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Sound quality (headphones) and DAC

Guys please post about the sound quality, loudness and DAC used in this post. Many might get to have a hands on and they can tell us more!
And this is regarding Headphones/earbuds only. Not speakers as we alrady kow they are powerful.
Music is important to many here i am sure

ethan3686 said:
Guys please post about the sound quality, loudness and DAC used in this post. Many might get to have a hands on and they can tell us more!
And this is regarding Headphones/earbuds only. Not speakers as we alrady kow they are powerful.
Music is important to many here i am sure
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First of all the One is freaking loud and has tons of bass and the audio is really clear aswell. all these things are better than the great experience I got from the xperia Z, the decidng factor for me to choose the one over the z was the fact in headsets the one is clear, much louder and much more bass and music what I mainly use on my phone.

Thanks man..i think we discussed this in XZ thread as well..I guess both of us have the same taste in music and sound quality alongwith loudness
Did you go hands on with the HTC ONE?? And how?

Well I sure hope it sounds better than the One X & the One X+ cause they where pants.
Dreadful audio, beatsaudio is a pile of poo. Just put a good quality DAC in & Ill use Poweramp - Sorted.

@home said:
Well I sure hope it sounds better than the One X & the One X+ cause they where pants.
Dreadful audio, beatsaudio is a pile of poo. Just put a good quality DAC in & Ill use Poweramp - Sorted.
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Yes agreed! Gud quality amp makes all the difference..softwares cant replace DAC.

ethan3686 said:
Thanks man..i think we discussed this in XZ thread as well..I guess both of us have the same taste in music and sound quality alongwith loudness
Did you go hands on with the HTC ONE?? And how?
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I went down to Phones 4 u, oxford street (bond street) shortly after the launch to play with it, to see if it was worth changing to the one from the z and from my 3min play with the one, i pre ordered it. then went back to play with it some more.
I found the camera/video and video sound better than the side not a major difference but i thought images were sharper and audio was alot better on video (my opinion)
sound in headphones is far better than the z in clarity, loudness and bass (fact)
screen is better (fact)
I also find the UI on the one to be better (my opinion)
phone is faster and smoother than the z (fact)
obviously loud speaker is better (fact)
also when watching movies you can take pics with a dedicated on screen button rather than holding down power button/down on volume button which didn't work all the time.(fact)
things I didn't like about the one is no memory card slot and the fact in the menu you have to scroll up/down instead of left/right not a biggy though.
this is not to say the z is rubbish as it really isn't but just in major areas I find the one better.
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@home said:
Well I sure hope it sounds better than the One X & the One X+ cause they where pants.
Dreadful audio, beatsaudio is a pile of poo. Just put a good quality DAC in & Ill use Poweramp - Sorted.
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Audio is far better than one x and one x+ imo. for the first time on a phone I wont have to use power amp.

Does anyone knows wich DAC does the s600 use? Audio quality is my main concern and a quality DAC like the wolfson found on the exynos 4 and the cirrus found on the iPhone 5.
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Wow cool man..Its always nice to hear from a person who has had a hands on experience.
Just few questions..
1. Like in butterfly the speaker and headphones had separate amps..does HTC ONE also has one for headphones? i know it has for speakers.
2. Does it feel smaller in hand? i mean its 4.7 screen is taller rather than wider [breadth]..so does that make it look like iphone 5?

ethan3686 said:
Wow cool man..Its always nice to hear from a person who has had a hands on experience.
Just few questions..
1. Like in butterfly the speaker and headphones had separate amps..does HTC ONE also has one for headphones? i know it has for speakers.
2. Does it feel smaller in hand? i mean its 4.7 screen is taller rather than wider [breadth]..so does that make it look like iphone 5?
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despite being taller than the s3, it certainly doesnt feel it. It also feels somewhat smaller than the z (even though on paper it is minimal) and better to hold in the hand despite being thicker but thats it because the back is rounded.
I dont know if it has a amp for the headphone jack but based on that experience it really doesn't need one if it doesn't have one that thing is crazily loud and bassy.
Infact i couldnt even have it on max volume just like with 8x otherwise you'll lose your hearing whereas on the xperia z i wish it was a bit louder tbh and I proved that I was right today because I went down oxford street played with it in the three store again and I could hear noise from the traffic outside and the sales assistant that was talking to me which isnt good imo. I like my music loud so when i am outside i cant hear a thing and also bassy aswell and the one covers this by far.
it does sort of resumble a iphone 5 in the way it looks tbh.
I just cannot wait until the 15th its pain staking that I waited so long for the z and now its nearly here now i have another long wait for the one.

Thanks for the inputs..I understand how u feel man..Same here...XZ is round the corner but ONE is coming on 15 march india..Patience has its limits too

Great device. I want to love it. But history tells us that thus far nobody has delivered outstanding audio from a Qualcomm SOC. I hope this is the one where they prove me wrong!
Audio aside, this could be the one where HTC finally takes a BIG bite out of Samsung. Except for audio concerns, I would be ordering one today! I will be anxiously awaiting tests.

R89SONY said:
I went down to Phones 4 u, oxford street (bond street) shortly after the launch to play with it, to see if it was worth changing to the one from the z and from my 3min play with the one, i pre ordered it. then went back to play with it some more.
I found the camera/video and video sound better than the side not a major difference but i thought images were sharper and audio was alot better on video (my opinion)
sound in headphones is far better than the z in clarity, loudness and bass (fact)
screen is better (fact)
I also find the UI on the one to be better (my opinion)
phone is faster and smoother than the z (fact)
obviously loud speaker is better (fact)
also when watching movies you can take pics with a dedicated on screen button rather than holding down power button/down on volume button which didn't work all the time.(fact)
things I didn't like about the one is no memory card slot and the fact in the menu you have to scroll up/down instead of left/right not a biggy though.
this is not to say the z is rubbish as it really isn't but just in major areas I find the one better.
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Audio is far better than one x and one x+ imo. for the first time on a phone I wont have to use power amp.
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I ordered Silver, can u tell me how is viewing angle between Z and One ? which one do you feel more premium feel?

Viewing Angles is easy: the Z has a TN panel (which results in very bad viewing angles, as some sites such as phonearena suggest). SLCD3 still uses IPS as far as I know and on some pictures it was clear that the viewing angles are still superb
Just one glint at a picture of the Z and it was clear to me that the display just doesn't meet the expectations. Blacks and saturation/contrast in general are terrible. What's the point of 1080p, where you see the difference to 720p in some cases when you look closely when at first glance the contrast/blacks totally turn you off?

onlinejobwork said:
I ordered Silver, can u tell me how is viewing angle between Z and One ? which one do you feel more premium feel?
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viewing angles and infact the whole screen was just better on the one not to say i think the z is rubbish, just that the htc is better. also i feel that the one is more premium due to aluminium design again not to say the z doesnt feel premium. TBH the z is a great phone just the one is a greater phone and i believe had htc used 16gb memory + memory card slot or even have the 64gb version in the uk it would sell more phones as I know people complain about only having 32gb (about 26gb free memory).

R89SONY said:
viewing angles and infact the whole screen was just better on the one not to say i think the z is rubbish, just that the htc is better. also i feel that the one is more premium due to aluminium design again not to say the z doesnt feel premium. TBH the z is a great phone just the one is a greater phone and i believe had htc used 16gb memory + memory card slot or even have the 64gb version in the uk it would sell more phones as I know people complain about only having 32gb (about 26gb free memory).
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It has 64GB version.
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AayushDhuria said:
It has 64GB version.
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I believe the 64Gb version is US-only (Or NA-only).

AayushDhuria said:
It has 64GB version.
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Where can I find it?

Is good :good:

Audio will be as outstanding as htc butterfly if not better and thats best sounding phone according to gsmarena htc butterfly review as ONE has same DAC. Read the review of butterfly at gsmarena to go in more details
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hapticc said:
Audio will be as outstanding as htc butterfly if not better and thats best sounding phone according to gsmarena htc butterfly review as ONE has same DAC. Read the review of butterfly at gsmarena to go in more details
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http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_butterfly-review-888p7.php
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Noise/dynamic range have not measured up to iphone & samsung/wolfson on any snapdragon phone to date. I hope this is the one.
I wish somebody would test hacked Android phones. For example, all the reviews whine about low volume but it is a five minute root/file edit on many phones.

Loss of DRM Keys

If anyone has an unlocked bootloader, please help us confirm what works and what doesn't work.
WARNING: CURRENT REPORTS SHOW THAT UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER MAY DEGRADE LOW-LIGHT CAMERA QUALITY.
* = Confirmed on Z3, not Z3 Compact
Confirmed Working
TrackID (Source, Source)
Timeshift Camera (Source, Source)
Face-in Camera (Source, Source)
Surround Settings* (Source, Source)
ClearAudio+ (Source, Source)
S-Force Front Surround (Source)
Tap2Wake (Source, Source)
BIONZ Engine (Source)
Reported Working
None at the time
Confirmed Not Working
Bravia Engine (X-Reality, Super Vivid) (Source, Source)
"Advanced camera algorithms" (including low-light processing) (Source, see Anna Aleryd's reply, Source)
Sony Entertainment Media (Music Unlimited, Videos Unlimited, etc.) (Source)
Audio Quality and Volume Enhancements (Unlocked Bootloader phones suffer from lower sound quality and volume) (Source)
PS4 Remote Play (Source)
Reported Not Working
Miracast (Source)
MirrorLink (Source)
Unknown
Sony Triluminos Engine?
Other Camera Features/Modes?
DSEE HX?
Noise Cancelling Features (w/ Headphones)?
Headphones Settings?
Hi-res Audio over DAC?

MirrorLink and Miracast stop working.

Iruwen said:
MirrorLink and Miracast stop working.
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Can anyone confirm this?

TrackID will also stop working.

degraaff said:
TrackID will also stop working.
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Have you unlocked the boot loader and can confirm that?
Coz post #21 in the following thread says otherwise: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55719129
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tocirah1 said:
If anyone finds anything different after losing DRM keys, please reply to this thread so we can have a running list.
Known problems
None yet
Reported (unconfirmed) problems
MirrorLink stops working (Iruwen)
Miracast stops working (Iruwen)
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Maybe it's also good to list things that are confirmed to work after unlocking?
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muken said:
Have you unlocked the boot loader and can confirm that?
Coz post #21 in the following thread says otherwise: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55719129
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Maybe it's also good to list things that are confirmed to work after unlocking?
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That sounds like a great idea!

I have an unlocked bootloader and TrackID works fine.

tilal6991 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader and TrackID works fine.
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Any news on any of the other functions?

tocirah1 said:
Any news on any of the other functions?
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TBH I've put the rest in the "magic and possibly placebo" category in my head. I don't see much difference between when features like Bravia and BINOZ are turned on and turned off.
Plus I'm not on stock ATM.

tilal6991 said:
TBH I've put the rest in the "magic and possibly placebo" category in my head. I don't see much difference between when features like Bravia and BINOZ are turned on and turned off.
Plus I'm not on stock ATM.
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Is your CM build working well for you?

dillalade said:
Is your CM build working well for you?
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Well it's a WIP so it's not really very usable. Quite a few things a broken and I have no plans of releasing anything until I am happy with the result.

degraaff said:
TrackID will also stop working.
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You can install TrackID on any device, it's on the play store, why would it stop working
Sent from my Xperia Z2

On older xperia phones, trackid couldn't work without DRM keys, but I guess Sony removed that requirement.

I have just unlocked my Z3C. Anything I should confirm working/not working?

muken said:
I have just unlocked my Z3C. Anything I should confirm working/not working?
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There's a list of stuff in the OP that's been either only Reported as working/not working or completely unconfirmed. I'd really appreciate it if you could check on those. For reference:
MirrorLink
Miracast
Sony Entertainment Media (Music Unlimited, Videos Unlimited, etc.)
BIONZ Engine
X-Reality and other Album Settings (Bravia Engine)
Sony Triluminos Engine
Other Camera Features/Modes
DSEE HX
Audio Surround Settings
S-Force Front Surround
Noise Cancelling Features (w/ Headphones)
Audio Headphones Settings
Hi-res Audio over DAC
You probably don't have the equipment to test all of this stuff, but anything you could confirm would help.
Thanks!

tocirah1 said:
MirrorLink
Miracast
Sony Entertainment Media (Music Unlimited, Videos Unlimited, etc.)
BIONZ Engine
X-Reality and other Album Settings (Bravia Engine)
Sony Triluminos Engine
Other Camera Features/Modes
DSEE HX
Audio Surround Settings
S-Force Front Surround
Noise Cancelling Features (w/ Headphones)
Audio Headphones Settings
Hi-res Audio over DAC
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I can confirm that X-Reality / Super Vivid Mode does NOT work (I tested before unlock and then it worked)
Time Shift Camera works
Face In Camera works
I have to test the camera more, since I'm not sure if the quality has changed, the images may have lower quality... Will compare to a Z1C which is locked.

tocirah1 said:
There's a list of stuff in the OP that's been either only Reported as working/not working or completely unconfirmed. I'd really appreciate it if you could check on those. For reference:
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It seems like the camera is ruined ...
Please see attached comparison between unlocked Z3C (on top) and untouched Z1C (bottom). This is really bad news!
Why can't Sony inform the users about trivial features like this getting ruined, instead of talking about them not being able to take responsibility for custom ROMs...

muken said:
It seems like the camera is ruined ...
Please see attached comparison between unlocked Z3C (on top) and untouched Z1C (bottom). This is really bad news!
Why can't Sony inform the users about trivial features like this getting ruined, instead of talking about them not being able to take responsibility for custom ROMs...
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Really sorry to hear that =/
Are you sure you're not just on different shooting modes for the two cameras? Also how did you take that photo, with a third camera?

tocirah1 said:
Really sorry to hear that =/
Are you sure you're not just on different shooting modes for the two cameras? Also how did you take that photo, with a third camera?
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I manually selected HDR mode on both phones, so it is exactly the same mode.
Just to get a quick comparison, I took a picture with a third camera. On the screen you can see that the quality is quite poor. That was why I suspected something was not right in my previous post and grabbed my wifes Z1C.
So, yes I'm sure. The quality of the shoots in low light are not very good at all any more.

muken said:
I manually selected HDR mode on both phones, so it is exactly the same mode.
Just to get a quick comparison, I took a picture with a third camera. On the screen you can see that the quality is quite poor. That was why I suspected something was not right in my previous post and grabbed my wifes Z1C.
So, yes I'm sure. The quality of the shoots in low light are not very good at all any more.
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Maybe try to take the same photo in Manual 20MP mode without any SCN? That should preclude any Sony stuff and should produce a similar photo. Maybe it has to do with your display settings? Could you upload the photos you took directly?

How to record calls?

Hi
Tried ACR trial on my note4 and works great but does not seem to work on S7. Do you happen to know a call recording software that works well on the S7 Edge?
Thx
Phil

fastmike said:
Hi
Tried ACR trial on my note4 and works great but does not seem to work on S7. Do you happen to know a call recording software that works well on the S7 Edge?
Thx
Phil
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Try call recording by skyvalex! Google it or search it in playstore
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Second Skyvalex! Been using it for a long time now, great app! However on my currently un-rooted S7E the recording is full of echoes but I have only tried the standard API method so far.

Thx for the prompt reply guys, appreciated!
Phil

If you're rooted you can activate the native call recorder by adding this line in /system/csc/others.xml (before </FeatureSet> at the end of the file)
<CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigRecording>RecordingAllowed</CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigRecording>

It is true you can activate native recording however you have no control over it really. Skyvalex has a myriad of options etc.... the best I have come across as well as cloud support etc...

chippyuk said:
It is true you can activate native recording however you have no control over it really. Skyvalex has a myriad of options etc.... the best I have come across as well as cloud support etc...
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As I stated above, skyvalex has made the best app for call recording in my humble opinion
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FYI, ACR works fine on my S7e including bluetooth recordings and cloud services.

jens buhl said:
FYI, ACR works fine on my S7e including bluetooth recordings and cloud services.
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Thx! May I ask which version you have? Mine always says something like 'cannot record this call. Restart your phone and if same message appears your phone might not be compliant'...

fastmike said:
Thx! May I ask which version you have? Mine always says something like 'cannot record this call. Restart your phone and if same message appears your phone might not be compliant'...
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The latest ACR v. 16.7, which was updated something like a week ago as well as ACR Licence v. 1.5.

chippyuk said:
Second Skyvalex! Been using it for a long time now, great app! However on my currently un-rooted S7E the recording is full of echoes but I have only tried the standard API method so far.
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Forget the echo bit, like a **** I managed to set the sound effects to Concert Hall.... All good now!

Many thanks!
Phil

what about recording quality?
is it native API for incomming/outgoing voice with no noises or some low quality microphone?

atay_ said:
what about recording quality?
is it native API for incomming/outgoing voice with no noises or some low quality microphone?
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Record yourside using your microphone, the other party shall do the same also! Microphone recording can be very accurate if you use a rooted phone. As far as I know, it's not all about API dependent.
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zizon65 said:
Record yourside using your microphone, the other party shall do the same also! Microphone recording can be very accurate if you use a rooted phone. As far as I know, it's not all about API dependent.
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yep, what I meant is that on some phones, where call recording is disabled in software/hardware, you are still able to record a call using some programs, but you almost not hear the person you speak with, because only thing phone records is source from phone microphone.
So when you play recording you hear only yourself and sometimes if it was quite in the room - the other side very silent, impossible to understand what is talking about.
So my question is - is call recording useful and easy to hear/understand everything what was recorded?

atay_ said:
what about recording quality?
is it native API for incomming/outgoing voice with no noises or some low quality microphone?
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Do you have the S7? If so just download one (Skyvalex) from the app store and check it out yourself.....
But in Answer to your question the recording via the native API (NOT rooted) is perfect!

i don't know..
if you know tell me
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maybe good?

atay_ said:
yep, what I meant is that on some phones, where call recording is disabled in software/hardware, you are still able to record a call using some programs, but you almost not hear the person you speak with, because only thing phone records is source from phone microphone.
So when you play recording you hear only yourself and sometimes if it was quite in the room - the other side very silent, impossible to understand what is talking about.
So my question is - is call recording useful and easy to hear/understand everything what was recorded?
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Skywalex has done a good with his software, try it! But remember, rooted phones always offers more possibilities about phone calls recording.
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zizon65 said:
Skywalex has done a good with his software, try it! But remember, rooted phones always offers more possibilities about phone calls recording.
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I don't have S7, I want to buy it this week, but decent call recording is my "must be".
This is why I'm asking people, who owns already this phone if they are satisfied with call recording quality.
You said rooted phones offers more, but if I"m right - there is already root available for S7 (and Edge).

atay_ said:
I don't have S7, I want to buy it this week, but decent call recording is my "must be".
This is why I'm asking people, who owns already this phone if they are satisfied with call recording quality.
You said rooted phones offers more, but if I"m right - there is already root available for S7 (and Edge).
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Root is already available just for Exinos versions, not for all IMHO
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Z2 and HiFi - sound quality

Hi,
I am considering purchasing this phone and use it as a HiFi player. The reason is that it uses the Snapdragon DAC (same as the one inside HTC 10) furthermore, looks like the aptX/HD libraries, coming from Oneplus, work on it as well.
For those having this phone already, I have 2 questions:
- have you tested the sound quality on it with decent headsets?
- is the HiFi enabled at all times or only in it's music player? Some competitor phones display HiFi in the status bar to show the DAC is enabled
Thanks!

I have ordered the phone. Will confirm ASAP.
I thought it would have good DAC like Vibe X3.

n00b_dr0id said:
I have ordered the phone. Will confirm ASAP.
I thought it would have good DAC like Vibe X3.
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Tanks much - waiting your feedback

mekanix said:
Tanks much - waiting your feedback
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Received the phone today and tested the audio via Vivo XE800 and Monk plus. It's not good. The output volume is very low too. Monks which are 64ohms needed volume at almost 90%. Monks didn't sound as good,low end struggled. Vivo which is bright had even worse sound on these. Even speaker volume is very low. Tested via both poweramp and Neutron player.
Better buy a used Vivo X3 which has 9018k2m if you want just for DAP.

n00b_dr0id said:
Received the phone today and tested the audio via Vivo XE800 and Monk plus. It's not good. The output volume is very low too. Monks which are 64ohms needed volume at almost 90%. Monks didn't sound as good,low end struggled. Vivo which is bright had even worse sound on these. Even speaker volume is very low. Tested via both poweramp and Neutron player.
Better buy a used Vivo X3 which has 9018k2m if you want just for DAP.
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Thanks n00b_dr0id, highly appreciated!!! Will continue using my BQ M5 (wolfson onboard) and will keep it a bit more; thought I can jump to a better, more up to date platform but looks like I have to wait

n00b_dr0id said:
Received the phone today and tested the audio via Vivo XE800 and Monk plus. It's not good. The output volume is very low too. Monks which are 64ohms needed volume at almost 90%. Monks didn't sound as good,low end struggled. Vivo which is bright had even worse sound on these. Even speaker volume is very low. Tested via both poweramp and Neutron player.
Better buy a used Vivo X3 which has 9018k2m if you want just for DAP.
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Do you plan to return or keep it? For the later, I guess you will test some custom roms - maybe the sound improves with a different rom...

Of course, you should try on custom firmware based on MM.
At the 4pda conference there are feedback about the sound output Hi-res 24/192 using Poweramp (beta). And also additional mods Ainur pandora and Davine beats.
To amplify the sound, V4A and Magisk modules were used.

I do intend to keep it and use custom ROMs since the Stock UI is pretty bad and hogs almost 45% RAM without any app running. But as I am reading a lot of complains online about this device's unreliability so I am not going to unlock the bootloader anytime soon to void warranty. Right now I am trying to find a 'certified' USB C to micro USB cable to connect an external DAC. If you guys have any idea about this pls do report.
P.S> Since this device doesn't have OTG I am not sure if external DAC will work. Will find out.

Just received Z2. Well... It sounds pretty awful, expected more from this device. No software will help if hardware implementation of codec is bad.

Firmware_Addicted said:
Just received Z2. Well... It sounds pretty awful, expected more from this device. No software will help if hardware implementation of codec is bad.
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So you mean to say the speaker sound will remain like this even if we install a custom rom.. I remember for galaxy note 2 there was an add on to increase the volume to max

myeviltwin said:
So you mean to say the speaker sound will remain like this even if we install a custom rom.. I remember for galaxy note 2 there was an add on to increase the volume to max
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I have no claims to speaker, it's pretty loud for me, both on stock and custom. Zuk has the most loud speaker from devices that i owned. Just not satisfied by headphone sound. I listened it more, it's not so bad, but not HiFi level, as all phones without dedicated DAC. Anyway, Xiaomi Mi5 with same built in Snapdragon DAC sounds little better.

From my experience the headphone sound is... Ok but not amazing. It uses the in built SD820 DAC and I've had an overall mixed experience. When hooked up to my Sennheiser HD 215's the sound given by the Z2 is passable but nothing special. After installing the Arkamys 2 sound mod (which is more of a tweaked codec than anything else) sound quality did improve a decent amount but it still isn't going to beat out a proper HiFi music player or hell even a sony droid phone.
In my opinion at least sound quality is... passable but it isn't going to win any awards any time soon. Stuff like the Arkamys sound mod do help improve it but again because the DAC is the one built into the SD820 it's kinda expected. I mean, for a phone at this price point a few corners would have to be cut somewhere. Either way if you're really serious about your music then just stick with your current setup.
Despite that though the Z2 is still a really nice phone and is well worth picking up if you want a nice powerful phone while you're on a budget

In marshmellow it used to support hi res audio through poweramp but after naugat update hi res sound is not working in poweramp alpha. Why is this happened. Am on lenovo z2 plus indian variant 2.5.104 ST.

myeviltwin said:
So you mean to say the speaker sound will remain like this even if we install a custom rom.. I remember for galaxy note 2 there was an add on to increase the volume to max
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Sound from Lyf Flame 1 which has same SD DAC has better audio compared to ZUK so it would should improve with custom ROM and with further enhancements like V4A it should help it reach it's max potential.
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arpan.123654789 said:
In marshmellow it used to support hi res audio through poweramp but after naugat update hi res sound is not working in poweramp alpha. Why is this happened. Am on lenovo z2 plus indian variant 2.5.104 ST.
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Checked and confirmed it works, but I am on Paid version.

I wanna suggest for everyone who want better sound - install Hiby Music player. My favourite music player for years. It outputs the most clean audio compared to any other android/ios player.

n00b_dr0id said:
Sound from Lyf Flame 1 which has same SD DAC has better audio compared to ZUK so it would should improve with custom ROM and with further enhancements like V4A it should help it reach it's max potential.
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Checked and confirmed it works, but I am on Paid version.
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Am also on Paid version. It was working fine till ZUI 2.0.133 ST i.e. marshmellow. But after updating to ZUI 2.5.104ST i.e. naugat, high res audio output option is gone. So again downgraded to marshmellow.

arpan.123654789 said:
Am also on Paid version. It was working fine till ZUI 2.0.133 ST i.e. marshmellow. But after updating to ZUI 2.5.104ST i.e. naugat, high res audio output option is gone. So again downgraded to marshmellow.
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Please advice how did you managed to downgrade to marshmallow. AM bit confused if bootloader will get locked or not. If you have followed any guide please PM me the link..
regarding the sound I have tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/themes/b-audio-mod02-06zuk-z2dac-haxdual-t3630841 and I see there is a difference with output. give it a try

shantanu223 said:
how did you managed to downgrade to marshmallow
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Flash 2.0.133 via QFIL.

arpan.123654789 said:
Am also on Paid version. It was working fine till ZUI 2.0.133 ST i.e. marshmellow. But after updating to ZUI 2.5.104ST i.e. naugat, high res audio output option is gone. So again downgraded to marshmellow.
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how to tell if hires audio is working in poweramp?

asrone96 said:
how to tell if hires audio is working in poweramp?
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You will automatically know when you switch on hi res output you can hear more detailed and clear sounds. Use a good quality headphone also.
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Please advice how did you managed to downgrade to marshmallow. AM bit confused if bootloader will get locked or not. If you have followed any guide please PM me the link..
regarding the sound I have tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/themes/b-audio-mod02-06zuk-z2dac-haxdual-t3630841 and I see there is a difference with output. give it a try
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Detailed flashing procedure is in zukfans.eu website.

what music players work good on the LG G6?

What high end music players do you guys use for the LG G6 that doesn't have the audio cutting out for a split second on every song or skipping that is comparable to Poweramp? I was considering Player Pro but it has the same problem. i tried JetAudio Music Player but the highs sound muffled without one of the audio enhancers you have to pay extra for. I don't like the idea of buying an app and then having to pay extra for other features when other apps have it included for free. Also what settings or tweaks do you guys use to correct the cutting out or skipping? I have the settings maxed out on the PlayerPro and Poweramp and still have the problem.

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What high end music players do you guys use for the LG G6 that doesn't have the audio cutting out for a split second on every song or skipping that is comparable to Poweramp? I was considering Player Pro but it has the same problem. i tried JetAudio Music Player but the highs sound muffled without one of the audio enhancers you have to pay extra for. I don't like the idea of buying an app and then having to pay extra for other features when other apps have it included for free. Also what settings or tweaks do you guys use to correct the cutting out or skipping? I have the settings maxed out on the PlayerPro and Poweramp and still have the problem.
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I used Onkyo HF Player for music on almost all my android devices. Try it.
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I use AIMP, could try that out

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I used Onkyo HF Player for music on almost all my android devices. Try it.
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Will that app work with the headphone jack and bluetooth? I didn't see any info about that in the description.

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Will that app work with the headphone jack and bluetooth? I didn't see any info about that in the description.
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Yeah it does. If you don't have their headphones in the preset list go down to the bottom for "other headphones". Should work with bluetooth. I didn't keep the app very long after finding out it wasn't showing my album covers and no way to add them like with Poweramp and PlayerPro. The interface is so 2011. Rather ugly by today's standards. the EQ was good sounding though.

Im using poweramp

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Im using poweramp
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Any problems with it? Are you using the version 3 alpha? That's what I'm using now. I think I got it working better with the newest version 704. I adjusted the buffering and priority. The settings are different inn this one.
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Any problems with it? Are you using the version 3 alpha? That's what I'm using now. I think I got it working better with the newest version 704. I adjusted the buffering and priority. The settings are different inn this one.
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Im on version 2.0.10 or what ever it is? Build 588 i think?
Its been more stable than 3.

jamiee6610 said:
Im on version 2.0.10 or what ever it is? Build 588 i think?
Its been more stable than 3.
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so it doesn't have audio problems? Did you adjust the buffering or priority? I'm trying to understand how it works good for you. I am on my 2nd G6 over this issue and still have it on Player Pro. So far the Poweramp alpha 3 is working good after i tweaked it.

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so it doesn't have audio problems? Did you adjust the buffering or priority? I'm trying to understand how it works good for you. I am on my 2nd G6 over this issue and still have it on Player Pro. So far the Poweramp alpha 3 is working good after i tweaked it.
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None that im aware of yet? Version 3 was a bit glitchy found some songs would stutter and i sometimes had a weird distortion.
I went back to the official 2.x version and it's fine, earphones are fine and i cant say more than that really? Not sure why your looking at replacing the phone over the app? Its software and new to the device. Unless in samsung nothing is ever optimised straight from the box.

going through V20 forums about the quad dac, I'm pretty sure only some players (maybe only LG Music) recognises the ES9218+ DAC in the G6, the rest apparently can only recognise what Android audio manager api or whatever lets them recognise which is only the Qualcomm DAC so it essentially limits it to 48khz and plays that.
At least this used to happen, I hope LG has fixed this and allowed the ES9218+ to be seen by 3rd party players and used properly, does anyone have more insight into this? Please let me be wrong about this lack of support -_-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/list-music-players-dac-t3536815
Some more research
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71302132&postcount=100

this question lol.own pref .....
I use usb audio player pro with lg g5 BnO 32 bit dac/amp
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dkimmortal said:
going through V20 forums about the quad dac, I'm pretty sure only some players (maybe only LG Music) recognises the ES9218+ DAC in the G6, the rest apparently can only recognise what Android audio manager api or whatever lets them recognise which is only the Qualcomm DAC so it essentially limits it to 48khz and plays that.
At least this used to happen, I hope LG has fixed this and allowed the ES9218+ to be seen by 3rd party players and used properly, does anyone have more insight into this? Please let me be wrong about this lack of support -_-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/list-music-players-dac-t3536815
Some more research
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71302132&postcount=100
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Mate try USB audio player pro.this app bridge you own dac no need trough android...