whats the difference between the two maintainer and builder? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

whats the difference between the two maintainer and builder?
there are a lot of nougat roms but they are all not official...as far as i understand because there ie no maintainer. but there are builder. so whats the difference.
almost every s model including the minis have official nougat

Maintainer is a developer, somebody that actually knows programming and also has some experience with it. He or she is the one that fixes device specific bugs.
A builder is just that, somebody that builds the ROMs. Anyone can build a ROM, it doesn't require any programming knowledge.
And there are various guides on how to do it too, you only need a Linux system with decent performance, otherwise it might take some hours only to build one ROM zip.
The Maintainer job is purely a voluntary one. So somebody has to volunteer to become the Lineage maintainer for the S4. But this is not all. He or she also needs to be accepted by the Lineage team, because they don't just take anyone. You need some experience for it.
Another reason we have no official Nougat is because there are still some bugs (such as the reboot bug) and the Lineage team doesn't accept that from what I heard. Oh, and they want cleaner code too.
So yeah, I don't know if he will have any official Nougat any time soon, if ever.
But just because we don't have official Nougat doesn't mean we don't have developers. We still have some people that do some developing for the S4.

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can any dev make some other roms for moto g4 plus ?

Can any devlpr make some other rom like flyme, colour os, untill the Volte bugs solved in cm..that ll b great
Why don't you do it instead? There's a lot of resources on the internet that can get you started in no time.
If i know how to make rom from sources, i would started the work...if u know how to make thn ur gud to go..
All the Devs doing this stuff in their free time so take what has been released or make a ROM by yourself.
If you don't know how to make a ROM, head over to the library and the Internet, get books and stuff and learn the java programming language.
Additionally learn the "edify" language for setting up the updater-script etc. which is needed for proper recovery flashing.
So long...
I don't think the VOLTE bug is a motivator for any dev to develop an entirely new ROM.
They'd rather focus their efforts in squashing that bug and make a stable CM based ROM, which in my opinion is the best an Android can get.
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1chrome said:
I don't think the VOLTE bug is a motivator for any dev to develop an entirely new ROM.
They'd rather focus their efforts in squashing that bug and make a stable CM based ROM, which in my opinion is the best an Android can get.
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Yeah, I agree.
Plus PAC-rom is already in development, which takes the best from the best. So stay put, trust the devs and start contributing by testing of on-going ROMs.
PS
Resurrection Remix here and Beanstalk here are also in development.

Need help wrapping my head around building AOSP for HTC One M9

Hey folks,
I know most people have already given up on this phone because it didn't sell well and doesn't have much support. But like the rest of us still browsing this forum, I still have my M9 and still believe it can be improved. I am currently working on a project to build a clean AOSP rom (without any kinky modifications, just a nice stock rom built directly from the AOSP sources.)
I've never undergone such a project, and I've been reading a lot about the steps necessary to realize this goal. I've been following Sony's excellent AOSP building guide so far. I have the android sources downloaded, all I'm missing are the proprietary files (from the device itself, most likely) and the ability to set up the proper device trees/manifests. I was planning to use the Cyanogenmod device tree because a lot of work has gone into it and, given that my M9 is currently running one of the CM13 nightlies, is pretty stable and works with new device firmwares. I know there is already a guide on the Cyanogenmod wiki for building CM for the M9, but I am not building CM at all, I want to build a 100% stock AOSP rom.
Can anybody help me proceed from here? I've downloaded the https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_hima-common tree and put it into device/htc/himaul but I'm not sure where to go from here. The extract-files.sh script does not work (because there is no CM helper script). Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing?
Thank you very much in advance. I hope this will help everyone as I know many people have been looking for a non-CM AOSP rom for this phone (some do not agree with CM design philosophies). I definitely plan to share this rom and write a guide to help other projects when this is figured out.
I look forward to hearing back,
vivremetrique
Hi, I have no idea on doing roms, but you could help be your tester ...
whatever you need, talk me
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It would be good to make a ROM Nougat if possible
AOSP 100% and cyanogenmod device tree are totally different
I don't know what does it take to have a full aosp working rom, but I'm sure that CM code has nothing to do with it.
anyway, with the right work it shouldn't be so hard since m9 shares hardware with nexus 6p...
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[/COLOR]It would be good to make a ROM Nougat if possible
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Yes, the sources I will be building from will be Nougat sources (7.1 experimental sources). Thank you for offering to test once this is done.
throcker said:
AOSP 100% and cyanogenmod device tree are totally different
I don't know what does it take to have a full aosp working rom, but I'm sure that CM code has nothing to do with it.
anyway, with the right work it shouldn't be so hard since m9 shares hardware with nexus 6p...
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I mean the operating system will be 100% AOSP, but obviously since this is not a Nexus/Pixel device the device tree will not be included in AOSP... The device tree/proprietary files have nothing to do with the actual user experience, they are simply needed for support of the hardware/stock kernel if desired/camera or wireless firmware. I don't see the sense is rewriting these from scratch given the time and effort already put into them by CM devs/those in the Cyanogenmod threads in this forum.
It would be great if some of you could help gather helpers for this project. It seems that properly setting up the device and getting ready to build the rom are all that is missing, so I'm hoping this goes relatively quickly.
So I believe I've made some progress. I downloaded the htc vendor files, the htc msm8994 kernel files, the hima-common tree, and the himaul tree. There is still something missing, because running the "lunch" command warns that it cannot locate the config makefile.
I found references to cm in cm.mk in device/htc/himaul/cm.mk but I don't know what to replace them with and I don't want to download the whole CM source tree as well.
Can anyone shed some light on this issue?
I can't help you, but that is a very good idea! Hope you can solve this issue.
Nice project, I would love to see AOSP Nougat on our M9! I'm not a dev who could help you with the building process, but maybe the dev of the CM14 port for M8 could give you an advice. Good luck!
I think you are underestimating the efford and skills it needs. Even with official Kernel Source released it took some really effort to make for example the camera work. If you don't know hot to setup a device tree for an existing rom, then I feel the skills required exceeding the ones you have. I don't want to offend you, but maybe it's better to take a step back an learn how to add this to an AOSP Marshmallow rom, instead of thinking about porting it to Nougat. If it would be that easy, wouldn't a ready to use Nougat Version of any other popular Rom for the m9 be out already?
Any telegram group of One M9???
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I think you are underestimating the efford and skills it needs. Even with official Kernel Source released it took some really effort to make for example the camera work. If you don't know hot to setup a device tree for an existing rom, then I feel the skills required exceeding the ones you have. I don't want to offend you, but maybe it's better to take a step back an learn how to add this to an AOSP Marshmallow rom, instead of thinking about porting it to Nougat. If it would be that easy, wouldn't a ready to use Nougat Version of any other popular Rom for the m9 be out already?
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That effort would.not be wasted. Once the solution to the camera problem is solved, it's solved for all versions, not just Marshmallow. We can reuse the kernel source and firmware blobs in N. I reckon that we don't have a rom because nobody is working on it.
If it would be that easy, why isnt there an official (or even inofficial) cm 14 for m9 out, as it already got an official cm 13? If everything you needed would be to just switch everything else to cm 14 and reuse the mm kernel source and blobs?
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If it would be that easy, why isnt there an official (or even inofficial) cm 14 for m9 out, as it already got an official cm 13? If everything you needed would be to just switch everything else to cm 14 and reuse the mm kernel source and blobs?
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Because there is almost zero demand for one. People in the CM13 thread are actively discouraged from even mentioning CM14. How can we develop the ROM if we don't have anybody working on it?
Given CM's automated device tree preparation system, I doubt it would take more than a simple source tree update to Nougat to start compiling a 7.x ROM (whether it works perfectly or not, it would be a start).
Well then I would say, a way to start might be to try compile a booting cm 14 for the m9. Last time I looked there has been at least a device tree prepared for cm 14. I guess that would be the easiest way to test, if you might be succesfull with it
Any news @vivremetrique ? Or did you drop the project?
While it is possible to build cm14.1 for the M9, I was unable to make it see the sim card after days of trying. something in libril or possibly the firmware I have makes it not work.
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While it is possible to build cm14.1 for the M9, I was unable to make it see the sim card after days of trying. something in libril or possibly the firmware I have makes it not work.
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If it is the same Problem I had with a CM13 based rom, then the build.prop is missing some Values to detect network. I took them from a working one and put them in the BoardConfig by hand
can't help, but my hopes are so high for this one!

Advice on Purchase

Hello,
I'm strongly considering picking up a LePro 3, but I do have some concerns. I understand that the stock software isn't very good and I'm looking towards the community to create excellent ROMs for this device, but I do have some questions:
Do we have a clean method for root/unlock/recovery?
Is there anything stopping developers from putting together ROMs that are optimized for every aspect of the phone? i.e. enough source from LeEco?
How would you say developer support is for this device? I'm a fan of official ROM builds instead of using unofficial. Has anyone announced upcoming support for this device that I can look forward to?
Aside from that, feel free to mention anything else I should be aware of before purchasing the phone!
Thanks so much!
Do we have a clean method for root/unlock/recovery?
I have no idea what you mean by clean but if you can use adb then yes we do. If you are looking for a one stop shop all in one unlocker then the answer is no. look here for current method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/flashing-guide-roundup-leeco-le-pro-3-t3511901
Is there anything stopping developers from putting together ROMs that are optimized for every aspect of the phone? i.e. enough source from LeEco?
I believe all source code has been released.
How would you say developer support is for this device? I'm a fan of official ROM builds instead of using unofficial. Has anyone announced upcoming support for this device that I can look forward to?
There is minimal development currently. One person is trying to build a Nougat 7.1 Rom. That's a pretty big feat so it will probably be a while. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/7-1-progress-t3511474
There is a developer that posted a debloated version of the x720(international version) of this rom already. It will work on our x727(US version). It is an older version though so there's that. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-google-edition-cydras-t3514742
xiton said:
There's a CM 13 rom here based on the chinese x720. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/cm-13-lex720-t3508015
Aside from that, feel free to mention anything else I should be aware of before purchasing the phone!
This is literally the smallest compilation of threads I've ever seen for a phone so starting a new thread to ask these questions is pretty silly. Since it's the holidays, I've been nice and responded to what could have easily been found in a couple of minutes.
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Thanks for the reply.
The reason I compiled these questions were because I was hoping for more specific answers and some clarity. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough my initial post and for that I apologize.
I was reading what seemed to be conflicting information about the recovery software and process in which to flash it to the device. It looked as if there wasn't any goto method or specific TWRP version to go with and that this was still somewhat experimental.
It's good to know that the source has been released. I was seeking info about LeEco and people were saying that they didn't release source code for their phones as company policy.
While I've visited the ROM forum section, I was hoping someone would have insight into official ROMs instead of what currently exists there.
For the US model Le Pro 3 (X727) I would recommend using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/x727-model-persistent-bootloader-unlock-t3500388) method to unlock the bootloader. That's what I did and had no issues. From there you can use TWRP to do a full wipe and install the ROM of your choice. Of course, I would recommend taking a backup of everything before doing this.
I'm running that CM 13 build with no issues on my X727. It's also possible to get the IR blaster working if desired.

AOSP for J7

Well its always been that with CM we have been stuck with the camera or reboots.. But considering recent achievements of CM and Resurrection Remix by developers I hope we get a stable one.
But just for instance is it possible or is it easy to have an AOSP Nougat for J7 2015? Since it is a Google source i don't think the source will have any bugs like the Camera of CM which is traveling from CM11.
Considering current situation we will all appreciate a stable nougat build.. Be it AOSP.
No offense to Developers but i was just sharing my views..
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Well its always been that with CM we have been stuck with the camera or reboots.. But considering recent achievements of CM and Resurrection Remix by developers I hope we get a stable one.
But just for instance is it possible or is it easy to have an AOSP Nougat for J7 2015? Since it is a Google source i don't think the source will have any bugs like the Camera of CM which is traveling from CM11.
Considering current situation we will all appreciate a stable nougat build.. Be it AOSP.
No offense to Developers but i was just sharing my views..
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Instead of asking for so much how about you try making it yourself?
I have some experience at installing Linux by compiling things. I would like to work on AOSP. would be kind of you if you provide new with some pointers as follows.....
I am a little confused with the data overload and would like some pointers...
I want to keep only the relevant drivers in the system. So where do i find the original proprietary source files for my Samsung j7 device ?
A good guide on how to compile and the things to keep track of during all this would be very helpful. Thanks.
I am also stuck at sources. Because its not always that a CM source or a Resurrection source would be fit for an Aosp build. So i was just making a suggestion for the experienced devs..

Still no official twrp for our device?

it has been how long since kernel source release, almost all xiaomi phones have official TWRP and ours not,why is that can someone tell me more?
All official TWRPs are handled by different persons (or mostly the same person), however not everyone has loads of freetime, everyone has their own life and issues
If you really want to get TWRP official faster, I suggest you to learn about how Android works, how to create device tree, and how to improve open source kernels
Or
You can also encourage the official maintainer by donating to him. Either works.

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