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Hello guys, i have a ticwatch full in chinese, but is there a way to install android wear instead of tic os (custom android 5.1) or to translate this awesome OS in english?
Where did you buy your ticwatch?
Regretfully, there is NO Android Wear ROM for Ticwatches.
- But fortunately, there is an "Android-Wear-Compatible Mode" which can be turned on by the watch's phone app Ticwear Helper.
- But unfortunately, the "AWCM" is now "AWCCM" - Android-Wear-CHINA (which is a "handicapped" version of AW and is not compatible with AW apps) Compatible Mode - and that only Android Wear CHINA apps can be synced to the watch.
- But fortunately you can turn on ADB on WiFi and force install the android_wear_micro.apk to the watch.
- But unfortunately those apps you force installed will be uninstalled when the Ticwear Helper automatically syncing apps between the phone and the watch every now and then, even though you may have installed the phone-side apps.
- But and at last, fortunately you can set the language to English, by 设置(the gear icon) - 偏好设置(the star icon) - 语言设置(the 中/EN icon, a single tap is enough).
cdljl2005 said:
Regretfully, there is NO Android Wear ROM for Ticwatches.
- But fortunately, there is an "Android-Wear-Compatible Mode" which can be turned on by the watch's phone app Ticwear Helper.
- But unfortunately, the "AWCM" is now "AWCCM" - Android-Wear-CHINA (which is a "handicapped" version of AW and is not compatible with AW apps) Compatible Mode - and that only Android Wear CHINA apps can be synced to the watch.
- But fortunately you can turn on ADB on WiFi and force install the android_wear_micro.apk to the watch.
- But unfortunately those apps you force installed will be uninstalled when the Ticwear Helper automatically syncing apps between the phone and the watch every now and then, even though you may have installed the phone-side apps.
- But and at last, fortunately you can set the language to English, by 设置(the gear icon) - 偏好设置(the star icon) - 语言设置(the 中/EN icon, a single tap is enough).
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Wow, cdljl2005... reading that post is about as close to riding a roller coaster as you can get in a forum!
cdljl2005 said:
Regretfully, there is NO Android Wear ROM for Ticwatches.
- But fortunately, there is an "Android-Wear-Compatible Mode" which can be turned on by the watch's phone app Ticwear Helper.
- But unfortunately, the "AWCM" is now "AWCCM" - Android-Wear-CHINA (which is a "handicapped" version of AW and is not compatible with AW apps) Compatible Mode - and that only Android Wear CHINA apps can be synced to the watch.
- But fortunately you can turn on ADB on WiFi and force install the android_wear_micro.apk to the watch.
- But unfortunately those apps you force installed will be uninstalled when the Ticwear Helper automatically syncing apps between the phone and the watch every now and then, even though you may have installed the phone-side apps.
- But and at last, fortunately you can set the language to English, by 设置(the gear icon) - 偏好设置(the star icon) - 语言设置(the 中/EN icon, a single tap is enough).
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Great info on this for people who want this watch but only know English. What apps that you tried on AWCM worked? Any root possibility you know of? Also in your opinion is the ticwear app does it have a lot of apps we can use in English? Thanks again for the great insight on this!
primod808 said:
Great info on this for people who want this watch but only know English. What apps that you tried on AWCM worked? Any root possibility you know of? Also in your opinion is the ticwear app does it have a lot of apps we can use in English? Thanks again for the great insight on this!
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there's an official wear app store (from mobvoi and is used officially by all watch running android wear china) which you can download from website to your phone(search for mobvoi wear store), but it's app fully in chinese anyway, currently official available app for china android wear which should useful for international user:
1. wechat
2. alipay (similar to paypal but it's for china use, if you want buy from like aliexpress or taobao)
3. ink weather (similar to accuweather)
4. few watchfaces
5. 2 games
as for ticwear's own app store (which can install & doenst require to switch on the aw compatible mode):
1. watchmaker premium (old version through) - repack from android wear app
2. wear gallery (腕间图库) - sync your phone gallery to watch
3. watch light (手表灯) - torch light app for watch - repack from android wear app
4. wear codes - sync qr code to watch - repack from android wear app
5. remote camera (远程相机) - repack from android wear app
6. calculator (计算器) - repack from android wear app
7. wear calendar(手表日历) - repack from android wear app
there's more but i didnt manage to try it all
alvanyap said:
there's an official wear app store (from mobvoi and is used officially by all watch running android wear china) which you can download from website to your phone(search for mobvoi wear store), but it's app fully in chinese anyway, currently official available app for china android wear which should useful for international user:
1. wechat
2. alipay (similar to paypal but it's for china use, if you want buy from like aliexpress or taobao)
3. ink weather (similar to accuweather)
4. few watchfaces
5. 2 games
as for ticwear's own app store (which can install & doenst require to switch on the aw compatible mode):
1. watchmaker premium (old version through) - repack from android wear app
2. wear gallery (腕间图库) - sync your phone gallery to watch
3. watch light (手表灯) - torch light app for watch - repack from android wear app
4. wear codes - sync qr code to watch - repack from android wear app
5. remote camera (远程相机) - repack from android wear app
6. calculator (计算器) - repack from android wear app
7. wear calendar(手表日历) - repack from android wear app
there's more but i didnt manage to try it all
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Thanks for information! Did you try side loading international android wear to your ticwatch? What's your opinion on the watch? Do you have Google services in your area?
Thanks again.
primod808 said:
Thanks for information! Did you try side loading international android wear to your ticwatch? What's your opinion on the watch? Do you have Google services in your area?
Thanks again.
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i'm at malaysia and yes my region have google services, my opinion on watch, in comparison to zenwatch first gen (my first android wear):
hardware:
1. the transflective display is superb(ignore the low resolution problem)! can stick to minimum brightness all the time (although it will turn to black & white under direct sunlight)
2. nice design! (it's better than zenwatch & lg watch urbane in terms of design)
3. hardware spec u get what u paid, on par with current mainstream smartwatch
4. standard watchband is basically a rubbish, but it's standard 22mm watch band means you can swipe it on your demand
5. Qi wireless charging
software:
1. It's OS, ticwear is basically useless outside mainland china: it only understand chinese for voice recognition.
2. it's core function eg call for taxi, navigation & etc all only serve in china
3. it get notification like android wear do, but not exactly same, example wechat will be same like you get from android wear if you turned on android wear compatible mode, but that's not for whatsapp, in android wear the whatsapp notification, you swipe left then you can c the chat history & swipe again will allow you to reply in voice for draw emoji or simple predefine reply, as for ticwear, the you only can c the latest message and reply with voice (of course in chinese) or predefine reply, here's the different, if you get more than 1 message then you wont able to view it
4. by using adb sideload (by wifi),it's possible to sideload app to watch as mentioned by previous post, but not all them function, for example google maps cant work in this (will keep force close on watch), endomondo will run but the force close screen will keep on appear on watch which meaningless if you want view your workout status on watch, watchmaker pro will work flawless, but not watchmaster (another watchface app)
5. wrist gesture totally different from android wear, in android wear you can flick your wrist to move from 1 notification to next notification, but in ticwear it only allow you to answer call (yes it can call on watch) or activate the voice recognition screen (again only listen to chinese)
6. the screenshot is handy, just double press the watch crown button
7. build in fitness apps require registration which only accept china phone number (and the tracking map is base on baidu map, a china exclusive maps)
8. the always on mode is a rubbish feature (it will finish your watch battery in less than 5 hours), i dunno why they dont implement always on mode with backlight off like what sony smartwatch 3 does (sw3 used semi-transflective screen also), as get reply from official is saying that there's hardware limitation to implement this which i think it's BS
9. the capacitive touch stripe on side is an innovative idea (similar to samsung gear s2 rotating bezel) but when compare to gear s2's rotating bezel it's basically useless
10. app store have some apps which is actually paid app for android wear (eg watchmaker premium, pilot watch faces), but it's foc in ticwear's app store
11. almost every month have update on os, latest update get you english UI (but still the voice it only listen to chinese)
12. the pedometer quite accurate
13. the build in audio control can control stock google play music player (not function for my honor 7 which run on EMUI)
battery life:
battery life is mixed of bags, base on the hardware specification, if run on android wear theoretically it should give you a solid 1.5 days use, but that's not my case, i usually get around 14~16 hours battery life (with aw compatible mode on), it's battery life is not stable especially everytimes after a software update
so is it a good buy?well base on your requirements, i'll recommended you to get huawei watch instead if you:
1. dont know chinese at all
2. you have budget.
3. you look for round watch
you might go for it if you(and that's basically what this watch can do outside mainland china):
1. you satisfy with the limited notification push function (basically better a bit than those cheap square china smartwatch)
2. you want an elegant round watch which have dozen of watchface available online for you to change everyday
3. you not mind to side load the apps to watch (need some efforts and all apps will missing upon sync app from companion apps)
Thanks alvanyap for the great insight on your experience using the ticwatch. Have you heard or read on forums about rooting and bootloader unlocking the ticwatch? Wonder if anyone flashed pure android wear on it?? Please let me know any new news from your ticwatch trying to figure out how to buy from taoboa keep in touch!!
primod808 said:
Thanks alvanyap for the great insight on your experience using the ticwatch. Have you heard or read on forums about rooting and bootloader unlocking the ticwatch? Wonder if anyone flashed pure android wear on it?? Please let me know any new news from your ticwatch trying to figure out how to buy from taoboa keep in touch!!
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currently there's impossible to flash androidwear as it's not open source like android, i would like to flash pure android wear too if it can
for rooting and bootloader unlocking wise also same not possible as this watch is sealed and no possible physical contact to computer, there's no source code from official as well
Well..... I just had a very stupid question.
where can find the“android_wear_micro.apk”?
And also have any possible that can set the language to Traditional Chinese?
thanks.
a040900 said:
Well..... I just had a very stupid question.
where can find the“android_wear_micro.apk”?
And also have any possible that can set the language to Traditional Chinese?
thanks.
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Your best bet is to Google it.
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a040900 said:
Well..... I just had a very stupid question.
where can find the“android_wear_micro.apk”?
And also have any possible that can set the language to Traditional Chinese?
thanks.
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Unzip the apk file, look for raw folder and it's inside
Since this are from mainland China almost impossible for it to have traditional chinese
good news!! ticwatch is going international with english language version.
http://www.wareable.com/smartwatches/mobvoi-ticwatch-international-second-gen-summer-2016
"is going" lol i got 4 ticwatches from my warehouse in china, i live in Italy and i have now 3 ticwatches that i can't sell because we have only chinese inside...
ChromiumPD said:
"is going" lol i got 4 ticwatches from my warehouse in china, i live in Italy and i have now 3 ticwatches that i can't sell because we have only chinese inside...
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From version 3.3 ticwear and ticwatch is completely in english too. Now it is version 3.40.
I live in Italy and I'm using it in english.
The only problem is android app: it starts in chinese if default language is not english, so to use in english you have to switch default language to english or use some app to change laguage only for one app.
I am one of the luck one to get to try out the first international version. They have a test English ticwear companion and they have an update for the watch that takes if front Chinese to English. Just got watch today from Mobovi so not sure how it works. I'll keep you updated.
Updated and as you can see it now English.
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cyberbandit1998 said:
I am one of the luck one to get to try out the first international version. They have a test English ticwear companion and they have an update for the watch that takes if front Chinese to English. Just got watch today from Mobovi so not sure how it works. I'll keep you updated.
Updated and as you can see it now English.
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Cool were you selected as one of the beta testers for the international version?
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cyberbandit1998 said:
I am one of the luck one to get to try out the first international version. They have a test English ticwear companion and they have an update for the watch that takes if front Chinese to English. Just got watch today from Mobovi so not sure how it works. I'll keep you updated.
Updated and as you can see it now English.
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Does the international version have the android wear compatibility mode?
Axon 7 A2017GV1.0.0B8 <---this morning.
I have some pro apps that costed some money.
Now they don't work - phoned the seller and he said something that I had to update the phone to something "above ver. 5".
Ranting around the intern I found this very place. Generally said I know nothing about axon 7. Only howto use it - that is!
However after studying this place reading I found a download thread with all sorts of downloads.
...reading....reading...daring to download an A2017G update with B8 assigned - the latter i supposed to be the sign for the firmware version. Per instruction i placed it in the root and renamed it to "update.zip". Opened phone with "upper sound and on" at the same time and went to choice "update from SD". (Thought now I'm bricking my phone...huhh...).
Viola - it updated nicely - I was kind of happy - however it was just a minor update to MiFavor 4.2 ZTEA2017V1.2.0.B8 from my MiFavor 4.0 (bought that zte when it hit the market).
So - it's not enough - I must further up. There are Nougats etc.
Now can You help me point out in the ZTE 7 file to download a stable more modern version that might have that magic "5" the seller talked about or higher that I can install the same way as I did above???
Or is it a new phone with more power than this three years old ZTE?
And, hallo, I do not want to fiddle with the TWRP and ADP thingy. To much for an old man.
If You can direct me right and my apps works I'll offer You an virtual Dry Martiny!
Sorry If I'm out of date!
Very_Dummy said:
Axon 7 A2017GV1.0.0B8 <---this morning.
I have some pro apps that costed some money.
Now they don't work - phoned the seller and he said something that I had to update the phone to something "above ver. 5".
Ranting around the intern I found this very place. Generally said I know nothing about axon 7. Only howto use it - that is!
However after studying this place reading I found a download thread with all sorts of downloads.
...reading....reading...daring to download an A2017G update with B8 assigned - the latter i supposed to be the sign for the firmware version. Per instruction i placed it in the root and renamed it to "update.zip". Opened phone with "upper sound and on" at the same time and went to choice "update from SD". (Thought now I'm bricking my phone...huhh...).
Viola - it updated nicely - I was kind of happy - however it was just a minor update to MiFavor 4.2 ZTEA2017V1.2.0.B8 from my MiFavor 4.0 (bought that zte when it hit the market).
So - it's not enough - I must further up. There are Nougats etc.
Now can You help me point out in the ZTE 7 file to download a stable more modern version that might have that magic "5" the seller talked about or higher that I can install the same way as I did above???
Or is it a new phone with more power than this three years old ZTE?
And, hallo, I do not want to fiddle with the TWRP and ADP thingy. To much for an old man.
If You can direct me right and my apps works I'll offer You an virtual Dry Martiny!
Sorry If I'm out of date!
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Application are normally updated from the google play store this may be the place to look if you're interested start to figure out how android smartphone work look at YouTube stuff.......:good:
First of all, I had no idea what the seller is on about with "update 5". The adviser you spoke with may have been misinformed.
Your android version is 7.1.1 now and the MiFavor version (ZTE's variant of android) is 4.2. (these are the latest for the European version of the phone that we have)
What you have is good enough to run absolutely (well, almost absolutely) any app on the store.
The has been a problem with an update to the play store app itself that broke many paid apps.
Please try updating your google play store version following these steps:
-Open the settings menu in the Google Play Store app.
-Scroll all the way down.
-Tap on the Build Version section.
A new version should be downloaded and installed automatically within a minute or so.
Please let me know if this helped. We can explore other possibilities should this fail.
Njes....
....app is an encyclopedia ""Birdlexicon" normally a thick book for us birdwatchers.
Others have the same problem on Android - have heard one nerd solved it by his son. App originally written for iPhone and then transferred to Android. It's updated as seller said for "newer versions of Android".
OK - I'll fück my ZTE-Axon 7 and do as he said - buy a iPhone on the net. He had one to sell.
Tired of this thing now!
OK - waiting a day or so to see if here is an answer on this my very my thread if I can update that Axon 7 without men in white frocks. My Axon seven is anyhow over three years old.
However my own studying needs some answers.
1/ Every hardware now has a firmware. That firmware should fit an OP-system.
2/ What firmware do I have chances to be updated and/or to fit an updated OP-system
3/ What more new OP-system fits within does my old ZTE Axon 7
----> can I take any file-downlod there (on the file download center for zte axon Axon 7 and install it without bricking on the way or with my knowledge have to toss it)
To the bin and be happy?
It will be an Iphone that fits my apps - whatever version.
Will search ads - to old - no more works with 01-bits and curious apps and to many tips an tricks with in the heaven progs. made by people who cant describe what it does - just says it does.
Anyhow - thanks for Your answer, pal!
Love from Sweden!
rzarectha said:
-Open the settings menu in the Google Play Store app.
-Scroll all the way down.
-Tap on the Build Version section.
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Some sort of problems after updating. I cannot bin many of my apps.
"Cannot delete system apps"?????????????????????
Bin seems partly gone.
OK - tried your suggestion - however not as told - did not work. However in line drop down in app store menu there was a choice "settings" where i clicked here translated "version of Play Store" - told me I had the last version 10.6.08-all. ...then [0] [PR]...200628961.
Tried to bin it - I was stopped as it "was a part of system".
Thought I could reinstall it after removing it in order to refresh the install of the play store.
Thanks Pal!
Any answer is appreciated!
No worries if that did not work.
Let's try to refresh play store after the update. We need to clean all data and cache for the play store application.
Step 1: Head to the Settings menu. This can be done by tapping the cog icon in your notification shade.
Step 2: Find Apps in the menu, then locate the app that you want to clear the cache or data for. (In this case it will be called "Google Play Store"
Step 3: Tap on Storage and the buttons for clearing the cache and app data will become available. Tap on the first option "Clear Data"
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No worries if that did not work.
Let's try to refresh play store after the update. We need to clean all data and cache for the play store application.
Step 1: Head to the Settings menu. This can be done by tapping the cog icon in your notification shade.
Step 2: Find Apps in the menu, then locate the app that you want to clear the cache or data for. (In this case it will be called "Google Play Store"
Step 3: Tap on Storage and the buttons for clearing the cache and app data will become available. Tap on the first option "Clear Data"
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Thanks!
Did that! Then repeated what You directed me to do in the earlier post.
No progress!
Are You aware if there are other hopes?
How old is Android 7.1.1?
Ok, so far I worked on the presumption that your paid apps do not work because of the license issue from Google.
Maybe that is not the problem here.
Can you please describe the problems you have with these apps in more detail?
Please quote any error message you get from apps, or if they crash outright.
As for how old android 7.1.1 is, it was released around Dec 5, 2016
Partly solved.
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Ok, so far I worked on the presumption that your paid apps do not work because of the license issue from Google.
Maybe that is not the problem here.
Can you please describe the problems you have with these apps in more detail?
Please quote any error message you get from apps, or if they crash outright.
As for how old android 7.1.1 is, it was released around Dec 5, 2016
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Now partly solved thanks to Your method on Google Play Store.
Did the same with the "problem app" Deleted cache and memory.
Was warned sincere that I would lose data and own notes, places etc.
But what da .... if it didn't work.
Restarted the app - took some serious time on first start to show up.
(building new databas, organize and download i suppose?)
The app then started as it was just bought - that is "how I wanted things" settings etc.
Lost however two years of field notes and other things. Sad!
OK - I have some left in my brain - and I'll use a separate note book in the future. Not handy however more secure. I have the app (paid version) "MyBackup Pro" - made a full backup is in "Reware" cload" - however that might be a tough problem to sort things out there.
OK - now the app is rock an rolling.
I'll start over again. Not paying for a new phone....
Thanks pal - Your methods did it!
Hey, I am happy to hear that you resolved the issue. I am very sorry that you lost all your data though
For written notes I can suggest the free app "Google Keep". It saves your notes on your Google account and you can access them on any phone or computer where you're logged in with your Google account. I have used it for a few months and I'm happy with it.
It may be worth contacting the customer support for the application you had and ask them if they keep a backup of your notes and if they may be able to help you restore the notes. I would not have high hopes for this but you have nothing at all to lose if you ask them.
Cheers!
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It may be worth contacting the customer support for the application you had and ask them if they keep a backup of your notes and if they may be able to help you restore the notes. I would not have high hopes for this but you have nothing at all to lose if you ask them.
Cheers!
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Have already written them on that matter - and "how come"
I suppose when the app was updated saved data and cache was incompatible.
That is a big blunder from them.
Otherwise it's a splendid field app worth every penny!
And You pal - thanks for directing me and kept my mood up!
From here on - life continue!
And next phone will be a well known costly phone with da powear and well recognized - that is supported higher up in the chain.
Hate that - I want to support the "outsiders".
I'm an old Linuxer/Unixer - now however now I'm forced into that "Windows" by a dual boot strap. That IS not good for future!
Love from Sweden
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Done!
rzarectha said:
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It may be worth contacting the customer support for the application you had and ask them if they keep a backup of your notes and if they may be able to help you restore the notes. I would not have high hopes for this but you have nothing at all to lose if you ask them.
Cheers!
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Have already written them on that matter - and "how come"
I suppose when the app was updated saved data and cache was incompatible.
That is a big blunder from them.
Otherwise it's a splendid field app worth every penny!
And You pal - thanks for directing me and kept my mood up!
From here on - life continue!
Love from Sweden
/BW
Having used Reno 10X China Version (PCCM00) for almost 6 months now, I must say overall it's a great device, but with some flaws in OS design that needs to be tweaked in order to make it usable. Few days ago, I was lucky enough to buy a used Reno 10X Global Version (CPH1919, my phone is a Taiwan version CPH1919TW to be more precise, but it shares the same rom as global version CPH1919EX) at reasonable price. Since it’s not often to own both China and Global version, I would like to share my comments on PCCM00 VS CPH1919. Since the main difference is the implementation of ColorOS, I think below applies to any Oppo / Realme phone comparing their China / Global version as well.
The PCCM00 has been upgraded to Android 10 beta, but I had used Android 9 for enough time before the upgrade.
Hardware:
Both shares the exact same hardware, no notable difference in size/weight nor screen/camera quality.
Preloaded software:
PCCM00 comes with a lot of bloatware, some of which is not removable without using ADB. It has Google framework, you can easily install Google Play APK and other Google services. (Making them usable is another story, see below). There’s no Google App and thus no Google Assistant, you get Breeno which is useless for non-Mandarin speakers or users outside China.
CPH1919 comes with all Google services preloaded as system app, you can also press power button for 0.5s to activate Google Assistant. There are still some bloatware, but most of them can be uninstalled directly.
Notification icon on status bar
PCCM00 has no option for displaying notification icon on status bar until very recent A44 firmware or Android 10 (ColorOS 7) beta. CPH1919 on the other hand, has this feature from day 1.
Application / Power management
The biggest downside for PCCM00 is its application / power management. Its application management is way too aggressive that by default, no application is allowed to be running in background, except for some common Chinese apps like WeChat. As a result, no application will be showing any notification or push message, or receiving any updates. To fix this, you must select custom power management, set each app to allow running in background, plus setting each app to allow auto-start. However, you are only allowed to set a maximum of 5 Apps auto-start, setting Gmail and Google App already takes you 2 (If you don’t set this, Google Assistant will be reset every time you run, as the system expects the Google App to be always running in the background), and you need to be very careful on the 3 quotas left. Even you have set all of the above for your IM / e-mail / news APP, the system will still sometimes not sending any update all of a sudden (it’s always too late when you discovered it), and you need to restart your phone to get it working again. The ColorOS 7 Beta seems to be a little bit better with more Apps included in the auto-start white list as default (like Facebook and WhatsApp), so you have more freedom on your own choice of 5 auto-start apps.
CPH1919, on the other hand, behaves much like a regular functioning phone. I get notification from all my apps without changing any settings in power management, yet I don’t see any big difference in battery life between the two phones.
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
Thanks a lot pal, your review deserves many likes, I'm using a domestic Oppo Reno 10x and I have to say that what you said was all truth
Buy the way if you're a chinese guy than I have to be admired your english
squallho1 said:
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
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Yes...the global device is clearly a superior device. The Chinese device has many impositions due to he Chinese infrastructure and direction of authorities. That can't be changed out-of-the-box, which is probably the reason behind the PCCM00 having a different internal partition table to restrict interchanging firmwares.
moozer said:
Yes...the global device is clearly a superior device. The Chinese device has many impositions due to he Chinese infrastructure and direction of authorities. That can't be changed out-of-the-box, which is probably the reason behind the PCCM00 having a different internal partition table to restrict interchanging firmwares.
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We can not blame Oppo for not having Google Apps on China version, what really kills the phone is not allowing any background apps on default (thus no push notification for all apps). From what I've herad Oppo is not the only manufacturer doing this on their China version. I was told the reason is that unlike Google Play store which imposes very strict requirment and check for Apps listed in her store, which includes Apps' power consumption when running in background, China phones rely on 3rd party App store, and there are many junk local apps that eat a lot of battery life in background. In order to maintain reasonable battery life, manufacturers make such decision while only allowing a small number of well known local apps to be running in background.
I think a better alternative is to at least allow the user to choose the power managment behaviour, not only allowing 5 auto-run Apps. There are work-arounds (like disabling Athena process), but it just takes so much effort to make the phone usable.
Unlike Xiaomi, Oppo never values the enthusiast community (just see how hard it is to apply for "deep test" and unlock bootloader), however it seems they are changing their thinking with Realme, at least it is easier to unlock on Realme devices and there are increasing number of developers and 3rd party Roms for Realme devices.
3597dxta said:
Thanks a lot pal, your review deserves many likes, I'm using a domestic Oppo Reno 10x and I have to say that what you said was all truth
Buy the way if you're a chinese guy than I have to be admired your english
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Actually I'm from Hong Kong
Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed with my Chinese model.
I didn't know I was going to get a Chinese model when I bought the phone to use in the USA. At least I only paid $400 for it. :/
nerdydesi said:
Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed with my Chinese model.
I didn't know I was going to get a Chinese model when I bought the phone to use in the USA. At least I only paid $400 for it. :/
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My sentiments EXACTLY!! I can't decide whether to just keep it until something better comes out or to go ahead and find a Global model to replace it...
Hey,
this is my first post and i just have a quick question.
I just bought the chinese version since it just cost me about 370€.
It didn´t arrive yet but i´m wondering if i could just download the global rom from the official oppo website and flash it onto my device?
Edit: yeah not possible. Too stupid to read the whole text
Boss_Baby said:
Hey,
this is my first post and i just have a quick question.
I just bought the chinese version since it just cost me about 370€.
It didn´t arrive yet but i´m wondering if i could just download the global rom from the official oppo website and flash it onto my device?
Edit: yeah not possible. Too stupid to read the whole text
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I've managed to make mine at least "workable" with this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...e-launcher-t4067849/post82030819#post82030819
squallho1 said:
Having used Reno 10X China Version (PCCM00) for almost 6 months now, I must say overall it's a great device, but with some flaws in OS design that needs to be tweaked in order to make it usable. Few days ago, I was lucky enough to buy a used Reno 10X Global Version (CPH1919, my phone is a Taiwan version CPH1919TW to be more precise, but it shares the same rom as global version CPH1919EX) at reasonable price. Since it’s not often to own both China and Global version, I would like to share my comments on PCCM00 VS CPH1919. Since the main difference is the implementation of ColorOS, I think below applies to any Oppo / Realme phone comparing their China / Global version as well.
The PCCM00 has been upgraded to Android 10 beta, but I had used Android 9 for enough time before the upgrade.
Hardware:
Both shares the exact same hardware, no notable difference in size/weight nor screen/camera quality.
Preloaded software:
PCCM00 comes with a lot of bloatware, some of which is not removable without using ADB. It has Google framework, you can easily install Google Play APK and other Google services. (Making them usable is another story, see below). There’s no Google App and thus no Google Assistant, you get Breeno which is useless for non-Mandarin speakers or users outside China.
CPH1919 comes with all Google services preloaded as system app, you can also press power button for 0.5s to activate Google Assistant. There are still some bloatware, but most of them can be uninstalled directly.
Notification icon on status bar
PCCM00 has no option for displaying notification icon on status bar until very recent A44 firmware or Android 10 (ColorOS 7) beta. CPH1919 on the other hand, has this feature from day 1.
Application / Power management
The biggest downside for PCCM00 is its application / power management. Its application management is way too aggressive that by default, no application is allowed to be running in background, except for some common Chinese apps like WeChat. As a result, no application will be showing any notification or push message, or receiving any updates. To fix this, you must select custom power management, set each app to allow running in background, plus setting each app to allow auto-start. However, you are only allowed to set a maximum of 5 Apps auto-start, setting Gmail and Google App already takes you 2 (If you don’t set this, Google Assistant will be reset every time you run, as the system expects the Google App to be always running in the background), and you need to be very careful on the 3 quotas left. Even you have set all of the above for your IM / e-mail / news APP, the system will still sometimes not sending any update all of a sudden (it’s always too late when you discovered it), and you need to restart your phone to get it working again. The ColorOS 7 Beta seems to be a little bit better with more Apps included in the auto-start white list as default (like Facebook and WhatsApp), so you have more freedom on your own choice of 5 auto-start apps.
CPH1919, on the other hand, behaves much like a regular functioning phone. I get notification from all my apps without changing any settings in power management, yet I don’t see any big difference in battery life between the two phones.
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
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If you still have the Chinese variant with you , can you please share the default calendar and notes app . And it would be really nice if you can change the permissions of the said apps before posting . With default permissions the apps won't install . Someone has already shared the app in another thread but that one does not install because of the default permissions.
Thanks for sharing :good: I'm also an owner of PCCM00 which I bought while in Shanghai.
Overall I'm quite OK with this version since I don't use google related apps as often as I was back in US, one thing that bugs me the most is the the security measure on this phone. For example, PCCM00 doesn't come with "touble tap turn off screen" feature, and I didn't feel like changing the launcher with ADB since that breaks the full screen hand gesture. So installing a third-party app with this feature will ask you to turn on "Accessibility Service", but after a while the phone will automaticaly turn this feature off again without you knowing. After consulting on OPPP forum I find out this is how they protect and secure the phone and there's no other way to change it. Well this sucks, I still can't figure out a way or if there will ever be a way.
By the way, did you buy CPH1919 within China or elsewhere? I'm looking to replace my with the global version, still trying to find a seller but I'm stuck in Shanghai.
squallho1 said:
Having used Reno 10X China Version (PCCM00) for almost 6 months now, I must say overall it's a great device, but with some flaws in OS design that needs to be tweaked in order to make it usable. Few days ago, I was lucky enough to buy a used Reno 10X Global Version (CPH1919, my phone is a Taiwan version CPH1919TW to be more precise, but it shares the same rom as global version CPH1919EX) at reasonable price. Since it’s not often to own both China and Global version, I would like to share my comments on PCCM00 VS CPH1919. Since the main difference is the implementation of ColorOS, I think below applies to any Oppo / Realme phone comparing their China / Global version as well.
The PCCM00 has been upgraded to Android 10 beta, but I had used Android 9 for enough time before the upgrade.
Hardware:
Both shares the exact same hardware, no notable difference in size/weight nor screen/camera quality.
Preloaded software:
PCCM00 comes with a lot of bloatware, some of which is not removable without using ADB. It has Google framework, you can easily install Google Play APK and other Google services. (Making them usable is another story, see below). There’s no Google App and thus no Google Assistant, you get Breeno which is useless for non-Mandarin speakers or users outside China.
CPH1919 comes with all Google services preloaded as system app, you can also press power button for 0.5s to activate Google Assistant. There are still some bloatware, but most of them can be uninstalled directly.
Notification icon on status bar
PCCM00 has no option for displaying notification icon on status bar until very recent A44 firmware or Android 10 (ColorOS 7) beta. CPH1919 on the other hand, has this feature from day 1.
Application / Power management
The biggest downside for PCCM00 is its application / power management. Its application management is way too aggressive that by default, no application is allowed to be running in background, except for some common Chinese apps like WeChat. As a result, no application will be showing any notification or push message, or receiving any updates. To fix this, you must select custom power management, set each app to allow running in background, plus setting each app to allow auto-start. However, you are only allowed to set a maximum of 5 Apps auto-start, setting Gmail and Google App already takes you 2 (If you don’t set this, Google Assistant will be reset every time you run, as the system expects the Google App to be always running in the background), and you need to be very careful on the 3 quotas left. Even you have set all of the above for your IM / e-mail / news APP, the system will still sometimes not sending any update all of a sudden (it’s always too late when you discovered it), and you need to restart your phone to get it working again. The ColorOS 7 Beta seems to be a little bit better with more Apps included in the auto-start white list as default (like Facebook and WhatsApp), so you have more freedom on your own choice of 5 auto-start apps.
CPH1919, on the other hand, behaves much like a regular functioning phone. I get notification from all my apps without changing any settings in power management, yet I don’t see any big difference in battery life between the two phones.
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
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I got mine used from 'idlefish', also developed by Alibaba but specifically for buy and sell used items.
Global version phone doesn't come up too often, but when they are they often come with discount (since to mainland users global versions are inferior).
Recently I saw a lot of sellers selling new Reno 5G UK version (CPH1921EE) at a discount, however it's still uncertain whether the 5G version will receive ColorOS 7...
Any help to unlock bootloader in global varient ?
Themes and theme store are an issue on global rom (depending upon region unless Asia/Australia from what I have heard). No such issue with the China device.
is that possible to set default browser of china version to chrome.
vidsava said:
is that possible to set default browser of china version to chrome.
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You have to use ADB to disable or completly uninstall the default browser, setting the default brower doesn't help much.
I have been using this cool gadget for several days. I wanted to check how I was sleeping, my heart rate and oxygen saturation. The latter option is usually not available on similar class devices.
To be able to use the band on phones from other manufacturers, you should install THREE gigantic and probably too many applications that want to know about us:
- App store, such a Huawei store (but you can skip this app)
- Huawei Mobile Services (so-called HMS Core) currently version 4.0.3.316, 130 MB!
www.******************/download-the-latest-hms-core-apk
https://appstore.huawei.com/app/C10132067
from this last address you cannot download / install even after logging in! It is possible to download via Ass store, thus it is another coercion
- Huawei Health, currently version 10.0.5.521, 95 MB!
https://appgallery7.huawei.com/#/app/C10414141
Also, you can't download without a store!
and above all set up an account on Huawei servers.
The above files can be downloaded from Chinese Huawei websites, but oddly enough they are in slightly older versions ...
I've done all the steps, but I prefer light, open and privacy-friendly software from the F-doid store.
I would like to ask if anyone of you successfully combined this band with a smart phone other than Huawei and using a different type of health application? I tried to detect it in Redmi 4x through much lighter and "theoretical" apps specific to my device:
mi.health_1.2.5-10205.com (no installation possible, crashes)
mi.health_2.1.1-20101.com (no installation possible, spills out)
xiaomi.hm.health_4.0.17-50274.com (installed, appears in the store as Mi Fit)
but unfortunately failed to connect.
moderom said:
I have been using this cool gadget for several days. I wanted to check how I was sleeping, my heart rate and oxygen saturation. The latter option is usually not available on similar class devices.
To be able to use the band on phones from other manufacturers, you should install THREE gigantic and probably too many applications that want to know about us:
- App store, such a Huawei store (but you can skip this app)
- Huawei Mobile Services (so-called HMS Core) currently version 4.0.3.316, 130 MB!
www.******************/download-the-latest-hms-core-apk
https://appstore.huawei.com/app/C10132067
from this last address you cannot download / install even after logging in! It is possible to download via Ass store, thus it is another coercion
- Huawei Health, currently version 10.0.5.521, 95 MB!
https://appgallery7.huawei.com/#/app/C10414141
Also, you can't download without a store!
and above all set up an account on Huawei servers.
The above files can be downloaded from Chinese Huawei websites, but oddly enough they are in slightly older versions ...
I've done all the steps, but I prefer light, open and privacy-friendly software from the F-doid store.
I would like to ask if anyone of you successfully combined this band with a smart phone other than Huawei and using a different type of health application? I tried to detect it in Redmi 4x through much lighter and "theoretical" apps specific to my device:
mi.health_1.2.5-10205.com (no installation possible, crashes)
mi.health_2.1.1-20101.com (no installation possible, spills out)
xiaomi.hm.health_4.0.17-50274.com (installed, appears in the store as Mi Fit)
but unfortunately failed to connect.
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I'm using it on Asus Zenfone max pro m1
Because low development of this band people did not want to make alternative app for this band...but in case of mi band 4 there are many apps available
dsbhai said:
Because low development of this band people did not want to make alternative app for this band...but in case of mi band 4 there are many apps available
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Thanks and btw I returned my honor band to get mi band 5.
Hi,
I am considering to buy a Mi Band 5. But I am definitely not going to use the MiFit app, as I don't want to share my health data (or any data, for that matter) with a Chinese company.
So I was looking at Notify & Fitness. I understand that in the past you needed to use a modified MiFit app to obtain some Auth code. I could certainly do that if necessary, using some old, empty, rooted Android phone.
But on the current Play Store page of N&F it says "All Mi Bands 1,2,3,4,5 supported. No official app needed". They even claim that N&F can do firmware updates.
Can anyone here confirm this? Have the N&F people figured out how to pair the device without the AuthKey / completely without MiFit? This almost sounds too good to be true. Even less plausible seems the firmware update claim.
And while we are at it, does N&F allow controlling Android music apps from the Mi Band (in my case, Shuttle+ music player)?
Thanks a lot, and Cheers,
rh
rhhd said:
Hi,
I am considering to buy a Mi Band 5. But I am definitely not going to use the MiFit app, as I don't want to share my health data (or any data, for that matter) with a Chinese company.
So I was looking at Notify & Fitness. I understand that in the past you needed to use a modified MiFit app to obtain some Auth code. I could certainly do that if necessary, using some old, empty, rooted Android phone.
But on the current Play Store page of N&F it says "All Mi Bands 1,2,3,4,5 supported. No official app needed". They even claim that N&F can do firmware updates.
Can anyone here confirm this? Have the N&F people figured out how to pair the device without the AuthKey / completely without MiFit? This almost sounds too good to be true. Even less plausible seems the firmware update claim.
And while we are at it, does N&F allow controlling Android music apps from the Mi Band (in my case, Shuttle+ music player)?
Thanks a lot, and Cheers,
rh
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I have just purchased a Mi Smart Band 5 purely for the heart rate and sleep data for Google Fit and I don't like the idea of the data being shared with a Chinese company.
The initial install of the MiFit app seems to suggest you don't need to sign up for a Mi account and offers FaceBook & Google as options, however neither of these work and I get a message saying this isn't available in my region (UK). So I set up a Mi account just to play around with it. It all seems to work OK and it connects to Google Fit and provides the sleep & heart rate data.
I installed the Notify & Fitness app from the Play Store, however it just doesn't work. I have tried with the MiFit app installed as well as without it (using the Mod'd MiFit app to get the AuthKey). It just doesn't connect. The guide on the website - http://forum.mibandnotify.com/discussion/184/band-is-not-connecting-pairing-and-sync-solutions doesn't help at all. It seems to suggest my band isn't genuine?
In the Notify settings it shows the correct MAC address but says 'Band Identifier -1 - Unknown device'. None of the tests in the Notify app work - i.e. display text, vibrate etc.
I have tried three different phones (Pixel 4XL with stock Android 11, a Samsung Galaxy S6 and a S6 Edge running the Pixel Experience Android 10 ROM) and its the same behaviour on all of them.
Its as if the app doesn't have access to bluetooth?
I'll keep playing around with it but its not looking good.
EDIT: I downloaded an earlier version of Notify & Fitness for Mi Band from a mirror site (10.1.4) as opposed to the latest version on the Play Store (10.3.8) and this worked first time. It looks like the app was only updated on the Play Store yesterday so I suspect there is a bug,....
ADB100 said:
EDIT: I downloaded an earlier version of Notify & Fitness for Mi Band from a mirror site (10.1.4) as opposed to the latest version on the Play Store (10.3.8) and this worked first time. It looks like the app was only updated on the Play Store yesterday so I suspect there is a bug,....
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback. :good:
Can you confirm that it is possible to setup the MB5 without ever installing MiFit? Thanks again!
rhhd said:
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. :good:
Can you confirm that it is possible to setup the MB5 without ever installing MiFit? Thanks again!
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No, I think you need to go through the process at least once.....