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Mate 9 Pro scratching like crazy

Have to say that I am quite dissapointed how soft metal the backcover seems to be. I always use my phones naked and I have never had a lot of scratches. Even my S6 and S7 edge survived for one year with only minor scratches. However I have had this phone now for 3 weeks and its already looking worse than any other phone I ever had.
To make matter worse is that there seems to be only one cover for this phone, and I simply hate flipcovers. If this had Oneplus style wooden slim covers I would order already and go on with my life, but now there is either that unconvenient flipcover or make my phone look like it slid down from Mt. Everest (twice).

.... Or you could use the plastic cover that came with the phone..

middi65 said:
.... Or you could use the plastic cover that came with the phone..
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There is none with Mate 9 Pro.

CandyAndy said:
There is none with Mate 9 Pro.
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There was one in my package..
.. and according to this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0FmH7lD1uw
and several others on youtube theres is a small see-through plastic cover included.

also got a pre applied screen protector.. mate 9 pro

CandyAndy said:
There is none with Mate 9 Pro.
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I got a case in the box with my Mate 9 Pro
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goran85 said:
also got a pre applied screen protector.. mate 9 pro
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Me too, though it is of doubtful quality.

I am talking about the back side only. Not front glass. Since I have owned both below:
iPhone 7 jet black gets scratched easily
Samsung Note 7 gets scratched easily
What do you expect from Huawei ?

Emerald Core said:
I am talking about the back side only. Not front glass. Since I have owned both below:
iPhone 7 jet black gets scratched easily
Samsung Note 7 gets scratched easily
What do you expect from Huawei ?
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The material resemble the S7 Edge alot, so I guess it will get some usage scratches with time. I find it pretty nice, that Huawei gives a case along in the box, as well as they has already applied a screen protection from the factory. That is good style.

well lol..I do feel a bit stupid now. Seems like next time should open the box where are the manuals..and yup, there with the manuals is the back cover. The pre-applied screen cover was horrible, it got some hair (I have a dog..) under it after just one day using it so I just took it off.
This back cover however is really nice. One of the best ones I have ever used. Too bad I already scratched the back..a bit angry to myself now.

just got my Mate 9 pro with a pre applied screen protector and a clear plastic case inside the box.

Canada anybody recommend a proper screen protector? The one applied from the factory is horribly poor - mine for a Scratch within two Days and a tiny air bubble appeared. Right in the middle of the display. Extremely annoying. I usually never use screen protectors, but I have a feeling I should with This one. Why Else would they bother putting IT there, right?

Regarding the scratches on the back, yeah I had my first after only a few days.
Resorted to buy a "skinomi" carbon skin as I didn't want to lose the perfect size of my phone with a full cover.
It looks and works perfectly so far, the skin fits and looks like preinstalled.
Regarding screen protection,
I ordered pretty much everything that is in offer as a screen protectors, as I prefer glas I tried those first.
Glas protectors for the Mate 9 Pro are either too thin, as in not covering all of the screen, or, the "3D advertised" ones, are only applied through a thin layer of glue on the sides (which attracts dust like crazy and doesnt really stay).
So i had to go with a TPU, soft foil solution, it looks not as brilliant but atleast stays in place and covers all of the screen.
What I did as well, was, before attaching the soft foil, I applied "liquid" display protection, which raises the scratch and break resistance. Those liquid solutions usually only work for like a year before they wear off, but if you simply attach a normal screen protector on tops, it should be a permanent protection.

I'm realy impressed of my Zagg InvisibleSHIELD HD Dry. Compleatly scratch free after 6 months. Lifetime guarante and clear as glas.

Mediapad M3 - Gorilla glass or do I need a screen protector

Hi, does anyone know if this screen is made of toughened glass such as Gorilla Glass, or should I get a case that also protects the screen?

It comes with a plastic screen protector. I bought a two pack of glass ones on Amazon for it for $10 out of habit. They have saved a variety of screens for me on phones and like the feel of glass protectors to plastic.
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A little story: When I bought my Huawei mobile, people smiled when I added a protective hard glass screen. Three days later, whilst reaching for something from a shelf, I knocked a pair of wire-cutters down. They fell, points down, hit the screen about 10mm in from the edge and the glass shattered. The underlying phone's screen was perfect, and with a new protective screen, is still perfect two years later.
Need I say more? When I ordered the MediaPad M3, a hard glass protective screen was ordered at the same time.
The only negative, is that it makes the fingerprint scanner *a little* more difficult to use, but it still works every time!

It hasn't. My mediapad 8.4 damaged from many micro scratch badly.

Cracks on screen or plastic screen protector? (huawei p10 plus)

Hello there,
I don't understand one thing. I bought brand new huawei p10 plus. Few weeks later i got cracks for no reason on my screen but they where on the very front glass. Is that crack on plastic protector or on an actual screen? Is there any protector anyways? Can i use my phone without that plastic protector? Last phone i had was samsung galaxy core (yes, pretty old phone) so i don't know a lot about these new phones.
Thanks!

There is a plastic screen protector preapplied on the p10 and p10 plus but is just a film layer, it should not be cracked, only scratched.
however I did remove from mine because supposed to be a dead pixel on the LCD, but it was just a piece of dust.
and did not find a perfect protector for a while and this and the Huawei Flip case made my Gorilla Glass 5 scratched as hell.
Ghost Shield is a good protector film, soft, and cover all the glass except the fingerprint reader.
but if you want glass protector I find one what is good enough called Motcha.

Galaxy S9/S9 Plus Screen Protector Buyers Guide

Hey guys, For those of you who don't know me I have a channel GravX Reviews... I started it after becoming utterly pissed off with Tempered glass screen protectors for curved screens. Finally Found a good one for the S7 Edge in Whitestone Dome glass...But i wanted something you just slap on with no crazy installation...My channel was a result of that search... Hopefully this can help clarify and save you money ( I'm also writing this so you don't have to watch the video I am working on) The glass i talk about can rang from.20mm to .50mm in thickness..most are .33 mm.
This Knowledge is from testing over 400 kinds of Tempered glass over 4 years , needless to say i have a small idea of what Im talking about-( all from amazon-ebay or allibaba) im sure some of you will be ignorant enough to tell me I'm wrong and that glass truly is different..That's fine your entitled to your opinion .. All I'm doing is trying to help save people money and frustration- I wont try and sell you any product... Ive used the case friendly version for a long time because it was cheap and easy to pop off and on.. I noticed some touch issues...with all of them but i just got used to it.. In the end you get what ever you want. this is just here as a guide
All of these items can be bought on alibaba for 10-20cents for the edged adhesive ones in bulk...the re-sellers send them custom graphics for their boxes and then sell them like they designed it...( so stupid) kind of like zero lemons 5500 MAH battery case... its the same one as the 5500 MAH cases on ebay-
1st. Types of Glass screen protectors for the Galaxy S9/Plus or any protector for that matter..
Case Friendly ( any one that looks like this will be virtually identical to the next ( it might have thicker or slimmer black silk printing) ( which is the Black or white or what ever color they use) They also come in clear
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Ca...9d-20&linkId=0e4c23f42c372db5a43d5221f96f8d2f
Pros-
Can be cheap
Works with most cases- But not all... UAG <<cough cough>>
Easy and fast to put on
Will protect your phone
oleophobic coating is cheap and comes off fast.
Cons
Edged Adhesive ( they will try to trick you by saying "full Coverage
Micro Dot matrix - AKA "pixel grid Technology" such a stupid term
"precision Grid matrix" "Perfect touch Grid" Its all the same stupid ****- Its placed into screen protectors that don't have full adhesive to assist in the identification of touch on the display by the digitizer panel
Re sellers grossly over charge for them and add Bull**** terms such as shatterproof...or ballistic or bulletproof...explosion proof- Anti Fingerprint ETC
2. Case friendly Full adhesive
They made cheap soft glass ones for the S8 and note 8 and they sucked...one side always had air bubbles.
The new Version is supposedly Hard Glass- Zagg is making the Curve glass elite
https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invis...protector/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-s9
I have it on order and will test it when i get it next week.
Im sure if the product is good it will have more sellers... Zagg does have a lifetime warranty which cost 5 -10 dollars to ship depending where you are, which if the product is good might make a worthy investment...But time will tell
2A- Case Friendly Privacy screens-
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Ve...9d-20&linkId=ea6e28cfd2269ce9a43cb5ecdab9a914
Identical to the the above mentioned case friendly ones but with an extra layer of Privacy Film ( which makes it thicker
They all have edged adhesive and they are all the same product..Nothing special between sellers- NO MATTER what they say
3. Full Coverage Screen Protectors ( otterbox will sell an Alpha glass version of this that might be cut Short like the Galaxy Note 8 Version...But its the same thing...just a few inches shorter ( all pros and Cons Apply)
So many of these flood the market and they are all the same garbage with Edge strips of adhesive ( the ones for the S9 / S9 plus have thicker bands of edged adhesive...but it will still cause issues..
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Co...9d-20&linkId=4e1080c6fdae78ae656456b35cc76aae
Pros-
Covers your entire display
Cheap
Easy to put on
Cons
Doesn't work with a lot of cases
( it does work with Casemate ToughStand and ToughMag)
Sellers overcharge for the same ****ty product ( while adding flashy words like Bullet proof or 11 lbs of protection)
Will have touch issues with the screen due to edged adhesive ( it works OK..but some people will notice a degradation of sensitivity
Micro Dots
4. Full Coverage Full adhesive
This is the same as the regular full screen one before but with Full adhesive according the seller
https://www.amazon.com/Improve-Sens...9d-20&linkId=dd8fec54bddaa1443f4d9fc10dee4983
All the Pros as the Full screen Coverage version... Just with " Full screen Adhesive"
Cons if the adhesive is truly full screen would only be case compatibility
5. Case Friendly UV Glass kits ( whitestone Dome Glass and Alibaba Generic Kit)
Whitestone- https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Gl...9d-20&linkId=bdf7dd57946aa39b9e1d31c7b35156df
Alibaba Generic ( you need to buy 10 minimum order to get them
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...l?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.30.466f2b24loSX3N
UV KIT
Pros- Japanese Glass All the above use Chinese glass - Yes you can See and feel a difference -
Crystal Clear - no Micro Dot)
Oleophobic coating is high quality and can last up too 6 months depending on usage
Hydrophobic coating can last even longer.
Sealed due to the LOCA adhesive used , meaning no water or dirt can get under the glass
Cons
Expensive
Complicated installation
Easy to mess up
If you get dirt under it your screwed
Cannot be replaced after curing is done ( well..it can but its not worth the headache cleaning it up)
If done wrong and the safeguards aren't in place you can get adhesive in your speaker grill ( use the Speaker covers included)
The whitestone Kit while a lot more expensive then the allibaba generic kit does have a warranty and Whitestone is actively involved in customer satisfaction- they were the first to market this..
White stone has the Speaker Cover stickers which are an awesome touch and requested feature by alot of us. I dont know if the Generic One has them.. I didn't see it on the Images and they supplier has not answered me yet... Since the seller is the factory that makes them for whitestone it should - i think its shaddy AF that whitestones Factory Supplier is selling the Dome Kit unbranded and at a huge price difference...but i cant say im surprised.
If i missed anything please let me know
I didn't include FILM protectors..because they are useless and i didnt include liquid coating kits becuase they are essentially snake oil and will help with water and fingerprint resistance at the most... I will however be testing these products too see if they change in the past 3 years. I hope this helps you guys! Feel free to drop by the channel and show some love and support ( only if you want )
GravX Reviews

Are there any good glass without dot matrix for those with extra Whitestone LOCA or DIY LOCA?

Cheaper UV light solution aka whitestone dome from china can be found here, and you can buy only one if you want, not 10 minimum like alibaba.
Also full screen adhesive protector aka the Zagg curve elite can be found for half the price here as well.
I bought both and will report back after i receive them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B...l+adhesive&dpPl=1&dpID=41RhK1whyLL&ref=plSrch
This looks legit? The generic whitestone from alibaba charges too much to ship here. She charges me $21 for shipping! How much was your shipping cost?

xterminater07 said:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B...l+adhesive&dpPl=1&dpID=41RhK1whyLL&ref=plSrch
This looks legit? The generic whitestone from alibaba charges too much to ship here. She charges me $21 for shipping! How much was your shipping cost?
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Don't get the one you linked from Amazon. That one only covers the flat part of the screen. I had something similar on my S7 Edge and you can see the rainbow effect along the edges of the screen protector.
The one on Aliexpress is $29 with UV light and $25 without. I might consider trying it.

yoyobabyyo said:
Don't get the one you linked from Amazon. That one only covers the flat part of the screen. I had something similar on my S7 Edge and you can see the rainbow effect along the edges of the screen protector.
The one on Aliexpress is $29 with UV light and $25 without. I might consider trying it.
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I don't mind it not covering the curved part because no protector will, even whitestone doesn't cover the curved edges, but if it's full adhesive, you should not see rainbow right?
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mahdibassam said:
Cheaper UV light solution aka whitestone dome from china can be found here, and you can buy only one if you want, not 10 minimum like alibaba.
Also full screen adhesive protector aka the Zagg curve elite can be found for half the price here as well.
I bought both and will report back after i receive them.
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The curved one from aliexpress is same as the curved one on amazon I linked. Both stops short of where the curve is. I wonder if the Zagg is the same?

xterminater07 said:
I don't mind it not covering the curved part because no protector will, even whitestone doesn't cover the curved edges, but if it's full adhesive, you should not see rainbow right?
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The curved one from aliexpress is same as the curved one on amazon I linked. Both stops short of where the curve is. I wonder if the Zagg is the same?
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Sorry. I wasn't being clear enough in my description. What I mean was that the screen protector doesn't cover the edge screen where it starts to curve down, only the part where it is completely flat. When you swipe to bring out the edge panel, you will have to run your finger up the edge of the screen protector, like a speed bump.

I figured that was the case, probably same vendor as the amazon one as they all come out of China.

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I didn't include FILM protectors..because they are useless and i didnt include liquid coating kits becuase they are essentially snake oil and will help with water and fingerprint resistance at the most... I will however be testing these products too see if they change in the past 3 years. I hope this helps you guys! Feel free to drop by the channel and show some love and support ( only if you want )
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Thanks for this excellent write-up. I'm curious why you say film protectors are useless? I have been using ZAGG's invisibleSHIELD HD Clarity on my S7 and found it to be excellent. In particular, I use a thin case (Ringke) which only provides a slight recess for the screen. So when I've dropped the phone square on the screen, I've noticed that in spite of landing on pebbles or rocks, the invisible shield took the brunt of the force and eventually "healed" itself (warped back into shape) with no damage to the glass.
I've been contemplating moving to a hard glass screen protector for a while, but have been very pleased with the level of protection I've been getting from these invisible shields. What are negatives versus glass?

The invisshield seems to curve around the glass for their note 8 one so maybe their s9 one will curve as well? They use a full adhesive method but without the plastic placeholder and at $20 ish. I haven't ordered one yet. Hoping Gravx can compare it to the other protectors out their. Guy might send one out for review to Gravx if he asks for one.

Video version with curve elite
Curve elite Hands on
I should have my phone today
So I'll start the glass videos soon

I saw you mention the whitestone uses Japanese glass. Does the generic full adhesive glass from Ali use Japanese glass?

rlatjs17 said:
I saw you mention the whitestone uses Japanese glass. Does the generic full adhesive glass from Ali use Japanese glass?
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This is what was listed in the description:
2.Made from the highest grade Japan Asahi Glass, our multilayered screen protectors are made with polished, rounded edges and provide 99.99% HD Clarity and Touch Accuracy.
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Their product looks exactly like Whitestone's.

I got the Zagg installed on my phone at Best Buy today and i hadn't noticed till I got home at night that it doesn't really cover the edges all the way

BiigDragon said:
I got the Zagg installed on my phone at Best Buy today and i hadn't noticed till I got home at night that it doesn't really cover the edges all the way
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I don't think any of them actually do. That's why I don't like the black boarder. I ordered a Bodyguardz to try
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Removing my Whitestone after the curring process and cleaning it was fairly easy. Soaked the glass in 70% isopropyl alcohol for an hour or so. I was easily able to scrape the glue off with my fingernail. Soaked it a bit longer and then used a microfiber clothe soaked in the alcohol to further clean it and get more adhesive off. (all adhesive was removed) Reapplied the screen protector with the 2nd bottle and it went on perfect. YMMV

Do not buy this product
Despite following the instructions to the letter this product did not sit flat on my phone , rather it only stuck in the middle.
I strongly advise to avoid the invisibleshield glass cover for s9+ and wait for something better to come along. Do NOT buy

Zagg is honestly a RIP off. They always lie and use marketing bs. A ton of large youtubers over 1mil subs have proven this multiple times. I'm surprised the community at xda one of the more knowledgable forums out there keep buying it. Not to mention our own GravX doing some good comparisons for us.
Save yourself the $50 and the $15 shipping replacement.

Here is the Klearlook tempered glass. I have provided photos and I will update about the touch sensitivity experience along with if the glass stays onto the display or if it has cracked. In my limited experience, the feeling of the tempered glass does feel different than having no tempered glass. The glass is compatible with the Spigen Rugged Crystal Slim Clear Case. It does appear to be similar or exactly like the Caseology glass since it comes with that installation protector.
Edit: It is a pixel dot matrix screen protector. So far, I haven't noticed any touch sensitivity issues yet but I will continue to update.
Edit 2: Touch sensitivity hasn't been an issue for the past few days so far. I also used pointer option in developer tools and I didn't see any dead spots. Tempered glass hasn't cracked. Oleophobic coating is not good. Tempered glass is very reflective and can make scenarios such as looking at the phone for navigation to be a visual challenge.
Edit 3: It has been a few weeks since I have owned the screen protector. It has not cracked or lifted. I haven't had issues with touch sensitivity (keep in mind I have increase touch sensitivity option on). Seems like a dust magnet. I will continue to use this tempered glass as the positives out weights the negatives. In the end, it protects my phone and it has not got in the way of my touch screen experience.
Edit 4: I dropped my phone at the gym with a case on and part of the top is chipped. The rest of the screen's integrity is in tact. Oleophobic coating is considered decent.
Edit 5: A few months since I have owned the phone and tempered glass. After I dropped it from the gym, I replaced it with a new one. I only have touch screen issues sometimes (typing on keyboard). The tempered glass has not peeled off. It has not randomly cracked. Decent to poor oleophobic coating. You can see the finger prints easily. Not difficult to see when using it as a GPS.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B2PV9Q2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

MacShark said:
Here is the Klearlook tempered glass. I have provided photos and I will update about the touch sensitivity experience along with if the glass stays onto the display or if it has cracked. In my limited experience, the feeling of the tempered glass does feel different than having no tempered glass. It appears this is not a pixel dot matrix tempered glass. The glass is compatible with the Spigen Rugged Crystal Slim Clear Case. It does appear to be similar or exactly like the ZAGG glass.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B2PV9Q2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Do you hear popping noise or clicking noise when you type with this screen on? It's probably edge adhesive, and not good like the rest. To see the dot matrix, you have to look really careful.

Gorrila Glass ???

Does this phone have Gorrila glass protection ?

No. It doesn't. It just has 2.5D curved glass in front. No gorillla glass.

BTW everyone uses Tempered Glass nowadays, doesn't matter if its Zenfone Max Pro or Galaxy S9 alongwith Protective Case. So it won't make any difference.
And you can buy Complete protection for a whole year only for RS 49 and thats nothing if we compare to our daily expenses.

ra_si said:
BTW everyone uses Tempered Glass nowadays, doesn't matter if its Zenfone Max Pro or Galaxy S9 alongwith Protective Case. So it won't make any difference.
And you can buy Complete protection for a whole year only for RS 49 and thats nothing if we compare to our daily expenses.
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The screen damage protection is included in the complete protection? To be more precise I want to know if somehow the screen breaks or gets a scratch it will be replaced for free if I buy the complete protection?

No Gorilla Glass... But they dropped it from 2-3 meters high when they test it on the factory

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No Gorilla Glass... But they dropped it from 2-3 meters high when they test it on the factory
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how do you this information?

No gorilla glass. Scratch the screen if you won't believe this.

jithutty said:
Does this phone have Gorrila glass protection ?
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No Gorilla Glass as ASUS has already confirmed amidst the speculations, but, BUT, it has a special screen protection by ASUS which they claim isn't bad at all, of course, it ca't be compared with the Corning Gorilla Glass as yet. I don't know the quality of that screen's protection but ti should be better than a normal screen of course..
Moreover, this shouldn't really be a big concern as most users will have a tempered glass protection on top. So nothing to worry about.

how do you this information?
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Because I was invited by ASUS to visit their factory in Batam... I see it with my own eyes

SumitGupta2442 said:
The screen damage protection is included in the complete protection? To be more precise I want to know if somehow the screen breaks or gets a scratch it will be replaced for free if I buy the complete protection?
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Yes, if its dropped or gets broken then its covered. Not for Scratches though. BTW who asks for screen replacement for Scratches.??

So screen protector / tempered glass still needed ?
or the screen is safe without it.
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No Gorilla Glass as ASUS has already confirmed amidst the speculations, but, BUT, it has a special screen protection by ASUS which they claim isn't bad at all, of course, it ca't be compared with the Corning Gorilla Glass as yet. I don't know the quality of that screen's protection but ti should be better than a normal screen of course..
Moreover, this shouldn't really be a big concern as most users will have a tempered glass protection on top. So nothing to worry about.
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So screen is already protected right ?
I'm bad English.

The screen is already strong enough, asus already testing it in their factory (in batam), slamming it from 2 meters high using robot, and the screen doesn't crack at all!

For someone who might want to see the video.
Skip to 14:28 if you want to see the slamming method.
I will still put TG/screen protector though, it is much cheaper and make me sleep better.

scratch resistance and impact resistance are two dirrerent things. Impact resistant glass would not mean its scratch resistant. If the phone falls down on screen, it might not shatter, but through daily use, you'd probably get scratches easily. Better get a good quality tempered glass for protecting against scratches.

gusbalaa said:
So screen protector / tempered glass still needed ?
or the screen is safe without it.
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So screen is already protected right ?
I'm bad English.
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This phone needs a 5D tempered glass for full protection i guess... Anyone know any such glass for this device?

Glass isn't gorilla for sure
But it's durable
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Desmanto said:
For someone who might want to see the video.
Skip to 14:28 if you want to see the slamming method.
I will still put TG/screen protector though, it is much cheaper and make me sleep better.
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Yup this makes me happy

Which insurance or website gives for 49bucks?
Link please...

gusbalaa said:
So screen protector / tempered glass still needed ?
or the screen is safe without it.
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So screen is already protected right ?
I'm bad English.
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Just buy a tempered glass on Tokopedia, it's dirt cheap and costs like around 20k Rupiah (which is the cheapest) and around 100k for the most expensive. Better safe than sorry imo, also the stock screen from what I've heard only provides the oleophobic coating so the more reason to get an extra layer of protection.

.hack//G.U. said:
Just buy a tempered glass on Tokopedia, it's dirt cheap and costs like around 20k Rupiah (which is the cheapest) and around 100k for the most expensive. Better safe than sorry imo, also the stock screen from what I've heard only provides the oleophobic coating so the more reason to get an extra layer of protection.
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I'm using Nilkin Tempered Glass, around 100k rupiah also on Tokopedia. Best screen guard i ever use.

gusbalaa said:
I'm using Nilkin Tempered Glass, around 100k rupiah also on Tokopedia. Best screen guard i ever use.
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Good choice mate :good: