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How to update preinstalled apps?

If i check in the market to update the Youtube app, or Google maps, it says its not even installed because i didnt get it from the market but it came preinstalled.
So how would one go about updating these apps?

SupremeBeaver said:
If i check in the market to update the Youtube app, or Google maps, it says its not even installed because i didnt get it from the market but it came preinstalled.
So how would one go about updating these apps?
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Works fine for me since day one.
If app that came with the phone matches the version on Market, it just says "Installed" without me installing it manually.
If Market version is higher, it says "Update" and lets me download an update and install it.

for me, if i search youtube or google maps it says "Install"..
I just installed the youtube app and now it appears to have installed over the one i had previously..

Same here. Installed FB, Twitter, YouTube etc and they installed over the pre-installed versions.

SupremeBeaver said:
for me, if i search youtube or google maps it says "Install"..
I just installed the youtube app and now it appears to have installed over the one i had previously..
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Yeah, that's normal too.

I found the same to be true. What I did to make sure I get any updates for what came pre-installed is I looked up each app in the Market, and if I found it, but it did not say "Installed", I installed it, so now all my apps are linked to the Market, and will get updated when needed. Otherwise you will be stuck with the version that came on the phone forever.

Same with me the pre installed apps dont seem to be recogni8zed as installed by the Market i have had to download facebook, youtube etc like other DHD users

For me, only Adobe Reader & Flash were not recognized. Manually installed Reader and I froze Flash with Titanium Backup so didn't update that one.

Titanium backup can on rooted devices, at least, integrate newer updates into the ROM via batch menu

SupremeBeaver said:
If i check in the market to update the Youtube app, or Google maps, it says its not even installed because i didnt get it from the market but it came preinstalled.
So how would one go about updating these apps?
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I was noticing the same thing a moments ago...
so, can I safely install the update over the current?
Will this prevent to get any system update?
thank you in advance for the answers ( 1st time android user xD )

Salv0 said:
I was noticing the same thing a moments ago...
so, can I safely install the update over the current?
Will this prevent to get any system update?
thank you in advance for the answers ( 1st time android user xD )
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i installed it over the preinstalled ones and it works fine.
Im not too sure about this preventing system updates though. But i did notice that if you go into Settings>Applications>Manage Aplications then find the app there, there is an option to undo the update incase it blocks system updates.

SupremeBeaver said:
i installed it over the preinstalled ones and it works fine.
Im not too sure about this preventing system updates though. But i did notice that if you go into Settings>Applications>Manage Aplications then find the app there, there is an option to undo the update incase it blocks system updates.
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oh! cool thanks

Salv0 said:
I was noticing the same thing a moments ago...
so, can I safely install the update over the current?
Will this prevent to get any system update?
thank you in advance for the answers ( 1st time android user xD )
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It doesn't block system updates as updates to apps never touch system partition and OTA only checks system partition for consistency.

Eddie1506 said:
It doesn't block system updates as updates to apps never touch system partition and OTA only checks system partition for consistency.
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unless you use Titanium to integrate the updates into the ROM, I do this to keep things simple as I don't really like having two versions of the program on my device unneccesarily, but even in this case the system updates overwrite the /system partition anyway

ghostofcain said:
unless you use Titanium to integrate the updates into the ROM, I do this to keep things simple as I don't really like having two versions of the program on my device unneccesarily, but even in this case the system updates overwrite the /system partition anyway
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Yes, integrating updates from Titanum Backup touches /system partition, but regular Market updates don't.

I've run into a bug with the new youtube app. If you have a video loading and let the screen come off. After unlocking it, the video lags a lot doesnt respond to touches. You can exit out of the app but then the audio of the video doesnt stop playing. No choice but to restart the phone. This happened to me twice this morning.
Do you guys think this is a bug with the youtube app or maybe the Desire HD because i recall the preintalled youtube app had a major bug as well on the DHD.

"Your device isn't compatible with this version"

My wife's phone...
Anyone know why she should be getting this message for the likes of Google chrome, drive, play books, search, etc, etc... clearly, it can't be true!
I have her bootloader unlocked, rooted, running xposed with a couple of modules, and a tweaked kernel (ziddey's USB-OTG tweak).
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I can't get any of these apps to update!
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Possibly need to update Google services , that said I have never came across or seen anyone come across this problem.
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Yeah, I'm completely baffled. No one else with ziddey's kernel tweak is complaining about this, so I'm hesitant to suspect it.
Cleared cache and dalvick, fixed permissions, cleared data on the play market and vpn'd into the US, still same problem.
I'm not sure how I would update Google services... isn't that something that would update automatically?
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basily said:
Yeah, I'm completely baffled. No one else with ziddey's kernel tweak is complaining about this, so I'm hesitant to suspect it.
Cleared cache and dalvick, fixed permissions, cleared data on the play market and vpn'd into the US, still same problem.
I'm not sure how I would update Google services... isn't that something that would update automatically?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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No it will not auto update, but it will usually prompt you once you update an app that needs it... there will be a "Security Update required" notification in the drop-down, if you swipe it away or don't allow it to update, Android will gladly let you but your apps will not function properly that require the update. The current version installed can be found in Settings-Apps-All- Google Play Services and should be 4.3.25 (1117461-036) as of this posting
It will also not allow you to search or find it in your Apps list in the Play Store without the direct link, so here it is: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
Hope that helps, because otherwise a factory default might be in order, and if the problem still persists, reflashing stock images could be required.

acejavelin said:
No it will not auto update, but it will usually prompt you once you update an app that needs it... there will be a "Security Update required" notification in the drop-down, if you swipe it away or don't allow it to update, Android will gladly let you but your apps will not function properly that require the update. The current version installed can be found in Settings-Apps-All- Google Play Services and should be 4.3.25 (1117461-036) as of this posting
It will also not allow you to search or find it in your Apps list in the Play Store without the direct link, so here it is: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
Hope that helps, because otherwise a factory default might be in order, and if the problem still persists, reflashing stock images could be required.
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I guess I'll have to flash back to stock - no idea why this is still happening...
I tried sideloading the latest Google Play Services, it worked, but still the "you're device isn't compatible..." error appears for many apps. Then I tried deleting accounts, clearing cache and dalvick, fixing permissions, then re-adding accounts. Same. Then I tried sideloading the latest updates of a couple of google apps (books and drive) - it worked, but still the error message in the Play Store.
Oh well. I guess that's that.

Did you modify the screen resolution? if so that could be why you are receiving that error. I experienced that with my Galaxy Nexus. If you keep resolution stock it shouldn't display that message unless for whatever reason the app truly isn't compatible with the phone.

Ive had this issie with certain apps that i KNOW are compatible with my phone. Whenever i get this error, i just use an alternate source, like blackmart, or googling the app you want to download and download it from somewhere besides google play.
Then again, since you are running a lot of custom things, you may want to try starting over from stock, not customizing anything, then try downloading those apps and seeing if your still getting that error.

Thanks, but the apps most definitely are compatible with the phone. They're Google apps on a nexus phone! And they're already installed (either stock or via the market, with no errors).
I'm aware that I can sideload the apps and have done do so successfully with a couple of them, but that really defeats the convenience of automatic updates, especially seeing as it's my wife's phone.
I will, when I have time, try factory restoring or flashing stock and going from there. The mods I'm using are fairly minor, but I suppose something, somewhere must have gotten screwed up.
Oh well, thanks for all the help anyway.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

If your rooted, download lucky patcher, and theres an option to download a modded google play store. Have no idea if this will help with your issue, but its just an idea if wanna wanna give it a shot.

sinndissension said:
If your rooted, download lucky patcher, and theres an option to download a modded google play store. Have no idea if this will help with your issue, but its just an idea if wanna wanna give it a shot.
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He already has the apps installed, that's not the issue, these are even stock Google apps saying they are incompatible after successfully installed. Unfortunately this is probably a wipe and reinstall situation now.
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or he should watch at the build.prop or there is something edited or need to wipe data from google playstore or there is some xposed module which is causing it I don't know but if you edited a lot on that custom rom with kernel and like that backup it first don't go immediately to stock or else it was just wasted time for you. It could also be your dpi but I don't think that's it also wipe cache in recovery that might work.

I'm sure this will work for you.
Open Settings app → Tap on Apps → Look for the Google Play Store and tap on it → Press on three-dots at the right corner and Tap on Uninstall updates → Tap on Ok to confirm
That's it!

Suraj Padmasali said:
I'm sure this will work for you.
Open Settings app → Tap on Apps → Look for the Google Play Store and tap on it → Press on three-dots at the right corner and Tap on Uninstall updates → Tap on Ok to confirm
That's it!
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Master necromancer!

cant reinstall Google Search

Hi, I've got a problem I cant fix.
I wanted to downgrade Google Search so I uninstalled updates and it went back to stock. I then installed the version I wanted. v3.1
Now, this is my problem. I DONT want it to show in Google Play as an update so I tried to make a updated APK like I have with many other apps where I like older versions.
Now I used Lucky Patcher and that didn't like making the modded APK but it did back a backup. So I clicked RESTORE BACKUP. and guess what? It deleted the app instead of restoring it.
Now when I try to install it from either any APK or even directly from Google Play it keeps saying the device is full and fails to install.
I have over 1GB free. I've deleted about 10 apps and still keeps saying device is full. I've reinstalled those 10 apps and they fit and install without problems and I still have over 1GB free.
HOW do i get Google Search reinstalled? I dont want to reflash it as I will loose ROOT and that was a big enough ***** to install the first time.
I have a stock recovery menu. Rooted Galaxy S4 i9505 4.3 official firmware.
I did delete delvik cache and the cache in recovery menu.
I cant find any other ways to restore it? I tried titanium backup with the backup I have of it but that never ends when I click restore. It doesn't finish, doesn't do anything just sits there saying its restoring but never stops still I kill it even after 30 mins it was still restoring.
Anyone??
I did try Titanium Backup and made a update.zip and that fails both from SDCARD and ADB as its not signed and its stock recovery.
Do I have to install a custom recovery? Can I use the one I used with 4.2.2 or do I have to get a 4.3 version? That was i9505-cwm-recovery-6.0.3.2-4.tar

Anyone?
I'm stumped. I dont have a clue whats going on and why it wont install and why its saying its full when its got 1GB free.

NakedFaerie said:
Hi, I've got a problem I cant fix.
I wanted to downgrade Google Search so I uninstalled updates and it went back to stock. I then installed the version I wanted. v3.1
Now, this is my problem. I DONT want it to show in Google Play as an update so I tried to make a updated APK like I have with many other apps where I like older versions.
Now I used Lucky Patcher and that didn't like making the modded APK but it did back a backup. So I clicked RESTORE BACKUP. and guess what? It deleted the app instead of restoring it.
Now when I try to install it from either any APK or even directly from Google Play it keeps saying the device is full and fails to install.
I have over 1GB free. I've deleted about 10 apps and still keeps saying device is full. I've reinstalled those 10 apps and they fit and install without problems and I still have over 1GB free.
HOW do i get Google Search reinstalled? I dont want to reflash it as I will loose ROOT and that was a big enough ***** to install the first time.
I have a stock recovery menu. Rooted Galaxy S4 i9505 4.3 official firmware.
I did delete delvik cache and the cache in recovery menu.
I cant find any other ways to restore it? I tried titanium backup with the backup I have of it but that never ends when I click restore. It doesn't finish, doesn't do anything just sits there saying its restoring but never stops still I kill it even after 30 mins it was still restoring.
Anyone??
I did try Titanium Backup and made a update.zip and that fails both from SDCARD and ADB as its not signed and its stock recovery.
Do I have to install a custom recovery? Can I use the one I used with 4.2.2 or do I have to get a 4.3 version? That was i9505-cwm-recovery-6.0.3.2-4.tar
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Im be honest with you
Happened to me once and unfortunately solved by flashing stock again

RubbaBand said:
Im be honest with you
Happened to me once and unfortunately solved by flashing stock again
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Thanks for the reply.
Was hoping not to do that.
BUT, everything still works without it anyway and as it stole the use of my Bluetooth button it wont be missed but I do like the Google Now alerts.
What happened with me was the latest few versions stole the link to the bluetooth button. Before when you pressed the button you had the option of S-Voice or Google Search and now the newer versions dont have that option and always use Google Search and you have no way to revert back to S-Voice. I had Google Search disabled for a while but I want to use Google Now so I need the app but not the new version so an old version works fine. I think the last is 3.1? I didn't try 3.2 but I know 3.4 has that forced Google Search now.

RubbaBand said:
Im be honest with you
Happened to me once and unfortunately solved by flashing stock again
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I got it installed and fixed a few other apps at the same time.
I went to root /data/data and found the google search was a 0kb file so I deleted it and it installed fine after that. I also had a few other apps that were playing up so I deleted those folders and they now install and work fine.
So in the end no need to reflash just remove the corrupt files and its all fixed.
I did find out Google Search 3.3 is the last of the good versions, 3.4 is when it steals your bluetooth's connection and uses it for its own without letting you choose default.
As S-Voice is a Samsung feature those not with a Samsung phone wont care but those like me that use S-Voice will be annoyed that the latest Google Search removes the choice. I recommend to disable so it goes back to default version then get v3.3 and install that and use an app to remove it from updating in Google Play then all will be good.

it's solved right?
but anyway maybe you could try to flash gapps . Don't now if it will works but i good to try anyway ;D

NakedFaerie said:
Anyone?
I'm stumped. I dont have a clue whats going on and why it wont install and why its saying its full when its got 1GB free.
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When uninstalling on stock, you only delete apk file. You have also to delete corresponding odex odex file in system/
Then, you have to remove also corresponding folder in system/data/data
Then, you can try to reinstall the app.

petrusconsult said:
When uninstalling on stock, you only delete apk file. You have also to delete corresponding odex odex file in system/
Then, you have to remove also corresponding folder in system/data/data
Then, you can try to reinstall the app.
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I fixed it. There was a corrupt file in /data/data and as soon as I deleted it, it finally installed fine after that.
Now trying to stop Google Play from upgrading and also removing it from the update list is another problem.

NakedFaerie said:
I fixed it. There was a corrupt file in /data/data and as soon as I deleted it, it finally installed fine after that.
Now trying to stop Google Play from upgrading and also removing it from the update list is another problem.
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You have to enter the GPlay Shop's setting and disabla autoupdate.

petrusconsult said:
You have to enter the GPlay Shop's setting and disabla autoupdate.
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I do that and it doesn't work with Titanium Backup.
I want to remove it completely so it doesnt even see it in the Google play store.
In Titanium Backup you can remove it from Google Play but that option doesn't work as I've had it removed twice and its updated both times.
So far its working. I've turned it into a user app and removed it from the store and its not updated yet but I will give it till tomorrow and if it auto updated like the last 2 times I will just uninstall it again and not use it. Its more trouble than its worth anyway.

NakedFaerie said:
I want to remove it completely so it doesnt even see it in the Google play store.
In Titanium Backup you can remove it from Google Play but that option doesn't work as I've had it removed twice and its updated both times.
So far its working. I've turned it into a user app and removed it from the store and its not updated yet but I will give it till tomorrow and if it auto updated like the last 2 times I will just uninstall it again and not use it. Its more trouble than its worth anyway.
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You have also to remove manually froam /data/data the folder of that app, if not, system will see it as installed

petrusconsult said:
You have also to remove manually froam /data/data the folder of that app, if not, system will see it as installed
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I want it installed, I want to use Google Now but I don't want to update to the bad version and I don't want Google Play to keep telling me there is an update so I want it removed from Google Play.
As I said Titanium Backup does have a "Detach from Market" option which does remove it but after a few hours it updates anyway so that option doesn't work.
When you make a custom APK it's not seen in the Market so that works but Google Search doesn't work when you customise the APK.

NakedFaerie said:
I want it installed, I want to use Google Now but I don't want to update to the bad version and I don't want Google Play to keep telling me there is an update so I want it removed from Google Play.
As I said Titanium Backup does have a "Detach from Market" option which does remove it but after a few hours it updates anyway so that option doesn't work.
When you make a custom APK it's not seen in the Market so that works but Google Search doesn't work when you customise the APK.
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In GPlay's settings, there are options "do not update automaticly" and, the first one "do not notify about updates"

petrusconsult said:
In GPlay's settings, there are options "do not update automaticly" and, the first one "do not notify about updates"
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I've unticked that box so Google Search won't auto update but it's still in the update list and it still gives notifications that it needs to be updated.
It needs to be removed from Google Play, that's the only way to stop it from updating or asking to update and it's the only app I can't customise that I've tried. I've modded many apps and they work and they are removed from Google Play but this one I can't.
I also want other apps to auto update so I dont want to turn that option off.

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I've unticked that box so Google Search won't auto update but it's still in the update list and it still gives notifications that it needs to be updated.
It needs to be removed from Google Play, that's the only way to stop it from updating or asking to update and it's the only app I can't customise that I've tried. I've modded many apps and they work and they are removed from Google Play but this one I can't.
I also want other apps to auto update so I dont want to turn that option off.
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So, You can't eat the cookie and have a cookie...

fixed
petrusconsult said:
So, You can't eat the cookie and have a cookie...
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YES YOU CAN.
Just install Market Fixer and that removed it. But it does sometimes show up after a reboot. I rebooted twice and it showed up the first time but not the 2nd time.
So it looks like I've fixed the problem.
Titanium Backup's 'Detach from Market' doesn't work but Market Fixer does the same thing and that does work.
The problem I think is its a system app, its used by my Google account, its used by half the system so its not easy to hide from the App Store. As other apps aren't used the same way they are easily hidden but Google Search isn't.

Help please!

So yesterday I was browsing the Google Play Store when I noticed Google keyboard wasn't installed even though I have it so I attempt to install it again and it failed. I thought it was just a bug so I left it and the next day when I restarted my phone Google keyboard just disappeared. I can't use it anymore I can only third-party keyboard from playstore. Help please I need to get Google keyboard back because I'm so far not liking third-party keyboard. I don't know what I did wrong but tried to fix it by wiping system data and reflash the ROM and G apps but that didn't fix it. So please help me fix this problem thank you in advance.

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...3-127065177-armeabi-v7a-android-apk-download/
download and install

miffymiffy said:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...3-127065177-armeabi-v7a-android-apk-download/
download and install
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It says "this app conflict with the existing app by the same name" Google keyboard doesn't show up on titanium backup though.

In your apps settings, check for disabled apps and see if it's there to reenable

miffymiffy said:
In your apps settings, check for disabled apps and see if it's there to reenable
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How do I do that I'm running cm 14.1 android 7.1 and I don't see that option. BTW if I select show system apps, it's not in there either. BTW I just tested, disable apps will show up on titanium back-up as frozen and a option to defrost but google keyboard isn't even in titanium back-up.

MicroG/Tingle Lineage OS installed; no push notifications but the errors for GPS gone

I have the MicroG apps, as well as tingle on my Moto G4 Play.
For apps that require Google Play Services (Protonmail, Nextdoor, etc), the "missing Google Play Services" errors are gone, but I still don't receive push notifications. Nextdoor app simply crashes with the error "Nextdoor has stopped - Open app again or Mute until device restarts"
This thread regarding Unifiedlp is similar to what I see occurring in Microg: https://github.com/ale5000-git/tingle/issues/23
The dev states, "This usually happen when you install the app as user app, on Android 7+ it should be installed as system app" - can any one point me to info on how to do that?
This is my first time installing a new OS to a phone.

The easiest way is to use this: microG unofficial installer

ale5000 said:
The easiest way is to use this: microG unofficial installer
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I already installed microg & tingle on my device; I can uninstall the microg apps to use this, but how do I uninstall tingle (I don;t see any presence for it)?
Will this installer simply overwrite/ignore anything that already exists?
I think there may simply be a setting I'm overlooking, perhaps.. like, unifiedlp is all unticked in the self-check, but the app shows under settings, so it exists and is installed.
Not sure what else to check

z0m8i3 said:
I already installed microg & tingle on my device; I can uninstall the microg apps to use this, but how do I uninstall tingle (I don;t see any presence for it)?
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Tingle isn't a thing that can be installed, it simply patch a file on the device.
It is needed for microG so if you use it, I suggest to NOT undo the patch.
z0m8i3 said:
Will this installer simply overwrite/ignore anything that already exists?
I think there may simply be a setting I'm overlooking, perhaps.. like, unifiedlp is all unticked in the self-check, but the app shows under settings, so it exists and is installed.
Not sure what else to check
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Yes, the installer will simply overwrite anything that already exists (except if you have already installed microG on the /system with custom filenames but it is unlikely).

Thanks to the Signal messaging app, I clued in on what I was doing wrong.
If anyone else researching this issue stumbles across this, here's what fixed it:
1) Update the affected app, if updates are available
2) microG Settings -> Google Cloud Messaging: Enable, not sure if I needed Google device registration, but I enabled it, too; as well as Google SafetyNet
Today I received my first notification from one of the apps I was struggling with. Nothing for Protonmail yet, though.

z0m8i3 said:
Thanks to the Signal messaging app, I clued in on what I was doing wrong.
If anyone else researching this issue stumbles across this, here's what fixed it:
1) Update the affected app, if updates are available
2) microG Settings -> Google Cloud Messaging: Enable, not sure if I needed Google device registration, but I enabled it, too; as well as Google SafetyNet
Today I received my first notification from one of the apps I was struggling with. Nothing for Protonmail yet, though.
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SafetyNet isn't needed for most apps.
If you use Push notifications you must enable Google device registration and Google Cloud Messaging.
Reinstall all the apps installed before microG (it is needed to get the permissions); also in case an app don't have working push notification you must also delete its app data.

ale5000 said:
SafetyNet isn't needed for most apps.
If you use Push notifications you must enable Google device registration and Google Cloud Messaging.
Reinstall all the apps installed before microG (it is needed to get the permissions); also in case an app don't have working push notification you must also delete its app data.
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Thank you very much for the explanations!! Super helpful! Proton hasn't updated/reinstalled since I installed microG; uninstalling now.
I disabled SafetyNet.
in case an app don't have working push notification you must also delete its app data
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Where can I do that, or is it done automatically upon uninstall?

z0m8i3 said:
Thank you very much for the explanations!! Super helpful! Proton hasn't updated/reinstalled since I installed microG; uninstalling now.
I disabled SafetyNet.
Where can I do that, or is it done automatically upon uninstall?
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It is in the Android settings inside Apps, but if you uninstall it will also clear data.