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Looking for an Android 7" Stereo

I want to put an Android stereo in my 08 Ford Edge. I recently bought a Blaupunkt San Antonio from Crutchfield and I had problems with the unit. After contacting Crutchfield, they said they would refund mt money when I ship the stereo back to them, so now I want to get another stereo.
I figured if I bought a brand name stereo ($550 incl dash kit and SWC adapter) and I had problems, I may as well try to save some money and get an off brand unit. I have been looking at Amazon.ca and I found this https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071V3D4F5/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1A7AZJQAV8MAX&coliid=I1XSTAKQTFASPU Joying unit that looks promising. I have seen a few posts about a Joying Android 6.0 2GB stereo on XDA and I was wondering if it's the same unit and if people are generally happy with it?
Is the screen sensitive, as some stereos I have used need a little harder push on the screen to use it. Do I need an external adapter for the SWC? Does anyone know if there is a model with these features that plays DVDs? Does anyone have any pics of the back of this unit?
Thanks for the help,
Ian

w98seeng said:
I want to put an Android stereo in my 08 Ford Edge. I recently bought a Blaupunkt San Antonio from Crutchfield and I had problems with the unit. After contacting Crutchfield, they said they would refund mt money when I ship the stereo back to them, so now I want to get another stereo.
I figured if I bought a brand name stereo ($550 incl dash kit and SWC adapter) and I had problems, I may as well try to save some money and get an off brand unit. I have been looking at Amazon.ca and I found this https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071V3D4F5/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1A7AZJQAV8MAX&coliid=I1XSTAKQTFASPU Joying unit that looks promising. I have seen a few posts about a Joying Android 6.0 2GB stereo on XDA and I was wondering if it's the same unit and if people are generally happy with it?
Is the screen sensitive, as some stereos I have used need a little harder push on the screen to use it. Do I need an external adapter for the SWC? Does anyone know if there is a model with these features that plays DVDs? Does anyone have any pics of the back of this unit?
Thanks for the help,
Ian
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Since you are new I'd say read the forums and do some searches. You have some questions that are sort of answered by reading around.
You mostly do not need an external adapter for steering wheel controls.
Don't bother with a DVD player these days. Moving parts in anything in a car will only result in things breaking over time. Since you can rip and play anything these days there is little need to take up space with the hardware.

pounce said:
Since you are new I'd say read the forums and do some searches. You have some questions that are sort of answered by reading around.
You mostly do not need an external adapter for steering wheel controls.
Don't bother with a DVD player these days. Moving parts in anything in a car will only result in things breaking over time. Since you can rip and play anything these days there is little need to take up space with the hardware.
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I have been around XDA for years, but thanks, I do look new. I tried to search for the stereo, but there isn't any model number so searching is difficult. I also read a few threads, but they didn't really say much about the stereo, mainly they were talking about the software end of it.
Ian

w98seeng said:
I have been around XDA for years, but thanks, I do look new. I tried to search for the stereo, but there isn't any model number so searching is difficult. I also read a few threads, but they didn't really say much about the stereo, mainly they were talking about the software end of it.
Ian
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You are new to android head units.
There are a few forums under Android Auto. You can look through them all. You are going to find that there are a lot of Chinese variants. Using search is probably the worst way to learn generally what's working.
https://www.google.com/search?q=define:stereo
By simple design all of these car head units are going to be stereo. Perhaps you mean something else like FM Radio, amplifier, pre-outs?
There are a lot of posts regarding Joying Sofia based units.
With your car you might want to take a look at the 8" units that Joying offers. You can go to their website. The 8" might fill out the space better if you like just having the touch screen vs the buttons on the unit you linked.
Sounds like you have some technical issues with head units. Any of these android units are going to generally have more issues than a basic head unit from Crutchfield.

Help - Very Confused !

Hi All,
Ive been trying to read up as much as I can on all things Android head unit and have somehow got lost along the way - I've been reading up for about 3 weeks and now have more questions than when I started!
I want to fit a stereo for my wife which has Radio, GPS, CDs and phone connectivity (mainly for Calls but music etc would be nice). Ive already got a double din facia for her car so any universal double din would work. I dont yet know if her car has CANBUS - its a Toyota Urban Cruiser and has steering wheel controls but I cannot find an adapter for it so assuming it will be standard ISO connector.
Originally I was looking at non Android based units but felt the Android Auto would give her the best shot at sat nav with traffic updates etc and also mean things like sat nav wouldn't be instantly out of date. Whilst I have bought items from China before, I think somewhere like Amazon for me would be better as I can then return the unit if it doesnt work out. RDS and RDS-AF would be something that I know the missus would miss from a stereo so was trying to see how best to get that, either via ROM or a device that is known to do it. Spec wise, I wanted a unit that booted quickly and thought 2GB ram would be a worthwhile addition.
Here are two I've seen on Amazon. Originally I thought PX5 would be the way to go but it looks like ROM support for PX3 is quicker and better established. Ideally I would prefer something that just worked, but figured this may be unrealistic so something with good XDA support may be more realistic.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XFQN...TF8&colid=20JYJB23KMEOF&coliid=I1AFFIJZ2SJQWE
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EinCar-Qua...4606998&sr=8-1&keywords=Android+head+unit+2gb
https://www.amazon.co.uk/XOMAX-XM-2...504607424&sr=1-97&keywords=double+din+sat+nav
Any thoughts or pointers welcome

Sorry to bump but could really use some pointers - even if its just a "those head units are crap" and "read this"

SlyTuk said:
Sorry to bump but could really use some pointers - even if its just a "those head units are crap" and "read this"
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It is really hard to say something about a unit if you don't own or have owned that unit, and the units you mention are really "rare" units. What you read about here are the well-known units like Joying, Dasaita, Ownice, A-Sure, Witson and a number of others.
Your units are so rare (I personally have never heard of them) that I assume nobody knows them and therefore doesn't want to give a best-guess answer.
One thing though: I would advice not to buy a PX3. It is an older unit and quite slow. Yes, it is very well supported but the new PX5 is only here for a few months but really moving forward.
Or buy a Joying.
And remember: the quality is less than the premium brands, but you also pay 3-6x times the price for such a unit.

Ok. Thanks
Can you get a Joying with a dvd drive built in? Are there many PX5 versions with built in dvd?
Do you guys get yours direct from china? Is there any that have euro resellers?
Thanks again
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SlyTuk said:
Ok. Thanks
Can you get a Joying with a dvd drive built in? Are there many PX5 versions with built in dvd?
Do you guys get yours direct from china? Is there any that have euro resellers?
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The Joying Sofias have no DVD/CD player. I looked at some of the major Chinese brand PX5 models, but the ones I checked out didn't have a DVD player either. It is "old technology" (And yes, my wife also still prefers a booklet with CDs instead of selecting a playlist from a multi-playlist collection in a music player).
Joying has warehouses in Germany, Australia and the USA. Maybe the others have as well. Some of the bigger brands also sell via Amazon.

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The Joying Sofias have no DVD/CD player. I looked at some of the major Chinese brand PX5 models, but the ones I checked out didn't have a DVD player either. It is "old technology" (And yes, my wife also still prefers a booklet with CDs instead of selecting a playlist from a multi-playlist collection in a music player).
Joying has warehouses in Germany, Australia and the USA. Maybe the others have as well. Some of the bigger brands also sell via Amazon.
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What did you go for in the end? PX3 with dvd or convince the missus to go for a dvdless model?
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SlyTuk said:
What did you go for in the end? PX3 with dvd or convince the missus to go for a dvdless model?
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My signture states I'm using a joying, which is DVD-less.
I would never buy a PX3 anymore.

Headunit comparison/recommendation

Hi guys
Looking to purchase a new Android headunit for my 2008 Mazda 3 and have narrowed my search down to the following:
Hizpo HIZPO001AU59
A9 4 Core
2gb memory
Android 7.1
Xtrons PCD76M3MA
A7 4 core
1gb memory
Android 6.0
Eonon GA8151
A7 4 Core
2gb memory
Android 6.0
Which one would you recommend out of this bunch if the prices were similar? The Hizpo looks higher spec over all but doesn't look as good ... the Xtrons looks the best but only 1gb RAM. Eonon seems to be middle of the pack ... low spec but 2gb RAM.
Comments and suggestions would be very helpful please I want to get this purchase done today if possible!
Sorry I am not allowed to post links as a new member...

Well just based on looking at this post alone, and owning a Mazdaspeed6 myself, I'm inclined towards the Eonon based on the name alone. I've researched units specified for my car and I've come across Eonon often enough that I wish there was a good unit specifically for my car.
But what are your plans for your unit? Are you looking for simple pnp? Are you looking to fully customize a sic infotainment media center?
Ultimately I think you'd want to find a unit backed by the XDA community
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Well just based on looking at this post alone, and owning a Mazdaspeed6 myself, I'm inclined towards the Eonon based on the name alone. I've researched units specified for my car and I've come across Eonon often enough that I wish there was a good unit specifically for my car.
But what are your plans for your unit? Are you looking for simple pnp? Are you looking to fully customize a sic infotainment media center?
Ultimately I think you'd want to find a unit backed by the XDA community
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Thanks so much for the reply ... Eonon does seem to have a good name and is much more well known than the other 2.
I'm probably a more basic user ... I'd want to use my unit mainly for GPS and Reversing camera functionality ... but it would be nice if it had good sound output also. I can't see myself putting so many apps on the device but I'd like it to be quick and reliable for years to come. Basically plug and play with minimal configuration required.

From reading other posts on here it sounds like all of these chinese "Huifei" headunits are all basically the same on the inside ... brand doesn't matter too much? In this case a higher spec unit would be better right?

Beware: a colleague have purchased a Joying HU with 1.8 Ghz proc specs (Intel Atom x3/Sofia) clearly stated on seller's page, while its only 1.2 max. This product advertising sheet (rather ****) should be double checked.

ste2002 said:
Beware: a colleague have purchased a Joying HU with 1.8 Ghz proc specs (Intel Atom x3/Sofia) clearly stated on seller's page, while its only 1.2 max. This product advertising sheet (rather ****) should be double checked.
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Strange I would've thought the Joying HUs would be quite good.
I ended up not purchasing a new headunit ... I'll wait until next year
At the last minute as my finger was hovering over the buy button I realised that the Xtrons and Hizpo HU may not support my Bose Amplifier system that is set up in my Mazdaspeed 3 ... there is a wiring modification that can be done to correct this but I'd rather have it work natively. The Eonon HU includes an adaptor that works well with the Bose system which is great!
I'll likely buy the Eonon unit next year when I'm back in the market to purchase one of these unless another good competitor arrives on the market!

Is there any custom rom for the GA8151?
Regards

Recommend me a new head unit

Ive been using android units for years, currently Ive got a 10.1 Joying Sofia unit I want to replace, a JY-UL134N2, im fed up with how quickly Joying abandoned it. Ive had various make and spec units in the past as things have evolved.
Im specifically looking for another double din unit with a 10 inch screen.
Basically Im looking for something with good update support thats PX5 based, 4gb ram and 32gb rom or better.
Ideally something Malaysk compatible too.
Ive read talk about some units now coming with better DSP setups which would be good.
I saw a 10.1 screen version of the ATOTO A6 Pro I liked but their specs like dual bluetooth make me wonder if theyre Malaysk compatible and the hardware specs seem to lag behind with quad core and less ram.
I also read that Dasaita are very good at ongoing support.
I have also been considering the xtrons TE103AP.
Essentially based on the above I would appreciate peoples suggestions as I want to make a purchase soon since my Joying has become problematic.

mindriot said:
Basically Im looking for something with good update support thats PX5 based, 4gb ram and 32gb rom or better.
Ideally something Malaysk compatible too.
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In that case make sure you get a PX5 MTCE unit - then it will be compatible with the Malaysk or Hal9K roms. If it isn't MTCE you won't have much luck with mods.

Thanks for replying, know any with a 10.1 screen specifically?
Ive been refamiliarising and some of the new intel based airmont ones sound interesting for speed and with dsp but ive only seen the joying unit and im not fond of the type of screen mounting.
Theres also the talk about PX6 units but they seem to be much slower arriving than expected.

This looks like your best bet
http://xtrons.co.uk/te103ap-10-1-an...vd-player-with-adjustable-viewing-angles.html

millab said:
This looks like your best bet
http://xtrons.co.uk/te103ap-10-1-an...vd-player-with-adjustable-viewing-angles.html
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Yep thats the one i keep coming back to thanks. Ive got very used to the bigger screen which works very well in a vw T5 dashboard.
Just the advent of airmont items has me distracted, and the idea of a dsp added, but ive lived fine without advanced dsp up until now
However the px5 is apparently the equal or better of sofia 3gr so that would do, especially with malaysk etc vs bloated stock roms.

Yeah I have a PX5 with DSP and the DSP is pretty good - there are ways of adding it to a unit, but it requires some soldering apparently. You could ask Xtrons if they can add it for you. I know some sellers give that option.

Good suggestion, I have sent an email will see if I get a reply.
It must be possible Im guessing the XV8 from androidautoshop is the same unit : https://androidautoshop.com/univers...32gb-entertainment-system.html#/26-map-europe
Im tempted to just commit and buy though sense dictates I should wait and see what PX6 or Airmont stuff comes out soon (maybe).
On that thought does anyone know of any Airmont based double din units with DSP there are with a 10 inch screen (if any) are out yet? (other than the one joying unit being discussed recently).

mindriot said:
Good suggestion, I have sent an email will see if I get a reply.
It must be possible Im guessing the XV8 from androidautoshop is the same unit : https://androidautoshop.com/univers...32gb-entertainment-system.html#/26-map-europe
Im tempted to just commit and buy though sense dictates I should wait and see what PX6 or Airmont stuff comes out soon (maybe).
On that thought does anyone know of any Airmont based double din units with DSP there are with a 10 inch screen (if any) are out yet? (other than the one joying unit being discussed recently).
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Yes that one looks the same. Android Auto Shop units also come pre-rooted with Hal9K ROM apparently, and you can get a $25 discount with a link in the Hal9K ROM thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...nt/rom-hal9k-rom-3-mtcd-e-head-units-t3847477

I think that has expired the site doesnt recognise it.
No matter will still consider the purchase.
Never tried hal9k just malaysk some time back before i had the sofia unit.

Well as yet xtrons havent bothered to respond if they could supply one with a DSP fitted.
androidautoshop responded quickly to a couple of emails asking for some details, then frustratingly I found the XV8 is now sold out lol.

mindriot said:
Well as yet xtrons havent bothered to respond if they could supply one with a DSP fitted.
androidautoshop responded quickly to a couple of emails asking for some details, then frustratingly I found the XV8 is now sold out lol.
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Haha of course that would happen! I hope they have stock again soon for you, it really looks like your best option.

millab said:
Haha of course that would happen! I hope they have stock again soon for you, it really looks like your best option.
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Xtrons finally responded, saying their unit isnt dsp compatible.
Meaning really they dont have any equipped units to sell.

Just a follow up, looks like Hal9k is going to do an A9 version for PX6 MTCE units, and the Dasaita Max6 10.2 unit with DSP is a perfect match, so Ill be buying that one soon.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Das...l?spm=a2g0s.imconversation.0.0.107e3e5fMUsClN
I sent Dasaita a message asking and they confirmed its MTCE.

mindriot said:
Just a follow up, looks like Hal9k is going to do an A9 version for PX6 MTCE units, and the Dasaita Max6 10.2 unit with DSP is a perfect match, so Ill be buying that one soon.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Das...l?spm=a2g0s.imconversation.0.0.107e3e5fMUsClN
I sent Dasaita a message asking and they confirmed its MTCE.
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I've been looking at this same one. Do you really need a custom rom though with these? I mean... it's a radio..not a phone. Isn't a custom launcher good enough? (assuming we still have root)

They are much, much more than a radio. They are computers akin to decent tablets WITH a radio and amplifier added, essentially the MCU part combined with the system core board.
In the past ive used malaysk on mtcb and mtcd units, then gtx on a sofia unit. Many cusstom roms on phones too for many years. Ive found custom roms are worth it, removing bloat, making them perform better and adding sensible features, ie a lock screen on boot with gtx or more responsive with mslaysk making them safer to use when driving. Or better sound processing, more useability, xposed, gps fixes, bluetooth fixes, rds fixes, and so on the list is quite significant for some devices.
Unfortunately with most resellers, and makers for that matter, little or at least minimum effort goes into the android aspect beyond looks with these stereos. As always the work done by people here at xda bridges the gap to help make significant improvements to some devices.
In my opinion and experience buying these units in stock form are akin to unfinished, it takes a custom rom to make them what they should. Yes theyre improving all the time and i havent experienced dasaita before (their rep for android updates is good) ive most recently wasted my money on a couple of joying units (never again), also consider the likes of hal9k is sponsored by androidautoshop and they actually supply many of their units preinstalled with hal9k instead of stock i believe.

Just bought a head unit from AndroidAutoShop, I can keep you posted on what I think when it arrives and I get it installed.

I too am looking to get a semi future proof 10" double din (or single) HU.
I've been looking at Xtrons, I'll study Dasiata.
Any difference between 8.1 or 9.0?
I will primarily use Android Auto, Assistant & Radio

AMRivlin said:
I too am looking to get a semi future proof 10" double din (or single) HU.
I've been looking at Xtrons, I'll study Dasiata.
Any difference between 8.1 or 9.0?
I will primarily use Android Auto, Assistant & Radio
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I looked at Xtrons units, but for my car they only had units with PX30, and I would like something with PX6.
What I have heard, Android 9 is more "smoother" and faster than 8.1. Just an overall improvement I think.

Does DSP affect the ability to use custom ROMs like Malaysk?

mindriot said:
Yep thats the one i keep coming back to thanks. Ive got very used to the bigger screen which works very well in a vw T5 dashboard.
Just the advent of airmont items has me distracted, and the idea of a dsp added, but ive lived fine without advanced dsp up until now
However the px5 is apparently the equal or better of sofia 3gr so that would do, especially with malaysk etc vs bloated stock roms.
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Malaysk works on Intel Sofia? Thought it was on RockChip

Idoing unit comparison

Unit 1. Android 9.0 w/PX6
Unit 2. Android 8.1
I've been looking at units to replace the stock one in my 09 wrx. The units say they are for Forresters, but they use the same console set up. I'm not sure which is a "better" unit. The PX6 is the hexacore, but has Android 9.0 and a cleaner interface. No built in Android Auto though, according to rep I am talking to through Ali.
Second unit does have built in Android Auto, but with the 8 core and a uglier interface. Does anyone have any experience, or could point me in a better direction even?
Thanks

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Unit 1. Android 9.0 w/PX6
Unit 2. Android 8.1
I've been looking at units to replace the stock one in my 09 wrx. The units say they are for Forresters, but they use the same console set up. I'm not sure which is a "better" unit. The PX6 is the hexacore, but has Android 9.0 and a cleaner interface. No built in Android Auto though, according to rep I am talking to through Ali.
Second unit does have built in Android Auto, but with the 8 core and a uglier interface. Does anyone have any experience, or could point me in a better direction even?
Thanks
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PX6 Android 9 would be better.
But be careful as their are a lot of fake units on Ali at the moment. Their is a forum on here somewhere explaining it all. They are saying they are Android 9 with 2+32gb but turning out to just be android 6 with 1+16gb. They have somehow managed to code it so it reads differently. Personally I would purchase from a proper reseller or Amazon or eBay. I bought my 3 Xtrons units direct from their site. But they are a reseller and not the manufacturer. But they also have a lot of different models on their either custom fit or normal single or double din units that are universal. Also they sell the facias and wiring harnesses for all types of vehicles. Good luck.
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PX6 Android 9 would be better.
But be careful as their are a lot of fake units on Ali at the moment. Their is a forum on here somewhere explaining it all. They are saying they are Android 9 with 2+32gb but turning out to just be android 6 with 1+16gb. They have somehow managed to code it so it reads differently. Personally I would purchase from a proper reseller or Amazon or eBay. I bought my 3 Xtrons units direct from their site. But they are a reseller and not the manufacturer. But they also have a lot of different models on their either custom fit or normal single or double din units that are universal. Also they sell the facias and wiring harnesses for all types of vehicles. Good luck.
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Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know where that thread is or what it might be called?