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OnePlus 2 Vs moto X play : Which phone should i buy?

Guys plz tell me which fone should i buy?
my requirements are
1)screen size should not be greater than 5.5 inches (not even 5.6)
2)price should be equal to or less than Rs.25000( about $380)
3) decent battery backup
4) should not lag at all and should be smooth to use
5) i should be able to use the phone for about 2 years without any problems
i was crazy about oneplus 2 initially but i see a lot of negative reviews . i saw a video of speedtest between oneplus 2 vs moto x play in which moto x play beats oneplus 2 easily (i am shocked and confused after watching this)
please help and guide me.

Most of the problems with oneplus 2 are software related and can be fixed. If oneplus wants to, we can have a beast phone. I would personally go for op2 again because of the looks and ability to flash ROMs without losing warranty but I don't blame you if you go for moto x.

Good answer. Went for one plus 2 just because of the development aspect and the great camera, mixed reviews, but I've loved it so far. Feels like bit of a gamble waiting for one plus to get the software optimised with the hardware, will they get there? If they don't someone else will though and I think, if you like things a bit rough round the edges with lots of potential for tweaking etc. Go 4 opt
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The play is on a completely different level than the oneplus 2. Even though the oneplus 2 is currently buggy due to poorly optimized software and a flaky cpu, it'll run circles around the moto x play. The play is using a modified version of the CPU in the galaxy s4 and HTC one M7. It's old, it's slow, the GPU is trash, and apparently has the same overheating issues the snapdragon 810 and 808 have. Now, the pure, on the other hand, can definitely keep up with the oneplus 2. I owned both the Moto x pure and the oneplus 2 at the same time and ended up returning the moto x, despite the fact that it was better in every measurable way than the oneplus 2 because it was uncomfortable to hold. The screen was a bit too big and the phone was a bit too wide and too thin and too slippery for my tastes. I dropped it several times during my time with it and just really was not a comfortable phone to hold. But to each their own, totally could have gone the other way, too, both good phones! (Well, ok, the oneplus 2 isn't good yet, but there's potential).
Honestly, if you want the best phone for that kind of money, get the oneplus one and don't even think twice about it. It's far better than the moto x play and the oneplus 2.

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The play is on a completely different level than the oneplus 2. Even though the oneplus 2 is currently buggy due to poorly optimized software and a flaky cpu, it'll run circles around the moto x play. The play is using a modified version of the CPU in the galaxy s4 and HTC one M7. It's old, it's slow, the GPU is trash, and apparently has the same overheating issues the snapdragon 810 and 808 have. Now, the pure, on the other hand, can definitely keep up with the oneplus 2. I owned both the Moto x pure and the oneplus 2 at the same time and ended up returning the moto x, despite the fact that it was better in every measurable way than the oneplus 2 because it was uncomfortable to hold. The screen was a bit too big and the phone was a bit too wide and too thin and too slippery for my tastes. I dropped it several times during my time with it and just really was not a comfortable phone to hold. But to each their own, totally could have gone the other way, too, both good phones! (Well, ok, the oneplus 2 isn't good yet, but there's potential).
Honestly, if you want the best phone for that kind of money, get the oneplus one and don't even think twice about it. It's far better than the moto x play and the oneplus 2.
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But i heard the complete opposite that if you dont have oneplus one then go for OP2 not oneplus one. Another question - If i buy OP2 and root it with other roms/Add kernels then will it void the warranty?

I like my OPT more and more every day. I'm a huge Motorola X guy but opted with OPT. I still own the Motorola X 2014 and Nexus 6.
One Plus 2 has huge potential but it may take a bit of time to get there.
The last update (2.1) has improved things and Android M hopefully will help too.
To be fair, I haven't had any issues with my phone. Screen is nice, fingerprint scanner works flawlessly (better than my Note 5), battery life has been good and overheating a non-issue for me. The camera is great.
Honestly, you can't go wrong with either phone.

I'm curious about this too.
I currently have a Moto X Pure and I LOVE it.... I've had it for about 3 weeks - but I just received my OP2 invite last week and went ahead and pulled the trigger and it should be here Monday or Tuesday.....But now, I'm not sure which one I want to keep?!?!
I can refuse the OP2 and get a refund, or sell it to my local/popular "used cell phone" re-seller for probably what I paid for it (or CL for a little more). Or I can keep it and sell the Moto X Pure for probably a little less than what I paid since it's been used for a few weeks.
The ONLY thing that has been the constant deal breaker is the front speakers on the Moto X Pure. I play in a band and watch a lot of YouTube videos to learn new songs and watch movies when I'm "on the road". The front facing speakers is, and has been since my HTC One M7, a big deal for me. How is the OP2 speaker? Is it better than the Galalxy S6?
Also, since owning the MXP, I've really become accustomed to the motion and sensors the MXP offers.... Just wave your hand over the phone to see any notifications or just touch the notification to see more detail (much more than just active display).
Things I REALLY miss... Notification lights. I'm constantly waving my hand over my phone to see if I've missed any calls or text. I had a Galaxy S6 for a little while and really liked the finger print scanner.
Things that seem close and don't sway me either way
OS - both seem nice
Camera - I need a good camera and both seem pretty "on par" with each other.
Custom ROMs - I'm sure the MXP will have plenty soon and the OP2 already has several
A few other concerns.. The MXP's battery life is just OK, not as good as my M8 was but about the same as my M9 (which isn't the best). It is better than the S6..... But I wish it was better. How is the OP2's battery?
USB C - I currently have about 6 or 7 actually active micro USB cables between home, my car, work and my computer bag that get used regularly... Plus my son and I share these chargers when on trips. USB C is the way we're all headed, but i'm not sure I'm ready to shell out $10-15 per cable just yet.
So.....Any input from someone that has owed both would be very helpful.

I have both.
On my Play i run ressurection remix with no problems. On my OPT i run stock with AK kernel.
Best with each phone:
Oneplus:
Camera (OIS and manual controls is awesome)
Fingerprint sensor
Double tap to wake
4gb ram
No lag
USB-c (expensive cables but soooo nice to press in the cable and dont have to think about upside down ;p
Community, more custom Roms and kernels. I think it's one guy cooking Roms for the Play, Only one....
Moto X Play:
Battery (this is the best with this phone, easy 6-7h SoT) With the oneplus i get 4h SoT with the same use.
Quick charge
Camera in daylight. Inside in poor light it's pretty bad.
Well, thats it... The oneplus is heavier but i like it, it feels more premium. I love the feeling with my kevlar back.
The Play lags alot, but it's software probs so it will most likely be fixed soon.
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Day 3 with my OP2 after sending back my Moto X Pure.....
What I miss about the Moto X Pure:
The great front facing speakers....Biggest complaint on the OP2 is thin sounding speakers
The Moto Gestures and always on listening (even with screen off)
Fast charging of the Moto X Pure....I'd come home from work at 60%, plug it in while I took a shower and change clothes.... 25 minutes later 100%
Daylight picture taking
The speakers (I had to say that one twice, it sounds so good).
What I like better about OnePlus2:
Battery life.... The OP2 gets 3.5 to 4 hrs of SOT... Moto X Pure (not the play), got 3 on a good day and never seen more.
Double tap to wake
Off-screen buttons (like on Samsung)
Notification lights! Probably my biggest complaint with my Moto, I missed the notifications LED.
Feels like a more premium build
Over-all picture taking - Not quite as good in nice light, but better in every other situation.
Fingerprint scanner, even though I don't use it, is quick....
More accessories that actually FIT.
A few more ROM's available.
FYI: I sent my Moto X Pure back because it has a few QC issues and I pre-ordered a Nexus 6P. If the OP2 had front speakers, I'd just keep it instead.... Really wish it did.

Imo, both phones are different takes on the same goal. For me it came down to the cpu/screen tradeoff as its clear both phones will have thriving dev communities (cm is really coming along for the pure now in month 1 of release).
The 810 in the OPT was just too hot and the screen just too bland. The 808 and qhd screen of the MXP have been a much more enjoyable experience for me.

Why I chose the Nexus 5x over the Moto

I recently purchased a Moto X Pure, and within 4 days knew I made the wrong decision. I'll list below the reasons I returned the Moto X Pure and why I'm buying the nexus 5x.
Why I'm return the Pure Garbage™:
•Lcd Lights- Distorts screen at night. Very obvious placement.
•Battery Life-poor. Gets too hot to use while charging (my next point)
•Heat- gets VERY hot with normal usage. Can't use while charging.
•Camera- 21mp? I get the same quality with my daughter's Nintendo DS..
•Weight- uncomfortably heavy + sweaty hand from heat + Rubber Back = disaster waiting to happen
•THICK..Call it a BBC. (Big Bulky Cellphone! Get your mind or the gutter!!)
Why I chose the Nexus 5x:
•Camera - 9mp less but 100x better. Laser autofocus.
•Screen - Both LCD, but after countless viewing reviews, the lights aren't eyesores.
•Fingerprint- so convenient!!
•Accessories- Nexus has a much larger following. Last 3 Motorola's were hard to find cases for.
•Updates- for obvious reasons
•BOOTLOADER- IMPORTANT!! If you had plans on getting to the Moto X Pure and unlocking it, you're sacrificing your warranty to do so. Google allows you to unlock your phone and keep your warranty.
What I lost out on in the switch:
- Removable memory - 32g is plenty. I have 128gb card in my G3 that doesn't get used
- 5.7 inch display - Too damn big anyways. The LG G3's 5.5" is pushing my upper limit as far as screens go. Learned on the Moto that 5.7" is a two hand phone, unless you have ogre hands.
Did anyone else choose between devices and get this one? If so what device and why?
Comments/debates welcomed!

That was one of the phones I was looking at as an upgrade from my first gen Moto X. The big factors for me were an unlockable bootloader, vanilla android, regular updates, and the ability to use any carrier. I was hoping for a 5" phone at the most, but 5.2" is okay so far. I don't think I could get used to a 5.7".
I wasn't expecting to care about the fingerprint sensor, but now that I have it, I love it! Was concerned about battery life, but no problem at all getting through the day so far.
The active display (whatever they call it) stinks on this compared to the X. Not a big deal, though, as I have a Pebble, and it's so quick to unlock.

I'm a huge fan of moto, having had the last two moto Xs. I could deal with the garbage cameras because it was nearly pure Google, the size was manageable, customization is boss, and it felt like a quality phone that didn't need a case to be sturdy as hell. The size of the nexus 6 and 6p is what deterred me from them. The 5x is a nice phone with some awesome features and decent battery life but the performance on my 2014 was better (subjectively) and I feel like I'm holding a phone that will break if it falls off the table. I've never felt the need to put a case on my motos unless I was going to the bar or camping, but this guy might need one 24/7

Came from a 2014 X PE as well. I would still be using it if it weren't for FI network. It's a shame that it doesn't work on it.
As far as the camera, the X got a bad rap. I had that thing taking some good shots. Never a complaint from me.
The display blows the Nexus 5x out of the water. So vibrant, punchy and draws your attention. So far everyone that's checked out my 5x immediately commented on how the display was grey, washed out compared to the moto X.
Moto X seemed faster at nearly every task compared to the 5x. This thing stutters all over the place. Moto has some really awesome features that once you use and lose, you miss...a LOT. attentive display, active notifications, chop flashlight, quiet time...moto really nailed it on the head.
Alas, I'll be keeping it. I went back to Nexus for FI, the battery is slightly better than the moto X which randomly shut off with anywhere from 8-20% still supposedly left.
Still love Nexus devices though, its a fun serviceable device.

OP is so incredibly biased in not even going to counter it. Mxpe is a wonderful device.
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The camera on moto still sucks big time in moderate to low light.. That was a bummer for m.. Otherwise it's a gr8 phone
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Nexus 5x can be used on any us cellphone carriers include project fi

I sat on the edge about the pure for a while. A few big things just glared at me.
First, The physical appearance of the pure just didn't match the 5x. It looked chunky and the front flash was just gross.
Second, although the pure will probably get updates fine, the 5x will undeniably be the leader of the curve.
Thank you for making me more comfortable in my decision, the SD card reader was hard to give up for those easy onsite backups and space for a mini rom archive, but I think I can handle the 32GB restriction, especially since T-Mobile allows free unlimited lte play music now.

I used solely Nexus devices from June 2012-March 2015. When I shattered the screen on my N5 I chose a Moto X 2014 Pure due to the size of N6. I actually ended up really liking the Moto, and probably would have went with the 2015 Pure if it hadn't grown to 5.7. As is I went N5X simply due to size. I do miss a couple features of the Moto, but overall am happy with the Nexus. Fingerprint sensor ended up being very convenient, I originally didn't care, but now don't want to give that single feature up.
And I really hate delays in updates, after using Nexus for so long, it was really frustrating waiting for my year newer Moto to update weeks after my original N5 had already received the update with its shattered screen and all.

I was selecting between the MXPE and the 5X, and chose the 5X because:
No Motomaker in Canada (would've purchased from the US though, knew exactly what colours/options I wanted )
MXPE not available in Canada (would've purchased from the US though)
It's too big, and heavy - as is the 6P (MotoX 2013 was the perfect size, MotoX 2014 was reasonable)
Due to their recent behaviour, I no longer trust Motorola to release timely OS updates (hopefully Motorola proves these fears to be false)
Unlocking MXPE bootloader voids warranty
No device can match the kind of support (both official and third-party) that a Nexus device will receive
I really wanted to get the MotoX this year, but the 5X was the better choice for me, by far. I love the feel and industrial design of the 5X (the top and bottom bezels are definitely larger than they ought to be though), I'm getting great battery life, the camera is excellent & fast, and I know I'll be able to get updates from Google for at least two years, and quite possibly beyond.
I've got a four year old Galaxy Nexus flying on Lollipop (with stable Marshmallow on the way!) thanks to the development community. Specifically Ziyan in this case. Not that I plan on using the 5X four years from now.

Coming from MX 2014 Pure (Germany):
- hated delayed Lollipop update (we got it 2 months after the USA)
- battery was subpar
- camera was **** especially in low light conditions
+ cool moto features but almost all of them are now incorporated into M
+ size was perfect
+ moto maker
The smoothness of 5X is much better than on MX 2014 PE. Battery is holding much longer.
I was considering MX2015 but:
- no fingerprint scanner (motorola got screwed in 2014 by apple buying that fingerprint company but for the 2015 models there is no excuse not to have it!)
- too big
- unlocking voids warranty (at least in 2014 model I could flash custom rom and here I don't want to wait for the "official" M update because it will most probably come much later)

I was considering a Motorola phone and even recommended the Moto G to people who asked, but with the acquisition by Lenovo and the abandonment of the Moto E after promising updates, I can no longer consider or recommend Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it will only get worse as time goes on and Motorola becomes even less Google and more Lenovo. I heard they were laying tons of people off.
Plus being able to unlock and relock the bootloader on the Nexus 5X and still having warranty pushed me over the edge. Also guaranteed updates for two years, and a great developer scene is likely.

Moto x is a phablet just like the nexus 6. I didn't want a phablet so I didn't consider the moto x.
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I was considering a Motorola phone and even recommended the Moto G to people who asked, but with the acquisition by Lenovo and the abandonment of the Moto E after promising updates, I can no longer consider or recommend Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it will only get worse as time goes on and Motorola becomes even less Google and more Lenovo. I heard they were laying tons of people off.
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Agree 100%. My last two phones were Motos, and they would have been my first choice for a new one, but I was suspicious after the sale to Lenovo and the recent debacle around their updates sealed the deal for me. To my knowledge Moto still has not articulated a firm policy regarding software updates and security patches going forward (it's possible I missed something, though, since I stopped paying attention once I pre-ordered the 5X).
The Moto E situation was particularly egregious. I know that if you read the fine print they probably complied with the letter of their advertising but the fact is that they tried to sell people on the idea of being the OEM to go to for updates and they completely violated the spirit (perhaps not the letter) of that advertising by providing only one incremental update and then dropping it.

Moto X Style definitely has a better screen than the 5X, also the video was a lot more stabilized than the 5X. Moto X Style has 2 front facing, loud, clear speaker, where the 5X only has one

robstunner said:
OP is so incredibly biased in not even going to counter it. Mxpe is a wonderful device.
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How am I biased when I bought the Motorola first?
The Motorola had it goods, but the bad outweighed it.

I was sooo close to ordering the MXPE. I literally had my customized, Moto Maker'd device in the cart ready to check out when i started looking more into the 5x. Which from spec release until about 2 weeks ago I'd written off as my next device.
Then I spent some time researching and reading and researching, finally deciding on the 5x. Couldn't be happier. I've never had the MXP in my hands, but I'm in love with my Nexus, and the eventual development will be the cherry on top.
The size and weight of this thing is near perfect. The screen and speaker and sound on earbuds are nowhere near as bad as some may have made it seem.
I literally have 3 gripes about this phone. One major and 2 minor that aren't that big of a deal and I am already over.
1. No SD card. Pretty obvious.
2. 3.5mm jack is on the bottom. No big deal.
3. Bezels take up too much screen space, especially on the sides.
Honestly 2 and 3 never crossed my mind as a deal breaker. And no SD card I can live with, just need to steam my music instead of store it.
Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted to share I was on the fence between these two phones and couldn't be happier that I chose the Nexus.
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The biggest reason is phone size. I wasn't interested in a large phone.
A second reason is that I don't really trust Moto anymore after my experience with a carrier Moto X 2014. Their builds were buggy and their update frequency and availability tapers off quickly over time.

axemred said:
The biggest reason is phone size. I wasn't interested in a large phone.
A second reason is that I don't really trust Moto anymore after my experience with a carrier Moto X 2014. Their builds were buggy and their update frequency and availability tapers off quickly over time.
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This. Plus the fingerprint scanner.
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dev phone
Nexus device provides pure android experience.

Give me your input - just ordered one.

So, just ordered one of these in 4.7".
Background:
I have/am used just Motorola phones in the past. Currently, I am using the Moto G 2013 LTE (1st gen). It is the perfect size phone for me. This phone is amazing for my basic needs. Battery life is out of this world. BUT, the 5mp is garbage. If this phone had at least an 8mp camera, I probably wouldn't have been on the search for another phone.
For a short spurt I've also had the 2nd Gen Moto G.
I also have the Moto G 2015 (3rd gen). This phone also has great battery life, camera is great (to me). BUT it's too bulky for me. Thought I could live with it, for the upgraded camera, but kept finding my self putting my sim card in my 1st gen. After my wife seen I set it aside, she snatched it up.
One of the main reasons I've stuck with the Moto Gs are a balance on price, build quality and dependability, easy unlocking and custom recovery, and great custom ROM (Cyanogenmod) support. And if I wanted to stick with stock firmware, Motorola leaves it almost AOSP. And they actually update the firmware...
Like all good things that pass, Motorola decided to follow the trend of big phones, so I don't have an upgrade path with them unless I go big myself.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...,Alcatel-OneTouch-IDOL-3-4.7/phones/8655,9274 (might have to enable the "view layered" option to get a better comparison of size)
I ordered the 4.7" Icon 3 a few hours ago, now wondering if I made the right choice. On paper, its a great upgrade from my first gen, with almost the same size. I've never used an Alcatel, so I question the durability and support of it. Example, am I going to have a cracked screen if the phone slides out of my pocket in my truck and tumbles onto the floor? Is Alcatel even going to bother with updating it to 5.1.1, or 6.0? If not, is there going to be a stable CM12.1 build for it (real important for me)? Not reading any hint on Alcatel updating this phone to any other version (away from the buggy 5.0) is not giving me great feelings about their service. All the great specs and features and perfect size of this device means nothing without support. If you would do it over, is there another device with similar specs and size, with CM development, that you would get? What about one with better build quality?

Well, I had a 4.7" before I ordered the 5.5". I can say that for its size/specs, its a very snappy phone (I would go as far as to say snappier than the 5.5 on stock, because the 5.5 had a ton of issues early on). The dual front facing speakers gave some amazing sound for such a small device, almost on par with the 5.5" model (hard to compare without some sound equipment, though). As for OS updates, there is a rumor that Alcatel is skipping 5.1 and going straight for 6.0, but I've seen no concrete proof of that. As for development, I know there is work being done on CM for the 4.7", but I haven't kept up with it much since getting the 5.5 (gave the 4.7 to the girlfriend). Bottom line is, truthfully, if you want a phone that has great support and constant software updates from the manufacturer, then you've probably got the wrong phone. I will say, though, that I never had a single issue with uhhh, 5.0.2 (I think?). The specs got the work done, that's for sure, and its construction is sturdier than its looks give it credit for.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G5S Plus, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G5S Plus is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G5S Plus, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G5S Plus is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Well Said..!
I was a pixel user. After trying this phone. I totally moved to G5S. Specifically the battery backup....loving it overall....
Hoping to see ROM's soon...

smooth performance ,
good memory mgmt ,
good display ,
bit a small battery for a 5.5" FHD display !!!
but , SD 625 helps there

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smooth performance ,
good memory mgmt ,
good display ,
bit a small battery for a 5.5" FHD display !!!
but , SD 625 helps there
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So does that mean SD 820 / 825 is optimized for greater battery backup or its just the SD 625 that does the magic?
Just curious to know.

Premkrishna said:
So does that mean SD 820 / 825 is optimized for greater battery backup or its just the SD 625 that does the magic?
Just curious to know.
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both chipsets are great and manufactured on 14nm FinFET Process...
both are battery friendly also due to 14nm process !
for great performance + power efficiency we can consider 820 and ,
for mid-range performance + power efficiency we can consider 625 (625 performs well , not doubt )

Really worth of money

In Love
I am in love with this baby. Only the thing I am upset with Moto team is of the disabled LED light near the front camera. What logic is that? If that is for rooted phones then why rooting should void warranty? Nonsense! They don't want customers to enjoy the features in legal way.

Moto Singh said:
I am in love with this baby. Only the thing I am upset with Moto team is of the disabled LED light near the front camera. What logic is that? If that is for rooted phones then why rooting should void warranty? Nonsense! They don't want customers to enjoy the features in legal way.
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Why do you need LED light when you have Moto Display...?

Geogliff said:
Why do you need LED light when you have Moto Display...?
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Because moto display wakes up at the slightest hint of movement. If I place it on my bed and I sit on the other end of bed it will light up. That's going to waste a lot of battery

1 star less for the camera.

Premkrishna said:
Well Said..!
I was a pixel user. After trying this phone. I totally moved to G5S. Specifically the battery backup....loving it overall....
Hoping to see ROM's soon...
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Hi I am new to xda I would like to ask u on a scale from 1 to 10 how much would u give to pixel and how much to g5s plus.

Aayush124 said:
Hi I am new to xda I would like to ask u on a scale from 1 to 10 how much would u give to pixel and how much to g5s plus.
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Can't speak for Pixel but can speak for Nexus 6P.
I loved my Nexus. Had been a Nexus user since the Nexus 4. The 6P, when it worked, was the capstone of the Nexus range. Gorgeous big screen, well built, excellent performance. I would still be using it now if the well known battery issues (check the forums) hadn't come and bit me. Replaced the battery twice and maybe eked another 6 months out of the phone but I realised recently I needed to get rid of the 6P now if it was to have any resale value.
Looking around there was nothing that real worked as a successor. Wasn't taken with either of the first gen Pixels, and the prices of comparable current phones to the 6P is just insane. Even if I could afford £800-odd I wouldn't pay it for a phone.
For a replacement my criteria was:
5.5 inch or better screen
Half decent ram and processor (so min 3Gb and a Snapdragon 625)
Decent battery life
Ideally no more than £300 - or £400 for a demonstrably premium device.
I had been looking at importing one of the Xiaomi devices, and had briefly looked at a few of the Motorola devices. The G5 series screens were too small, and while I considered the Z Play range they didn't really hit the killer piece/performance mark for me.
When I read the reviews of the G5S Plus I thought "hmmm" - £250 and fulfils my performance, screen size and price criteria. Battery seemed acceptable if not stellar. What sold me was a video where I saw the use of the fingerprint scanner for swipe navigation and the gestures for one handed mode. I'd used a custom rom on the 6P with a one handed mode (which is essential for a big screen) and knowing the G5S Plus had this as stock was the deal clincher.
Have been running it for a little under a week and I have to say I'm impressed.
The screen is very nice. The colours don't "pop" like on the 6P but otherwise it is excellent. Clear and bright, very visible in the day even under direct sunlight. The difference in resolution (1080p v 1400ish p) is not very visible (to my eyes).
Build quality is excellent and it feels just as premium as the 6P did.
The phone runs fluidly and in daily use for email, browsing and general comms needs the experience is pretty much indistinguishable from the 6P. I am also enjoying the swipe to navigate, which is very intuitive and gives me back some of the screen real estate I lost from the 6P.
I am not someone who is particularly bothered about cameras. The couple of pictures I have taken look like the objects I was taking a picture of. The rest I'll leave to someone who cares to give a judgement on!
Overall though, I am very pleased. You get a lot of phone for your money. It is perhaps not quite as good value as the some of the Xiaomi devices, but if you are in the UK I think you'll struggle to find something that's better value and works as well without importing (with all the complications that go with it).
How much would I give the Nexus 6P when the battery is fully charged and it isn't randomly powering off? 9 out of 10 - marvellous phone, the best I've ever had. I will miss it.
How much would I give the Moto G5s? A very close honourable second with 8 out of 10. Does virtually everything the Nexus does (for me) at a much more economical price.

Moto Singh said:
I am in love with this baby. Only the thing I am upset with Moto team is of the disabled LED light near the front camera. What logic is that? If that is for rooted phones then why rooting should void warranty? Nonsense! They don't want customers to enjoy the features in legal way.
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That is my biggest gripe with this phone too. Disabling the led notification light makes no sense. I don't like the Moto notifications. Turning on the screen again and again at the smallest movement uses a lot of battery.
Otherwise, this is a great phone. I moved from the LG Stylo 2 plus. I really like the screen, more RAM, faster processor, and fingerprint scanner on the front.

The phone was good, very good in terms of performance. But I had one only for 11 days because my screen cracked after just a 3 feet drop (!). Sold it and bought a Mi A1, and the latter one is better.

Pretty solid phone. The stock ROM is very sufficient with a non-too-shabby camera and focus features, however I found using Open Camera yielded faster and crisper results. The battery life is quite expected to last a day and charge times are usually an hour and a half with fast charge. There's a much anticipated Oero update on its way which might improve a lot of the features. On custom ROMs, this instance being Oreo, it is very much faster and succintly utilises battery and RAM to apply a wide variety of tweaks. The dev environment is quite good for the XT1806 because of its prevalence in the US, however compatability of ROMs with other NFC-enabled variants (such as the XT1805) would be appreciated. Overall, very solid phone and worth it's price tag.

Just order my 32GB Sanders, Open box from Best Buy, for $212. Its basically new and comes with all accessories, so I couldn't pass up the price. Less than I paid for my G5 Plus! Excited to get it next Tuesday and will post my thoughts on whether it was worth the upgrade over Potter once I receive it.

I could only give this phone 4/5 stars.
I'm glad I pre-ordered the phone directly from Motorola because I paid $299 USD for the 64GB US version and received it as soon as available. It seems to be worth more, now.
I'm NOT glad I ordered the phone at all, because despite having very acceptable specs at a good price, the radios seem to work terribly. It's not my area, it's definitely the phone. Both my girlfriend on her Verizon iPhone and me on my previous Virgin Mobile Moto G3 had 4G LTE all the time at home, and most of the time driving around. Occasionally my girlfriend's VZW phone would have service in rural pockets where my VM/Sprint phone lost network, so for the G5S Plus I switched my carrier to Straight Talk with a ST/Verizon SIM.
Since day one, my G5S Plus has NEVER shown full bars, at any service level. Most of the time AT HOME, I have 1 or 2 bars of oldschool 4G (non-LTE) -- occasionally it drops to 2 bars of 3G and most of the time when I'm driving around it's either a low 3G signal or a low 1X signal - even in the middle of Albany, a city well covered by Verizon, there are spots where MY phone drops to 1X! Meanwhile my girlfriend still has 4G LTE on her iPhone.
This is getting to be a real dealbreaker for me. I found a thread someone else posted about having more or less the same problem. He was using Verzion as well, through a different MVNO. Is this phone known to have poor performance when used on Verizon's network? Lemme ask a different question, is this phone known to have GOOD service on ANY particular network? For anyone?? I would love to know what experience the majority of people are having. Maybe another poll...
I've noticed this problem exists regardless of the ROM (tried stock nougat ROM, lineage oreo, gzr validus oreo - all the same result). My guess is the all-metal body wasn't designed with the pre-existing G5 Plus hardware in mind, since the only things they changed are the screen size, cameras and the chassis, maybe they goofed and the radio inside the metal body sucks. Or it's not selecting the proper APN automatically. I suppose there is a small chance it's a software issue which may be addressed with a future radio update, but for now I'm miffed.
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Just order my 32GB Sanders, Open box from Best Buy, for $212. Its basically new and comes with all accessories, so I couldn't pass up the price. Less than I paid for my G5 Plus! Excited to get it next Tuesday and will post my thoughts on whether it was worth the upgrade over Potter once I receive it.
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I'm glad you got such a good deal. Actually back in September, Amazon had the G5 Plus 64gb (W/OUT ads) for $229 so I bought it. The phone I received worked fine and I don't mind smaller screens, but there was a sort of banding effect in the screen. It was like a transparent layer between the LCD and the backlight where every 10 pixels down, or so, there was a faint line. No matter what was on the screen, I always noticed the banding. I figured it must be a dud so I asked Amazon to send me a replacement. Second G5 Plus looked exactly the same. I returned both. A month later I preordered the G5S Plus and while I know the graphics driver and pixel output are identical to its predecessor, it is a different display panel and this one is flawless.

So my G5s plus arrived today and I've had a little time with it. Here are my initial thoughts on this as a replacement to my G5 plus.
A lot of people might think it's silly to get the G5s plus if you already own the G5 plus, but I'm glad I did. This phone is what the G5 plus should of been originally. The build quality alone is a nice upgrade. It feels so much nicer and sturdier in the hand. And the buttons feel much nicer when pressed and not mushy at all. I actually love the buttons on this device lol.
The little extra screen space is nice and the panels used in this phone are clearly of better quality then the G5 plus. Battery life seems equal to the G5 plus and the camera, sadly, is about equal too. The camera should of been a bigger improvement and is probably my only complaint. It's still a serviceable camera though.
All this added to the fact that I got it cheaper than I paid for my G5 plus, and it has 1GB more ram, doesn't having me feeling any regrets. This is an amazing phone for $214.

one of the worst phones i have ever bought slow laggy near impossible to restore to stock if you unlock bootloader either keep a rom or throw in a bin avoid the phone and motorolla in general not a good phone

I realy like this phone . Good battery backup, cant get this much battery backup from any other 3000 mah battery phone i have used. Minimal heat from screen in brightness conditions, only camera is a bit disappointed, compared to my moto x play. Sound clarity is also good.

Worth Picking Up OnePlus 5 Now a Days or Should I Be Looking at Something Newer

Title says it all. I'm looking to pick up a new phone as my current HTC M9 is finally showing its age.
This is what I'm looking for in a phone:
I am BIG on de-bloating and ad blocking so at minimum root is REQUIRED.
Not required but might as well be, 3.5mm jack
6" screen or smaller, would prefer to stay below 5.6"
must support US AT&T bands
some what new specs
would like to have a LED display
not a requirement but defiantly looked at is battery life/size
I use to be VERY big into installing custom ROMS and Kernels. I've slowly backed off a bit but still love to do it from time to time. My HTC is just running a de-bloated version of the stock developer ROM. My Shield Table on the other hand is running lineage OS as the stock ROM is garbage. Having custom ROM options for this reason makes me feel secure in my purchase which is another reason I'm looking at a OnePlus in general.
From the digging I've done there really isn't much that meets my requirements. The OnePlus 5 seems to be my best option that I can find. The one plus 6 goes outside of my size limits. From the reading I've done it seems like the spec upgrades to the 6 vs the 5 just aren't worth the size changes.
I've also looked at the Asus ZenFone 4 Pro and ZTE nubia Red Magic Mars. The Asus modding community is basically dead other wise it seems to be a great fit. As for the ZTE it just barley meets my size limitations and is a bit of a gamble being that I have no experience with this manufacture before. Other then that my only gripe with the device itself is the LCD display but I currently have a LCD on my HTC so its not to big a deal.
So would you recommend that I pickup a OnePlus 5 or should I be looking at something newer due to the 5 approaching 2 years old now?
If this changes anything I would be picking up the phone from Amazon due to OnePlus only selling their most recent device on their website. I.E. - No warranty / international version https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A500...0955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=mobile&sr=1-2

I would suggest looking for a Oneplus 6 that has proper camera implementation and other little issues resolved. Or a Google Pixel 2XL if you want something that will last you longer in terms of updates ( eBay is having many auctions lately). In general, I would not recommend buying a Oneplus 5.

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Title says it all. I'm looking to pick up a new phone as my current HTC M9 is finally showing its age.
This is what I'm looking for in a phone:
I am BIG on de-bloating and ad blocking so at minimum root is REQUIRED.
Not required but might as well be, 3.5mm jack
6" screen or smaller, would prefer to stay below 5.6"
must support US AT&T bands
some what new specs
would like to have a LED display
not a requirement but defiantly looked at is battery life/size
I use to be VERY big into installing custom ROMS and Kernels. I've slowly backed off a bit but still love to do it from time to time. My HTC is just running a de-bloated version of the stock developer ROM. My Shield Table on the other hand is running lineage OS as the stock ROM is garbage. Having custom ROM options for this reason makes me feel secure in my purchase which is another reason I'm looking at a OnePlus in general.
From the digging I've done there really isn't much that meets my requirements. The OnePlus 5 seems to be my best option that I can find. The one plus 6 goes outside of my size limits. From the reading I've done it seems like the spec upgrades to the 6 vs the 5 just aren't worth the size changes.
I've also looked at the Asus ZenFone 4 Pro and ZTE nubia Red Magic Mars. The Asus modding community is basically dead other wise it seems to be a great fit. As for the ZTE it just barley meets my size limitations and is a bit of a gamble being that I have no experience with this manufacture before. Other then that my only gripe with the device itself is the LCD display but I currently have a LCD on my HTC so its not to big a deal.
So would you recommend that I pickup a OnePlus 5 or should I be looking at something newer due to the 5 approaching 2 years old now?
If this changes anything I would be picking up the phone from Amazon due to OnePlus only selling their most recent device on their website. I.E. - No warranty / international version https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A500...0955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=mobile&sr=1-2
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Existing thread for such discussions is this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179

Here is my opinion about your question.
I recently purchased a op5 about 10 days back. I could have picked up the 6T but until the onscreen fingerprint is a few generation old I dont want to go that way. 6 was out of question due to the notch. 5t has a great screen and my friend is using it but I NEED my fingerprint on the front.(It is my use case could be different for u)
+ the metal body and 3.5 mm jack.
Also, the camera is good enough for daytime shots and the 835 with 6GB is very zippy and I am sure it will remain so for a couple of years. And it does have a great dev scene so later when my device is a year or so old i can just unlock the bootloader and go custom. I love custom rom and used to do that the 1st thing once i got my phone but nowadays i just dont have the time.
Overall i love the phone and feels very premium. I cant give my feedback about the other models u have listed above but personally for me OP5 checks all the boxes.

Go for 5 since it meets almost all on your checklist and besides, there's not much difference from the OP5 to 6/6T in terms of performance. Been using my OP5(6/64(Latest Beta)) for more than a year now but I hadn't have any hiccups or slow performance issues in all the applications. Plus, up till now; The Rom / Kernel development for OP5 is still alive and kicking.
Only issue that I had with my OP5 is the "Device temperature too low" which is already a hardware issue(Motherboard) as per the local tech and honestly speaking, I believe it was my fault as well. Maximing the usage of my OP5 and kept on using it even if it's charging then while I'm sleeping, accidentally covered the phone with my pillow(while AFK on Ragnarok Mobile) thus causing the phone to heat up to the maximum temp(Too hot to even hold the phone with it's case on). As of writing, I'm still waiting for my phone to be fixed by the tech.

Thanks everyone for the input!!
With the research I did today I ended up going with the Galaxy S9 (EXYNOS). Covers all my bullets, its a newer device then the OnePlus 5 with very close to the latest specs and was able to find the 128GB for $560. With it being the EXYNOS processor I should have no issues rooting and debloating it. And if I cant stand the stock rom it looks like they have good lineage OS development for it so I can just jump to that.

I just bought me a Oneplus 5 to replace my old Nexus 6. I bought the 8/128 variant in great shape for $260. I had the seller leave the bootloader unlocked for me so that I can easily root and flash ROMs when I'm ready. I haven't read into how any of that works on the OP5 or what I would need to do. I'd presume that I'd probably just boot into TWRP and flash magisk but I haven't checked any of that out.
So far, I absolutely love the phone. I knew my Nexus 6 was getting slow and was going to literally blow up at some inopportune time but I guess that I didn't realize how awful it was til buying the OP5. I haven't tried anything too taxing on it yet but this has been so smooth that it's hard to imagine anything else.

OP5 still a beast and will run all playstore apps for years to come. (6/8gb ram is insane for 99% of users)
-Also, less pixel (16:9 1080p) makes it faster and gives better battery performance.
-I love the out-of-display buttons, imo is the android signature.
- sound chip is awesome, big sell point for me on my ath-m50s.
I choose this phone especially to reduce my overcompensation (no, money isn't the problem). micro-technology is just killing the planet, so not changing my phone every year (hello apple fan boi) was a huge sell point for me.
Actually ram killed my previous phone, even with swap partition it was too slow ( HTC Desire Z from 2010). So I decided to get the best phone ram wise, xda support wise and chipset wise.
The only issue I have, is Oneplus refuse to sell batteries, this is just stupid, I mean yeah I get they want you to change phone model, or send them back your op for repairs, but still, how many people want to change the battery??? not much! so I dont get why they are so picky on that !
wife's OP3 still a very fast phone even in 2019, snapdragon 820, 6gb ram, but battery doesnt hold the charge. ebay batteries are ****, tired once, and got 1900 mha, phone shutdown @ 20% charge.
I love the op5, and if I dont loose/break it, I should be good for an other 4 years I believe ! :good:

I came from a Pixel XL, the OP5 looked great because of 8GB of RAM (which seems impressive for a phone), a better SoC, and a slightly lower resolution (better 3D performance). Along with all those things being true in-person, the speaker is also a bit better. It also has good LineageOS support.
My main reason for switching was for ease-of changing the battery if I needed to; the Pixel XL needed some adhesive heating and careful lifting of the screen; I wanted no part of that. The OP5 just pries open on clips which I find very nice, and the battery access is from the back.
I got a slightly damaged one (minor drop damage; insides and screen looks ok) for $200; the 8GB/128GB model.