Moto G is an Android smartphone developed and manufactured by Motorola Mobility. It was released on 13 November 2013, and it was initially aimed at emerging markets, although it is also available in developed markets as a low-price option. After six months on the market, the Moto G became Motorola's best-selling smartphone ever, and was the top selling phone in Mexico and Brazil.
Later on, Android 5.1 update was announced for Moto G, but Motorola disappointed the users by not updating the device to Android 5.1.1.
Moto G performed best on Android Kitkat (4.4.4), but users were excited to see Android Lollipop on their device. However, when Android Lollipop arrived on their devices they were not happy because :
i) the update came with performance issues such as lags and battery/memory leaks;
(ii) moreover, Android 5.1.1, which was supposed to be a fix to these issues, was not going to be available for this device.
So many of the users decided to downgrade it to Android 4.4.4. But unfortunately, after successfully flashing Android 4.4.4, the automatic OTA updates, hard bricked most of the devices which were downgraded. The devices looked dead and were only recognized by PC as "qhsusb_bulk".
Almost every user tried hands on the device to recover it, even I did but I was unsuccessful like others as there was no fastboot file available for this device because Motorola didn't release any.
I also consulted XDA forums but I was disappointed. There were methods available on internet which were useless. People started petitions asking Motorola to release the files but still no files were available.
I kept trying hands on the device to recover it and finally after 1 year, I successfully managed to recover my device, somehow, and it is working again, properly. Thanks to another XDA thread.
Here is the link to XDA thread which helped me recover my device : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help/how-to-unbrick-moto-g-falcon-t3394788
If any of the Moto G user wants to recover his/her dead Moto G, he/she must visit the link given above.
I hope it will also work for you guys.
sos XT1032
warrior6124` said:
Moto G is an Android smartphone developed and manufactured by Motorola Mobility. It was released on 13 November 2013, and it was initially aimed at emerging markets, although it is also available in developed markets as a low-price option. After six months on the market, the Moto G became Motorola's best-selling smartphone ever, and was the top selling phone in Mexico and Brazil.
Later on, Android 5.1 update was announced for Moto G, but Motorola disappointed the users by not updating the device to Android 5.1.1.
Moto G performed best on Android Kitkat (4.4.4), but users were excited to see Android Lollipop on their device. However, when Android Lollipop arrived on their devices they were not happy because :
i) the update came with performance issues such as lags and battery/memory leaks;
(ii) moreover, Android 5.1.1, which was supposed to be a fix to these issues, was not going to be available for this device.
So many of the users decided to downgrade it to Android 4.4.4. But unfortunately, after successfully flashing Android 4.4.4, the automatic OTA updates, hard bricked most of the devices which were downgraded. The devices looked dead and were only recognized by PC as "qhsusb_bulk".
Almost every user tried hands on the device to recover it, even I did but I was unsuccessful like others as there was no fastboot file available for this device because Motorola didn't release any.
I also consulted XDA forums but I was disappointed. There were methods available on internet which were useless. People started petitions asking Motorola to release the files but still no files were available.
I kept trying hands on the device to recover it and finally after 1 year, I successfully managed to recover my device, somehow, and it is working again, properly. Thanks to another XDA thread.
Here is the link to XDA thread which helped me recover my device : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help/how-to-unbrick-moto-g-falcon-t3394788
If any of the Moto G user wants to recover his/her dead Moto G, he/she must visit the link given above.
I hope it will also work for you guys.
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I made a bad update of the system, my Xt1032 was left as a brick, but with a tutorial that I followed, I managed to activate it in fasboot mode, but since there it only stays in "failed to initialize partition table" and does not allow me to install anything, is there any way To recover it, for there lei that in the xt1033 could do it with some file that you published, there is something similar for my model beforehand thank you very much (excuse if it is written badly or expressed some phrase, is that I only speak Spanish and I use translator for To write in English
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Simple answer - NO.
When a new software release is made for an OS, all the developers would have done is test it on a very few devices within the developers and then roll it out to testers. And after analyzing the bugs identified from these testers, the developers sit on fixing it and finally come up with a release. Now would this release be bug-less? Absolutely not! Remember, its only been tested amongst a very few number of people and the rolling out happens to thousands residing in different parts of the world. If you think about it, what these updates are gonna deal with is a varied number of users, different carriers, sim make etc etc.
Take for example, for Indian users, the 4.4.2 update has been rolled out for quite a while. Lots of bugs were identified since then and the forum managers have been collecting data from the subscribers for quite a while now (Almost 4 months). Still the fix has not happened. And now 4.4.4 is out and issues persist.
I hvae been using 4.3, 4.4.2, then CM11, Mokee ROM etc etc, and now Im finally back to stock 4.3, coz thats the most stable version. So if you are someone who is interested in trying out new releases, please go ahead, but if you are someone who needs a stable ROM with no signal drop issues, please stick to 4.3.
totally disagree. I have european version Moto G with stock 4.4.2 and everything is working perfeclty. Try to wipe you Moto or flash any other rom.
seems like pebkac not buggy firmware . otherwise every single guy would be facing same problems and that's not happening .
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totally disagree. I have european version Moto G with stock 4.4.2 and everything is working perfeclty. Try to wipe you Moto or flash any other rom.
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Just to clarify, did you receive an update package sometime after the primary update?
4.4.3 works fine on my US GSM moto G. But it might be different for others.
Also, add a warning to the OP that if you're already on 4.4.3+, you can't downgrade anymore. Motoboot from 4.4.3+ doesn't seem to like downgrading anymore, unfortunately.
4.2.2 works great, no signal drops or anything. Waiting for eupean 4.4.4. :good:
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Question is whether downgrading is possible from 4.4.4 ?
I totally agree to ovitz. Updates are supposed to fix issues with older versions of the software. My moto came with 4.4.2 and i never had issues with signal drops. I am from India. Btw it's always better to reset phone after the update.
I agree with you OP on some extent. I also recently downgraded to 4.3 from 4.4.2 just for the lulz, because I was getting "image is too large" error but surprisingly today the flashing was successful. The battery timing has improved, dialer app is cooler than that of the 4.4.2. I'm finding these changes quite interesting because I didn't stay with 4.3 for too long; my Moto G received the KitKat update the moment I powered it on for the first time.
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Simple answer - NO.
When a new software release is made for an OS, all the developers would have done is test it on a very few devices within the developers and then roll it out to testers. And after analyzing the bugs identified from these testers, the developers sit on fixing it and finally come up with a release. Now would this release be bug-less? Absolutely not! Remember, its only been tested amongst a very few number of people and the rolling out happens to thousands residing in different parts of the world. If you think about it, what these updates are gonna deal with is a varied number of users, different carriers, sim make etc etc.
Take for example, for Indian users, the 4.4.2 update has been rolled out for quite a while. Lots of bugs were identified since then and the forum managers have been collecting data from the subscribers for quite a while now (Almost 4 months). Still the fix has not happened. And now 4.4.4 is out and issues persist.
I hvae been using 4.3, 4.4.2, then CM11, Mokee ROM etc etc, and now Im finally back to stock 4.3, coz thats the most stable version. So if you are someone who is interested in trying out new releases, please go ahead, but if you are someone who needs a stable ROM with no signal drop issues, please stick to 4.3.
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While I do agree with you for most of what you said, not everyone has bugs or issues with their phones on 4.4.3/4.4.4 upgrade. I myself has had one bug that came with the phone since 4.3 and it's worst now on 4.4.3 and ironically, I've gotten all the bugs on the 4.4.3 that others were getting on 4.4.2. I ended up putting on CM11 because it was getting to me.
P.S. It's impossible to downgrade from 4.4.3/4.4.4. I would love to downgrade back to 4.3. Never got the chance to see how it behaved on my phone because I updated to 4.4.2 the moment I booted for the first time.
Did I mention the "Sign in to WiFi" error on the 4.4.2? That's annoying as hell.
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Question is whether downgrading is possible from 4.4.4 ?
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It is possible!, download the 4.4 official ROM and do a fastboot and install all the IMG files.
Thats how I did it,
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It is possible!, download the 4.4 official ROM and do a fastboot and install all the IMG files.
Thats how I did it,
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but you can't downgrade the bootloader, so didn't you get any errors?
Not that guy, Don't touch the motoboot and you should be fine
There's no point of updating your phone unless youare receiving it over OTA. Doing it manually is risky. The only thing that you'll get is new AOSP dialer and few security fixes. There's no reward..no improvement in performance as well as in camera quality. People are reporting bugs all over the globe and they desperatly want to switch back to 4.4.2. Few have them are also facing downgrading issues.
And you want to go through all this for just a minor update? Android L could be a good reason as it is worth updating even after bugs. But a minor update is definitely not.
If some one will ask me which is best ROM for my moto g? I would say Stock 4.4.2. I tried all custom ROMs but no one was as smooth as stock 4.4.2.
Consequences be damn'ed.
Simple answer- yeah, well, that's just like your opinion man.
Indian user. Unlocker my bootloader, Converted to GPE while on 4.4.2. The GpE move was made partly because I had jo desire nor the use if a second sim and mostly because I wanted a clean OS. Period.
Got instant OTA update to 4.4.4 to the day it was pushed.
No issues so far, None in fact and it's been over a week or thereabouts(I admit to the likelihood of me being an isolated case)
Lastly, to each his own.
Android is meant to be taken care of AS WELL tinker every single detail or option if you have the cojones for it. Ciao.
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I have just upgrade to 4.4.4 XT1033 (Malaysian), noted the missing 2 empty simcard icone and new rather flat dialer! nothing much has changed and certainly hasn't noticed any issue mentioned herein!
If one were to go by op opinion then they would be using 4.3 for the rest of the devices life ! I wonder what his comment would be once L comes to our device.
I have to disagree the OP as an xt1033 owner since march 2014.
Android 4.4.4 OTA for moto g helps fix various sw issues and increased performance,new baseband to aid the radio issues. Media playback is improved. The device is more of a swiss-tool now.
GPe edition of Moto G running KTU84P.M003 like a dream and eats more battery,too. I wish i could have flashed it earlier.
Semseddin said:
GPe edition of Moto G running KTU84P.M003 like a dream and eats more battery,too. I wish i could have flashed it earlier.
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Just curious, if it eats more battery how come you call it a dream?
It wasn’t that long ago when published about Motorola’s update plan for Android 4.4.4 KitKat. They were already in the process of working on 4.4.3 and then got the notice about the security patch in 4.4.4. Motorola halted the work they were doing until Google was able to send out the Android 4.4.4 update to them. Once they received the 4.4.4 update they began working on it, and now it’s finished. Motorola is in the process of sending out the update to carriers around the world so prepare to see your update soon.
The update even includes some features that are not present in the Android 4.4.4 change log. All Motorola received from Google was a few small fixes and then a security patch for OpenSSL. Motorola added some additional features that we have seen added to other Motorola devices. They ended up updating the phone dialer, they added the ability to pause and resume video recordings and they enabled the ability to download Motorola Alert. The most recent information about this update was it being sent to Vodafone customers in the UK.
If you have a Moto G or Moto E and have received this Android 4.4.4 KitKat update, then please tell us about it in the comments’ section below. Don’t forget to mention your network and how the update process went. If you end up seeing any additional changes that were not mentioned in the change log above, then definitely let us know.
Read more: http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-g-kitkat-update-android-4-4-4-rollout-motorola/#ixzz38Y5B0Nd7
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Let's hope the update starts rolling out on the retail.en.us firmware too.
Moved here, better suited here vice the Development Threads....Thanks.
Is there a download link for the UK 4.4.4 stock firmware anywhere? I'd like to replace my tesco firmware.
Hi all
i was a part of Motorola MFN Program i got the lollipop 5.0.2 update and it was good and after some weeks i got another update that u guys knw ( 22.21.36 Update) succesfully updated that 13mb file after that there is popup in notification centre says no free space so lastly i factory reset the mobile i had 2.21gb available on Internal memory still i got that Notification Low Space available and the phone was very slow can't download anything from playstore, cant' accept a call, Wifi Stopped working Actually phone was dead no use it all happened after .36 update u guys can Check Motorola Mfn Forums Most of the users are affected it, i don't know what was happened , waited for one week no response from Motorola Lastly there was only one way i decided to unlock the bootloader and Root the phone and installed Cynogenmod 12 now Mobile is working Fine but the problem is Motorola gives an offer they will replace with a new mobile for those have problems with latest update i got a mail too and they called me too, now i dont know what to do i have rooted the mobile so Warranty is Void........
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Hi all
i was a part of Motorola MFN Program i got the lollipop 5.0.2 update and it was good and after some weeks i got another update that u guys knw ( 22.21.36 Update) succesfully updated that 13mb file after that there is popup in notification centre says no free space so lastly i factory reset the mobile i had 2.21gb available on Internal memory still i got that Notification Low Space available and the phone was very slow can't download anything from playstore, cant' accept a call, Wifi Stopped working Actually phone was dead no use it all happened after .36 update u guys can Check Motorola Mfn Forums Most of the users are affected it, i don't know what was happened , waited for one week no response from Motorola Lastly there was only one way i decided to unlock the bootloader and Root the phone and installed Cynogenmod 12 now Mobile is working Fine but the problem is Motorola gives an offer they will replace with a new mobile for those have problems with latest update i got a mail too and they called me too, now i dont know what to do i have rooted the mobile so Warranty is Void........
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how u reported them friend? am too having such issues
Since Motorola is having a hard time optimizing LP for Moto E (it's end of march and they are still "testing"), I bet they must be thinking that they did the biggest mistake in history by promising major android upgrade to the Moto E users xD
nilanko said:
Since Motorola is having a hard time optimizing LP for Moto E (it's end of march and they are still "testing"), I bet they must be thinking that they did the biggest mistake in history by promising major android upgrade to the Moto E users xD
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no its not like that...even moto x users waited a long time..maybe motorola will release 5.1 directly..for moto e..as in case of moto x
Update 10/July/2015
Update links for the ota by xda member @itskapil
Direct Link
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download/motorola-att-moto-x-android-5-1-1-ota-update
Google Drive Link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pGrRdP0Cpyc1Z4QkpqRmxMM1U/view
Credits: @itskapil, @Sabissimo
Update 08/July/2015
Here is the ota zip posted by xda member @Sabissimo
https://yadi.sk/d/hWXXWIgFhja8y
You can check the link below on how to sideload it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
Update 08/July/2015
The soak test for 5.1 has started.
Update 07/July/2015
ATT are sending survey invites for Motorola Feedback Network users of Moto X 1st Gen. They will later select some users for Moto X 5.1 soak test.
Update
A xda forum Lieutenant_Dan quoted motorola's D. Schusters google plus update on att moto x 1st gen
From schusters's google plus
Here is an update on the Android 5.1 Lollipop upgrades for Moto X (1st Gen)
- We are ready to enter Verizon labs next week to start their approval process
- We entered AT&T labs last week, waiting for their approval
- We are still in soak testing in India, we are investigating a potential issue and want to make sure we understand it fully before moving forward. Should have more details in a couple days.
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/s...%26cid%3D5%26soc-app%3D115%26soc-platform%3D1
I m also one of those . will keep checking 3-4 times a day for the update .
I don't want to be a pessimist, but I think we are at least a week or two away from carrier branded update, although I hope I'm wrong.
You aren't wrong... I wish u are, especially this year, att is very slow in upgrading their devices.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
i check my phone for update 5 times a day. i am very optimistic about ATT bringing the update. went back to stock 4.4.4 since 3 days and after using its not that bad than cm12.1
rjcrystal199 said:
i check my phone for update 5 times a day. i am very optimistic about ATT bringing the update. went back to stock 4.4.4 since 3 days and after using its not that bad than cm12.1
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I also get back to 4.4.4, let's hope att release the update next week.
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i check my phone for update 5 times a day. i am very optimistic about ATT bringing the update. went back to stock 4.4.4 since 3 days and after using its not that bad than cm12.1
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how did you put cm12 on the at&t model? is it the xt1058?
I was lucky to have 4.4.3 when i bought it unlocked bootloader with sunshine so i could install cm12
*swiftly singing together the background rythm*
just waitin. and reading magazines. you know, in this virtual waiting room;.
Nah i'm good, leave post here so i can know when this come out. For now, staying AICP
sniffle, sniffle
c'mon AT&T, do this.
We have been Waiting For this update so long.. Hope that next week att bring to us this update for god's sake
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Free mobile app
C'mon att,,,,, fingers crossed
I know I know.
I am also aware that when there is an update ready to download, the phone will let me know. This has happened with every Android I hav owned.
Yet I can't help myself. I still check about once a day...
what a god damn cruel joke
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/06/3...-1-for-the-moto-x-2nd-gen-on-att/#more-170120
From schusters's google plus:
Here is an update on the Android 5.1 Lollipop upgrades for Moto X (1st Gen)
- We are ready to enter Verizon labs next week to start their approval process
- We entered AT&T labs last week, waiting for their approval
- We are still in soak testing in India, we are investigating a potential issue and want to make sure we understand it fully before moving forward. Should have more details in a couple days.
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/s...%26cid%3D5%26soc-app%3D115%26soc-platform%3D1
we'll probably see at least a soak (hopefully an open pull one) this week.
found this http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB422438&cv=820&_requestid=1207586
but it refrences the 1st gen along with the 2nd gen, as if someone copied it and then forgot a few bits here and there (build numbers refrencing the victara (2nd gen)
Lieutenant_Dan said:
From schusters's google plus:
Here is an update on the Android 5.1 Lollipop upgrades for Moto X (1st Gen)
- We are ready to enter Verizon labs next week to start their approval process
- We entered AT&T labs last week, waiting for their approval
- We are still in soak testing in India, we are investigating a potential issue and want to make sure we understand it fully before moving forward. Should have more details in a couple days.
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/s...%26cid%3D5%26soc-app%3D115%26soc-platform%3D1
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I also found this http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB422438
the links point to moto x 2014 it seems that they've copied the content there and forgot to change the links. in content they've shown that after installation of update it shows victara instead of ghost thats weird.
i got moto boot services updat from the store
My Moto G5 Plus is telling me that my software is up to date, yet it's still running Android 7.0, but more importantly the security patch level is 1/1/17. I don't know about major OS updates, but there MUST be at least some updates out there that I'm not getting. Can someone link me to somewhere where I can find a .zip files for all OTA updates, so I can just flash the update and then flash Magisk again to retain root? Thanks!
You are probably not receiving OTA updates since you've rooted your phone, right? There was no major updates but there was few security patches this year. Which model exactly you have? That's gonna help in providing you correct links...
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
nlinecomputers said:
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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Sort of... OTA files can only be flashed on a pure stock system, no root, no TWRP, no Xposed, nothing changed in system, no removed packages, etc. If the OTA script even detects that /system was ever mounted R/W it can fail (I don't know if Moto goes that far).
To flash an OTA you must restore your stock ROM completely (/system, /boot, and any other system level partitions), and restore stock recovery, and all versions must match or the OTA script will crap out with an error.
The OTA files are out there, on this forum in various threads... you can find them along with instructions on how to apply them to rooted and stock systems.
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
nlinecomputers said:
Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Oh yeah... Moto's level of doing what the carriers "recommend" or whatever you want to call it, is ridiculous lately.
Good example is Nougat for the Moto X Pure Edition, if you are on Sprint or US Cellular you got it 2 months ago, but Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile users still haven't seen it. Except many users have figured it out, pop in a Boost Mobile SIM (not even activated) and it will grab the update almost immediately, let it apply, then swap your original SIM back in and enjoy some Nougat goodness. However that device never had a specific version for a certain carrier. Still today probably 80% of users of that FLAGSHIP device still haven't gotten an update that we know was completed in June/July, due to "partner approvals" or some such BS.
All these updates still come directly from Moto and their servers, but they are doing what the carriers tell them and only allowing it to certain devices... This has vaguely been admitted to by the mods on the official Lenovo support forums.
Honestly, many smaller brands with a history of poor update frequency get better update support than Moto's these days... My son's Axon 7 Mini already has 7.1.1 with the September update for BlueBourne, he got it the third week of September, and gets on every 3 months like clockwork. My faith in Moto is diminishing quickly, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on my last two (Moto X Pure Edition and Moto G 2015) because they were kind of transitional device during the Google-Lenovo switch over, and although my Moto G5 Plus is supported a little better I believe it is just because it is newer and not because Moto got better.
Chances this will be last Moto device? Let's just say this could be my last Moto device, and I have been a big Motorola fan for many years.
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
Can anyone link me where to find OTA updates for Moto G5 Plus and, if necessary, instructions? I don't see why the instructions would be any different from the OnePlus 5, other than Motorola making it harder on purpose.
FamilyGuy0395 said:
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
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Never said it was true for every phone or manufacturer, but that is the way it is with Moto devices... You cannot flash an OTA with TWRP, the script checks (among other things) the recovery and will fail if it doesn't have the correct signature, same with the modems, bootloader, partition table, and things in /system. Moto OTA updates are VERY picky and will fail at the drop of a hat on a device that is not purely stock.
The only work around, that works in SOME cases with Moto devices, is using FlashFire by Chainfire, but that is hit and miss, depends on what is updated.
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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Do you have a link to this thread? I am curious how the modems, partition table, and bootloader updates are handled since TWRP doesn't have the correct signature to write to these partitions. I can see where it could maybe update the boot and system partitions if they were extracted from the ROM, even if they are differential deltas, but my guess is that a "TWRP flashable" OTA is mearly an extract of a blank device's boot and system partition or just he changes, and packed into an OpenRecovery script, and not the "real" OTA file.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
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Do NOT attempt to apply standard OTAs over these builds; they will fail.
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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The TWRP flashable stock builds DO upgrade the modem.
As stated in the OP, the only partitions NOT upgraded are gpt and bootloader.
I didn't omit these partitions because they can't be written; I omitted them to prevent potential issues for people who really don't know what they're doing.
Disabling dm-verity is required due to some partitions unavoidably losing their oem signatures during the conversion process.
Disabling force encryption is practically required, as TWRP seems buggy with it enabled.
The intended purpose of these builds is to provide a dead simple (and safe) way for users to return to stock.
I have linked useful tools at the bottom of the OP for those interested in making their own modifications to these stock builds.
Hope this helps :good:
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Hope this helps :good:
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It does actually, thank you... Obviously I have a lot to learn about the differences between current devices and older Moto devices I am used to working.