So does this sound at all right. I did a swap with my nexus one, because of dust under the screen. this was back on January 13th. they sent me a new phone a took 530 dollars out of my account, after about 10 days they called me and said they received the other phone in good condition and that they would be putting the money back. after about 2 weeks still no money. On February 4th, I got:
Dear Antonio Grippi,
We received your package. We will be reviewing the condition of the items received and will contact you if we have any further questions. You can check the status by visiting our service site.
HTC ticket #: ************673
S/N: *************
Sincerely,
HTC
Please feel free to visit our help site for further assistance.
Still no money as of today. I called HTC AGAIN, and they said they were escalating my claim to see what was going on. Does this sound at all good. what the hell can I do if they can't find my money. I could have a second one of these for my wife, or something for 530 bucks. Anyone else taking a really long time to get their money?
P.S. the status says this:
Ticket Info
Status: We have completed your case. If you can help us improve our service, or would like to comment, please contact HTC customer service representatives.
Service Type: Repair
Service Model: C4-On site exchange
Failure Description: Dust under screen. Looking to repair.
That doesn't sound promising either, for some reason.
People seem to forget that merchants have a considerable amount of time to batch their transactions, there are time limits though. The general timeframe any business will tell you would be "up to 30 days, you will see your refund on your next statement" so calm down.
If you're going to bust a vein over it, call your bank card issuer, and initiate a "chargeback" for your situation, which then with that amount will take investigation, with a possible initial credit given until investigation is complete.
Breath. Relax. There are things that can be done.
I understand there is a process. My only concern is that they told me, when they called me, I would see the money in about 2 weeks. that was about 3 weeks ago. I think it's fair to ask where my money is if it isn't returned when they say it should be. I was just asking if anyone else had a similar situation, and if it sounded normal. I'm not busting a vein. just checking with people who might be in the same boat to get a time frame. maybe to help people who are thinking of doing an exchange themselves, so that they can better know, if they can afford to be out 530 dollars for that amount of time.
I had the same problem, the 14 days had passed and I made various calls to HTC. then I emailed Google about it and they said they would be checking why this was and within a day lot two of mailing Google, I received the money back and got a email confirmation from Google as well.... other than that the reps at HTC all said, we are sorry and don't know why its taking so long, your claim has been escalated. blah blah blah blah.
Stay on them until it's escalated to someone who can answer your request & refund your money!
I called htc to return my phone. They failed 3 times in a row at sending me a shipping label. They also say it is escalated and are waiving the restocking fee. It is scary how long they are taking, it has been over 2 weeks since i spoke to them last.
Hi all. So I bought my Nexus One near the end of June, but shortly after that, I decided to return the phone to get a refund as it's defective. I called them and they sent me a shipping label, but at that time I was not in town so I wasn't able to ship the phone back with the first shipping label. Then I called them, they sent me another one and this time I sent it back( bought another used one afterward).
It has been more than 1 month since I sent my phone back to HTC. But I still haven't received any refund, nor have they contacted me. So I've been calling them for more than 2 weeks, inquiring this issue and it has been escalated 3 times already to their escalation department. The representatives told me they were still waiting for the respond from them. But so far I still haven't got any respond from them after the 2 weeks.
Since it has been too long to a ridiculous level, I'm thinking to contact my bank to initiate a chargeback. Any suggestions, guys?
Charge back isn't a bad idea. My experience with the escalation department is that they are slow and always require at least 2 additional calls.
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Hi all. So I bought my Nexus One near the end of June, but shortly after that, I decided to return the phone to get a refund as it's defective. I called them and they sent me a shipping label, but at that time I was not in town so I wasn't able to ship the phone back with the first shipping label. Then I called them, they sent me another one and this time I sent it back( bought another used one afterward).
It has been more than 1 month since I sent my phone back to HTC. But I still haven't received any refund, nor have they contacted me. So I've been calling them for more than 2 weeks, inquiring this issue and it has been escalated 3 times already to their escalation department. The representatives told me they were still waiting for the respond from them. But so far I still haven't got any respond from them after the 2 weeks.
Since it has been too long to a ridiculous level, I'm thinking to contact my bank to initiate a chargeback. Any suggestions, guys?
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HTC's customer service is nice, but their warehouse is horrible.
Next time you call them, ask to speak to a supervisor directly. Make sure you let him/her contact you frequently about your issue, and make sure you write down his/her name for future reference.
Yeah, I have been contacting them for more than 2 weeks. Actually it's the 3rd time they report to the escalation center. I'm very unhappy with their lousy effeciency. Reps are nice and kind, but there's nothing they can do. And they don't have a number or email so that I can't contact the repair/refund/warehouse directly.
So far since I returned my phone in mid July, I still haven't got my $600 back.
Keeps calling, keeps escalating, keep bugging them if you can wait. If you can't wait, need the money or have just had enough initiate a chargeback and forget about it.
Ugh, good luck. As a CSR with a completely different company that works with electronics, it always seems as warehouses are as slow as molasses. I agree with kam187. Do what you need to do man.
Chargeback. This is why it exists.
Okay. I will call them tomorrow for the last time. If they still can't get things right. I will start the chargeback process. I've never done it before, so hopefully it will go smoothly.
TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Full story:
I'm a huge fan of Motorola phones. My first cell phone after High School was an old school Razr, and outside of a brief dalliance with a BlackBerry Storm (my first smartphone), every other phone I've had was made by Motorola. I got a Droid X soon after release in 2010, loved it, and replaced it 2.5 years later when it was showing it's age by getting a Razr Maxx HD on release day. Totally happy with the Razr Maxx HD... until it accidentally fell out of my pocket onto a rock in a parking lot and cracked the screen. Phone was totally functional still, including all portions of the touchscreen, but it had spiderweb cracks on it so I figured I'd get it fixed.
I was excited to see Motorola offers repair services for things not covered by the warranty. motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91148/p/30%2C6720%2C8579/kw/ said it would only be $100 and they can do the lens replacement in (at MOST) 5 business days. It's such a routine repair that they had a separate price set up explicitly for it. So on Friday 04/19, I open a case, give them my credit card details, get an RMA number, and ship it via USPS the same day. I pay a few dollars extra to guarantee it gets there by Monday (4/21) morning (and to get tracking), figuring it should be repaired by that Friday (04/26) and I'd have it soon after that. Meanwhile, I reactive the almost 3 year old Droid X.
Then the problems start.
Monday, 04/22, USPS tracking confirms that the phone is received at 9:50am. I get an email from Motorola reminding me to send it in at 2:50pm, 5 hrs later. I figured it hadn't been processed yet. Tuesday (04/23) afternoon, I manage to check the status of my repair (with difficulty) at their website, and it shows it hasn't been received yet. Their website ( globalrepairtools.motorola.com/serviceandrepair/device/index/en-us/trackrepair/ ) has a LOT of problems, working extremely inconsistently, hanging in multiple browsers and sometimes even putting me through and showing me the status of a repair COMPLETELY unrelated to mine (even though I made sure to copy/paste my own RMA number). Wednesday (04/24), it still showed that my phone hadn't been received, so I called Motorola support (for the first time). After checked the tracking details, the representative confirmed it had been received, but had not yet been logged into the system, and said that the original 5 business day timeline was still likely going to happen. Friday (04/26), still no progress.
Monday 04/29, I call back, they note that according to their system the phone was received on 04/27, five days after it had been delivered, and that the 5 business day cycle actually only starts after it's logged into their system. I was assured that because they had records of talking to me on 04/23 and the phone had already been received then, they'd expedite the repair and I'd hear from them soon after with a tracking number for the shipment. Fast forward a couple of days with the same story (promise of an expedited shipment), on 05/03 I call back again and get told that, Lo and Behold, they were having some further "technical difficulties" at their repair facility but the phone should 100% be done by 05/08 (13 business days and 17 calendars days after it was initially received by Motorola), and I'd get expedited shipping from there. They said they'd send me a bluetooth headset for my trouble (something I don't particularly need). I emailed in a complaint to Motorola at this point, and whoever responded to the email simply said "I could see here that you already spoke with one of our agents from our Repair Team. They assured you that you will get your phone by May 08. We'll just have to take their word for it. I'm sure that they will expedite the repair from here. Our system is doing some updates that is why this happened."
Fine. 05/08 rolls around and I still haven't gotten any details... So I call back, pretty early that morning. They tell me (AGAIN!) that they had some problems at the repair facility and now have no ETA whatsoever when my phone might be done (they don't have any idea what's going on with it. My personal theory is they lost it), but they can send me a replacement Razr Maxx HD. I was OK with that option, but the rep says it will take 3-5 business days until I have the device, though he said it was more likely to be 3 than 5. That puts us at 05/15, right around when I had my family coming in for some big personal events, and I didn't want to be dealing with this then (and I wanted a phone with a functioning camera, while the one on my Droid X was broken).
05/10, I get an email that the order for my replacement Maxx HD was being processed. There was no tracking information in that email, though it did say there would be tracking information forthcoming. Now, for the bluetooth headset they mailed me the previous week, I got the email with the tracking # two days after the headset arrived, so I figured this would be a similar story so I should call in for a tracking # (so I could be home to meet the device when it arrived). Monday 05/13, call and there's no details. Still haven't received any email by Tuesday morning, 05/14 (4-5 business days after my conversation early on 05/08, depending on how you count it), so I call again to see if I could get a tracking number, and actually get a representative who says the phone is in a box at the warehouse ready to be picked up by FedEx. They say a tracking number would only be generated once it was picked up (which sounded strange to me). I call again near the end of business on Tuesday and get much the same story, where a second representative gives me the same story about it being in a box.
05/15 (5-6 business days after the replacement was ordered, 18 business days after Motorola received my original phone for repairs). The representative I get this time says there was some kind of mistake the previous day because of technical difficulties at the distribution warehouse and my order was in a status called "booking", but should be shipped within the next few days. I will admit I got angry at this point, but the agent assured me he had contacted the warehouse and it would only be a day or two till they got through the back orders. Note that at this point, they set some kind of flag so every time I call I start out at level 2 support. Which would be fine, except level 2 support has a minimum of a 35 minute hold time throughout the day, so I'd already practically memorized the entirety of Motorola's hold messages. The representative promises to call me back that day no matter what he hears from the warehouse people to give me an update. No call was ever received.
05/16 (25 calendar days after Motorola received my phone): I call again, get told that the phone was through "booking", was actually "picked", and was in a box and ready to be shipped that day. I call in between spending time with my family (who I see rarely) and different events I have to go to. I ask whether they actually talked to someone at the warehouse and got a confirmation that it would be shipped. That representative says she doesn't have any contact information for the distributor against an email address (say what?) but she'd be happy to send them (yet another!) email. She offers to escalate me to their "executive support", but it's already 4pm so they've gone home. I get a promise I'll get called back the next day.
05/17 AM: I call again, get told that it was still "picked", but would DEFINITELY ship that day. I ask if anyone has heard from the warehouse, the answer is no. I inquire as to possible Saturday delivery because it's getting dangerously close to when I'm actually leaving the state/country on a trip that I will need a phone for (because I've paid for a micro-SD card that I'll use abroad and it's my only planned way to keep in touch with my responsibilities back home), and get told by the representative it's probably not possible but I'll definitely get a call back later that day. I have some events planned that evening where I can't touch my phone, so he says he'll leave a VM or an email with details of any updates.
05/17 PM: I get a call from Motorola somewhere around 6pm and they leave a voice mail saying they saw I talked to someone that day already so they don't have anything to add. (say what?) Then I get an email from Motorola that has one word in the subject (HOTDELAY), and it basically says "please call us" and a different number than the one I'd been calling. So I call that number as soon as I'm able, get through to a supervisor for the repair team. Oh my, apparently the distributers warehouse was having further technical difficulties! Amazingly, that phone that I had been assured four (or was it five?) separate times would be shipping "that day" all week, wasn't actually in stock! They won't be able to ship me a phone until late June at the earliest. Needless to say, I flip out, saying that's completely unacceptable. So the supervisor says she'll call corporate and get back to me on Monday (05/20), since they'd already gone home and wouldn't be in on the weekend. She promises she'd call me by 1pm on Monday.
05/20 early PM: Wow. Supervisor actually manages to call me back around 1230pm and gives me the offer that Motorola will give me a Droid 2 as a loaner phone until they get the Razr Maxx HD back in stock. That's right. Not a Droid 4. Or a Droid 3. Or a Droid 2 Global. But the phone that is FOUR MODELS out of date and as old as my Droid X. Needless to say, I tell her that that is not an acceptable option, and the only thing that I'd accept at this point is for Motorola to reimburse me in full for the cost of a phone. She says she'd look into it.
05/20 later PM: I get a call back from the supervisor. Corporate has agreed to reimburse me for a phone. Hallelujah! I ask a few questions. It goes like this: "Will they reimburse me for the full value of the phone?" "Yes." "Will I be reimbursed all taxes and fees?" "Yes, of course, we will reimburse you all taxes". I should have gotten details of all this in writing, but I didn't think of it. I almost cry from joy to finally get this resolved. I go to Best Buy (because they don't have a charge to return phones and at this point, I'm skeptical until the check is sent) buy a phone for full price (because I obviously don't have an upgrade available for myself yet), fax them the receipt with my case number, name, and address written on it, and move on my merry way. I figure I'll call them later the next day to make sure the fax was received and the reimbursement is being processed. I was so excited because I was leaving for my multi state/country traveling on 05/22, and I was relieved to get this huge monkey off my back.
05/21 (the 1 month "anniversary" of Motorola receiving my phone): I get a phone call back from supervisor lady. She is incredulous that I somehow thought they'd reimburse me for a brand new full priced device. Apparently she meant they'd only reimburse me for the purchase price of the original device, so they want my receipt back from October and will only reimburse me for $250 (and for none of the VZW subsidy that I got by signing a new 2 year contract). I can only respond that I never agreed to such an absurd deal and that there is absolutely no way I'd accept 1/3 of the value of the phone that I sent in to be repaired as reimbursement. She says that's the maximum they'd consider reimbursing me, and that me buying a replacement phone myself was my own problem and that I should return it. I request to speak to her supervisor and eventually get forwarded to their corporate consumer advocacy office. Talk to someone from consumer advocacy who says they'd look in to see what they could do for me and we'd talk again later that afternoon.
05/21 PM: Individual from consumer advocacy calls me back. Says there is no way anyone would ever agree to reimburse me the full value of a replacement device, just the subsidized price I paid once. He acknowledges that the device is valued at much higher than that and that I only got that price through a subsidy I (for all intents and purposes) pay back through the contract I'm still liable for, but he says that is irrelevant for their purposes. I tried to escalate to an even higher level of support and get this resolved, but he refused, saying there is no one higher and that I had to take what he offered or leave it. When inquiring about another option (compared to getting reimbursed a fraction of the cost of the device), he changed the story regarding their stock of phones once again and says more will be in stock on 05/22. He also personally guaranteed that mine would be the first one out the door from that shipment. When I said I didn't believe him, he said that given my case history he wouldn't believe himself either, but I had no other choices. He said they'd ship it to where I would be on 05/22-05/23. After numerous complaints from me about the absolutely abhorrent service so far, he (begrudgingly) attempts to offer me another bluetooth headset. After my frank refusal of that, he finally offers to ship me a $100 google play card. All this time, he just patronizes me with "I understand your frustration", and no real apology on behalf of Motorola.
05/22: I get a call back from consumer advocacy. It turns out that no, in fact, there was no stock that came in that day. They offer to send me a Razr M until they can get more HD MAXXs sometime later the following month. I refused, and say (again) that the only option I'll accept at this point was reimbursement for a replacement device, because it's been a month and I'm leaving the country for a few weeks and don't want to deal with this. He says it's not possible. I ask who could make it possible and get told this is a policy of their finance department. He refuses to let me speak to the finance department, but puts me on hold and (lo and behold!) he says that he spoke with them and got approval to send me a check to reimburse me for the replacement. But because they're paying the full amount, I will not get a $100 google play card for my trouble or any other reimbursement. I should be thankful that they deign to pay me back for the device I sent them (and they lost somewhere). I make sure to get this offer sent to me in writing later that day.
05/30: They mail the check. Only took a week. I was amazed. I got it a few days later.
Lessons learned: NEVER utilize Motorola for any kind of repair services. A repair that I could have easily done in 30 seconds (if I could have reasonably gotten ahold of the part without having it shipped from Hong Kong over a period of 2+ weeks) was not only never completed, but ballooned into a whole saga.
I've considered filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, but I don't think they could do anything. I don't know what else I can do, so I'm also spreading the story to all the forums I know so people can be warned to not use their repair services. Would have done it earlier but I had the international travel and then a whole bunch of work to do when I got back.
Legal action for my time (I estimate I spent >20 hrs on hold/talking to Motorola) wouldn't be worth it, given that any attorney would charge more per hour than Motorola would ever offer me. To be honest, I'd have been satisfied if they had ever offered me a sincere apology, an honest update on the situation, or maybe even that (paltry) $100 that they had considered offering me but in the end took the offer back. I was over a month without a normally functioning smartphone.Instead, all I got was patronization, dishonesty that I'd get a phone back "soon", and a bluetooth headset.
If any of you are stuck down the motorola black hole, the biggest advice I can give is to call the consumer advocacy office. Insist you be transfered up there if you have to. They are also less than honest and less than useful, but they seemed to at least be able to contact the people that could do something. If they tell you something is not possible, don't trust them. Insist to find out who can make it possible, because it probably is. I'd post the number myself, but I don't know how much I'm allowed to.
Yup, this is exactly why I try to repair stuff myself instead of sending it in.
But thanks for sharing.
That's why I get the best buy warranty. 10 bucks a month but this is my 3rd phone. Each one has been free and taken no longer then a week.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
That's why I take care of my electronics.
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Raryn said:
TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Really sorry to hear it. We (Motorola Support) are just recovering from a rough patch in repair, and looks like you had one of the worst experiences. It's not typical of our performance and we are working hard to get 100 percent back to our quoted turnaround time.
Again, sorry you had such a crummy experience.
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I was going to say I've read elsewhere of delayed repair times.
I am utterly shocked and devastated they were only willing to reimburse you for the subsidised amount! Who says you have an upgrade or access to one?!!
I am even scared to write about screen issues. My insurance company has a hard enough time keeping my model in stock and I can't afford to have $700+ temporarily out of commission.
Legal action... Maybe small claims court?
I would always remember never count on anyone for anything. You're bound to be let down and stressed. I can tell by the girth of your story you mean what you say.
It looks like Motorola read this. I'm shocked they didn't send you a free accessory or something to help compensate you.
I love this phone and its battery life and laugh every time my friends are tethered to an outlet. But all in all its just a cell phone and luckily you were even offered a loaner to begin with.
Fortunately this is not a story we hear every day and hopefully some xda members will chime in with their positive experiences.
Motorola please port webtop to this device!
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
That is by far the worst experience I have heard of so far, and by all means if the customer has paid for the device and can prove so, should be entitled to a full refund or at least give the original phone back so the person can find other less stressful means of repair. That is simply unacceptable and Motorola should be held fully accountable if they are going to brand their name on anything. This story makes me upset even gees.
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Who said you were guaranteed to get it back in 5 days? Their website says 7-10 days after receiving it.
My experience with Moto service was OK. Not great. Just OK. I did get it back quick, 5 business days in fact. Their website and tracking are a pathetic joke for sure.
Like you, USPS indicated that my phone had been delivered but their system didnt show it. I contacted them and they gave me the same spill about the system having problems. I can accept that software systems can have problems sometimes so I wasn't to upset. I figured id give it a few days.
A few days passed and my phone still showed it hadn't been received. I called them and made sure (in a very respectful way) that i was very unhappy that they were having problems. They escalated my case and i talked to a new person. The new person gave me about the same explanation as the first person but assured me they would have it to me a max of 10 days from receiving it. Frustrated I accepted their excuse.
The next day it sowed as received in their system and that they were repairing it.
Two days later it showed as shipped. Funny thing was the "Shipped", emphasis on the "-ED", was for that day at like 1:00 pm. I got the notification that it had "shipped" like at 8:00 am. In addition to the fake ship date there was "NO TRACKING". I was thinking that those as shats marked it as shipped to appease me.
I was about ready to call them again but gave them a chance to make good. Then the next day it showed up all nice and shiny.
They did a good job repairing it. They replaced the whole frame, not just the glass. I know because there was a noticeable scuff on the top right corner that is no longer there.
This was actually for my sisters phone. She borrowed mine because here work requires here to have a phone. Anyway, she might not get it back. :cyclops: Ive quite enjoyed it the last few days.
That's horrible!
Good thing I saw this, I'll keep your experience in mind for if I ever need to get anything on my phone repaired. I can't believe you went through that much trouble. I quite am disappointed with Motorola at this moment.
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I RMA'd my D800 for having a bad screen to US support in TX. The original issue is described in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/help-unresponsive-band-screen-d800-t3105309
They sent me an email with their repair report saying there was a charge of $75-190 because manufacture date indicates out of warranty. I replied to that email with my proof of purchase showing I bought it four months ago.
I never heard back. I called them. They did not have that email with my POP. They were confused that I was calling from my work number. Well, they had my cell phone, how else am I going to call them? They send me a link to upload my POP. It doesn't take .doc format. I convert my POP to a .jpg and attach it. I get no email reply.
I call again. Support says they got my POP, repair will be covered under warranty, and they will send it when done. I ask why my status on the repair had not been be updated. She said it takes a day sometimes to update it. OK, so I think I am good. I wait another two days, finally status gets updated from 'Awaiting Payment' or something to 'RA closed, Unit shipped back to customer'. I am nervous because that could mean they thought I never replied to them and they are shipping back without repairing. Or, it could mean they repaired it and are shipping it back. I hoped for the latter.
I got one FedEx notice that the box had shipped. I get an email a day later from LG that no repair was done because it is out of warranty and the customer did not want to pay.
So they made so many mistakes and I have been without a phone for a week now. My only concern was that since I bought i on eBay it might be an issue. But the second tech said my POP was accepted and the repair would be done under warranty on the phone.
So much miscommunication there. It seemed the phone tech support would just tell you what you wanted to hear even though they do not really know what is going on.
It is too late now but I am going to call them tomorrow and talk to a manager if I have to. I will get angry with them if I have to. I will have to now refuse the shipment, have it shipped back to them, and have them do the repair. They could give me an issue if they don't think the eBay retailer is authorized, even though it was a new phone.
What a pain.
Just went through an infuriating call with LG where they told me the POP is invalid which is why they shipped my phone back unrepairable. I asked to speak to a supervisor numerous times and they would not connect me. They spent literally 10 minutes of repeating the same thing over and over. She did everything in her power not to connect me to a supervisor and eventually hung up on me.
I wanted to explain to the supervisor that the last support person I spoke to told me the phone was under warranty and would be repaired for free. Then they ship the phone back not repaired and without warning me.
So I called back again after the 10 minute call and after trying to file a BBB complaint. The new support person I get is more helpful, tells me I can reopen another support ticket and that the problem probably was because the POP I provided did not have the IMIE, model and date of purchase clearly written on it. It did have all those things except the IMIE but I guess it wasn't enough for them.
So now I have to open another ticket, ship it back again, and hope they accept my POP. Sigh.
The LG repair center and call center handling the repairs are completely separate.
Buyer beware.
So they ship it back to me unrepaired with a new big scratch on the back that was not there when I sent it and a phone that does not turn on at all now.
I already filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.