Marshmallow vs Nougat - Zenfone 2 Laser Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can anyone pls tell me whats the feature upgrade that we get while moving from Android 6 to Android 7....

prajith260 said:
Can anyone pls tell me whats the feature upgrade that we get while moving from Android 6 to Android 7....
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there r lots of YouTube video for that .. watch them you will get to know

The biggest feature of Nougat based ROMS, or more accurately CM14 and LineageOS14 based ROMS, is inconsistent instability.
Random things mess up at random times.
Every single 7.1.x based ROM I have tried for Z00T (almost all of them) have gotten pretty annoying sometimes. They are all almost there, but still short of fully stable. There's tons of really nice features, especially in OctOS and Resurrection Remix, but the random crashes of random apps has just become too much for me to tolerate.
I applaud the devs who have put in their time to give us these ROMs. I have a coworker who is an Android dev, and he says the problem is really with Nougat, not the devs. I believe him 100%, especially after reading articles that Pixel users have had with stock Nougat versions.
I am, as I type this, in the process of backing up apps and SD card data so I can revert to a Marshmallow ROM.
If you don't mind random app crashes, and mind you it's not all the time but you never know when to expect it, the 7.1.x ROMS are worth trying out. Aside from the bad times, Nougat is really nice.

ericpeacock79 said:
The biggest feature of Nougat based ROMS, or more accurately CM14 and LineageOS14 based ROMS, is inconsistent instability.
Random things mess up at random times.
Every single 7.1.x based ROM I have tried for Z00T (almost all of them) have gotten pretty annoying sometimes. They are all almost there, but still short of fully stable. There's tons of really nice features, especially in OctOS and Resurrection Remix, but the random crashes of random apps has just become too much for me to tolerate.
I applaud the devs who have put in their time to give us these ROMs. I have a coworker who is an Android dev, and he says the problem is really with Nougat, not the devs. I believe him 100%, especially after reading articles that Pixel users have had with stock Nougat versions.
I am, as I type this, in the process of backing up apps and SD card data so I can revert to a Marshmallow ROM.
If you don't mind random app crashes, and mind you it's not all the time but you never know when to expect it, the 7.1.x ROMS are worth trying out. Aside from the bad times, Nougat is really nice.
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i have experienced app crashes also and at times its kind of slow also.............. i think u are already in marshmallow now.... which ROM are u using ??

ericpeacock79 said:
The biggest feature of Nougat based ROMS, or more accurately CM14 and LineageOS14 based ROMS, is inconsistent instability.
Random things mess up at random times.
Every single 7.1.x based ROM I have tried for Z00T (almost all of them) have gotten pretty annoying sometimes. They are all almost there, but still short of fully stable. There's tons of really nice features, especially in OctOS and Resurrection Remix, but the random crashes of random apps has just become too much for me to tolerate.
I applaud the devs who have put in their time to give us these ROMs. I have a coworker who is an Android dev, and he says the problem is really with Nougat, not the devs. I believe him 100%, especially after reading articles that Pixel users have had with stock Nougat versions.
I am, as I type this, in the process of backing up apps and SD card data so I can revert to a Marshmallow ROM.
If you don't mind random app crashes, and mind you it's not all the time but you never know when to expect it, the 7.1.x ROMS are worth trying out. Aside from the bad times, Nougat is really nice.
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I'm also facing similar issues on my zenfone selfie
Is there any stock ASUS MM ROM which is pre-rooted and can be flashed via TWRP or which MM custom rom is most stable? I tried RR MM rom, but it was also unstable..

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I'm also facing similar issues on my zenfone selfie
Is there any stock ASUS MM ROM which is pre-rooted and can be flashed via TWRP or which MM custom rom is most stable? I tried RR MM rom, but it was also unstable..
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Try HalogenOS, I found it very stable and well optimized for our devices

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Hi All,
I have had my Galaxy S 4 (I9505) for a while now but it is still running android 4.3.
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
I want to flash a new rom onto it (I have done this in the past with a samsung tablet)
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
Thanks for any help and advice.
Daniel
Custom roms give you more performance. Stock roms tend to lag here and there, from what I saw in rom reviews.
If you want a minimalist rom, go for CM12 or Slim roms. They have very few features.
If you want lots of features, go for AICP or Resurrection Remix. These two combine the most popular features from other roms (I personally use Resurrection Remix).
And there are the GPE roms. I don't know how GPE 5.1 is, but on 5.0 the rom was rock solid and everything worked.
I can't say anythinv about stock touchwiz because, since I changed I never went back
Spoorman88 said:
Hi All,
I have had my Galaxy S 4 (I9505) for a while now but it is still running android 4.3.
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
I want to flash a new rom onto it (I have done this in the past with a samsung tablet)
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
Thanks for any help and advice.
Daniel
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Try a custom S6 Touchwiz ROM for your phone model - you'll be pleasantly surprised by the new look, feel and performance. I know I am!
I tried CM but not such a big fan... Experiment a bit until you find what you were ALWAYS looking for!
You try to consider CM 12.1 or GPE Roms. The major disadvantage is the camera quality and some multitasking features on TW, but it's hella fast and smooth.
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Roms
I would recommend Cyanogenmod but sometimes it comes with some problems. Check out first which is the stable version for s4.
Also, I would recommend the WickedRom which is great and great performance. And the WanamLite Rom is amazing if you would like to tune your mobile , for example gpu or cpu in higher frequencies or even set custom gestures and etc.( but remember to be careful with those why you might break your phone
Spoorman88 said:
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
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it's like you have already a custom rom, or a rooted & modified stock rom !.
Spoorman88 said:
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
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go for Resurrection Remix like said: GDReaper, or may be BlissPOP ( with terrible battery drain for me).
I tried just the straight CM 12 rom and it was okay, but once I put on the one of the Optimized CM 12.1 roms I got better battery life and faster performance, but also lost a few features, got a few bugs, but so far so good. It really depends what you want.
If you are willing to have a few crashes, bugs you can put on the newest rom builds, but if you want stable, then going for the older well established ones may be a better option.
skoey said:
I tried just the straight CM 12 rom and it was okay, but once I put on the one of the Optimized CM 12.1 roms I got better battery life and faster performance, but also lost a few features, got a few bugs, but so far so good. It really depends what you want.
If you are willing to have a few crashes, bugs you can put on the newest rom builds, but if you want stable, then going for the older well established ones may be a better option.
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I have to correct you here buddy It's almost always better to pick the latest CM build. Because it's a work in progress, every new build has a lot fixes.
I'm curious though to what bugs you are referring to. I used it pretty long and I found it almost to be bugfree. Besides the obvious difficulty's with bluetooth.
Lennyz1988 said:
I have to correct you here buddy It's almost always better to pick the latest CM build. Because it's a work in progress, every new build has a lot fixes.
I'm curious though to what bugs you are referring to. I used it pretty long and I found it almost to be bugfree. Besides the obvious difficulty's with bluetooth.
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Hey Lenny, the official CM builds I have never had an issue with (except nightlies of course) however when we get into the custom ROM world such as Slimroms, modified CM builds etc I do tend to hit a few bugs, such as crashes of apps, however often those builds then become stable.
Hope that makes more sense?
The only good advice is to just use stock roms. It's stable, no bugs, no issues. The only thing that pisses you off is the laggggggg!

Best STABLE ROM released for Redmi 2?

Hello, I got my cousin's Redmi 2, so I was hoping to put Custom ROMs. I've been searching around, but didn't seem to find the best stable ROM. I need a daily driver, and it doesn't need to be Marshmallow, but an upgrade from KitKat would be nice. I love the Lollipop UI. But still, I give my preference to the most stable ROM, since I don't want juggle around every single custom ROM available.
Thank You!
UPDATE 21/03.
Thank you guys for the poll! MIUI was getting all RAM sucky so I needed to get a Custom ROM. I've tried Nexus Experience, Resurrection Remix, HTC Remix, and Kuma's CyanogenMod 13.
Nexus Experience: It has same user interface you get from Nexus, but it lacks multitasking capabilities. Besides most of the ROMs in stock looks like this, so I wouldn't recommend this. Link to Download, Credits:Nexus Exp. team
HTC Remix: This ROM is bulky in size, I've waited for 3-4 hrs for it to complete the download, and when I installed, the recovery ended with an error. But from the reviews, it said it has some camera bugs with the stock cam but Snapdragon cam is working. It didn't have the HTC Dialer also. If you switched from an HTC and want the HTC UI, you should take this. Link to Download, Credits:(--light--)
Resurrection Remix: This ROM was good, but compared to CM13, this ROM sucked battery more and at the first boot, the status bar had some lag issues, but after one or two reboots, it was working perfect. Besides that, no problem, this is the second best ROM. Link to Download, Credits:nick37332001
Kumajaya's CM13: This is by far the best ROM I've tried. Battery is the best, considerable less lag while multi-tasking, good gaming performance, and the basic MM UI. I didn't find any bugs at all. If you're looking for the best ROM, this is the one. Link to Download Credits:ketut.kumajaya
I've also found that, newbies to ROM flashing tend to think Official ROMs and Builds are better than Unofficial ones. This is a wrong perception. Kuma's build's are unofficial, but it had a much better performance compared to Nexus Experience. What counts is how much work the devs put into this.
Hope this thread becomes helpful to both users as well as developers. Great work, devs. Hope you keep up the good work.
Hello Venkatesh, Im using 2014818 too. Can you tell me which ROM are you using? Also, even after I flashed Custom recovery, I still see stock recovery, but from there Im able to access TWRP. is this expected behavior? Please tell stable roms for Redmi 2 2014818
john_keshav said:
Hello Venkatesh, Im using 2014818 too. Can you tell me which ROM are you using? Also, even after I flashed Custom recovery, I still see stock recovery, but from there Im able to access TWRP. is this expected behavior? Please tell stable roms for Redmi 2 2014818
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I am on stock miui brother. First root your device, install flashify and flash twrp from flashify. You are done.
Sent from my 2014818 using XDA Free mobile app
No rules broken here. Carry on! :good:
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Blisspop ROM
I have flashed Blisspop ROM, run smoothly until now ( more than 2 days)
Kumajaya's Marshmellow as daily driver. Using since last december, never crash-rebooted and rare bugs. Battery could have been better. And camera, obviously you can't beat MIUI's stock camera but it's all right.
cm 13 by kuma is already stable because basic functionality of redmi 2 is now working been using till now
Thanks guys! I've updated my OP, with reviews.
@rohitaar I'm too on cm 13 its smooth stable,but have you tried aosp caf,if yes how's it? I like idea of pure aosp ROM on which I could use xposed if I want any feature.Please review it if you can
I must add the (at least) here, none of the MM ROMs has a working adb, and some of has GPS issues
Lennoard said:
I must add the (at least) here, none of the MM ROMs has a working adb, and some of has GPS issues
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Do not believe this guy, I've been using ADB for like every ROM to batch install the APKs which I've backed up from the Stock MIUI.
ADB works perfectly. Also, I love Here Maps more than Google Maps, and it has no problems at all. Brother, if you have any issues with your phone, you should check it with the manufacturers, or at least other users, see if they have any issues.
rohitsonone said:
@rohitaar I'm too on cm 13 its smooth stable,but have you tried aosp caf,if yes how's it? I like idea of pure aosp ROM on which I could use xposed if I want any feature.Please review it if you can
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@rohitsonone No.. I had a look at it, but the UI seemed too Ice-Sandwich type! You see the screenshots! Guess I'm happy with CM13! You can use xposed in CM 13, no problems, although I don't want any tweaks.
I dont think kuma's cm13 ROM has best battery. I mean it is not to hurt him, but the marshmallow changes which forces us to enable gps for wifi functionality is the thief. It sucks battery like hell. But cm13 of kuma had awesome camera and it had no lags at all !! Very clean and smooth UI. As the kernel source has been released for redmi 2 we will have wait for some good battery management tweaks. PS: I am using kuma's cm12.1 as my daily driver and it has no problem at all except camera quality and the battery management(better than cm13 but still . . .)
can anyone help me with the audio bug? {audio playing with speaker and headphones.} the roms i used tends to work normally for 10 reboots. but after some reboots the audio bug kicks in. audio playing with speaker and headphones. hope thats the bug with roms. I have used Ressurection Remix both 5.1 and 6.0.

Stock not stable

after miui i bought this **** called as stock android but except camera, everything is buggy....I think everyone is searching for custom rom, do u know any serious developer who working on custom rom in mia1??
my stock mia1 is stable and working just fine.. and NOT EVERYONE is searching for a custom rom.. it seems only you're the one who's looking for it ??
CMIIW
This phone on oreo is buggy as hell, battery drain fast, apps crash too often and sound from headphones/spesker is unlistenable. Nougat was much better. Yes, working custom rom would be awesome, but xiaomi hasn't released sources for oreo, only for nougat. So there won't be many custom roms until thay do. You need to know that there is a big 8.2.1 official update rolling outthis month which will (we hope) fix most of this problems.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A1 using XDA Labs
Nobody will release a custom rom now, because the sources are for nougat. Then when android 9.0 releases, xiaomi will drop 8.0 sources, and then won't be custom roms either because 9.0 is the latest android. and so on... xD.
I'm only waiting for custom kernels at least.
Exmantion said:
This phone on oreo is buggy as hell, battery drain fast, apps crash too often and sound from headphones/spesker is unlistenable. Nougat was much better. Yes, working custom rom would be awesome, but xiaomi hasn't released sources for oreo, only for nougat.
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Now you're just over exaggerating stuffs. I'm still getting 6-8 hours of SOT, apps doesn't crash at all and apart from the hissing sound, the sound is actually pretty nice. Lineage OS is already booting and left wth minor bugs. Just wait for it if you can't stand with current buggy stock rom.
Yeahhhhhhhh another thread. Such a productive thread.
We should make more threads like this.

Stable Oreo? Please read completely

I am wanting to unlock my new moto g5 plus. I have to have it for work so the rom has to be the five 9s. I am not trying to start a word war just a simple question. Yes I have done some searching and so far I have gotten many conflicted statements. I have RETUS on 93-8 build. Any help would be great
What is the most stable and close to AOSP Oreo rom we have?
Also I have a Full Backup of 93-8. If you have TWRP and want to go back to stock just restore. Let it boot. most things didnt work. Reboot into recovery and factory reset I did it X3 just old habit and reboot everything is working fine. will update post with link if anyone is interested
Thank you
P.S. MODS I am not trying to have a best rom thread here. Each rom has features each person wants etc etc. If it starts to get crazy please remove thread.
Thank you in advance for your help.
orvon.freeman said:
I am wanting to unlock my new moto g5 plus. I have to have it for work so the rom has to be the five 9s. I am not trying to start a word war just a simple question. Yes I have done some searching and so far I have gotten many conflicted statements. I have RETUS on 93-8 build. Any help would be great
What is the most stable and close to AOSP Oreo rom we have?
Thank you
P.S. MODS I am not trying to have a best rom thread here. Each rom has features each person wants etc etc. If it starts to get crazy please remove thread.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Now, I'm currently in AOSP Extended and works like a charm, even on camera and the OBB bug that some Oreo ROMs have it's fixed. There's Pixel Experience, but the ROM it hasn't been updated since February; it's really stable but it has problems with the camera in some apps and other small bugs. If you want personalization and stability, go for AOSPExtended. If you want only stability and lightweight Pixel/AOSP alike experience, go for PE or LineageOS (I haven't tried this ROM yet, but it is there). Good luck!
orvon.freeman said:
I am wanting to unlock my new moto g5 plus. I have to have it for work so the rom has to be the five 9s. I am not trying to start a word war just a simple question. Yes I have done some searching and so far I have gotten many conflicted statements. I have RETUS on 93-8 build. Any help would be great
What is the most stable and close to AOSP Oreo rom we have?
Thank you
P.S. MODS I am not trying to have a best rom thread here. Each rom has features each person wants etc etc. If it starts to get crazy please remove thread.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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I think AOSP Extended is a good choice.
It's in active development, has the major Oreo bugs fixed, nice features and a good performance.
But it shouldn't be unsaid that I haven't found a custom rom that could hold a candle to stock in terms of battery and stability.
And don't forget that there could be major issues when you want to go back to stock like losing IMEI, 4g or voLTE. Be sure to have a backup especially of EFS.
All custom roms are build without a "real android 8" for Moto G5+ so maybe it could be worth waiting for stock Oreo.
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Wolfcity said:
I think AOSP Extended is a good choice.
It's in active development, has the major Oreo bugs fixed, nice features and a good performance.
But it shouldn't be unsaid that I haven't found a custom rom that could hold a candle to stock in terms of battery and stability.
And don't forget that there could be major issues when you want to go back to stock like losing IMEI, 4g or voLTE. Be sure to have a backup especially of EFS.
All custom roms are build without a "real android 8" for Moto G5+ so maybe it could be worth waiting for stock Oreo.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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I am trying it now, the only problem I have is since I was on 93-8 there is no full firmware yet. I cant go to 93-4 get invalid everything. So until that firmware is released guess its custom for me hopefully Oreo comes soon so we can get any small issues in Oreo roms ironed out. Deff been a fun day playing with roms
Im using OmniROM for a month or so.
Good battery (from 5am to aprox. 11pm with 2h+ of music listening, and general usage)
Câmera I personally dont use much but works fine.
Is fast and stable nothing to complain about.
Im not using FOR work anymore since I got another job, but I certainly sure if I have to, the phone will work fine.
I've been using nitrogen os for a few months now and never had one reboot and battery is better than stock with my usage.
I thankfully did a full backup before I did anything so I can go back to stock rom with stock recovery

What is the most stable Oreo ROM for daily use? [MOTOG4 ATHENE]

I know there are some common bugs, but I know they'll be fixed soon or later. Meanwhile I just want to try Oreo in my phone with an stable ROM. Thanks in advance!
I bet everyone will name a different rom, but I would suggest Omni Rom, because the developer is pretty quick with fixes. If you don't like Omni, you could try unofficial Lineage 15.1 32bit.
I would definitely not use a 64 bit version, because of the memory leak problems, at least not until we have Motorola's Oreo Kernel sources and drivers.
Personally I wouldn't use any Oreo rom as my daily driver, especially since stock rom has very good performance and battery backup.
I was using AICP but the dev is currently busy with other things, so it hasn't had a working update in a while. RR is pretty good as well. However, if you're not willing to deal with memory leaks, Omni is the way to go.
Cuervoazulado said:
I know there are some common bugs, but I know they'll be fixed soon or later. Meanwhile I just want to try Oreo in my phone with an stable ROM. Thanks in advance!
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Ragarianok said:
I was using AICP but the dev is currently busy with other things, so it hasn't had a working update in a while. RR is pretty good as well. However, if you're not willing to deal with memory leaks, Omni is the way to go.
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I used RR for a week, but the memory leaks were just too bad. H e c c, every single time someone would send me something on Messenger and the chat bubble would appear, my phone would freeze. And while it is true that Omni doesn't suffer from memory leaks, I found it very laggy even after trying clean flashes of multiple builds over time. And yes, Night Light and LiveDisplay were off. I was quite happy with Nitrogen OS at some point, but, if I'm right, it wasn't updated in a while. I'm currently trying a clean flash of AOSiP and I am quite surprised, the ROM is extremely fluid and, even after getting all of my apps from RR back up and running, the RAM didn't get eaten up yet. So I would recommend giving it a try, but every ROM has different features, and everyone has different tastes. So you'll need to do some testing until you find one to suit your preferences. Good luck!

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