I have a brand new AT&T Tab and need assistance. I am able to install non-marketplace apps using Sideload Wonder Machine however I have an interesting problem. I have an app (Lotus Notes Installer) that itself downloads another app and tries to install it but I get the dreaded "For security, your phone is set to block installation of applications not obtained from Android Market" message.
I have installed and run z4root and did a temporary root and also installed Superuser and Busybox and I still get the block message.
I am an Android newbie and don't know exactly how to proceed.
Thanks,
Richard
Hey Richard,
I had the same type of problem you did with my AT&T SGT. I also used the Sideload Wonder Machine. Here is link for my situation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914697
Lotus Note Installer app downloading and installing another app? I have not hit that kind of hurdle. Can you get your hands on the apk that Lotus Note Installer is trying to download and install? Maybe you can istall that through sideload wonder machine?
w4rmk said:
I have a brand new AT&T Tab and need assistance. I am able to install non-marketplace apps using Sideload Wonder Machine however I have an interesting problem. I have an app (Lotus Notes Installer) that itself downloads another app and tries to install it but I get the dreaded "For security, your phone is set to block installation of applications not obtained from Android Market" message.
I have installed and run z4root and did a temporary root and also installed Superuser and Busybox and I still get the block message.
I am an Android newbie and don't know exactly how to proceed.
Thanks,
Richard
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This may be a stupid question, but have you set your Tab to allow installing of non-market apps? It's in Settings - Applications - check 'Unknown sources'
I do not see an option in my settings for "allow unknown sources", here's what I have:
Settings>Application
Manage Applications
- this doesn't appear to have any options for unknown sources settings
Running Services
- this is only for stopping running services
Development
- only options here are USB debugging, stay awake, allow mock locations
Am I missing something? or did AT&T remove the option from recently shipping tabs? (got mine yesterday)
I was able to sideload the Notes Installer, but once on the Tab, that application connects to the corporate server and attemtps to install another application on the Tab and that is where I get stuck.
Use SuperOneClick. This tool not only allow rooting but has option for allowing install of non-market apps. Simply select that option and it will update your systems settings to allow installs from other than market - sd card, web, etc. I am also using AT&T tab and this worked for me. Note it does not add the menu option of "allow apps from unknown sources" but trust me it works.
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I installed the new firmware that allows me to make phone calls using the great instructions provided in theis forum and that resolved my issue and now i can install the Lotus Notes app with no problem. I am really liking the new O/S, it seems a little snappier than the the AT&T one.
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Am I missing something? or did AT&T remove the option from recently shipping tabs? (got mine yesterday)
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You missed nothing - this is just another retarded AT&T carrier customization that they do on all their Android phones (AFAIK!).
Regards,
Dave
Yup, AT&T has removed the "install non-market apps" menu option from their retail Tabs. Very sad that they do that to their customers. I will say the I like their approach to selling the Tab, you pay the retail price and their is no contract to worry about and if you want data you pay on a month-to-month basis, exactly like they do with the Apple iPad. I cannot image getting a subsidized Tab from T-Mobile and getting stuck with a 2 year contract. In this market nobody keeps a phone or tablet for 2 years, it would be a dinosaur by then.
About a month ago, I was having a problem with my Nexus 7 wanting to download/install a system update. I found a method online where I simply renamed /System/Etc/Security/otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak. This worked and all was good for a few weeks.
Now, despite still having the renamed file, I am getting notifications for a system update again. I googled the problem and it appears that Google Play Services is now including the update service which is re-enabled each time the app updates.
Is there a new and improved solution to keep the update from downloading/notifying/installing? I have re-purposed the tablet for a child and rooted the stock 4.4.2 software in order to avoid ads which are not always kid-friendly and also to allow disabling Google apps that I don't want my child to have access to. I could take the update, but that would require undoing all the mods, updating, re-rooting and re-applying changes. I would rather not invest the time for a child's device that is working smoothly otherwise.
Trying something I found on another site. We'll see how it goes:
Install "System application manager" from the Play store (http://bit.ly/1mf6etg)
Install "Disable Service" from Play Store (http://bit.ly/1mf6XKL)
Download "Google Play Services 4.3.25" which will be side-loaded in a future step (http://bit.ly/1mf2WpT)
Go to Settings>Apps>All and find Google Play Services. Wipe cache and data. Uninstall any updates (I had to disable Android Device Manager first)
Install the version of Google Play Services that you downloaded in step 3
Run "System application manger". Tap "Filter" near the top until is shows ">Updated<". You should see Google Play Services in the list. Tap on it, select Manage, then select Convert and move to System Apps
Reboot phone when conversion is done
Open "Disable Service" and go to System Apps section
Find Google Services Framework and tap it. Uncheck "SystemUpdateService" (may already be unchecked)
Find Google Play Services and tap it. Uncheck "SystemUpdateService"
Reboot device again and hopefully be done with OTA nagging
Since root has been obtained and an alternative launcher can be installed, as has been mentioned there is really no need to stay on 5.0.0 anymore. I would recommend updating to 5.0.1. However, this procedure can still be applied to 5.0.1 and hopefully it'll prevent any future updates. (As of writing it 5.0.1 is the latest).
The steps are basically as follows:
Enable ADB by going to Settings> Device Options. Keep tapping on the Serial Number field until the Developer options field appears.
Under Developer options Enable ADB
Hook the Fire up to your computer and do the following commands:
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.otaverifier
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
I don't know which of three is the magic one, But you can not longer go to device options > system update. It also never appears to pull down the update in the background.
Rivethread23 - good work and many thanks for this
I know that you have the original Fire 7 with no system update but I wanted to see if any of your commands will work on 5.01. My device is on 5.01 has been in aeroplane mode since purchase, I have been using OTG Ethernet for connectivity and I have not signed into Amazon. Google Play is installed - basically a standalone device on 5.01 with no association with Amazon.
After running the commands and the ADB shell gave a [True State] after each command. Rebooted the device:
System Updates now gives the following error message: [The requested action is not permitted. Check Parental controls settings and try again]. As my device is not associated with Amazon parental controls have not been configured - so I browsed to a few proxy sites and such to confirm no filtering on web browsing etc
I've tried various launchers from Play store and every time the default Fire Launcher kicks back in again.
SD Card issue is still there.
When you tried the System Update button did you get the same error message as me? If so, I wonder if the Adb Shell command to disable OTA works on 5.01 as well?
Update 1: [adb shell pm hide com.amazon.firelauncher] disables the default Amazon launcher. I picked another launcher at random from Google Play. Halo installed and it worked with the default launcher hidden, however using the minimise middle button on the device forces the Parental Control Popup to appear.
So it is possible to hide the default launcher on 5.01 using ADB but it is causing issues. We need a better work around.
Unfortunately this only blocks the update from occurring. I ran into another issue on the 5.0.0 tablet in that I can't get Google play store working. It just says cannot connect. So I don't know if one of the above things broke it. It was getting late so I went to bed. I'll keep plugging at it and see what I can do.
I might finally take both of mine out of the box today, can more people confirm this is working? @Rivethread23, did you get the play store sorted out?
Couldn't wait, dove in. On an out-of-box Fire, running 5.0.0, these do in-fact keep the OTA updates from firing. I have been online, installing apps and customizing the tablet for over an hour with many reboots, no prompts or attempts of an update.
With this, and ads disabled, and the play store turned on we have a usable tablet!
F-Droid works as well, just sideload their APK to get access to lots of software:
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.fdroid.fdroid_96150.apk
Still stuck on Play Store in 5.0.0 *not working* for now.....same problem as OP
I can confirm that the Google Play Services, Login Services, and Framework are (at least partly) working, even though the Play Store is not. I sideloaded Gmail, and it automatically had my info, and downloaded my email.
Wait, I'm confused. In 1 post you say play store is on and working, then you're saying it's not...
Aside from the play store, it sounds like everything else is working fine! Is that correct. I'm asking because I'm thinking about buying a 2nd one of these, only if I can have it working 100% the way I have it now with my tablet, just with the ability to use a different launcher.
With the original 5.0.0 firmware, if you prevented the OTA update to 5.0.1:
+Can change launcher
+Can write to SD from apps
-Can't get Play Store to work (so far, but can manually side-load GApps (Gmail, Hangouts, etc))
In the other thread, people that have gone to 5.0.1:
-Locked to amazon Launcher when using HOME button
-Manual SD writing is disabled
+Google Play Store can be installed and 90% of the GApps work
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The key to take away is that if you get another one, and you do the fix in this thread to prevent OTA updates, you can simply wait til everyone gets things fixed and figured out. You can safely use it and not worry about getting pushed to a firmware that might be even more locked down.
On the other hand, if you're not worried about OTA updates breaking stuff, and want a working store, go to 5.0.1 and follow SD_Shadow's instructions in his thread on that subject.
Hopefully root comes soon and we can fix all these problems properly, but until then it's kinda hit and miss depending on what version you got.
Hope that helps.
Thanks Tufkal was going to post something along those lines but you beat me to it.
Essentially you can prevent updates from further locking down the tablet. Who knows what future updates bring? I'll wait and update as thing warrant.
I have two one on 5.0.0 and another on 5.0.1. While I like being able to use the launcher of my choosing on 5.0.0, the working google store and updated amazon store and apps have me using the 5.0.1 one. I am keeping the other on 5.0.0 until development starts then I'll try my hand at making a ROM.
Your device that is on 5.0.0 Firmware have you signed into Amazon and associated your device? Or is it standalone like mine?
Was on Amazon for a day. Factory reset it and am using it sans Amazon. Mostly using the 5.0.1 one myself.
Yep same here. 5.01 with no amazon sign in.
I've been playing around with the launcher again. Tried changing the hardcoded buttons and also with ADB Shell am force-stop pm disable on com.amazon.firelauncher to stop dependent services, ie hard buttons. All to no avail.
root definitely needed for this
I figured out a way to access some hidden functions within the OS last night. Seeing where this leads after work today Apparently I can cast the screen and access the home function disabled in 5.0.1. Problem is the home function doesn't override the hard coding.
Most interesting is something called Prod and Devo Switch that give "Access Denied" when I try to activate it. Hmmmm........
Here's what I have discovered. It's easier done on 5.0.0 but can be done on 5.0.1. You'll need another launcher like Nova installed. Installed "Anycut" from the google store. It'll let you put a shortcut on the desktop for any "activity". There are alot of items there not normally accessible. You can cast to a Chromcast for example (it works). The reason you need another launcher is the Amazon launcher doesn't support shortcuts I guess as they don't appear. They appear on Nova's desktop when created.
Most interesting is a shortcut called "Prod and Devo Switch" which if you look at the info refers to the "Amazon Device Settings" app.. ( com.amazon.device.settings?). It's separate from the user settings. If you try to access it it will say "Access Denied" on 5.0.1. Or "Permission denied" on 5.0.0. Makes me wonder if what needs to happen the app needs some additional permissions to be run. I was looking through the list of permissions via ADB and there are a number of permission groups that are android.xxxxx. However there are only a few permission groups that are amazon.xxxxx one of which is amazon.permission-group.settings. Listing the settings in the group shows a large list. Maybe using ADB pm grant com.amazon.device.settings the correct permissions could unlock this? Thoughts?
Here's what I got from a logcat when I click on the shortcut in novalauncher:
I/ActivityManager( 454): START u0 {act=android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x1000000
0 cmp=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310]
} from uid 10017 on display 0
W/ActivityManager( 454): Permission Denial: starting Intent { act=android.inten
t.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActiv
ity bnds=[300,168][400,310] } from ProcessRecord{9460965 1138:com.teslacoilsw.la
uncher/u0a17} (pid=1138, uid=10017) requires com.amazon.dcp.permission.DISPLAY_D
EBUG_UI
E/Launcher( 1138): Launcher does not have the permission to launch Intent { act=
android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoPr
odConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310] }. Make sure to create a MAIN intent-fi
lter for the corresponding activity or use the exported attribute for this activ
ity. tag=ShortcutInfo(title=Prod and Devo Switch intent=#Intent;launchFlags=0x10
000000;component=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActivity;sourceBounds
=300%20168%20400%20310;end id=15 type=Shortcut container=-100 screen=1 rank=-1 c
ellX=3.0 cellY=1.0 spanX=1.0 spanY=1.0 dropPos=null user=UserHandle{0} modelGene
ration=-1) intent=Intent { act=android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com
.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310] }
E/Launcher( 1138): java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: starting Inte
nt { act=android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.amazon.device.setting
s/.DevoProdConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310] } from ProcessRecord{9460965 1
138:com.teslacoilsw.launcher/u0a17} (pid=1138, uid=10017) requires com.amazon.dc
p.permission.DISPLAY_DEBUG_UI
Tried granting that specific permission to Nova launcher or the Fire launcher but both do the same thing:
com.amazon.firelauncher com.amazon.dcp.permission.DISPLAY_DEBUG_UI <
Operation not allowed: java.lang.SecurityException: Package com.amazon.firelaunc
her has not requested permission com.amazon.dcp.permission.DISPLAY_DEBUG_UI
Maybe someone with more knowledge than I create a program with that permission that calls the intent in question?
Again good work on this
I picked up another new device yesterday morning. OTA updates disabled, Fire OS 5.0, no association to Amazon and connectivity via WiFi. Just like you I got Gmail, YouTube and other Google associated apps to work with the exception of the Play store. It finally let me sign in but comes up every time with the [Connection Retry] error.
I followed your instructions and installed AnyCut - and I have been playing around as I thought it might be possible by using shortcuts to load my Google account onto the device.
Shortcut [Add an account] - and the "Couldn't sign in - google server error" came back so not working for now.
Shortcut [Testing] - allows us to pull up more info on the Fire 7 with the 4 below options
Tablet Information - not working
Battery Information - working
Usage Statistics - working
WiFi Information - working
Shortcut [IP Settings] - gives us advanced WiFi options
A lot of the options try to load or there is a visible presence of starting to load and you can clearly see the device stopping them from loading. Basically we are trying to load Android Apps that are locked down by Fire OS which sits on top of Android.
Other apps with Permission Denied
[Log Manager]
[Crash Manager]
[Metrics Debug UI]
Looks like Amazon do not want us to have access to their inbuilt log files on their device
As I do not have access to Google store I have been using F-Droid for my apps. I have installed APK Extractor and it lists all the current APK's on the Fire 7. What is interesting about this is that there are APK's that where not findable using [AnyCut] but show up in APK Extractor.
Will update more in a bit
Here's an interesting note..... I'm on 5.0.0 and trying to get the Play Store working (I believe that 5.0.0 w/ Play Store is a better avenue to attack than trying to fix the launcher in 5.0.1)
For testing reasons I'm on an older version of the Play Store where the search icon is visible.
On the play store screen where it says no connection with the retry button, I hit the search icon and start typing "clas" It autofilled in clash of clans. Then i did "hang" and I see hangouts dialer. The play store app is communicating it would seem.....
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Here's an interesting note..... I'm on 5.0.0 and trying to get the Play Store working (I believe that 5.0.0 w/ Play Store is a better avenue to attack than trying to fix the launcher in 5.0.1)
For testing reasons I'm on an older version of the Play Store where the search icon is visible.
On the play store screen where it says no connection with the retry button, I hit the search icon and start typing "clas" It autofilled in clash of clans. Then i did "hang" and I see hangouts dialer. The play store app is communicating it would seem.....
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What is the version of your Play APK please? As I have the latest version with no search - but still on 5.0.0
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What is the version of your Play APK please? As I have the latest version with no search - but still on 5.0.0
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I'm trying all kinds, the one i was using for that test I got here:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...4&authkey=!AIVXLFXAOWDeM0Q&ithint=folder,.apk
I'm with you I tried some work arounds on the 5.0.1 tablet but if we can get the play store working on 5.0.0 it seems to offer more opportunities.
Yep same here - it makes more sense to get Play store to work.
I think I might know what the issue is causing and I believe it is down to the Google Service Framework (GSF) on 5.0 not installing correctly and causing the sync issue when trying to connect. I installed [Device ID] app on 5.0 and there is no serial listed for GSF at all - on my 5.1 tablet GSF would load up on the screen and you could view settings but on 5.0 it does not.
When trying to open the Google Play some I found the following error in Logcat [.onClick: b/5160617: Reinitialize account] this relates to the GSF serial not being present. Logs also show permissions and api errors as well. The only
Looking into a GSF workaround if possible. It might be on the wrong track but I am going to see what else I can find out.
I thought I had found a back door into Google signin. Using an App calling [Applications Info] which I used to pull up the GoogleServiceFframework apk. From there I started to play around with the launch options for the applicable services.
Selecting launch on [Legal Services] takes you to Google Sign In - keyboard was not working for this so I had to adb shell input text of my gmail & password. Unfortunately the same old Google error was appearing even after I cleared the cache and re-installed Gapps.
The last screengrab shows that the System Updates on installed Google Service Framework is corrupt and not working properly. I have also launched other Gapps dependent activities from the services in [App Info] and again they either fail to load of abundance of errors. So installation issues for all of the Gapps in one way or another on Fire 5.0
Obviously there is a difference between the 5.0 Rom + 5.01 Rom that is stopping Gapps from working. Due to the amount of errors in Logcat and in Application Info and dependent services not working. My gut is saying that when we have root on 5.0 we have a better chance of getting Gapps working as we will have the ability to play around with not only System files but System commands too.
If anyone has any ideas or what else we could try please chip in.
rivethead23 said:
Hook the Fire up to your computer and do the following commands:
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.otaverifier
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
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running those commands will prevent any future update?
Right now I have 5.0.1 and I'm happy with it, I would like to avoid any bad surprises.
redst said:
running those commands will prevent any future update?
Right now I have 5.0.1 and I'm happy with it, I would like to avoid any bad surprises.
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yes updates would be blocked until you run the unhide commands.
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Hi all, I have a Mediapad M3 lite 10 (BAH-W09) obtained in China. It's currently running Emui 5.1.3 and Android 7.0 u rooted. Im currently trying to install a Google system on it for work purposes. I've tried using GMSinstaller but the whole apk is blocked. [App may damage your device, installation forbidden]. There is no option in the security menu to prevent checks on apks. I've also tried to manually installing the framework and play services but the play store still asks to install the core GMS packages. Is there a work around for this?
Gms
Same problem for me have you found a solution?
zabbaskeema said:
Same problem for me have you found a solution?
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When I switched off and on the external sources/third party app radio buttons, there was an option to "Enable external sources app to scan..." that was enabled by default. I disabled that tick box and it never checked any APK's again.
Hope this works for you.
Hi
Ive previously been able to download and instal apk's and use them successfully on my Sony Bravia 4k LED TV.
I had to uninstall an app and when I tried to reinstall, despite having the unknown sources switch turned on for both file manager apps that I usually use and verify apps switch turned off, I get the 'app not installed' error.
Also when trying to use the Send files to TV app, it always fails with 'software caused abort' error on TV and remote 'connection reset by peer' error on the phone.
Has Sony somehow stopped APK installation from working. ?
Android 9
Sony update July 2021 ( says up to date in settings)
Pixel 7 phone, Android 13
Try sideloading a different/new app to see if it installs ok.