Redmi 3S development == Redmi 4 prada too? (2/16 version) - Xiaomi Redmi 3s Questions & Answers

I'm still waiting for my phone to be arrived, but unfortunately they told me Xiaomi no longer distribute 3S, so instead they gave me the idea to keep a Redmi 4.
My question is, do Redmi 3S recovery/kernel, custom ROMs work on Redmi 4?
The only difference is the camera, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth everything is the same as Redmi 3S
Redmi 3S: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_3s-8150.php
Redmi 4: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_4-8419.php

No it wont
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akshat2012 said:
No it wont
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Could you explain why it wouldn't work?
Redmi 3S and Redmi 4 both has the same chipset aswell as GPU

Kizoky said:
Could you explain why it wouldn't work?
Redmi 3S and Redmi 4 both has the same chipset aswell as GPU
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Maybe the current 3S development scene will be useful as an initial base for future development with the redmi 4, but we don't know if the rest of the hardware will be the same (touch input, RIL, microphone, partition table, etc etc.). If the hardware is different, devs will have to dig another models or brand source drivers, make new binaries, blah blah.
So if you're asking if a ROM built for Redmi 3S will work on Redmi 4, the answer is NO, and trying it is firmly discouraged.
If you're asking if 3S ROMs will share code or serve as base for Redmi 4 ROMs, the answer could be a YES, but a real dev should answer this after trying.
Greetings from Mexico.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8419&idPhone2=8250
look the same

Make a full nandroid backup and try! We are interested wheater it works!

I compared every file, and It seems prada indeed is the same as land's 16GB version
There are some minor differences, but It seems they are really the same.
If you check this: https://github.com/Kizoky/android_device_xiaomi_prada
You can see that I previously created this for 3S, but I converted it into prada files, there aren't any huge differences.
One could flash a Redmi 3S Marshmallow ROM, but at the end reflash original boot.img to see If it boots.
Camera, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth may not work, but If everything else is working, then only these 3 needs some changes in the Redmi 3S' kernel If Xiaomi refuses to release Prada's kernel sources
Unfortunately Redmi 4 doesn't have a subforum like Redmi 4 Prime, that's why I created this thread, as Redmi 4 is very identical to 3S in every aspect.

Kizoky said:
I compared every file, and It seems prada indeed is the same as land's 16GB version
There are some minor differences, but It seems they are really the same.
If you check this: https://github.com/Kizoky/android_device_xiaomi_prada
You can see that I previously created this for 3S, but I converted it into prada files, there aren't any huge differences.
One could flash a Redmi 3S Marshmallow ROM, but at the end reflash original boot.img to see If it boots.
Camera, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth may not work, but If everything else is working, then only these 3 needs some changes in the Redmi 3S' kernel If Xiaomi refuses to release Prada's kernel sources
Unfortunately Redmi 4 doesn't have a subforum like Redmi 4 Prime, that's why I created this thread, as Redmi 4 is very identical to 3S in every aspect.
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wont work , dont brick your device warning u now

akshat2012 said:
wont work , dont brick your device warning u now
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Yes, most likely I would brick the phone, but I don't have the phone yet because It is still shipping
I will give it a few tests once I've got my hands on it and my BL is unlocked

i tried to install the redmi 4's lineage os 13 rom on redmi 3s and it perfectly booted i just replaced the boot.img of redmi 4's lineage os rom with the boot.img of redmi 3s's lineage rom cant the devs port the custom roms made for redmi 4 for the redmi 3s

kunal.solanki.965 said:
i tried to install the redmi 4's lineage os 13 rom on redmi 3s and it perfectly booted i just replaced the boot.img of redmi 4's lineage os rom with the boot.img of redmi 3s's lineage rom cant the devs port the custom roms made for redmi 4 for the redmi 3s
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It can be ported.
Earlier I stated that you can just simply replace the boot.img with Redmi 4's stock boot.img, but the performance won't be the same as in 3S, due to custom made changes in 3S' kernel which fixes bugs in the open source kernel. Some things like GPS wouldn't work

Okay, it seems prada has Goodix fingerprint scanner, just as Redmi 3S
I still don't know why it is very similar to 3S

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Are Xiaomi Redmi 2 & Xiaomi Mi 2 the same device??

Hello,
I am using a Xiaomi Redmi 2 device (Qualcomm Snapdragon 410)(wt88047).Is it the same as Xiaomi Mi 2??
And has there any Nougat Rom come out for the Xiaomi Redmi 2??? Will the AOSP unofficial nougat rom for Xiaomi Mi 2 work on Xiaomi Redmi 2??
Many Many thanks in advance.
they are NOT the same. MI2 was the first xiaomi smartphone. the MI series is the flagship series.
no they are not.
Hi,
Both are not the same devices. The Xiaomi Mi 2 and Xiaomi Redmi 2 are both different smartphone. Also, you cannot install the Unofficial AOSP based Nougat ROM made for Mi 2 smartphone on Redmi 2. Installing the ROM of other Device may soft-brick your device.
There is no Nougat Based ROM is available for Redmi 2, but there is Marshmallow based ROM available for Redmi 2. Check out the XDA Forum for CM13 ROM for Redmi 2/2A/Prime.
Not the Same ...
Mi series is the Main Line For Xiaomi whereas Redmi Series Different from that ..
Nougat ROM for Redmi 2/prime is there , Yes , the Work has begun .. Contact Premaca On XDA to know more and Visit his Tesla ROM thread (around page 57 or more) , this is a Work in Progress .. still not Publicly Available , but his Promise Is to deliver it as soon as It gets a Working Environment...

Xiaomi Redmi 4 Custom Roms Support Redmi 3s??

Redmi 4 are fully compatible with Redmi 3s
All are same as 3s ram,chipset,screen,etc
Custom ROM are supported on mi3s???
does that mean i can install redmi4 roms on a redmi3s?
of course not
Sent from my Redmi 3S using Tapatalk
You cannot install redmi 4 roms on redmi 3s prime because the processors are different
U did it ?
I read in another forum where one man install global rom from 3s to redmi 4. So device was bricked and then he can't install even official china rom for redmi 4 by MiFlash

Nougat update for MTK variant?

Hi guys
Any news about the Nougat update for the Redmi Note 4 MediaTek variant? Is this phone even planned to receive it? I mean it's still a new phone and it's weird for it to be abandoned by Xiaomi so quickly, the Snapdragon version which came out way after the MTK version has already Android 7. Please share with us any information you have about this subject
Thanks!
No-one here could possibly tell you...only Xiaomi knows that...
We willingly purchased this device with Android 6.0 only in the knowledge that it will be updated regularly with bug fixes & security updates etc & anything more than that is a bonus.
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
Same situation with RMN2/3 MTK version (Helio X10) when they released device with Android 5.0.2 and stuck forever with it, while RMN3 SD version already updated to Android 7.0 (there is screenshots of beta MIUI8 with Android N).
Because Qualcomm always released kernel source code so community developer can help build latest Android version, while Mediatek doesn't release any source code and if manufacturer want to upgrade they device to new Android version, they must pay a huge money for Mediatek (Mediatek keep kernel source code, you must ask them upgrade these kernel source code while Qualcomm do it for free) .
"en.miui.com/thread-479925-1-1.html"
Dear MIUI Fans
MIUI Global Beta ROM 7.1.19 is here. Hope you will enjoy it.
Announcement
MIUI 8 Global Public Beta Supported Devices
Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Mi 3, Mi 4, Redmi Note 3 Qualcomm, Redmi Note 3 Special Edition, Redmi Note 4 MTK, Mi 4i, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note 4G, Redmi Note Prime,**Mi Max 32GB, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime, Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm.
mcwong644 said:
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Dear MIUI Fans
MIUI Global Beta ROM 7.1.19 is here. Hope you will enjoy it.
Announcement
MIUI 8 Global Public Beta Supported Devices
Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Mi 3, Mi 4, Redmi Note 3 Qualcomm, Redmi Note 3 Special Edition, Redmi Note 4 MTK, Mi 4i, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note 4G, Redmi Note Prime,**Mi Max 32GB, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime, Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm.
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Wait, this is based on Nougat??
mcwong644 said:
"en.miui.com/thread-479925-1-1.html"
Dear MIUI Fans
MIUI Global Beta ROM 7.1.19 is here. Hope you will enjoy it.
Announcement
MIUI 8 Global Public Beta Supported Devices
Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Mi 3, Mi 4, Redmi Note 3 Qualcomm, Redmi Note 3 Special Edition, Redmi Note 4 MTK, Mi 4i, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note 4G, Redmi Note Prime,**Mi Max 32GB, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime, Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm.
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How is your post related to this thread?
mcwong644 said:
"en.miui.com/thread-479925-1-1.html"
Dear MIUI Fans
MIUI Global Beta ROM 7.1.19 is here. Hope you will enjoy it.
Announcement
MIUI 8 Global Public Beta Supported Devices
Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Mi 3, Mi 4, Redmi Note 3 Qualcomm, Redmi Note 3 Special Edition, Redmi Note 4 MTK, Mi 4i, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note 4G, Redmi Note Prime,**Mi Max 32GB, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime, Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm.
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It's still based on 6.0 marshmallow for Note 4 MTK model, no nougat for us.
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
Below is the description of miui 8 global beta 7.1.19 rom. Redmi note 4 mtk is supported and is based on nougat
MIUI 8 Global Beta 7.1.19 Brings Android 7.0 Nougat on Mi5 (Download & Install)
"MIUI 8 Global Beta 7.1.19 ROM supported device include Redmi 1S, Redmi 2/Prime, Mi 3, Mi 4, Redmi Note 3 (Qualcomm), Redmi Note 4 MTK, Mi 4i, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note 4G, Redmi Note Prime, Mi Max 32GB, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime and Redmi Note 4 (Qualcomm).
Note that this is the first ROM based on Nougat and it is also the last update before Chinese Lunar New Year Holiday. The release of the new versions will resume after 6 February."
mcwong644 said:
Below is the description of miui 8 global beta 7.1.19 rom. Redmi note 4 mtk is supported and is based on nougat
MIUI 8 Global Beta 7.1.19 Brings Android 7.0 Nougat on Mi5 (Download & Install)
"MIUI 8 Global Beta 7.1.19 ROM supported device include Redmi 1S, Redmi 2/Prime, Mi 3, Mi 4, Redmi Note 3 (Qualcomm), Redmi Note 4 MTK, Mi 4i, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note 4G, Redmi Note Prime, Mi Max 32GB, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Mi Note, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime and Redmi Note 4 (Qualcomm).
Note that this is the first ROM based on Nougat and it is also the last update before Chinese Lunar New Year Holiday. The release of the new versions will resume after 6 February."
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Hate to burst your bubble but that Nougat update is referring to Mi5 only.
You have to be careful & read between the lines with the releases.
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I got this info from the miui forum. First thread, Miui 8.2 is based on Android nougat. Second thread, its coming to redmi note 4 mtk (and snap dragon and a list of devices) after Feb 20th. Well, I certainly hope its true and keep our fingers crossed
Chinese smartphone vendor, Xiaomi as promised, will start rolling out the Android Nougat based MIUI 8.2 Stable update for some of their smartphones. The company was testing the update on some phones from December.
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Greetings, MIUI fans!
We're very excited to present you the MIUI 8.2 Global Stable ROM!**From now on, many of you should be able to progressively receive the update over-the-air (OTA) on your phones via the Updater app. If you cannot wait, you can download the ROM packages in this thread below. Let's give credits to our dear developers, beta testers who have devoted so much time, energy to make this gorgeous moment happen. Their contributions shall be honored and respected.
Announcement
Currently supported devices:Mi Max / Mi Max Prime / Mi 4i / Mi 3 / Mi 4 / Mi Note / Redmi 1S / Redmi Note 4G
The following devices will be receiving the update progressively starting from 20th Feb 2017:
Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3 Qualcomm, Redmi Note 3 Special Edition, Redmi Note 4 MTK, Redmi Note 2, Redmi Note Prime, Mi 2/2S, Mi 5, Mi 5s, Mi 5s Plus, Redmi 3/Prime, Redmi 3S/Prime, Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm
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this was also found on the gizbot.com site. With heading title "Android Nougat based MIUI 8.2 Stable ROM to roll out from tomorrow".
Try to Google search the article to confirm then check the official miui forum for the thread on which devices will receive miui 8.2. I got it from the miui forum app. Same as all mtk note 4 users, I'm also hoping to receive Nougat on my redmi note 4 mtk. Let's all keep fingers crossed that it will be released in a few months time as indicated on the miui forum.
Further confirmation from xiaomininja.com - "MIUI 8.2 Global Stable ROM Starts Rolling Out Today" by Estrella Starr.
The 8.2 china stable ROM will be released tomorrow, refer to excerpts below. The china note 4 is mtk, while the 4X is snapdragon. That means the MTK kernel source for the Helio X20 has been made available to Xiaomi.
"....Aside MIUI 8.2 Global Stable ROM, the company will also roll out the MIUI 8.2 China Stable ROM will be released for public tomorrow as well...."
mcwong644 said:
I got this info from the miui forum. First thread, Miui 8.2 is based on Android nougat. Second thread, its coming to redmi note 4 mtk (and snap dragon and a list of devices) after Feb 20th. Well, I certainly hope its true and keep our fingers crossed
Try to Google search the article to confirm then check the official miui forum for the thread on which devices will receive miui 8.2. I got it from the miui forum app. Same as all mtk note 4 users, I'm also hoping to receive Nougat on my redmi note 4 mtk. Let's all keep fingers crossed that it will be released in a few months time as indicated on the miui forum.
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The source on MIUI forum doesn't mention anything that MIUI 8.2 will based on Android Nougat, just some junk website add something to their title to make it like an interesting news for get more traffic lol
http://en.miui.com/thread-508000-1-1.html
https://www.google.com/amp/www.getdroidtips.com/xiaomi-device-to-android-nougat-miui-8-v7-2-16/amp/
Redmi Note 4 MTK
Download – Fastboot
Download – Recovery
How to Manually Update Xiaomi Devices in Android Nougat MIUI 8 v7.2.16
Xiaomi recently released the Android Nougat update for Xiaomi device. This Android Nougat update is based on MIUI 8 v7.2.16 Global Beta ROM. This update is packed with new features like Text editing module in the photo editor, Optimization – Repeated reminders for new events in the Calendar, Fix – The Settings app stopped working after adding a fingerprint. This update will be rolling out via OTA (Over-the-Air). Users who are on previous version of Global Beta ROM can directly download the OTA file, install it and users who are on stable ROM should flash the fastboot ROM via flash tool. As this is Beta Update it may contain bugs. So, if you own Xiaomi device then it’s time to taste sweetest Android Nougat. This update is rolling out via OTA
mcwong644 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.getdroidtips.com/xiaomi-device-to-android-nougat-miui-8-v7-2-16/amp/
Redmi Note 4 MTK
Download – Fastboot
Download – Recovery
How to Manually Update Xiaomi Devices in Android Nougat MIUI 8 v7.2.16
Xiaomi recently released the Android Nougat update for Xiaomi device. This Android Nougat update is based on MIUI 8 v7.2.16 Global Beta ROM. This update is packed with new features like Text editing module in the photo editor, Optimization – Repeated reminders for new events in the Calendar, Fix – The Settings app stopped working after adding a fingerprint. This update will be rolling out via OTA (Over-the-Air). Users who are on previous version of Global Beta ROM can directly download the OTA file, install it and users who are on stable ROM should flash the fastboot ROM via flash tool. As this is Beta Update it may contain bugs. So, if you own Xiaomi device then it’s time to taste sweetest Android Nougat. This update is rolling out via OTA
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It's still not based off nougat for the MTK Redmi note 4.
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
Now we have got nougat for our rn4 official
Global develover nougat rom link
Fastboot rom links http://bigota.d.miui.com/7.2.24/mido_global_images_7.2.24_20170224.0000.00_7.0_global_8062a175a0.tgz enjoy guys
Please press thanks if you like it
#NewUpdate #Nougat
#Snapdragon
Yuvraj Kohli said:
Now we have got nougat for our rn4 official
Global develover nougat rom link
Fastboot rom links http://bigota.d.miui.com/7.2.24/mido_global_images_7.2.24_20170224.0000.00_7.0_global_8062a175a0.tgz enjoy guys
Please press thanks if you like it
#NewUpdate #Nougat
#Snapdragon
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Read the topic title before post link of RN4 Snapdragon lol
longnt2007 said:
Same situation with RMN2/3 MTK version (Helio X10) when they released device with Android 5.0.2 and stuck forever with it, while RMN3 SD version already updated to Android 7.0 (there is screenshots of beta MIUI8 with Android N).
Because Qualcomm always released kernel source code so community developer can help build latest Android version, while Mediatek doesn't release any source code and if manufacturer want to upgrade they device to new Android version, they must pay a huge money for Mediatek (Mediatek keep kernel source code, you must ask them upgrade these kernel source code while Qualcomm do it for free) .
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That's right, I'm Bored With RN4 on MTK Variant, i regret to choose RN4 with MTK
Custom Nouget ROMs
vernee already released the x25 source code
and it's Apollo lite already has nouget 7.1.1 via MadOS if anyone is interested you can try to port it
madkita said:
vernee already released the x25 source code
and it's Apollo lite already has nouget 7.1.1 via MadOS if anyone is interested you can try to port it
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no. because the device tree is still missing. without device tree = no port & no working custom rom
Nikel (Redmi Note 4) will never get a working Nougat ROM. Instead of complaining, you should simply stop buying phones with MTK. They never receive Android upgrades or custom ROMs.

differences Redmi 3, 3 pro, 3s , 3s prime, 3s prime global?

Hi all,
I am very confused with the xiaomi naming
Am I right, that Redmi 3 and Redmi 3 pro are the same inside(difference only with Ram and storage capacity)
Am I right, that Redmi 3s and Redmi 3s prime and Redmi 3s prime global are the same inside (difference only with Ram and storage capacity)?
Am I right that I can use recovery and and any ROMs from these 2 groups? I can't use redmi 3 roms for redmi 3s variant (as there is different hardware)?
Global version is that it has some european LTE frequencies, can I use any rom from 3s version and I will not lose the european frequencies?
Thank you for the answers.
Yes, Redmi 3 and Redmi 3 pro has the same hardware capabilities, only difference is the storage and RAM
The same applies to Redmi 3S and Redmi 3S Prime
You can't use Redmi 3 ROMs or recoveries on a Redmi 3S and vice versa..
I addition to what Kizoky said, the Global ROM has Gapps or Google apps pre-installed whereas the China ROM does not. To differentiate between the different types of official MIUI ROMs, read this... http://en.miui.com/thread-325627-1-1.html
Also, different bands may be enabled depending on where the device is sold. See these two posts...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69349280&postcount=12
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70874789&postcount=14
I have also seen a picture of a box that says 2016037 so there are more models than covered in the above posts.

Rom development?

Is there any ROM development for the note 7?
I would have thought with sources released a little while we would have started to see a few builds start to pop up?
I know im being a bit of a begging chooser here (as i ask being fully aware i cant contribute any expertise to any project.
Only GSIs for now. And i think there will be none custom roms...only a chinese TWRP.
Redmi Note 7 INDIA (lavender) (12MP+2MP) and Redmi Note 7 EEA/CN (lavender) (48MP+5MP) has separate stock ROM, will any rom built for lavender work in these three device?
ahadrox said:
Redmi Note 7 INDIA (lavender) (12MP+2MP) and Redmi Note 7 EEA/CN (lavender) (48MP+5MP) has separate stock ROM, will any rom built for lavender work in these three device?
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can it be possible to forget about the Indian version of the phone, or to make the camera a separate patch?
DP_OSK said:
can it be possible to forget about the Indian version of the phone, or to make the camera a separate patch?
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I think because of the same device codename, a custom ROM for "lavender" will have camera drivers, patches for both Redmi Note 7 Global/China and Redmi Note 7 India.

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