon or ebay.
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Yeah they have it on their site here. 30 bucks though. But it is an exact fit, whereas I don't think Amazon would have something that fits like this would. Wonder if this one includes the Verizon logo or if this is an X Force/Turbo 2 universal piece that doesn't have the logo.

Xelios029 said:
Yeah they have it on their site here. 30 bucks though. But it is an exact fit, whereas I don't think Amazon would have something that fits like this would. Wonder if this one includes the Verizon logo or if this is an X Force/Turbo 2 universal piece that doesn't have the logo.
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They even made video how to replace it, cool. I didn't see an logo on the video but do you really wish to have Turbo 2 without Verizon logo?

Zeljko1234 said:
They even made video how to replace it, cool. I didn't see an logo on the video but do you really wish to have Turbo 2 without Verizon logo?
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It doesn't really bother me to be honest. I don't mind the logo, even though I thought it looked atrocious when it was first revealed. In fact I forgot it was even there. I meant it more for the other people who couldn't stand it.

Honestly I would like to see soft buttons instead logo or smaller bezels.

I have same phone... I like screen so far it doesn't seem to pick up as much grease a gorilla glass..
Not sure if I'll keep it yet though but much better than bb priv

I too have the MXF got it from the same place Carphone Warehouse on the 21st, excellent phone best decision i made for a phone since i got the htc desire in 2010

Mine arrived yesterday. Built in moto. Screen scratches easier than GG but loving the unbreakability factor. Wouldn't recommend the leather. Wish I had gone for the grippy soft backs as the leather is a bit slippy on car dashboard hehe. Battery life awesome in standby but when used it drains as fast as other phones but I can get a full day of heavy use so all good. Not sure I like lack of IR blaster and also no fingerprint reader but I'll see how I adapt
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Do you have any scratches on your moto g4 plus?

I have one crack on the flash and two small scratches on the camera(not affecting quality as far as I can tell). I just bought this phone 3 days ago I don't know when or how these cracks/scratches appeared. The front screen and fingerprint button are in mint condition.
I wanna know if you guys have noticed similar or the same issues.

Yep u r right, camera and the surrounding area is prone to get scratches even if you take a lot of care, probably due to cheap quality plastic used. Mine is full of scratches too

ya sme
j0nas_ said:
I have one crack on the flash and two small scratches on the camera(not affecting quality as far as I can tell). I just bought this phone 3 days ago I don't know when or how these cracks/scratches appeared. The front screen and fingerprint button are in mint condition.
I wanna know if you guys have noticed similar or the same issues.
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I also got sme scratch on camera module dont know how.....till now its nt affecting the camera quality bt still worried for future

I got couple of scratches on rear camera... they should have used Corning Gorilla Glass

Same here the cover of the cam module is of low quality I guess.

I guess using camera skin will help......to some extent

Don't knowwhy this happened. But I want to ask that when did you order?
Am suspecting that there are some difference in quality in different batches. Mine doesn't have a single scratch, but my brothers have lots of scratches.
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j0nas_ said:
I have one crack on the flash and two small scratches on the camera(not affecting quality as far as I can tell). I just bought this phone 3 days ago I don't know when or how these cracks/scratches appeared. The front screen and fingerprint button are in mint condition.
I wanna know if you guys have noticed similar or the same issues.
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can unit is little protruded so it is prone to scratches, i would recommend using a thick back cover

iloveindia said:
can unit is little protruded so it is prone to scratches, i would recommend using a thick back cover
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No matter how much care you take it'll still get scratches, God knows what kind of material they've used, it'll get scratches even if its fully covered

thejoemaya said:
Don't knowwhy this happened. But I want to ask that when did you order?
Am suspecting that there are some difference in quality in different batches. Mine doesn't have a single scratch, but my brothers have lots of scratches.
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I got it a week ago, the scratches came with it. It was the last one in the store.

Yes, the Camera protector glass is much prone to scratches as it's the first thing to touch the surface when you land the phone. I observed these scratches on my colleague's phone. When I ordered one, I quickly got it protected by an Armor back case. Now I am not worried of fall or scratches besides it gives good grip

Anyone in the forum, who ordered on day 1?
Also, i want to ask that if anyone compared the brightness values between the 1st day order and those ordered afterwards? I observed great difference in the colour. Mine produced white but my brother's was having a little yellowish tint.
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Yes, the Camera protector glass is much prone to scratches as it's the first thing to touch the surface when you land the phone. I observed these scratches on my colleague's phone. When I ordered one, I quickly got it protected by an Armor back case. Now I am not worried of fall or scratches besides it gives good grip
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Where do you get a case like that? I don't think there are any cases in any store my country yet if ever.

No matter from which lot you got the mobile, it'll get scratches. I observed it on my first week use then I quickly ordered Camera skin from here
and now it's looking fu*ng cool and no more scratches

no problem
thejoemaya said:
Anyone in the forum, who ordered on day 1?
Also, i want to ask that if anyone compared the brightness values between the 1st day order and those ordered afterwards? I observed great difference in the colour. Mine produced white but my brother's was having a little yellowish tint.
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yeah i got it day 1, no problem on my end, produced colors are same as always

I think the Crack you mentioned on flash is a separator for two led flash being of different colors. Also it's a fine thin line which is quite straight. Cracks generally are not so straight. But yes I also have few scratches on the camera protector

No scratches at all on my Moto g4+ ordered from Amazon.

ashwin_tembhekar said:
I think the Crack you mentioned on flash is a separator for two led flash being of different colors. Also it's a fine thin line which is quite straight. Cracks generally are not so straight. But yes I also have few scratches on the camera protector
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It is NOT the seperator line, I know there is one that goes like a -. The crack is more like a / that ain't straight.

Material covering flash plastic?

Hi y'all.. Bought the lg g6 recently. So far loving it. I like how the phone is entirely scratch resistant however I just noticed that the material covering the flash is plastic. I saw a deep scratch and had no idea how it got there given that I've had the phone in a mil grade case ever since opening he package. I put my finger on the flash and the scratches got even worse. I'm considering returning the phone because of this, has anyone run into this??

Watch the video in youtube from jerryrigeverything to see from wich material is the flash supposed to be.

iori_cl said:
Watch the video in youtube from jerryrigeverything to see from wich material is the flash supposed to be.
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I watched both of his G6 videos - unfortunately he never did a scratch test of the material covering the flash

Really??
Snowleopard86 said:
... I'm considering returning the phone because of this, has anyone run into this??
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Really?? You're going to return a phone because of the material that was used to cover the LED camera flash?? What impact is a scratch on the plastic of your LED flash going to have on your photos?

I'm pretty sure the majority of phones out now use plastic for the flash. If you're considering returning it because of that then you should just get an iPhone. The plastic will refract the light regardless of whether there's scratches or not.

Saythis said:
I'm pretty sure the majority of phones out now use plastic for the flash. If you're considering returning it because of that then you should just get an iPhone. The plastic will refract the light regardless of whether there's scratches or not.
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I have a Nexus 5X which is manufactured by LG - it seems to use a harder plastic because I don't see any scratches on the material covering the flash. I noticed the iPhone uses glass? for the flash? I might look into this

Confirmed. All phones use plastic on flash except for one, S8

iori_cl said:
Confirmed. All phones use plastic on flash except for one, S8
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where did you get this data?

Google mainly and the channel i told you, in the test video for the s8 he says: " first time i ever see a glass on a flashlight", so i went straight to google and in fact its true.

iori_cl said:
Google mainly and the channel i told you, in the test video for the s8 he says: " first time i ever see a glass on a flashlight", so i went straight to google and in fact its true.
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ok this might be a game changer for me then lol - I chose LG G6 over the S8 because the G6 has a flat screen (I hate the curved screens because of the lack of screen protectors) - however I can't stand that a premium phone like the G6 opted for plastic to cover the flash, unacceptable.

Is not only LG, every other brand is exactly the same. Mi wife has a HTC 10, and that part is indeed plastic.
If a I were you, I wouldn't worry and enjoy the phone, its amazing

iori_cl said:
Is not only LG, every other brand is exactly the same. Mi wife has a HTC 10, and that part is indeed plastic.
If a I were you, I wouldn't worry and enjoy the phone, its amazing
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I already returned my G6 because of the plastic flash issue - I think it's a really cheap plastic because everytime I lightly brushed the flash with my finger there was a new scratch... pretty crazy

Snowleopard86 said:
I already returned my G6 because of the plastic flash issue - I think it's a really cheap plastic because everytime I lightly brushed the flash with my finger there was a new scratch... pretty crazy
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Did you check your new phone to make sure the mic and earpiece holes aren't gonna collect any dust? That right there is gonna KILL your smartphone experience. Also, don't forget to check the pressure sensitivity of the volume buttons.... can't have those taking too much or too little pressure to activate, right? And you're not thinking about getting the S8, are you?? My God, man, you DO know the volume control is just a single bar instead of two distinct buttons, right?? WHAT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS UP WHEN YOU MEAN TO PRESS DOWN?!? THE HORROR!!!

Hahahaha funny!

a Mr. Smith said:
Did you check your new phone to make sure the mic and earpiece holes aren't gonna collect any dust? That right there is gonna KILL your smartphone experience. Also, don't forget to check the pressure sensitivity of the volume buttons.... can't have those taking too much or too little pressure to activate, right? And you're not thinking about getting the S8, are you?? My God, man, you DO know the volume control is just a single bar instead of two distinct buttons, right?? WHAT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS UP WHEN YOU MEAN TO PRESS DOWN?!? THE HORROR!!!
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on a more serious note - A cnet review noted that the G6 got a "hairline fracture" on the front despite normal use... not sure why there are physical defects like this

Fair enough
Snowleopard86 said:
on a more serious note - A cnet review noted that the G6 got a "hairline fracture" on the front despite normal use... not sure why there are physical defects like this
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I will grant you that the phone probably picks up scratches easier than it should. I imagine LG was trying to save money by not going with Gorilla Glass 5 all the way around and sapphire crystal for the camera cover. But all these hardness ratings and scratch tests exist because ALL phones scratch and chip... some more than others. You're gonna have to pay however many thousands of dollars Apple was going to charge people for a sapphire crystal-encased phone before they scrapped that idea to get something that will really stand up to scratches and "hairline fractures."

a Mr. Smith said:
I will grant you that the phone probably picks up scratches easier than it should. I imagine LG was trying to save money by not going with Gorilla Glass 5 all the way around and sapphire crystal for the camera cover. But all these hardness ratings and scratch tests exist because ALL phones scratch and chip... some more than others. You're gonna have to pay however many thousands of dollars Apple was going to charge people for a sapphire crystal-encased phone before they scrapped that idea to get something that will really stand up to scratches and "hairline fractures."
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right, but a hairline fracture on the screen is absurd.. that will actually affect the viewing. My Nexus 5X is mostly plastic aside from the screen and for now I'm sticking with this phone..

What if the plastic breaks, does this affect water resistance? should I even worry about it?

front bezel scratching...

I recently bought a g5 plus and bought a cover for it... Its been a week nd i got many minir scratches on the front silver bezel..looks liks dirt stcks to the bezel

airafali said:
I recently bought a g5 plus and bought a cover for it... Its been a week nd i got many minir scratches on the front silver bezel..looks liks dirt stcks to the bezel
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Mine has stayed great so far, I've had it for about a month but I really baby my phones. I take it in and out of a case all the time and havn't seen any damage so far.

Even on my phone ... Those damages are not visible easily but upon tilting phone​ i see some wyt spots

I feel really worried abt it. Ant ways can u tell me how much it may cost me to replace the body in service center

So this tells us we need to keep Moto g5 plus in case, always.
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pooniaprashant said:
So this tells us we need to keep Moto g5 plus in case, always.
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Mine was in a case since day one

pooniaprashant said:
So this tells us we need to keep Moto g5 plus in case, always.
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I think i did it. I keeo checking wether it gor scratched or not so i pull the cover and checkbifbits scratched ... Those minor scratches arent visible normally bt yes if one tries to focus on bezel and tilts itbin sunlight the become visible....

P10 Lite Opinions

Hey, my current phone is on it's death bed and I need a new one ASAP. I was planning on buying a Moto G5 Plus until I starting reading all the complaints about low max volume, feeble speaker and poor microphone.
It was recommended to me that I check out the Huawei P10 Lite as an alternative. It seems like a good phone, but I became hesitant to purchase when I found out it doesn't have Gorilla Glass or even the anti-scratch coating.. and I'm batting close to 1000 when it comes to breaking screens.
I'm just curious what owners think about this phone. Are you satisfied with the purchase? Are there any common problems that I'm not aware of?
Thanks.

My wife has Moto G5 Plus, and I have P10 Lite. Both devices are great, really. Gorilla Glass shouldn't be a problem, you can get a tempered glass screen protector and that's it.
Moto G5 Plus on the other hand has a lot of cool features, but I don't like the software. I mean you don't get gallery app pre-installed, but you have to use Google photos (or download one from the PlayStore).
I also had to choose between those two devices and Huawei was a winner for me simply because of the Emui 5.1. Also, this is my first Huawei device, my wife had P8 Lite which was brilliant handset. I still didn't own Motorola so far, but my wise is pleased with it.
I hope I helped at least a bit.

I have the p10 lite and it's very prone to scratching. Not as in deep cracks but like not-very-deep nicks. They're not that obvious when using the phone but when you clean the screen and turn it off you can really see it. I don't really know how mine got scratched, but I'm pretty sure it was from pocket sand. Overall the phone works well and if you hate the emui then just download a different theme. Get a case if you're gonna use it though.

It was recommended over on another forum that I get the P10 Lite l03t since that version has the most compatible bands with MetroPCS. I googled it and couldn't find any for sale.
I was also reading that applying a Gorilla Glass protector is a giant hassle since the screen goes all the way to the edge. Is this true or do those people just suck at it?

adam79 said:
I was also reading that applying a Gorilla Glass protector is a giant hassle since the screen goes all the way to the edge. Is this true or do those people just suck at it?
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It's true. I changed 5 or 6 glasses until I found the one that's good. I'm using PanzerGlass Full Frame now, and I'm very satisfied.

Masinac85 said:
It's true. I changed 5 or 6 glasses until I found the one that's good. I'm using PanzerGlass Full Frame now, and I'm very satisfied.
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I googled PanzerGlass and it's not recommended to use a protective case with it. Something about it slightly lifting the glass and letting dirt in. That's a pretty big trade-off.. protective glass to stop scratches/cracks or a case for shock absorption and better grip (phones are real slippery without a case).

Yes, it is full coverage. But I don't have the problem, I have Nillkin Nature TPU case that doesn't lift the protector. The problem make cases that has raised edges. They lift the screen protector.
EDIT: Here are some pictures of the screen protector and the case. You can see that there's no lifting problem. By the way, pictures are made with Moto G5 Plus.

I like my P10 Lite, I find it a really nice, easy to use phone.
I am running Nova Launcher on mine though instead of Emui, but that is personal preference.
When I first got my phone I was supplied a screen protector, which I didnt like, due to the nature of the curved screen you either have to have a protector that sits just inside the edge of the screen or that slightly protrudes over the edge, both options to me didnt sit right.
My solution was to get a full wallet case to protect the screen. I chose the Nillkin Qin, as its got a tough back and nice soft area over the screen. I would recommend that case to all my friends https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_s...onics&field-keywords=Huawei+P10+Lite+qin+case
Hope that helps you decide

It may not have Gorilla Glass but I will pretty much guarantee it has some form of special glass. After all Gorilla is just a brand and I'm guessing they wanted to save money by going with a different manufacturer. There will always be cost-cutting measures when you're buying cheap phones. This is one of them.
My biggest gripes with the phone are: no IP rating, no USB-C and no regular software updates.
It's plenty fast, it actually has fast charging and it has a micro SD slot. You get a lot of phone for the price. I personally got mine on sale so even with the shortcomings: it was worth every penny.

HytestA said:
I like my P10 Lite, I find it a really nice, easy to use phone.
I am running Nova Launcher on mine though instead of Emui, but that is personal preference.
When I first got my phone I was supplied a screen protector, which I didnt like, due to the nature of the curved screen you either have to have a protector that sits just inside the edge of the screen or that slightly protrudes over the edge, both options to me didnt sit right.
My solution was to get a full wallet case to protect the screen. I chose the Nillkin Qin, as its got a tough back and nice soft area over the screen. I would recommend that case to all my friends https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_s...onics&field-keywords=Huawei+P10+Lite+qin+case
Hope that helps you decide
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I was considering buying a flip case, so that I can remove the screen protector, but I have read of quite a few accounts of dust getting between the case and the screen, which caused scratches on the screen. Not necessarily with the P10 Lite, but with other devices. I don't want to take that chance, but if I know that the screen can withstand getting easily scratched, I will be more than happy to remove my screen protector.

Trixanity said:
....My biggest gripes with the phone are: no IP rating, no USB-C and no regular software updates.
It's plenty fast, it actually has fast charging and it has a micro SD slot. You get a lot of phone for the price. I personally got mine on sale so even with the shortcomings: it was worth every penny.
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I went for the P10 lite just because the European version of the G5 doesn't have a 'compass' (only the USA version does) and if I'm not mistaken this is 'vital' if you want to use things like 'turn-by-turn directional orientated Sat-nav'