I saw this tweet
https://twitter.com/carjoying/status/673061917242564608
I can't seem to find any additional info. I just bought the currently available one so I'm really interested to see if this new one is updated android and PX4 Rockchip.
Anyone know more?
I like the higher volume button. Out of the way.
I also just had an interaction with Joying where they indicated they will have an universal 10" single din model like their VW model ready in 2 weeks.
So from my reading of Joying's stereos, these are all basically the same, but with a differently designed front on them? I see the same Android version, processor and specs on every one, really. I'm asking because I'm curious about getting one and am a little overwhelmed with options that all seem about the same.
There are different cpu specs and resolutions. Some of the units are car specific due to some integrations like the VW units with can-bus showing heat and a/c info etc. If they have a unit that is specific for your can then it probably has a nice faceplate on it. Otherwise there are the universal units.
I consider to get one for my car, so I have to wait for new version
how are teh joying units, they got them on amazon which is abig plus if theres any issues
Cool! Thanks for sharing. Have an older model and it has been pretty solid so far. Might pick up a new one for the spare car Hopefully the Bluetooth quality is fixed with the updated unit.
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I saw this tweet
I can't seem to find any additional info. I just bought the currently available one so I'm really interested to see if this new one is updated android and PX4 Rockchip.
Anyone know more?
I like the higher volume button. Out of the way.
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The 2015 model is now on their website and amazon too for $330ish.... XDA won't let me post the link right now cuz I never post.....
There's also a forum about upgrading the unit to 5.1 with software provided by Joying... I may have to order one now...
The new ones are not out yet. A few days ago they let me know the 10.1" universal unit is coming in the next week or two.
Many units on their site say 2015.
Is 1gb fast enough for these units?
I have not had any issues with mine
Plenty responsive. Boots up quick too.
what about bluetooth and wifi quality? Are hardware mods still required with these unit?
I don't know about the newest model being released, but the Bluetooth quality with the model I have does have a hint of distortion. I use a hotspot on my phone without any signal problems, so can't speak to the signal strength with trying to connect to a wifi access point.
How are they selling a 10" model? What car would that ever fit in without huge customization of the entire dash panel?
Bought it
http://www.carjoying.com/special-sa...pport-airplay-mirror-link-reserve-camera.html
why are they releasing new models with still 4.4.4 and 1gb RAM?
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why are they releasing new models with still 4.4.4 and 1gb RAM?
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I was thinking the same thing... Also, rk3188 is getting old. Most of the Android TV boxes have moved onto newer processors and Android.
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Proven and more or less stable., abundant and inexpensive. Parts on hand. Also, when the new new board show up its not hard to simply swap them.
Sure, we want new and better every week. I'm happy to have this form factor now rather than waiting for 5.1.. Simple upgrade later.
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Proven and more or less stable., abundant and inexpensive. Parts on hand. Also, when the new new board show up its not hard to simply swap them.
Sure, we want new and better every week. I'm happy to have this form factor now rather than waiting for 5.1.. Simple upgrade later.
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This is not about wanting new every week...KitKat is 2 and half years old...Lollipop has been out for a year an a half....Lollipop should be the bare minimum when they ship devices these days, ....and 1gb RAM on any device in the year 2016 is just plain insulting.
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This is not about wanting new every week...KitKat is 2 and half years old...Lollipop has been out for a year an a half....Lollipop should be the bare minimum when they ship devices these days, ....and 1gb RAM on any device in the year 2016 is just plain insulting.
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Respectfully, I think you are being a little naive. Many of the manufacturers are working on the next full iteration of chips and 5.1 or 6 OS versions, but do you see many yet? It only takes a card swap on the head unit to change the SOC... and really the SOC and Android version has nothing to do with most of the hardware of these headunits. Take a look at the wide range of products a company like Joying offers. Pretty slick range of OEM looking faceplates and integrations with CAN bus etc. Truthfully, many of these companies are limited by what Rockchip and the subs provide for them.
You should definitely feel personally insulted. What were they thinking?! How could they develop a product without consulting devoidx?! :silly:
It doesn't seem like it's possible to find something with Android 5.1 (or later) and 2GB RAM. The only one I can find is the InDashNet unit except that one seems to still be in beta and buggy.
Doesn't anyone make something with 2GB RAM and a modern release of the OS? Getting real sick of my AppRadio issues, but I don't want to deal with the headache of 1GB RAM or an old OS.
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It doesn't seem like it's possible to find something with Android 5.1 (or later) and 2GB RAM. The only one I can find is the InDashNet unit except that one seems to still be in beta and buggy.
Doesn't anyone make something with 2GB RAM and a modern release of the OS? Getting real sick of my AppRadio issues, but I don't want to deal with the headache of 1GB RAM or an old OS.
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These are legitimate concerns, I've been reading the forums and still haven't come to any solid conclusions yet either.
Same for me. Checking this forum almost daily since several months now to see if something with Android 5.1+ and 2GB RAM comes out... I will probably not wait much longer and just order the InDashNet unit...
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I am sure I probably am over simplifying things here, but isn't there a way to add a bigger RAM chip to these things like a PC?
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It doesn't seem like it's possible to find something with Android 5.1 (or later) and 2GB RAM. The only one I can find is the InDashNet unit except that one seems to still be in beta and buggy.
Doesn't anyone make something with 2GB RAM and a modern release of the OS? Getting real sick of my AppRadio issues, but I don't want to deal with the headache of 1GB RAM or an old OS.
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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First listing doesn't specify which version of Android it is running. The second one says it's running 4.4. That's too old. I want 5.1 or later and 2GB RAM. That combination doesn't seem available.
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I am sure I probably am over simplifying things here, but isn't there a way to add a bigger RAM chip to these things like a PC?
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No you can't do that. It's all soldered in, not using DIMMs.
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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Ownice C200 offered 2GB of RAM, but their newest unit is the C300, and it went back to 1GB of RAM. not sure why, maybe they had problems with the 2GB
Why not grab one thats 4.4 and usually cheaper than 5.1 and just upgrade it ? I've seen them on aliexpress not many but some..
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Why not grab one thats 4.4 and usually cheaper than 5.1 and just upgrade it ? I've seen them on aliexpress not many but some..
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As far as I know, they are not upgradable to 5.1. Only if you do a hardware upgrade/downgrade to an MTCD mainboard with 1GB RAM you can upgrade to Android 5.1.
So it seems there is an incompatibility between 2GB and Android 5.1 or there is some software development necessary to allow this... I think I saw a statement from Joying that they are working on it...
There is no comparability issue with 2gigs of ram and Android 5.x
Its called cheap. They want to reduce the cost of the hardware.
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There is no comparability issue with 2gigs of ram and Android 5.x
Its called cheap. They want to reduce the cost of the hardware.
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Could you please point me to a specific unit. I cannot find any unit which has 2GB RAM and Android 5.x or upgradable to 5.x.
I am genuinely interested. Thanks.
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There is no comparability issue with 2gigs of ram and Android 5.x
Its called cheap. They want to reduce the cost of the hardware.
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my guess is it's a MCU limitation. I am pretty certain RAM would not be a software (android) limitation. But the MCU is effectively a black box on these things that impacts just about every aspect of overall functionality. And the fact that the MCU hacked together by chinese/indian engineers with very low R&D budgets, we have the issues we have today. Someone needs to open source the MCU and allow it to be fully customizable somehow. I imagine the community here could come up with some fantasic mods, such as digital audio out, support for better internal hardware, better bluetooth integration, etc.
I am surprised that for this long, nobody has managed to fully decode the MCU.
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my guess is it's a MCU limitation. I am pretty certain RAM would not be a software (android) limitation. But the MCU is effectively a black box on these things that impacts just about every aspect of overall functionality. And the fact that the MCU hacked together by chinese/indian engineers with very low R&D budgets, we have the issues we have today. Someone needs to open source the MCU and allow it to be fully customizable somehow. I imagine the community here could come up with some fantasic mods, such as digital audio out, support for better internal hardware, better bluetooth integration, etc.
I am surprised that for this long, nobody has managed to fully decode the MCU.
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They usually standard MCU chips. Someone would have to completely recode a working source. Which would be really impossible. I agree it would be nice to see one full MCU source code.
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Could you please point me to a specific unit. I cannot find any unit which has 2GB RAM and Android 5.x or upgradable to 5.x.
I am genuinely interested. Thanks.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Universal-For-Nissan/1333672_32707119098.html
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http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Universal-For-Nissan/1333672_32707119098.html
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They write RAM: 1G. Several times in the description.
The problem with sellers on Aliexpress is that they even confuse RAM and ROM and falsely write 2GB RAM in title although everywhere in the article it says RAM 1GB.
Any other suggestions?
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I wonder how come no one in the states has attempted their own Android head unit production. Why are we leaving it all to the Chinese? Why couldn't we produce our own hardware and mcu?
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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Ownice c200 is definitely only 4.4 at the moment.
We where promised an update but we still haven't had it.
Since then they released the c300 but it has only 1gb and still only 4.4
The reason they say it's only 1gb is it has a different cpu (not an rk chip like every other unit)
They still sell the c200 so i don't think they are dropping it.
Long story short. No 2gb lollipop at the moment. I've settled for 4.4 myself but i got my unit 18 months ago.
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I wonder how come no one in the states has attempted their own Android head unit production. Why are we leaving it all to the Chinese? Why couldn't we produce our own hardware and mcu?
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Too small of a market. Despite what you might gather from these forums, this is a very low quantity, niche market, and the active participants want things at rock bottom prices. US production costs, especially for such a small market, just aren't economically viable.
Honestly, If you aren't satisfied with the current crop of units (and I'm not), then your best bet is going to be some type of DIY project. I've got a Raspberry PI 3 and a SDR sitting on my workbench waiting to be worked on. You might also consider some variety of tablet install (I'm kind of torn between going this route and the rpi3).
But regardless of DIY, Chinese Headunit, whatever, this will ultimately boil down to software. Without a well thought out, extensible front end/UI, it will continue to be frustrating. Such software would be awesome if opensource, but I have my doubts. The in-dash-net units are supposed to be going that route, but I'm not holding my breath.
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But regardless of DIY, Chinese Headunit, whatever, this will ultimately boil down to software. Without a well thought out, extensible front end/UI, it will continue to be frustrating. Such software would be awesome if opensource, but I have my doubts. The in-dash-net units are supposed to be going that route, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The funny thing about the software, is that all the different specialized parts of the software actually exist already in open source. The biggest hurdle is actually handling a phone call. The "back end" of this process, bluetooth HFP-client profile, is available in AOSP. There is a "demo" application for actually managing that backend available in codeaurora.
Aside from that, you also have AM/FM radio to think about, but that is fairly simple.
Honestly, the biggest part of this problem is the hardware.
hello
I'm really debating between choosing the latest JOYING headunit (with the digital amplifier) and the PUMPKIN 7.1 android
does they have the external mic problem?
Is there any other recommended stable Chinese android head unit?
I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
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I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
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they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
+1 for Pumpkin, I've had the RQ0278E for a few months now, it's nice but it has its quirks. The Android 6.0 update made it better. Btw, I can't seem to get my DAC to work with it properly
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they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
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Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
What do you say about the OWNICE C500 ? are they another reseller ?
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Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
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I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
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I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
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Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
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Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
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The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
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The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
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I would not recommend an android unit for older parents that use an old simple nokia if the reasons are that a smart phone is too complicated. I believe they may have issues with the use of the unit and that could be a safety issue.
ATOTO Double DIN Android 6.0 is my choice
I am owning ATOTO Android 6.0 HU. When it comes to operation speed, ATOTO is the best. After PUMPKIN Android 7 released for 2 months, I checked a lot reviews about it. But I think that may slower than my ATOTO Android 6.0 system. So I will just keep Android 6.0
i want to buy unit that support video out (headrest monitors), i found 2 units that i think that is good and i dont know what to choose.
1. joying JY-UM135N2PX5 CPU: PX5 Octa core Cortex-A53 up to 1.5GHz
2. hizpo WJZ99GX - CPU: T8 2.0GHz (i think this is the model number)
most of the parameters are the same, exept the CPU
does anybody could recommend one of them or maybe another unit that i missed?
Yes, after long time research, I finally got ATOTO back with my 2003 Mazda Miata. So far so good. The screen responds faster than my wife's Joying. Good try！And it helped me save a lot money.
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No, ownice is a manufacturer, they use other hardware like the cpu from AutoChips.
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Hey there
I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
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In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
Anton TNT said:
If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
del_piero3 said:
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
Edit2 :
I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
del_piero3 said:
Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
Anton TNT said:
First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?