Difference in root methods - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

What is the difference between these two root methods? The first says to install ADB (what is ADB?), to type adb wait-for-device, then to use ODIN to flash what it calls an "engineer-rooted boot image," and finally to flash the SuperSU file (not sure how).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
The second says to flash the TWRP file through a Windows computer using ODIN, to copy the SuperSU file to the phone (in addition to a no-verify-opt-encrypt file), and to then flash both using the phone while it is in TWRP mode (not through the computer).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlj76YvxGYo
What's happening behind the scenes in each method? There are a lot of guides on how to root one's phone on the internet, but at least I haven't been able to find one that explains what each step actually does. I would really appreciate it if you could explain both methods to me like I was five.
Many thanks in advance,
scndts

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[Q] What can I do with system dump?

Can I recover my dead SG5 with system dump via CWM?
What can I do with it?
It is far from clear what you want to know?
You didn't say what happened to your phone, why it is "dead" or exactly what you mean by dead. CWM is a custom recovery but you didn't even tell us if you had it instlaled and therefore presumably have backups. Or if you are hopeful that CWM will fix your unspecified problem. And system dump is a vague term usually referring to making a backup on the command line using the dd utility.
We need a lot more information if you need help with something. Such as what happened to your phone, whether it boots to recovery or download mode, loads an ADB shell and so forth.
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fffft said:
It is far from clear what you want to know?
You didn't say what happened to your phone, why it is "dead" or exactly what you mean by dead. CWM is a custom recovery but you didn't even tell us if you had it instlaled and therefore presumably have backups. Or if you are hopeful that CWM will fix your unspecified problem. And system dump is a vague term usually referring to making a backup on the command line using the dd utility.
We need a lot more information if you need help with something. Such as what happened to your phone, whether it boots to recovery or download mode, loads an ADB shell and so forth.
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[Q] Somebody give me SCL23's build.prop(original)
I changed build.prop
My android phone is SCL23
AKA Galaxy S5
I am Korean but now I live in Japan for work.
So I used GalaxyS5 for KDDI AU
Some application didn't work on my phone.
Even impossible to install
So I tried to root. Then changed model and vendor from GalaxyS5 to Galaxy S4
But it didn't work for using those apps
So I copy all of texts of build.prop of GalaxyS4.
Then my phone dead.
AU's logo is the only thing I can see.
Before did that
I had do googling and find SCL23's CWM with Chinese letters.
It works well.
Factory reset? YES
Boot? NO
Can not normal boot
Odin mode
I connected phone to PC.
Fail to install USB driver.
I think it cause of phone's hardware and build.prop is not same.
I have external SDCard.
Odin work via USB
And I can go into CWM recovery mode.
So I think if I can find .zip, able to flash, of SCL23's build.prop
I can copy it into extsdcard with friend's android
Then go into CWM and flash it.
I need SCL23's build prop
And somebody make it .zip please
I don't know how to make it.
Please help me.
And thank you for read this poor English
fffft said:
It is far from clear what you want to know?
You didn't say what happened to your phone, why it is "dead" or exactly what you mean by dead. CWM is a custom recovery but you didn't even tell us if you had it instlaled and therefore presumably have backups. Or if you are hopeful that CWM will fix your unspecified problem. And system dump is a vague term usually referring to making a backup on the command line using the dd utility.
We need a lot more information if you need help with something. Such as what happened to your phone, whether it boots to recovery or download mode, loads an ADB shell and so forth.
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I wrote it few days ago.
Nobody replied to me.
So I thought many ways and did googling for recover.
I found link of system dump of SCL23.
So now I want to know about what can I do with it for my android phone's revive.
Please help me
If you have a system dump made while your phone was working properly, you can simply restore that to resolve your problems. It's not clear that that is the actual case though.
In the alternative, the apparent cause of your problems is a non-viable build.prop. You should be able to boot to CWM and then use a ADB shell under CWM to rename or delete /sideload the bad build.prop file and replace it with a good copy. If you didn't keep a good copy, you can download the stock firmware for your phone and use winrar to extract the proper stock build.prop for your phone.
More than likely, if you can boot to recovery mode, then you will be able to boot to download mode as well. So Odin use should be possible. You can use Kies to install a driver. But try CWM first.
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fffft said:
If you have a system dump made while your phone was working properly, you can simply restore that to resolve your problems. It's not clear that that is the actual case though.
In the alternative, the apparent cause of your problems is a non-viable build.prop. You should be able to boot to CWM and then use a ADB shell under CWM to rename or delete /sideload the bad build.prop file and replace it with a good copy. If you didn't keep a good copy, you can download the stock firmware for your phone and use winrar to extract the proper stock build.prop for your phone.
More than likely, if you can boot to recovery mode, then you will be able to boot to download mode as well. So Odin use should be possible. You can use Kies to install a driver. But try CWM first.
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I tried everything you told to me.
But very problem is install USB driver.
Kies failed to find and install USB driver. It worked well before I did it.
So I can not do anything with ADB commands because of USB driver.
But only Odin work to phone.
So I can install CWM. And I can go into CWM recovery mode.
Of course I can go to Download mode.
Can I do something with Linux?
Can I mount My Phone with Linux without install USB driver and then change build.prop.bak to build.prop?
I really appreciate to your reply.
Thanks to your kindness.
If your USB driver was properly installed before the problem, it will continue to work just fine, at least for CWM mode. Build.prop will not interfere with that. So just go to the CWM command line and use the ADB commands to push (replace) the build.prop file.
Are you certain that Odin doesn't recognize the phone in download mode. Ensure that you are entering download mode by removing the phone battery, replacing it, then pressing and holding in order, the volume down, then home, then power key until you see the screen light up. Odin should see the phone and it should not matter if the build.prop file is corrupt. Only the normal boot will be affected by that.
If you have problems connecting ADB or Odin, a far more likely suspect is a bad USB cable. Try a different cable or USB port. And ensure that you are entering download mode in the manner described above. When Odin recognizes your phone, you can write a stock firmware image to you phone to recover.
I haven't used CWM for quite a while (I much prefer TWRP), but it should offer you a command line. So as an alternative, use your PC to write a good copy of the build.prop file to your SD card. Then in CWM you could mount the external SD card, then copy the file from the card to your system directory. In this method, you wouldn't even require the USB driver.
You have lots of options and there are lots of ttutorials on using CWM, ADB and so forth if you need elaboration. You should certainly be able to resolve this issue even though it may be a pain in the neck or somewhat intimidating if it is unfamiliar territory. Nevertheless you can fix it if you are patient.
If the worst case,an alternative would be to pay a cellular repair shop to do the software repair for you. Entirely up to you which is the better approach.
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[Q] How to root Lenovo TAB A7-40 A3500-FL? [Solved] [GUIDE]

How to root Lenovo TAB A7-40 A3500-FL?
[Solved] See the guide below!
Device info:
Model number: Lenovo A3500-FL
Android version: 4.4.2
Kernel version: 3.4.67
Build number: A3500FL_A442_01_25_140823_SE
BB Chip: MT6582
MS Board. A3500FL
Bar code: this was my device's serial number
SW Ver.: ALPS.KK1.MP1.V2.10
Custom Build Verno.: 1408775889
Managed to get cwm and root with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...vo-a3500-h-t2879208/post55491817#post55491817
Modified the guide for Lenovo A3500-FL!
EDIT: Also some users have reported that this guide doesn't do the trick or is out-dated, so copypasted the guide from this post here.
Guide
1. Download attachment cwmRecovery.zip and download latest Flash_tool (version 5.1352.0) can be downloaded from here)
1.1. Enable USB-debugging. (How to do this)
2. Manually install the drivers from the attachment a7_40_drivers.zip for the LenovoTablet before plugin it to computer (win7 dirvers work for win8 too).
2.1. To install unsigned/uncertified drivers on Windows 7: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3914-windows-7-how-to-install-unsigned-drivers
2.2. To install unsigned/uncertified drivers on Windows 8: http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how...8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/
2.3. After you have disabled the driver signature verification, you can install the drivers like this: Right click My computer, Manage, Device Manager, right click your computer at the top, Add Legacy hardware, next, Install plapla manually, next, Show all Devices, Have a Disk.., Browse to the driver folder where you unzip them, choose example windows7 and the 64 version (win7 drivers work for win8.x too), install every device. Then follow the guide.
(Note: Otherwise Windows only installs the normal automatic drivers and its more difficult to install the other drivers.)
2.4. Plug your device to PC.
3. Download the latest supersu zip file (version 2.46) from attachments or from https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/
3.1. Move the zip.-file to the Sdcard.
4. Turn off your device.
5. Unpack cwmRecovery.zip
6. Run Flash_tool.exe with Admin Rights.
7. Chose Scatter-Loading and choose MT6582_Android_scatter.txt (in Recovery folder).
7.1. Now you will see checekd only one checkbox - recovery, if not click on it and choose recovery.img
7.2. Press Download.
7.3. Connect your device.
7.4. Wait few seconds.
8. Have CWM on your device .
9. Unplug your device.
10. . Boot to cmw recovery by turning off your device. Then press and hold VOL DOWN + VOL UP and then also press and hold POWER for about 7 seconds.
10.1. Choose " Install zip from sdcard." (To confrim always use the Power Button)
10.2. Choose "zip from sdcard".
10.3. Select SuperSU-v2.46.zip from sdcard and apply.
10.4. Have a rooted tablet.
It might be necessary to always flash the CWM with the Flashtool directly before you startup the device. Otherwise it will start the original AndroidRecovery again.
It might also be necessary to use different drivers from here.
If the supersu zip doesn't install, try toggling the signature verification to disabled from cwm->install zip from sdcard->toggle signature verification.
Tested and working on Levono A7-40 3500-FL with kitkat update, build number A3500FL_A442_01_25_140823_SE, from ota. Attached screenshot for proof. Also other people have reported that this works for later updates too, for example A3500FL_A442_01_27_141127_SE.
You can update to the latest OTA firmware by first going back to stock recovery. See the second post for the guide.
Thanks and credits go to: @Koli96 and @bobais
How to go back to stock rom/recovery and update to latest Lenovo OTA firmware update
So, it's pretty simple, you take the stock_recovery.zip from the first post, extract it, and replace recovery.img in the recovery folder with the stock one.
Then :
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4. Turn off your device.
6. Run Flash_tool.exe with Admin Rights
7. Chose Scatter-Loading and choose MT6582_Android_scatter.txt (in Recovery folder)
7.1. Now you will see checekd only one checkbox - recovery, if not click on it and choose recovery.img
7.2.. Press Download
7.3. Connect your device
7.4. Wait few seconds.
And that's it !
On a side note, if it seems stuck on a black screen with a loading circle after factory reset, you have to put the tablet in landscape mode and restart (the shutdown menu appears without any problem) - this issue doesn't seem related to recovery, but a bug within lenovo firmware and the first configuration screen.
Side note 2: The first boot after flashing new update might take 15mins.
Side note 3: After updating to the latest OTA you can go back to cwm recovery with the guide from the first post.
Credits @tenuis
I got the same tablet and I also am looking for a root. :/
Another waiting for rooting lenovo owner.
Same here, i was looking for a root guide and i couldn't find anything.
Does anyone else has a problem with long charging times?
Well it charges long and the charge stays long, so no issue here.
Seems that not that many lenovos root easily, but of course this is a pretty new device(?).
leripe said:
Well it charges long and the charge stays long, so no issue here.
Seems that not that many lenovos root easily, but of course this is a pretty new device(?).
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OK let's try this
Install mtk drivers
Install USB and adb drivers
Install v root 1.7.8
Now tick adb debugging and connect your device to PC run v root and click root button after device get connected to v root
Let me know if you have any issues
All the best ?
Sent from my x604 using Tapatalk
The-Immortal said:
OK let's try this
Install mtk drivers
Install USB and adb drivers
Install v root 1.7.8
Now tick adb debugging and connect your device to PC run v root and click root button after device get connected to v root
Let me know if you have any issues
All the best ?
Sent from my x604 using Tapatalk
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Can you link all the drivers?
Edit: Vroot link here: http://vrootdownload.info/vroot1.7.8/
leripe said:
Can you link all the drivers?
Edit: Vroot link here: http://vrootdownload.info/vroot1.7.8/
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If you have win7 or win8/8.1 USB drivers will automatically installed when you connect device
Adb driver I hope this will work
http://adbdriver.com/downloads/
If it fails make a google search am sure you will find it
Sent from my x604 using Tapatalk
The-Immortal said:
If you have win7 or win8/8.1 USB drivers will automatically installed when you connect device
Adb driver I hope this will work
http://adbdriver.com/downloads/
If it fails make a google search am sure you will find it
Sent from my x604 using Tapatalk
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Installed everything and tried vroot once again (I have tried it before).
Still not rooted. And btw that vroot at least tries to install bunch of bloatware crap on the pc.
Edit:
I would suggest for anyone who installed Vroot to your pc to scan the whole pc after you uninstall the vroot.
Here are the scanning tools:
Malwarebytes
adwcleaner
superantispyware
hitmanpro
leripe said:
Installed everything and tried vroot once again (I have tried it before).
Still not rooted. And btw that vroot at least tries to install bunch of bloatware crap on the pc.
Edit:
I would suggest for anyone who installed Vroot to your pc to scan the whole pc after you uninstall the vroot.
Here are the scanning tools:
Malwarebytes
adwcleaner
superantispyware
hitmanpro
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I got a successful root by flashing Recovery.rar from lenovo-forums.ru, (it's easy to google, I'm not allowed to post links) with the included SPFlash Tool and afterwards flashing the needed SU binaryies and apk. However, this will mess up the OTA updates, and I can't find the stock recovery again.
Therefore, I really beg anyone having the stock recovery to post it, enabling us to switch between them, whenever we want to apply any OTAs.
Thanks a lot!
nkr said:
I got a successful root by flashing Recovery.rar from lenovo-forums.ru, (it's easy to google, I'm not allowed to post links) with the included SPFlash Tool and afterwards flashing the needed SU binaryies and apk. However, this will mess up the OTA updates, and I can't find the stock recovery again.
Therefore, I really beg anyone having the stock recovery to post it, enabling us to switch between them, whenever we want to apply any OTAs.
Thanks a lot!
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Well I very highly doubt that there will be any more updates for a device with this price range. And since the next android version is the L version, which requires more work than before.
Edit2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-lenovo-a3500-h-t2879208 found this. Tested and it works. Will edit it to the first post.
The same as me
i cant flash update.zip from cwm recovery and need to restore the stock recovery ...
I think flashing the stock rom can solve the problem..
.by using the sp flash tool we can select to flash recovery only ....unticking the others except recovery.img ....you just try to download the stock rom and flash the recovery
Same problem
Heya guys!
I have the same problem here.. I can't run the .zip file from the SD card, it get interrupted every time. Any ideas?
drabuaiad said:
The same as me
i cant flash update.zip from cwm recovery and need to restore the stock recovery ...
I think flashing the stock rom can solve the problem..
.by using the sp flash tool we can select to flash recovery only ....unticking the others except recovery.img ....you just try to download the stock rom and flash the recovery
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I dont know what you two are trying to do but this thread is about rooting the lenovo A3500-FL not about lenovo stock rom.
Rooting..
Yes indeed, that's what I'm trying to do. Rooting the A3500-FL. According to the instructions you need to install the SuperSU from a zip on your SD card. When I try do that it gets interrupted every time. Installing recovery went well. So I'm not getting what I do wrong? Any ideas?
leripe said:
I dont know what you two are trying to do but this thread is about rooting the lenovo A3500-FL not about lenovo stock rom.
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Mrosenho said:
Yes indeed, that's what I'm trying to do. Rooting the A3500-FL. According to the instructions you need to install the SuperSU from a zip on your SD card. When I try do that it gets interrupted every time. Installing recovery went well. So I'm not getting what I do wrong? Any ideas?
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http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip and y ou mean this when you talk about update.zip?
And I hope you are using the install zip from sdcard option and the choose zip from sdcard option?
Boot to cmw.
Install zip from sdcard.
Choose zip from sdcard.
browse to your supersu zip and apply.
Now I also update the first post's guide, so you can check that out too.
Thanks for the help so far. But now I'm starting to doubt that the CWM install went successfully. Let me show you a picture of my screen after a failed install of the UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip -file. (ht_tps://ww_w.dropb_ox.com/s/1wrnatzjk2gn42h/2014-10-09%2008.50.40.png?dl=0) (slightly modified link because of forum rules, just take out the _) I'm using the "apply update from sdcard" option, then I browse to the SuperSU.zip -file and apply it. Then it starts installation, but aborts it in a few seconds. So am I booting to just a normal recovery mode and not CWM? (Sorry if all this seems totally ignorant, I have only flashed roms before, never rooted a new device)
leripe said:
UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip and you mean this when you talk about update.zip?
And I hope you are using the install zip from sdcard option and the choose zip from sdcard option?
Boot to cmw.
Install zip from sdcard.
Choose zip from sdcard.
browse to your supersu zip and apply.
Now I also update the first post's guide, so you can check that out too.
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Yup.. This is the problem. The recovery runs fine from Flash Tool and claims it installs it. (Download ok) But I still don't seem to have CWM on the device. It's just normal recovery mode. So any ideas about the CWM-installation? What could possibly go wrong? I get no error messages. Cheers.
//Mike
Mrosenho said:
Thanks for the help so far. But now I'm starting to doubt that the CWM install went successfully. Let me show you a picture of my screen after a failed install of the UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip -file. (ht_tps://ww_w.dropb_ox.com/s/1wrnatzjk2gn42h/2014-10-09%2008.50.40.png?dl=0) (slightly modified link because of forum rules, just take out the _) I'm using the "apply update from sdcard" option, then I browse to the SuperSU.zip -file and apply it. Then it starts installation, but aborts it in a few seconds. So am I booting to just a normal recovery mode and not CWM? (Sorry if all this seems totally ignorant, I have only flashed roms before, never rooted a new device)
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thanks ...
It is work fine for me on a3500 fl with 4.4.2 ver a442_01_26_140911_se
Mrosenho said:
Yup.. This is the problem. The recovery runs fine from Flash Tool and claims it installs it. (Download ok) But I still don't seem to have CWM on the device. It's just normal recovery mode. So any ideas about the CWM-installation? What could possibly go wrong? I get no error messages. Cheers.
//Mike
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Same for me, what about this @leripe ?
EDIT// Oh, It's working now, tried to flash it one more time, then I held a power button until Lenovo logo appeared and then I pressed Vol UP and Vol DOWN and the CWM came in, thank you! Now my tablet is finally rooted

successful root, ongoing problem installing a recovery

yesterday i successfully rooted my Tab 4 using CF Root matissewifi-matissewifizs-smt530 - then spent the entire remainder of the day trying to understand the difference between 'recovery mode' and 'ROM' and 'recovery' 'img', 'tar', 'zip' and 'nandroid' and backup and TWRP the app and TWRP the recovery and Rom Manager and Clockworkmod and why the apps don't want to download the roms I want and why my Tab 4 10.1 isn't listed in the TWRP devices so...
i attempted to install a recovery in about 50 different ways and got my Tab stuck in reboot loop about 50 times -
WHEN I DID get what i thought was TWRP (or GooIm-whatever) to download the correct recovery and reboot into the proper recovery mode i ALWAYS saw the usual recovery options: Reboot, something using ADP, something using external, Factory Reset, wipe cache, something using cache.
nothing related to TWRP or ANY custom recovery.
I'm not quite sure that all of the directions i can ever find about how to do this are written on the assumption that the user knows half of what's going on here. there are some of us who do NOT know what "Flash" means, and other terminology.
******* Can someone please tell me what i need to do to install ANY custom recovery so that I CAN create a Nandroid Backup?
I'm trying to install the new Magazine UX theme or whatever it is. (apparently this replaces the TouchWiz theme? Mine came with TouchWiz?)
glennnall said:
yesterday i successfully
rooted my Tab 4 using CF Root matissewifi-matissewifizs-smt530 - then spent the entire remainder of the day trying to understand the difference between 'recovery mode' and 'ROM' and 'recovery' 'img', 'tar', 'zip' and 'nandroid' and backup and TWRP the app and TWRP the recovery and Rom Manager and Clockworkmod and why the apps don't want to download the roms I want and why my Tab 4 10.1 isn't listed in the TWRP devices so...
i attempted to install a recovery in about 50 different ways and got my Tab stuck in reboot loop about 50 times -
WHEN I DID get what i thought was TWRP (or GooIm-whatever) to download the correct recovery and reboot into the proper recovery mode i ALWAYS saw the usual recovery options: Reboot, something using ADP, something using external, Factory Reset, wipe cache, something using cache.
nothing related to TWRP or ANY custom recovery.
I'm not quite sure that all of the directions i can ever find about how to do this are written on the assumption that the user knows half of what's going on here. there are some of us who do NOT know what "Flash" means, and other terminology.
******* Can someone please tell me what i need to do to install ANY custom recovery so that I CAN create a Nandroid Backup?
I'm trying to install the new Magazine UX theme or whatever it is. (apparently this replaces the TouchWiz theme? Mine came with TouchWiz?)
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Follow these instructions and you will have a custom recovery installed on your SM-T530. Yes I know the title of the post is root your tablet, but this is accomplished by installing a custom recovery. Nobody here is going to take much pity on you for not understanding the terminology, we all took it upon ourselves to learn it at some point or another, it just kind of comes with the territory. XDA University can be very helpful if you feel lost or overwhelmed
thanks -
2 of the problems i encountered yesterday were:
Run Odin. Disable the "Auto-Reboot" and "Re-Partition" options... Auto Reboot and F-Reset options were grayed-out, unchangeable.
Connect tablet via USB. Hit AP button in Odin, select the TWRP tar file... there IS no AP button, just the PDA button. everything else is grayed-out (i ran it as Admin)
not optimum conditions for new people who are TRYING to learn how this stuff works. (I'm a Web programmer and not incapable of grasping Android technology, assuming i'm reading from the correct 'literature'.) The link looks promising - but these hurdles need to be crossed first.
yesterday, CF Auto Root installed SuperSU already, so i don't know which of the following promising instructions to follow... can i just run these instructions on top of my rooted device and get the newer SuperSu, recovery etc?
glennnall said:
thanks -
2 of the problems i encountered yesterday were:
Run Odin. Disable the "Auto-Reboot" and "Re-Partition" options... Auto Reboot and F-Reset options were grayed-out, unchangeable.
Connect tablet via USB. Hit AP button in Odin, select the TWRP tar file... there IS no AP button, just the PDA button. everything else is grayed-out (i ran it as Admin)
not optimum conditions for new people who are TRYING to learn how this stuff works. (I'm a Web programmer and not incapable of grasping Android technology, assuming i'm reading from the correct 'literature'.) The link looks promising - but these hurdles need to be crossed first.
yesterday, CF Auto Root installed SuperSU already, so i don't know which of the following promising instructions to follow... can i just run these instructions on top of my rooted device and get the newer SuperSu, recovery etc?
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Yes this will install safely over your current configuration. PDA button is the correct option, on newer versions of Odin it is renamed AP, sorry. You should be using at least Odin 3.07
Since you're already rooted, you shouldn't have to worry about the auto reboot, but do install that newer version of superSU at some point, it's designed for lollipop, works better than old versions.
can I run this on top of my rooted Tab, or do i need to "unroot" it?
yesterday, CF Auto Root installed SuperSU already, so i don't know which of these following instructions to follow... can i just run all of these instructions on top of my rooted device and get the newer SuperSu, recovery etc?
sorry, reposted in my impatience. thanks for the help.
ok, great - worked as advertised.
SuperSU updated normal, reboot, now i'm sitting on "Samsung" ... hmmm...

Root, recovery and custom rom setup for Galaxy S5 (SM-G900I)

Hi all,
How are you?
I've been looking at these forums for most of the day, though am still quite confused. If someone could assist to clarify it would be much appreciated (as I would like to avoid to brick my phone).
I'm currently running Stock Android, Marshmallow version 6.0.1 with the 1 November 2016 Security Patch.
The model of my phone SM-G900I (Australian edition).
So I've come across the following links with the instructions on how to root and install recovery, though quite confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2699648
Recovery Query?
I understand that you need to download the Samsung Drivers and Odin.
I've downloaded the TWRP files for my phone - twrp-3.0.2-2-klte.img.tar and twrp-3.0.2-2-klte.img.tar.asc
Do I need to use the twrp-3.0.2-2-klte.img.tar.asc file at all?
Root Query
Is the towelroot method of rooting the S5 still relevant. The reason I ask, is that when I had posted an initial question on the XDA assist, I was advised that this may not work.
If the towelroot method is no longer relevant, would the CF-Autoroot method below work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2696537
If neither of the above methods work I have seen mentions of "flashing root" via TWRP.
Are there any known instructions on how to do that on XDA or any other website?
Or is it just a matter of obtaining the superSU zip file from https://download.chainfire.eu/696/supersu/ and flashing it?
The other information seems straight forward re using the Samsung Tool to backing up the device and the EFS .
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
just flash the .img file in download mode, and dont use the asc file at all. also dont use twrp 3.0.2-2, just use 3.0.2 (not 3.0.2-1 or 3.0.2-2 as they can be pretty buggy). Towelroot has long since become irrelevant back in the 5.0 days unfortunately so all you need to do is find the appropriate supersu.zip file and put it on your phones sd card (either internal or external), boot into recovery an install that zip via TWRP then reboot. Should be good to go. The classic "root via recovery" method
Paul_Lunardi said:
Hi all,
How are you?
I've been looking at these forums for most of the day, though am still quite confused. If someone could assist to clarify it would be much appreciated (as I would like to avoid to brick my phone).
Recovery Query?
I understand that you need to download the Samsung Drivers and Odin.
I've downloaded the TWRP files for my phone - twrp-3.0.2-2-klte.img.tar and twrp-3.0.2-2-klte.img.tar.asc
Do I need to use the twrp-3.0.2-2-klte.img.tar.asc file at all?
Root Query
Is the towelroot method of rooting the S5 still relevant. The reason I ask, is that when I had posted an initial question on the XDA assist, I was advised that this may not work.
If the towelroot method is no longer relevant, would the CF-Autoroot method below work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2696537
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1. Plug in your phone and let the drivers load.
If phone unrecognized then head to Playstore you can find loads of apps for drivers
2.unplug your phone and turn it off
3.Load odin.
Some versions of Odin are outdated. So watch for that.
4.Holding your turned off phone. Hold the volume down power and home buttons. Done correctly it should bring you to a page saying custom Roms can damage your blah blah. Volume up to continue down to reboot. Plug your phone in then Push volume up if you feel ready to Join us Oh Padawan.
Now I am sorry for the lengthy information, most likely you have already gotten to this point, but I just want to make the same page for you and future readers. No point in asking a bunch of potentially irrelevant questions when one explanation is sufficient.
5. Odin should find your phone which will be represented by a lit up colored square on the left side indicating a Com:value# which number is of little consequence just tells you which port it found it at. Do not dwell on this.
6. Using an extraction program such as .7z take your CF auto root .Tar file, not the .Asc, and extract. You should be able to find an file with ap in the extension.
7.Take the path from the URL bar of this window including the name of the ap file and copy it over to Odin. In Odin you will see the place to put it is represented by AP.
8. CLICK START AND WAIT WITH JEOPARDY MUSIC.
9. IT MAY REBOOT A FEW TIMES BUT UNTIL IT SAYS success OR FAIL IN ODIN DO NOT TOUCH.
10. Repeat steps 7-9 for twrp.img
10. Now taking this was a success turn your phone off. Unplug and holding volume UP power and home Gets you into twrp recovery. If all is well you can reboot into system. Ignore the kernel warning.
^^^^^ theres the long explanation LoL ^^^^^^^^ i disagree with step 9, but meh
Hi all,
Thanks for the detailed instructions.
So it appears that you can perform the task in 2 ways, ie
* By initially flashing TWRP first using Odin (whilst phone is in download mode), then running the TWRP and then copying over the supersu file to the sd card, then flashing this.
Or alternatively, following the above steps which first
* roots the phone by using Odin within download mode and the "cf auto root" file. Then once again using odin and flashing the TWRP file via odin.
This is my understanding.
Please let me know if I've misunderstood, otherwise thanks all. I'll be giving it a try soon.
My eventual goal is to install the Resurrection Remix Rom, so fingers crossed.
Paul_Lunardi said:
Hi all,
Thanks for the detailed instructions.
So it appears that you can perform the task in 2 ways, ie
* By initially flashing TWRP first using Odin (whilst phone is in download mode), then running the TWRP and then copying over the supersu file to the sd card, then flashing this.
Or alternatively, following the above steps which first
* roots the phone by using Odin within download mode and the "cf auto root" file. Then once again using odin and flashing the TWRP file via odin.
This is my understanding.
Please let me know if I've misunderstood, otherwise thanks all. I'll be giving it a try soon.
My eventual goal is to install the Resurrection Remix Rom, so fingers crossed.
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the cf auto root file usually isnt necessary, nor is flashing supersu really as the newer twrps have the root function built right in. Itll ask you if you want to enable superuser rights the first time you boot into it. Just swipe right and its rooted. Alternatively, flashing supersu from within twrp or the cf auto root also work. CF is the acronym for the dev ChainFire, he is the man (or she, and conversely "the woman" or whatever LOL)!! But the crux of what you need is twrp installed, from there youre usually set. Get rooted, make a nand of your stock setup and flash away. Also, id make sure to download the stock tar.md5 file of your phones firmware in case all goes awry (or to hell in a handbasket or enter clever euphemism for stuff going bad here) so you can flash the stock tarball in Odin if you get stuck in an endless bootloop and your stock restore file doesnt work. Also, when resoring from AOSP to TouchWiz or vice versa, does require a few boxes to be checked for it to work, but it happens all the time. Happy flashing and feel free to ask away if you run into anything man!
Thanks all for clarifying.
I did have some difficulties along the way though I did successfully install twrp.
So I downloaded one of the latest versions of odin on mums computer. Laiche the twrp tar file in the ap section. Loaded it then restarted the device. Ran recovery though it was still the default android recovery ie it appeared as though nothing had changed. I looked at another forum which suggested to turn ooff the auto reboot option in odin and perform a battery pull and then launch directly into twrp. This actually worked after much agony.
I then loaded a superuser zip and flashed it onto the phone.
Rebooted confirmed that the phone was rooted.
I then relaunched the twrp recovery and ran a nand? backup of my device. Then I attempted to install a custom rom ie resurrection remix. Unfortunately it did load though the screen appeared to freeze after boot and was therefore unusable. Thank goodness the restoring of the backup worked.
I'll reattempt the installation of a custom rom very soon. Fingers crossed.
Thanks.

[Guide]How to Root Your Pixel 3a and Install Magisk - Android 9 - 12

Edit - just an FYI for complete transparency. I have moved from the Pixel 3a XL to the Pixel 6. I no longer own my Pixel 3a XL. While I've been told (thanks @AndDiSa) that the root process for Android 12 is the same as it historically has been, I no longer can test things myself. (The root process for the Pixel 6 is different and more complicated than this phone). If you run into any problems or issues, please post in this thread and someone will hopefully be able to answer them.
I'm assuming you understand how to use ADB on your computer. If you need assistance with installing or using ADB, please refer to this XDA article for more information. However, here are some common issues that people have with ADB if it doesn't work initially for you. 1) Check the Android System Notification that appears in your phone's notifications after you plug in your USB cord. Your phone probably defaults to "No data transfer" and you need to change it to "file transfer" to allow the phone to connect. 2) Make sure you have USB debugging turned on in the Settings/System (advanced)/Developer options. 3) If this is your first time using this phone/computer combination, you will have to accept the connection when it pops up on your phone.
You also need an unlocked bootloader to complete these steps. If you need assistance with unlocking your bootloader, here is decent set of instructions. Those instructions are based on the Pixel 3 phone, but the steps are the same for the 3a devices.
Here are the official Magisk installation instructions. I will walk through them to help everyone understand them. Please note that while TWRP does work with Android 9 (Pie), it does not work currently with Android 10 or 11. If you are still on Pie for some reason you can choose either installation option, but if you have moved to a later Android version, you must use the "Boot Image Patching" installation method.
Custom Recovery Installation Method - (available for Android Version 9/Pie only because TWRP does not work currently with the Android 10/11)
This is the easier installation method IMHO, but it does require using TWRP. If you don't know how to get TWRP for the Pixel 3a, please refer to the official TWRP for Pixel 3a thread
Step 1 - Download and install the Magisk manager app on your phone. (link to the latest stable version can be found here).
Step 2 - Using the Magisk manager app, select "Install Magisk" and select the "Download Zip Only" option. This simply downloads the installation zip to your phone's download folder. It doesn't attempt to install anything.
Step 3 - Boot into TWRP - (because TWRP is not permanent on the stock Pie OS, we must follow these instructions each time we want to boot into TWRP).
Step 3a - Download the latest TWRP image for the 3a to your computer (not your phone) from the official TWRP for 3a thread.​Step 3b - Connect to your phone via ADB on your computer. You should see the device listed if you type the command "adb devices".​Step 3c - Boot your phone into the bootloader (type the command "adb reboot bootloader").​Step 3d - Boot into TWRP using this command, "fastboot boot twrp-3.x.x-x.img" (where "twrp-3.x.x-x.img" = whatever the name of the TWRP download is). Please note you are not using the "flash" command as we are not permanently installing TWRP.​Step 4 - Once the device boots into TWRP, select "Install" and then find the Magisk.zip download from step 2. Swipe to confirm the installation
Step 5 - After the installation is complete, simply reboot system.
Step 6 - Enjoy your rooted phone and install any Magisk modules that appeal to you
Step 7 - Be sure to turn off the "Automatic System Updates" setting found in Developer settings (Settings /System (advanced) /Developer Options). This will prevent the phone from automatically installing an OTA update and instead allow you to follow the steps listed under the "Taking an OTA Update" section below
The Boot Image Patching Installation method - (the only method currently available under Android 10, 11 or 12, but it also works with Pie).
Use this method if you are on Android 10 or 11 or you are on Android 9/Pie but you don't want to or can't use TWRP.
Step 1 - Obtain a stock boot.img file for the OS version/update that you are currently on. The easiest method is probably to download the applicable full stock image directly from Google. Unzip the files and unzip the second folder and you should find the boot.img file inside.
Step 2 - Copy the stock boot.img file to your phone's storage - probably to /sdcard or to /sdcard/downloads
Step 3 - Download and install the Magisk manager app on your phone. (link to the latest version can be found here). If you are early in the Android 12 cycle, you probably need to use a Canary build of Magisk.
Step 4 - Using the Magisk manager app, press "Install --> Install --> Select and Patch a File" - select the stock boot.img file that you put on your phone in step 2.
Step 5 - Magisk will modify the stock boot.img file and create a patched boot image file. It will save this modified file at "sdcard/Download/magisk_patched.img"
Step 6 - Connect to your phone via ADB on your computer. You should see the device listed if you type the command "adb devices".
Step 7 - Copy the patched boot image from your device to your PC and the adb folder. If you can’t find the file on your phone via MTP or Windows Explorer, you can pull the file by typing the command "adb pull /sdcard/Download/magisk_patched.img" - Please note, I would suggest double checking the "file modified date" prior to moving the file. Be sure to only move the file if it was last modified on the date you are doing this. I've had a strange situation before where the newly modified file didn't immediately show up and the file showed a modified date of the previous month. If you flash an old version, your phone will bootloop.
Step 8 - Boot your phone into the bootloader (type the command "adb reboot bootloader").
Step 9 - Flash the patched boot image to your device using this command, "fastboot flash boot magisk_patched.img"
Step 10 - Reboot (using command "fastboot reboot").
Step 11 - Enjoy your rooted phone and install any Magisk modules that appeal to you
Step 12 - Be sure to turn off the "Automatic System Updates" setting found in Developer settings (Settings /System (advanced) /Developer Options). This will prevent the phone from automatically installing an OTA update and instead allow you to follow the steps listed next.......
Taking an OTA update in the future (if you used this method to install Magisk).
Taking OTA updates is very easy with the Pixel devices because of their A/B partition system. It allows us to uninstall Magisk, take the OTA update, and reinstall Magisk - all from the phone and all without rebooting during the process. Here are the offical Magisk OTA instructions. I will go through the steps to help explain them.
Step 1 - In the Magisk manager app: Click “Uninstall” then “restore images”. DO NOT REBOOT or press the reboot button.
Step 2 - Download and install OTA (in your phone's Settings/System/System Update). DO NOT REBOOT or press the reboot button.
Step 3 - Open the Magisk manager app and click “Install” next to Magisk (usually it says "Magisk is up to date") then “Install to second/inactive slot (After OTA)”
Step 4 - Press the Reboot button in Magisk.
That should be all it takes to install an OTA and keep root.
Please note, we are getting reports that users are getting notifications that an OTA update has been installed even when they have "Automatic Updates" turned off. If this happens to you, don't reboot the phone which is suppose to be the final step in the update process. Instead, follow the above instructions on taking an OTA update, but start in step 3. In other words, you shouldn't have to uninstall Magisk because the update has already been installed. All you need to do is install Magisk to the "second/inactive slot (After OTA)”. After completing that step, you can reboot your phone to complete the update process. Be sure to post your experiences in this thread to let us know if this process works or not.
Just remember that many custom parts (like kernels and Magisk modules) may need to be updated to any new OTA version. Please be sure to check out the forums for each custom kernel or module that you may want to install to ensure it has been updated to the lastest OS version. Don't assume anything or you may find yourself in a bootloop.
If you find yourself in a bootloop after upgrading an already rooted phone
If you find yourself in a bootloop after updating to a new OS version and flashing the magisk_modified boot.img again, it is likely due to an installed Magisk module not being compatible with the new update. To uninstall all Magisk modules to fix the bootloop, follow these steps:
Step 1 - Connect your phone to the computer you use ADB on.
Step 2 - In ADB type the command "adb wait-for-device shell magisk --remove-modules"
Step 3 - Start your phone again or wait for it to go through another bootloop cycle.
Step 4 - as soon as ADB is available (which occurs even during a bootloop) the command will activate, the modules will be removed, and the phone will reboot.
If the normal OTA method isn't working - sideload the OTA update
Taking an OTA update should be as easy as the above instructions. However there is another option available to install an OTA update called sideloading. Sometimes the update doesn't appear on the phone in a timely manner and you may want to manually install the update. Other times the OTA update seems to fail for some reason. In the end, you may decide to sideload the OTA instead of trying get it via the update feature on the phone. Surprisingly, it's actually faster to install the update via sideloading than it will be to take the OTA normally. I'll walk through the sideloading steps.....
Optional Step 1 - Uninstall Magisk (so that it restores the stock boot.img). If you find yourself unable to boot into recovery, you will have to restore the stock boot.img. I've run into this issue on a couple Android 10 images, but most do not require this step.
Step 2 - Download to your computer the correct OTA image from here
Step 3 - Connect to your phone via ADB on your computer. You should see the device listed if you type the command "adb devices".
Step 4 - Boot your phone into recovery (type the command "adb reboot recovery").
Step 5 - The phone will have a green android robot with a red sign over it's open access panel. Press the power button and then the volume up button while still holding down the power button.
Step 6 - Select "Apply update from ADB" using the volume buttons to highlight the choice and the power button to select it to enter the sideload mode.
Step 7 - Using your computer, type "adb sideload ota_file.zip" where ota_file.zip is the name of the OTA file you downloaded in step 2.
Step 8 - Once the update finishes, reboot the phone to complete the update process. (See note below about initial boot times).
Step 9 - To obtain root again, please use one of the two root methods listed above
Please note, while the initial boot is usually pretty quick, it can take longer. I've occasionally seen the process take upwards of 20 minutes and longer. I think part of the reason it can take so long is that sometimes it optimizes the apps during this boot process. The more apps you have, the longer the process may take. When you take an regular OTA update, the phone will change to a screen where is specifically tells you it is optimizing the apps and counts up as the apps are optimized to give you status updates. When you use the side-load method, it all happens with just the regular boot animation running and without any status updates. Because of this, it is easy to assume something has gone wrong with the boot process while in fact the phone is working through the process normally. If it isn't boot looping (showing the initial power screen before moving back to the boot animation), everything is fine and you just need be patient and let the phone complete the process.
My rant about using these "Pre-patched Boot image" files
I started this thread during a period of time where there was a another thread on this forum started by pbanj that showed users how to root their phone by using some pre-patched boot image files. This method is not the generally accepted method and while it works, there are major shortcomings with it (see explanation below). Because it was the only root thread available at the time and he only showed the "pre-patched boot image" method, many people blindly followed his directions only to be confused when it came time to update the software on their phones. I wrote this thread in an effort to show people the official Magisk installation method. Pbanj has since updated his thread and it now includes the preferred method as well. With his edits, the two threads are sharing the same information now, although Pbanj thread still offers people the "pre-patched boot image" method (which I don't recommend people using).
EDIT - Yet another thread pushing a pre-patched root method has been started. It suffers the same issues as listed below.
Shortcomings with using the "pre-patched boot image" method.
As I already mentioned, there is a huge shortcoming with using the "pre-patched boot image" method described in the other root thread. Because he provides a pre-patched boot.img file, you skip some normal installation steps. In the end you have the exact same patched file (which is why his method works), but you cripple the system when it comes to taking any future OTA. That's because the first step in taking an OTA update is having Magisk reflash the stock boot.img effectively uninstalling itself. This step fails if you used his pre-patched boot image method because you skip the step where Magisk creates the backup of the stock boot.img that it needs to uninstall itself.
I already used the "pre-patched boot image" method to gain root. What can I do?
First, let me clarify and say that there is nothing wrong with your phone or root privileges. Your phone will work exactly as expected and root and Magisk will work exactly as expected. That being said, in the near future you will want to update your phone to the latest Android update and this is where the "pre-patched boot image" method is much more cumbersome. The best option is to simply undo his root method and re-root using the method described above. To do this, flash the correct stock boot.img file to your boot partition and then follow the steps above to reinstall Magisk. Jbanj has confirmed this method will work. The other option is just wait until you need to take an update and then sideload the OTA update following the instructions above. This will remove root and you can then follow one of the two methods to obtain root as outlined in this thread.
Notes
- Please be sure you are on the latest adb and drivers which can be found here.
- You do not need to keep the stock boot.img file (from step 2 of the Boot Image Patching method) on your phone after completing these steps. Magisk saves the stock boot.img backup at /root/data in a file with the name "stock_boot_XXXXXXXXXXXX.img.gz"
Thanks to.......
@ZVNexus for getting TWRP working on the 3a and 3a XL phones
@topjohnwu for making Magisk what it is today
Made it to step 7/8, went to reboot, and entered bootloop. Not sure exactly what happened, gonna fix this and give it another go.
EDIT: Should I be flashing in fastboot or recovery mode?
EDIT 2: Working! Thanks!
You know there are more ways to skin a cat, right? This is another method to acquire root. I don't think you need to bash the work that pbanj has done. He provides modified boot.img and also offers help on getting it working. I think acting like your method is the only acceptable way to gain root is extremely pompous and arrogant.
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You know there are more ways to skin a cat, right? This is another method to acquire root. I don't think you need to bash the work that pbanj has done. He provides modified boot.img and also offers help on getting it working. I think acting like your method is the only acceptable way to gain root is extremely pompous and arrogant.
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I don't think that this method is the only way to get root, nor is this "my method". It is however the method spelled out by the Magisk developers and it is the only method that uses Magisk strengths when trying to take an OTA update.. I'll simply leave it at that......
sic0048 said:
I don't think that this method is the only way to get root, nor is this "my method". It is however the method spelled out by the Magisk developers and it is the only method that uses Magisk strengths when trying to take an OTA update.. I'll simply leave it at that......
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Sure. It's the way I do it also. But show some class and don't call out other, helpful members in this fashion and crap all over what they do. I have seen your posts and know your a helpful members also, let's respect each other and be classy.
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@sic0048
Thank you. I got to admit it was pretty tense for a while. Thanks to you I made it. Had to do a sideload, had to do some stupid things but I made it. Now, I got through all the steps and I have two items; Having done this transition can I now do the magisk-uninstall-restore images for all future OTAs and is step 9 performing the magisk install process a second time?
Bankuu said:
Made it to step 7/8, went to reboot, and entered bootloop. Not sure exactly what happened, gonna fix this and give it another go.
EDIT: Should I be flashing in fastboot or recovery mode?
EDIT 2: Working! Thanks!
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I've edited the steps and added a few more going into greater detail to try and make it even clearer for users. Let me know if you have any suggestions.
alliance1975 said:
@sic0048
Thank you. I got to admit it was pretty tense for a while. Thanks to you I made it. Had to do a sideload, had to do some stupid things but I made it. Now, I got through all the steps and I have two items; Having done this transition can I now do the magisk-uninstall-restore images for all future OTAs and is step 9 performing the magisk install process a second time?
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You should be able to use the normal Magisk OTA update instructions for future updates.
I've updated the thread and I think the "step 9" you listed isn't the same anymore, but I think I understand your question. Actually I think my original instructions were inaccurate as far as that step. I've always gone back into Magisk after flashing the modified boot.img and I thought I hit install to install the Magisk framework (if that is the correct term). But after reading some other guides, I think my memory is incorrect and you don't really have to install anything after the flashing portion of the steps.
Once you reboot after flashing, that should be all you have to do. I'll uninstall Magisk here in a while and walk through the steps myself to ensure this is correct howeve.
The OP should be made a sticky.
Cool guide. Can the method be applied to Q beta 4 ?
MPAI said:
Cool guide. Can the method be applied to Q beta 4 ?
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No root for Android q on our devices yet afaik.
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@sic0048
Should we keep the stock boot image copied to the phone storage in step 2? Is this where Magisk will look for it to do an image restore?
alliance1975 said:
@sic0048
Should we keep the stock boot image copied to the phone storage in step 2? Is this where Magisk will look for it to do an image restore?
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You do not need to keep the stock boot image that was copied over in step 2. Magisk saves the backup of the boot.img at /root/data. It will have the name "stock_boot_XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.img.gz"
sic0048 said:
You do not need to keep the stock boot image that was copied over in step 2. Magisk saves the backup of the boot.img at /root/data. It will have the name "stock_boot_XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.img.gz"
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Thanks sic0048. You put up with my dumb questions and helped make my pixel 3a a great phone.
Respect.
Edited - now that jbanj has confirmed we can simply flash the stock boot.img file to the boot partition and start over, the post I originally had here is pointless.
Alliance's question got me to thinking.....
Since Magisk saves the stock boot.img backup at /root/data in a file named "stock_boot_XXXXXXXXXXXX.img.gz" I wonder if we can't simply share a backup file with someone that used jbanj "modified boot image" method and have them copy it to that location. I suspect Magisk will then allow the normal OTA update prceedures to work.
I can share the backup file that I have, but it is for the 3a XL model, Android version 9 (Pie) and the June 5, 2019 security update. That means it will be next month before there will be another OTA update pushed out.
If someone is still on the OEM March update and rooted using the normal directions and is willing to share their backup file, we might be able to try it sooner.
Unfortunately I don't know if Magisk modifies the backup to be some sort of unique file. I doubt it, but I don't know for sure. Of course worse case scenario is that it doesn't work and the person has to flash the OTA manually - which is no different than what they would have to do anyway. So there really isn't much risk in trying this.
MPAI said:
Cool guide. Can the method be applied to Q beta 4 ?
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Wondering the same thing. I know the OTA is rolling out again today IIRC. But I also read something about root not being available on Q yet, so not sure how that would work out.
Bankuu said:
Wondering the same thing. I know the OTA is rolling out again today IIRC. But I also read something about root not being available on Q yet, so not sure how that would work out.
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Google has changed the file structure in the Q beta 4 release and root is not possible at this time. This is true across all devices (not just the Pixel 3a). I know John Wu (the Magisk developer) is working on a solution and I would expect to see results before Android 10 is released, but only time will tell.
However, at this time there is no root on the Q beta 4. If you need root, you will have to stick to Pie for now.
@sic0048 I've updated my thread
I'm getting weird behavior here that I've been able to replicate.
Bottom line, if you use the Magisk patch method, upon flashing that boot image, your phone will auto-play music every single time it boots up. That's incredibly annoying.
Uninstall and go back to stock boot.img, and it goes away. Flash again, it's right back.
Guess I'll just wait for TWRP instead of going through those steps again, lol.

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