Downgrade from 7.1.1 to anything lower with a locked bootloader? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

In short, phone is stuck in a bootloop for no reason that I would know.
Out of warranty, so that option isn't available.
I really just need to get the bootloader unlocked, but I can't access the main screen.
I can access the recovery and bootloader, but when I tried doing an ota update through recovery, (even with NUF26K) it kept failing.
I need to be able to flash a full factory image, which is why I need the bootloader unlocked.
Thank you!

matistight said:
In short, phone is stuck in a bootloop for no reason that I would know.
Out of warranty, so that option isn't available.
I really just need to get the bootloader unlocked, but I can't access the main screen.
I can access the recovery and bootloader, but when I tried doing an ota update through recovery, (even with NUF26K) it kept failing.
I need to be able to flash a full factory image, which is why I need the bootloader unlocked.
Thank you!
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Hi... Did the bootloop came from nowhere or what were you doing when it happened?
What error do you get when you sideload the ota?
Tried formatting cache or factory reset?
Edit: You can't downgrade with a locked bootloader.

matistight said:
I can access the recovery and bootloader, but when I tried doing an ota update through recovery, (even with NUF26K) it kept failing.
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You will not be able to unlock the bootloader without booting the OS and entering Dev Options to allow "OEM Unlocking". Now that the 7.1.2 beta is out, that OTA is worth giving a shot. I'd certainly try the suggestions above if the beta OTA fails. If a factory reset does not work, you may be able to fastboot format userdata and cache and try the OTA route again.

v12xke said:
You will not be able to unlock the bootloader without booting the OS and entering Dev Options to allow "OEM Unlocking". Now that the 7.1.2 beta is out, that OTA is worth giving a shot. I'd certainly try the suggestions above if the beta OTA fails. If a factory reset does not work, you may be able to fastboot format userdata and cache and try the OTA route again.
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Completely gave up on this, but I will give you the error when I get home, it was somewhat contradicting.
I have a Oneplus X I am using now, but the screen size is killing my hands! Atleast I am not out a phone
Maybe there is a way to erase/corrupt the system and bootloader and ota with a 6.0.x? I didnt really like android N

matistight said:
Completely gave up on this, but I will give you the error when I get home, it was somewhat contradicting.
I have a Oneplus X I am using now, but the screen size is killing my hands! Atleast I am not out a phone
Maybe there is a way to erase/corrupt the system and bootloader and ota with a 6.0.x? I didnt really like android N
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If you erase or corrupt the bootloader then the phone is hard bricked (if it already isn't). I think you need an unlocked bootloader to do that anyways. Any flashing or erasing command in fastboot is going to need an unlocked bootloader. Even if you did somehow manage to delete the bootloader, without the phone being unlocked you can't flash a new one = hard brick.
If your phone is BL locked, you can't access Android, recovery doesn't help, you're mostly out of luck. Some people have said that using MSkips toolkit recovered their phones, but others had no such luck. There's a lot of people in the same boat as you. Others have tried calling Google about the issue despite their warranty status. Your phone is locked and a stock OTA took it out, from the sounds of it. Maybe they'll be willing to work with you. The worst they can do is say no, can't hurt to try. Good luck!

Why do you want to downgrade?

rchtk said:
Why do you want to downgrade?
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Never really like 7.x and it has been the only OS that has bricked my phone without being rooted.

Unfortunately you can neither use an OTA to downgrade nor flash a factory image without BL unlocked.
And I'm not sure that would help either. Your device corrupted itself for a reason and that might be the flash failing (which the Nougat update exhibited, but Nougat isn't the root cause probably). You could rather wait for a higher OTA and hope.
Any recovery log to post?
How old is the phone? 1 year?

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[Q] Upgrade Available - Rooting possible?

Mine says the upgrade to 4.5.141 is available to download. My Atrix is rooted with locked bootloader, I presuming I am going to lose root with the upgrade.
If so, what rooting method will work?
Thanks for your help.
PS: Will this worK?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
charlyee said:
Mine says the upgrade to 4.5.141 is available to download. My Atrix is rooted with locked bootloader, I presuming I am going to lose root with the upgrade.
If so, what rooting method will work?
Thanks for your help.
PS: Will this worK?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
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Just unlock your bootloader and flash a new ROM on your phone. Most of the ROMs available for our phone have that update or better already on the ROM.
Sent from Neutrino, a planet far, far away...
cwburns32 said:
Just unlock your bootloader and flash a new ROM on your phone. Most of the ROMs available for our phone have that update or better already on the ROM.
Sent from Neutrino, a planet far, far away...
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Thanks, but I don't want to take the route of custom ROMs, sorry.
I had to unlock my bootloader first using RSDlite and the small .sbf file (pudding.rar) Click here to download
My bootloader was supposed to be already unlocked but I guess the updated firmware didn't realize it. I couldn't run fastboot flash without getting an error
I then rooted by flashing preinstall.img and running commands to install the superuser binary and .apk. Instructions here
I don't know of a way to root 4.5.141 without unlocking the bootloader first. If you find a way let me know
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root should work.
lauterm said:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root should work.
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Same thing I used... different source. Still it requires an unlocked bootloader to flash images.
I believe the OP is looking for a root option that will work with a locked bootloader.
charlyee said:
Thanks, but I don't want to take the route of custom ROMs, sorry.
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Just wondering.. Why not? ;o
nthon9 said:
Just wondering.. Why not? ;o
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It's kind of a "Been there, done that" kind of thing from my Win Mob days. lol
I am pefectly happy with stock Atrix ROMs, and just want to be able to retain root or re root to use a couple of apps like Titanium Backup.
Has anyone with an unlocked bootloader/rooted Atrix tried the update?
I like to stick with the stock rom for now but I haven't found directions for updating to 141 yet. I'd like to keep root and not hard brick my Atrix...After the 2nd time Moto might get suspicious
I wasn't able to use the OTA updates once I rooted (even before I unlocked my bootloader). Of course, that could be Bell building in a check. I even tried unrooting (using GingerBreak) and that still wouldn't allow me to use an OTA update.
I would think you'll have to root, unlock bootloader, and then flash an firmware file from this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944.
Actually, you're right in that the OTA update will probably fail without me going to a more "out of the box" state. I suppose I'd have to first create a nandroid, a titanium backup then flash my phone with a 4.5.91 stock image using fastboot, do the OTA, then re-root, and restore the titanium backup to get back to where I was. And if anything fails restore from my nandroid.
Does that sound right?
I've heard there could be issues relating to going back to a locked bootloader file. So I'm not sure on specifics there. I just run CyanogenMod to avoid all that stuff.
penderway said:
Same thing I used... different source. Still it requires an unlocked bootloader to flash images.
I believe the OP is looking for a root option that will work with a locked bootloader.
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preinstall fastboot method works on a locked bootloader...at least it does for me (locked, rooted and on 141).
gnahc79 said:
preinstall fastboot method works on a locked bootloader...at least it does for me (locked, rooted and on 141).
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So...in fastboot mode, you were able to run fastboot flash preinstall preinstall.img and thus successfully create the "preinstall\" partition with the necessary files on your phone without getting an error message???
My bootloader was unlocked long ago but I still couldn't flash the preinstall partition without running the pudding unlock .sbf first. Idk
I wasn't even able to boot into fastboot without unlocking the bootloader first.
penderway said:
So...in fastboot mode, you were able to run fastboot flash preinstall preinstall.img and thus successfully create the "preinstall\" partition with the necessary files on your phone without getting an error message???
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yep, followed all of the steps and every one is successful. I'm very risk-averse when it comes to messing with my phone, so I've never unlocked my phone. Only root.
I love how no one is answering your question just telling you to unlock your bootloader...
I downloaded the ota update, installed and got failed to boot 4 starting rsd node.. i had unlocked bootloader before update help please!! I pulled the battery for now.
gnahc79 said:
yep, followed all of the steps and every one is successful. I'm very risk-averse when it comes to messing with my phone, so I've never unlocked my phone. Only root.
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Well then, that settles it. The OP (who also doesn't have an unlocked bootloader) should be able to do the same.
gnahc79 said:
yep, followed all of the steps and every one is successful. I'm very risk-averse when it comes to messing with my phone, so I've never unlocked my phone. Only root.
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Is there any way to get step by step instructions for this

My boot loader is unlocked

I have unlocked my boot loader on day one. Never done that before so now I'm wondering if I will still be getting OTA updates. I unlocked in case I wanted to flash so I don't lose user data.
Will I still be getting OTA updates with an unlocked boot loader?
Yes. You would still get OTA update notifications with a rooted/modified system, but it won't let you install it. If you never modified anything other than simply unlocking, you will be able to install the OTA without issue.
Lepa79 said:
I have unlocked my boot loader on day one. Never done that before so now I'm wondering if I will still be getting OTA updates. I unlocked in case I wanted to flash so I don't lose user data.
Will I still be getting OTA updates with an unlocked boot loader?
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yes, you'll get OTA, assuming you didn't do any modification to any partitions (other then user) you can take OTA.. I just did myself and now I'm on 6.0.1)
Thank you guys. I'm still waiting on 6.0.1. Nothing has been done except unlocking boot loader and I am not rooted.
Lepa79 said:
Thank you guys. I'm still waiting on 6.0.1. Nothing has been done except unlocking boot loader and I am not rooted.
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you can just download it from google without waiting, you know that right?
Yes, and if I don't flash the user file then I won't lose my data, right?
Just running short on time.
Lepa79 said:
Yes, and if I don't flash the user file then I won't lose my data, right?
Just running short on time.
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flash everything but user, and it's like you just took OTA - just without waiting)
a1exus said:
flash everything but user, and it's like you just took OTA - just without waiting)
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Good. That's the reason I unlocked boot loader when I got the phone. Awesome. Might play with that this weekend. Loving 6p and huawei watch. I'm all set
Same here, enjoying phone with watch)
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Just make sure when you flash them you follow the directions. For many of the files you have to flash them, reboot to bootloader, flash the next one, reboot to bootloader, etc. If you miss a reboot or reboot to system instead of bootloader, you could have problems.
Another option if you're not super familiar with flashing is to wait for the OTA ZIP to be posted (not sure if it is yet or not, I used the factory image) and flash that with ADB Sideload mode, which is more similar to a traditional OTA than flahsing the files on your own.
Thank u guys. I got all of the images flashed and in the correct order. Up and running on 6.0.1. Love good old command line commands .

Stock unrooted device in soft-brick bootloop running 7.1.1

Hi,
So quick summary of what happened. I went to make coffee, came back to desk and my N6P has been stuck in boot loop.
It was running the latest Android 7.1.1 build (NPF26F)
I can access fastboot and recovery fine. However, I can't flash anything from fastboot as the device wasn't unlocked.
I tried wiping data / factory & cache from fastboot and recovery with no difference in result.
I also can't seem to sideload anything as all the OTA's from google come back with 'Can't install this package (%Date of build%) over newer build.
The latest OTA i can find is: 7.1.1 NMF26F (angler-ota-nmf26f-61b4a915.zip)
I also tried the official 7.0 NBD91K (angler-ota-nbd91k-32c2eac8.zip) with the same result.
Is there a different OTA I can use or can I force it to sideload an older version or any other suggestions?
I really don't want to have to deal with my telco. I'll be without a phone for weeks if I have to :'(
I have a phone with the same problem. Haven't gotten an answer yet. I am starting to wonder if it's an issue with the build.
bkgovols said:
I have a phone with the same problem. Haven't gotten an answer yet. I am starting to wonder if it's an issue with the build.
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When you say haven't gotten an answer yet.... you posted it somewhere? I bet an easy fix for google would be to release a newer full OTA... but unless they respond in a day, i'll be returning phone...
gunigugu said:
Hi,
So quick summary of what happened. I went to make coffee, came back to desk and my N6P has been stuck in boot loop.
It was running the latest Android 7.1.1 build (NPF26F)
I can access fastboot and recovery fine. However, I can't flash anything from fastboot as the device wasn't unlocked.
I tried wiping data / factory & cache from fastboot and recovery with no difference in result.
I also can't seem to sideload anything as all the OTA's from google come back with 'Can't install this package (%Date of build%) over newer build.
The latest OTA i can find is: 7.1.1 NMF26F (angler-ota-nmf26f-61b4a915.zip)
I also tried the official 7.0 NBD91K (angler-ota-nbd91k-32c2eac8.zip) with the same result.
Is there a different OTA I can use or can I force it to sideload an older version or any other suggestions?
I really don't want to have to deal with my telco. I'll be without a phone for weeks if I have to :'(
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You can unlock bootloader if you have fast boot. The computer needs to recognise your phone. Then just follow the steps in the beginner's guide.
tropical cactus said:
You can unlock bootloader if you have fast boot. The computer needs to recognise your phone. Then just follow the steps in the beginner's guide.
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No, unfortunately, you can no longer unlock nexus devices from just the bootloader. You need access to Android OS.
gunigugu said:
No, unfortunately, you can no longer unlock nexus devices from just the bootloader. You need access to Android OS.
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Install Android SDK or find adb mini bundle. Download latest factory images from Google's website. Run this command to sideload the factory image. You DON'T need unlocked bootloader for this command.
HTML:
adb sideload yourFactoryImagesFile
gunigugu said:
Hi,
...I can access fastboot and recovery fine. However, I can't flash anything from fastboot as the device wasn't unlocked....
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You never went into Developer Options and toggled the "allow OEM Unlock"? If not, you will not be able to unlock bootloader via fastboot.
And are you positive you did a proper "factory reset" from recovery? From stock, this should get you out of a boot loop. The naming convention Google used for DP2/Public Release was screwed up and I've seen others reporting the inability to flash OTA's but the solution was to flash the full Google image. As someone else suggested, until a new OTA hits with a newer (higher) number, you may be out of luck. Maybe someone with more experience can help with perhaps altering the OTA signature?
fapste said:
Install Android SDK or find adb mini bundle. Download latest factory images from Google's website. Run this command to sideload the factory image. You DON'T need unlocked bootloader for this command.
HTML:
adb sideload yourFactoryImagesFile
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Unfortunately as mentioned in original post 'I also can't seem to sideload anything as all the OTA's from google come back with 'Can't install this package (%Date of build%) over newer build'
v12xke said:
You never went into Developer Options and toggled the "allow OEM Unlock"? If not, you will not be able to unlock bootloader via fastboot.
And are you positive you did a proper "factory reset" from recovery? From stock, this should get you out of a boot loop. The naming convention Google used for DP2/Public Release was screwed up and I've seen others reporting the inability to flash OTA's but the solution was to flash the full Google image. As someone else suggested, until a new OTA hits with a newer (higher) number, you may be out of luck. Maybe someone with more experience can help with perhaps altering the OTA signature?
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Yup never did it :'(
Didn't think I needed to unlock / root my devices anymore since I can get all the functionality out of stock android these days. Though now I feel like I'm being punished for not unlocking it :'(
I'm positive I did a factory reset from recovery. I do believe flashing a full google image would fix the issue, but im unable to from fastboot as device is locked and sideload images appear to be older :'(
Really sorry to hear this, and I know being without the phone even for a day or two is inconvenient at best. Could be critical for your work or school. Most every bootloop I have encountered, I've been able to fix by re-flashing the kernel. Either stock or custom... like EX Kernel. Have you ever played with WugFresh's NRT? You can temp flash TWRP and maybe temp flash or flash the kernel? This probably won't work with a locked bootloader If you could just start the OS, you could toggle the OEM unlock. At a minimum, TWRP will give you a file manager, MTP file transfer, wiping and other tools. If you have time, it may be worth a try. Other than that, successfully altering the signature of the OTA may work, but I've not seen any work on this, but have never had to look. I'd keep searching for ppl having the difficulty of going from DP2 to Public Release (older/newer) and see if there was another solution other than flashing the full image, which obviously you can't do right now. Good luck, and let us know if you make any progress.
Edit : Read here for possible help. This may work in conjunction with getting TWRP installed via NRT.
gunigugu said:
Unfortunately as mentioned in original post 'I also can't seem to sideload anything as all the OTA's from google come back with 'Can't install this package (%Date of build%) over newer build'
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How can flashing the latest factory images released on 6 December can give this error? Make sure you download the 6 December factory images
fapste said:
How can flashing the latest factory images released on 6 December can give this error? Make sure you download the 6 December factory images
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Many ppl have had problems sideloading the OTA coming from DP2 to Public Release NPF26F->>NMF26F and not just the 6P. Because the Public release numerically is "older" the OTA will not flash. When unlocked, the solution was to flash the full Google image, rather than the OTA. Why in their infinite wisdom Google did this I have no idea. Options are very slim when your bootloader is locked and you are stuck in a boot loop. OP cannot flash a full image when the NMF26F OTA is parsed as being "older".
fapste said:
How can flashing the latest factory images released on 6 December can give this error? Make sure you download the 6 December factory images
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I believe it's because the latest OTA on https://developers.google.com/android/ota is 7.1.1 (NMF26F) and my phone is already running 7.1.1 build (NPF26F).
v12xke said:
Many ppl have had sideloading OTA coming from DP2 to Public Release NPF26F->>NMF26F and not just the 6P. Because the Public release numerically is "older" the OTA will not flash. When unlocked, the solution was to flash the full Google image, rather than the OTA. Why in their infinite wisdom Google did this I have no idea. Options are very slim when your bootloader is locked and you are stuck in a boot loop. OP cannot flash a full image when the NMF26F OTA is parsed as being "older".
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This guy gets it!!! Yeah, I've unlocked a lot of my older devices and am comfortable with 'messing' my devices, but I didn't with the 6p as the stock experience is great now. But now I feel like I'm being punished because my device is dead with no recourse for action. Unless google release a newer full OTA.
If you haven't given up yet and gone back to the carrier with the phone, try the NRT toolkit to temp flash TWRP, and then FORMAT each partition, then try to reflash OTA with TWRP. Under "Advanced Utilities".
v12xke said:
If you haven't given up yet and gone back to the carrier with the phone, try the NRT toolkit to temp flash TWRP, and then FORMAT each partition, then try to reflash OTA with TWRP. Under "Advanced Utilities".
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This will work on a locked device? I'll give it a crack and report back.
v12xke said:
If you haven't given up yet and gone back to the carrier with the phone, try the NRT toolkit to temp flash TWRP, and then FORMAT each partition, then try to reflash OTA with TWRP. Under "Advanced Utilities".
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Yeah failed :'( (remote: unlock device to use this command)
[Guide] Fool/Noob proof way to do clean installs on Nexus Devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexu...talls-t3518311
try this clean install should work i encountered a problem like this too
boxguy1 said:
[Guide] Fool/Noob proof way to do clean installs on Nexus Devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexu...talls-t3518311
try this clean install should work i encountered a problem like this too
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Firstly your link is broken: It's http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-fool-noob-proof-to-clean-installs-t3518311
Secondly as I've mentioned a few times including the OP. The device is locked. You need access to Android OS to unlock. It can not be done just from bootloader. So this does not work, but thanks for posting the suggestion anyway.
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gunigugu said:
Firstly your link is broken: It's http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-fool-noob-proof-to-clean-installs-t3518311
Secondly as I've mentioned a few times including the OP. The device is locked. You need access to Android OS to unlock. It can not be done just from bootloader. So this does not work, but thanks for posting the suggestion anyway.
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Sorry I thought it would have worked you should wait until the January security patch as all the other users said best of luck

unable to update to 7.1.1

I've been trying to update to the 7.1.1 update, but i'm only being notified to install the nougat beta update.
I've cleared cache in apps>show system>system update and also in recovery as i've read in the axon forums.
I have the A2017U model. Build number is A2017UV1.0.0B29. Also, when i do try to update to the beta, im notified that the update package doesn't match the phone.
I'm kinda lost at this point. Can someone point me to the right direction?
Your phone has to be completely stock for the update to take. Bootloader unlocked, or fastboot are ok.
You can probably get away with flashing the B15 firmware via edl, then take the ota to b19. This should preserve your data. It is a good idea to back things up.
Your post lacks detail about what you've done to the phone to make it none stock as far as android OS goes.
gpz1100 said:
Your phone has to be completely stock for the update to take. Bootloader unlocked, or fastboot are ok.
You can probably get away with flashing the B15 firmware via edl, then take the ota to b19. This should preserve your data. It is a good idea to back things up.
Your post lacks detail about what you've done to the phone to make it none stock as far as android OS goes.
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Sorry, i bought the device from someone else about 2 months ago so i dont know whats been done. I know its not rooted nor does it have Twrp installed.
what the best way to flash stock?
Is the bootloader unlocked? Do you want to unlock it?
I'd say first unlock the bootloader then use the B15 edl method then let it upgrade to B19.
gpz1100 said:
Is the bootloader unlocked? Do you want to unlock it?
I'd say first unlock the bootloader then use the B15 edl method then let it upgrade to B19.
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ill look up how to do that then

Android Pie fails after OTA

The 10/19 update fails after I reboot. Worse yet the screen goes dark nothing on. Can feel is vibrate to boot but nothing. I also wiped cache in recovery and still nothing. Even downloaded from the website on computer and to phone. Still nothing. Please help
cell2011 said:
The 10/19 update fails after I reboot. Worse yet the screen goes dark nothing on. Can feel is vibrate to boot but nothing. I also wiped cache in recovery and still nothing. Even downloaded from the website on computer and to phone. Still nothing. Please help
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Is your device bootloader unlocked or not?
Locked I tried both unlocked too
cell2011 said:
Locked I tried both unlocked too
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When you tried to update with unlocked bootloader too, why you locked it again?
Can you please answer the following questions to get more insight on what you want :
Is your bootloader now locked or unlocked?
What is you current twrp recovery (file name)?
What is your current Rom(file name)?
What is your magisk version?
Is your storage encryped or decrypted?
If nothing helps(but let's see):
I recommend to factory reset(wipes everything) from stock recovery.
When you unlock your bootloader your device will also be wiped...
I have not gone as far as any root just unlocked bl. I have factory reset as well but only in OS not manual .
just unbrick it androidfilehost.com/?fid=4349826312261644112
if u don't care data loss

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