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Here we will put all news and questions about the SGS2 I-9103.
Here are the Specs:
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I9103
http://www.91mobiles.com/mobile/Samsung/Galaxy+S+II+I9103/9986.html
I9100 (to compare)
http://www.91mobiles.com/mobile/Samsung/Galaxy+S+II+I9100/8374.html
I mark'd the differences in yellow that I saw so far.
The main differents are the SLCD (Super Liquid Chrystal Display) and the Nvidia Tegra 2 Processor and it seems that the 1080p HD Video Recording is at 30fps in stock.
I think the new SLCD Screen will boost the battery life alot !
Any new Information about this model of SGS2 can be posted here !
I will edit it soon with more Information.
Can't wait to get it!

I cant see any difference between 9100 & 9103
Are there any?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

Old info, look at the post date. Samsung has stated they don't have any plans to release this device any time soon. Micht change in the future but now it's definatly cancelled.

Screen is Super LCD rather than Super AMOLED Plus and the Processor is a Tegra 2 Processor (Nvidia) rather than Samsung's own Exynos
Exynos + Chainfire 3D ftw!!

samsung meant to release this phone because they can't answer the orders for 9100.. the samsung i-9103 has some benefits and handicaps against the i-9100. 9103 has a nvidia tegra2 graphic processor which might be stronger in some cases but lacks the benefits of the th super amoled plus screen since it has a clear type LCD screen..

just like the i9003 (AKA Galaxy S i9000 2011 editon)

- added a screenshot with yellow marks
hope that they will release it soon and not in 2012.
Then I would wait for an SGS3 !

Any news about Samsung GT-I9103
Any release date ?
BC I dont know what to do. Wait for Glaxy S II i9103, OR take LG Optimus 2X...

There's also the new GT-I9001 coming in september. It's called Galaxy S Plus, and actually beats the SGS2 in cpu-specs. Samsung.de is already advertising for it on their homepage.
Dual-core 1,4 Ghz cpu beats the SGS2, but othervise its smaller in specs - 5Mp camera, 8 Gb internal memory and so on.
So by overclocking the SGS2 a bit, it's still the strongest in the block...

It says "Ultraschneller 1,4 GHz Prozessor" which means something like fast 1,4GHz CPU, but no mention of Dualcore somewhere... so its a Singlecore, every marketing department would mention Dualcore if it would be a dualcore...

SLCD screen will increase battery use not decrease it compared to samLED+

Testraindrop said:
It says "Ultraschneller 1,4 GHz Prozessor" which means something like fast 1,4GHz CPU, but no mention of Dualcore somewhere... so its a Singlecore, every marketing department would mention Dualcore if it would be a dualcore...
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Yes, I agree, pretty sure it is single core, probably also based on Cortex A8, so it is slower than SGS2 also in single threaded tasks regardless of the higher clock frequency.

Eddiedk said:
There's also the new GT-I9001 coming in september. It's called Galaxy S Plus, and actually beats the SGS2 in cpu-specs. Samsung.de is already advertising for it on their homepage.
Dual-core 1,4 Ghz cpu beats the SGS2, but othervise its smaller in specs - 5Mp camera, 8 Gb internal memory and so on.
So by overclocking the SGS2 a bit, it's still the strongest in the block...
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No. The Galaxy S Plus has a single core CPU.

So many rumours about Galaxy devices... Tegra 2 dual-core galaxy SII is more of a Cinderella for now, doesn't exist and probably won't exist at all.

American Galaxy s II variants.

American variants of SGS II seem to be better than ours, 4.5 inch screen. Slightly better may be. But i hope they don't get a wolfson chip and Vodoo sound eventually. It makes feel jealous.

No need to be jealous. Look at how long it took the first Galaxy S variants to get Froyo. And don't even get me started on Gingerbread. The carriers' policy regarding updates is a nightmare over there.
The international version is the way to go, unless you don't care about updates.
Also, 4.5 is freaking huge. I hope that won't be the new trend. I already find the SGSII to be slightly to big. 4 inches was perfect for me.

varunkumars said:
American variants of SGS II seem to be better than ours, 4.5 inch screen. Slightly better may be. But i hope they don't get a wolfson chip and Vodoo sound eventually. It makes feel jealous.
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The only one confirmed to be 4.5" is the T-Mobile version (Hercules). It also comes with the same Qualcomm processor that's in the Sensation which hasn't benchmarked nearly as well as the Exynos chip in the international SGS2. The final verdict on performance will depend on how well Samsung optimizes its software on the Qualcomm chip.

BarryH_GEG said:
The only one confirmed to be 4.5" is the T-Mobile version (Hercules). It also comes with the same Qualcomm processor that's in the Sensation which hasn't benchmarked nearly as well as the Exynos chip in the international SGS2. The final verdict on performance will depend on how well Samsung optimizes its software on the Qualcomm chip.
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Maybe if both are clocked at 1.2, but the Verizon (rumored Celox) version of the Qualcomm 8060 is supposedly going to be clocked at 1.5Ghz. I would think that would help the Qualcomm's performance.

Davith said:
Also, 4.5 is freaking huge. I hope that won't be the new trend. I already find the SGSII to be slightly to big. 4 inches was perfect for me.
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Same here, even though the sgs2 is only 2mm wider and 3mm taller than my captivate it feels much bigger. The tmo celox is 4mm wider and 6mm taller than the sgs2, no thanks. They really need to go with edge to edge screens with anything over 4".
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Really? I read/heard somewhere that american variants were going to have inferior processors too, then again i haven't done much research about this so i could be greatly misinformed.

I remember back when I had AT&T Captivate - how SGS got Froyo and GB waaaaaaaay sooner than my AT&T Captivate. Pissed the hell out of me.
Plus, AT&T butchered the phone - no LED, no front camera.
No, I'm happy with my factory-direct SGS2 Exynos monster.

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Maybe if both are clocked at 1.2, but the Verizon (rumored Celox) version of the Qualcomm 8060 is supposedly going to be clocked at 1.5Ghz. I would think that would help the Qualcomm's performance.
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I don't think anything's been confirmed for VZW yet. They may get a true Exynos SGS2 variant. Here's the pic of Sprint's. It looks like the size of the regular SGS2 not the 4.5" Qualcomm version.

If you had the choice between buying one from Expansy-US or waiting for AT&T to get it what would you do? I'm afraid of stuck or broken pixels, the yellow stain, and other parts broken or what have you.
I have heard that Expansys-US has a warranty am I correct? Will the unlocked version be as fast on the AT&T network here in the U.S. as the one that comes out on AT&T?
Thanks for all of your help.
AJ

[REF][R&D] Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974) Info/Architecture

Snapdragon 800 (MSM 8974)
[A.k.a. "Snapdragon S4 Prime"]
Qualcomm has already started to roll out samples for their new Snapdragon
flagship SoC's. Starting in mid 2013, we'll start seeing new devices running
their new dragons. Thus it is important that XDA developer can keep up-to-date
on this development so that we can be quick to "help" both Qualcomm and the
carriers using devices, to develop for these products. Just in case they think
they need to re-invent the wheel by locking up their bootloaders and so on...
Please feel free to add or correct info posted in this thread.
Everyone is Welcome! (Especially Qualcomm)
Again AnandTech provide us with some useful and correct information.The New Snapdragons
The new Kraits will find their way in new Snapdragon platforms, now numbered
200, 400, 600 and 800 (the old S1 - S4 labels are gone). As always, higher
numbers mean better performance but you'll still need to rely on the internal
part numbers to know what's really inside.
Today Qualcomm announced the Snapdragon 800, which implements four Krait 400
cores running at up to 2.3GHz, an Adreno 330 GPU and Qualcomm's 3rd generation
LTE baseband (9x25) all on a single die. Snapdragon 800 is the part formerly
(or still internally) known as MSM8974 which we've seen rumblings about
numerous times.
Qualcomm tells us that the Adreno 330 will offer roughly 50% more graphics
performance over Adreno 320, and an almost 2x increase in compute performance.
The integrated 9x25 3rd generation LTE baseband enables support for UE
Category 4 LTE with up to 150Mbps downstream, this is the same IP block as in
MDM9x25, and likewise MSM8974/Snapdragon 800 will be available in all the
usual variants (CDMA2000/WCDMA/LTE, WCDMA/LTE, and finally no modem).
Snapdragon 800 also integrates 802.11ac baseband, a new feature of modern
Qualcomm SoCs, just like 8960 and the previous S4 family.
Snapdragon 800 also includes a 2x32 LPDDR3 memory interface.
On the video/decode side, the SoC supports encode/decode of 4K HD content at
30 fps.
Also being announced today is the Snapdragon 600. This part integrates four
Krait 300 cores running at up to 1.9GHz. Adreno 320 handles GPU duties,
although with an increased clock speed. Compared to the current Snapdragon S4,
the 600 is expected to improve performance by up to 40% if you combine IPC and
frequency increases.
The new Snapdragon 600 is also known by the part number APQ8064T, and was
formerly known as the Snapdragon S4 Pro.
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​So here you can see that we will have a platform based on the following components:
Code:
PMIC: 8841/8941 (or 8851??)
RF: [URL="http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25"]WTR1605L[/URL]
Audio: WCD9320
Data: WCN3660
This is already incorporated into their CodeAurora kernel GIT.
Some Chip Photos
The Radio chip WTR1605L:
The WTR1605L capabilities:
References:
Snapdragon SoC's (WikiPedia)

<< Reserved For 800 Snapdragons >>

<< Let here be more dragons >>

Just a nice picture of the various LTE bands in use around the world:
Thanks to THIS AnandTech Analyst presentation.

Oh man all those frequencies...

Snapdragon RF channels.
KosanRio said:
Oh man all those frequencies...
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This is an area I can sink my teeth into, and build amplifiers for!
Nothing beats a good RF preamp when you are in shadow zones and lousy Fresnel areas like a solid GaAs FET amplifier.
Of course, it would help if the handset designers would provide an 'acceptable' interface port for roof-mounted antennas!
A good, modest gain antenna would be fine, A 3 dB gain, broadband to cover CDMA, S, and UMTS, as well as GSM.
This causes problems in antenna design, as no single antenna is really suited to operate across a wide swath of spectrum, let alone work in non-harmonic-related bands. Even odd ordered bands are difficult to design antennas for if you do not have the proper analyzers and tools to actually model the RF pattern of the signal.
Even order and odd order products need to be addressed..I dare say a capacitive coupled antenna would need to be employed, so the windshield will be the likely candidate to keep the feedline losses minimal,
Actie devices would require a ceramic filter as a duplexer, as you need the transmitter running at the same time the receiver is active, and they must never be allowed to support self-induced EMF or cross talk.
A minimum for me for suppression would need to come in at -75 dBm. And this is where a good, low noise GaAs FET amplifier would fit in, to drop the internal and atmospheric noise, and ramp up the low level RF signal ahead of the digital front end.
Oh the fun of working with small signal devices!

SNAPDRAGON 800 it is fantastic !!!!
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RF transceiver can be either WTR1605 (no LTE support) or WTR1605L, according to http://www.wdic.org/w/WDIC/MSM8974

This is a list of Qfuses that I was able to dump from my device. It appears to be the hwioregmap source or something similar. This should give us a better idea of what fuses are inside. Notice the lack of a warranty/tamper fuse... I also did hear that the warranty 'fuse' is on the MCU too. Anyways, check these out:
Qfuses for Note 3 VZW (MSM8974AB)

mirceat said:
RF transceiver can be either WTR1605 (no LTE support) or WTR1605L...
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I guess, the next step is to convert our Snapdragons to programmable SDR's!
Who want's to dig into the the RF firmware?
We need some more documentation on these.

is my sm-n900 fake according to the benchmark ?

hi , i have a Vietnamese made galaxy note 3 ( or that what it is written on the back side of the cellphone ) , it was really good , and i didn't suspect that it could be fake .... today i decided to run quadrant benchmark , it scored 18060 ... which was a little bit lower than the normal score for the note 3 ( it could reach 22000 )
when i checked the processor in the system specifications , it showed this :
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is it the real cpu information for the sm-n900 ? shouldn't it have 8 cores ( octa ) instead of 4 ? and how about the maximum frequency ( 1900 mhz ) ?
thanks in advance

i ran the Phone INFO ★Samsung★ application and it said that it is original , but i am still not sure about the processor cores ,doesn't exynos mobile have 8 cores ?

ghassan haddad said:
hi , i have a Vietnamese made galaxy note 3 ( or that what it is written on the back side of the cellphone ) , it was really good , and i didn't suspect that it could be fake .... today i decided to run quadrant benchmark , it scored 18060 ... which was a little bit lower than the normal score for the note 3 ( it could reach 22000 )
when i checked the processor in the system specifications , it showed this :
is it the real cpu information for the sm-n900 ? shouldn't it have 8 cores ( octa ) instead of 4 ? and how about the maximum frequency ( 1900 mhz ) ?
thanks in advance
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It is a real one. SM-900 has 2 sets of 4 core processors. One set is low power A-7 and other is high power A-15 set. At a time only one set is active. In case of benchmarks, only the high power cluster works. Try downloading an app called CPU-z in the play store.

thanks for your reply , but may i ask you what advantage would i get from the octa core if only one quad is able to run at a time ? what difference would it make when compared to other quad core cellphones ?

ghassan haddad said:
thanks for your reply , but may i ask you what advantage would i get from the octa core if only one quad is able to run at a time ? what difference would it make when compared to other quad core cellphones ?
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The answer would be battery life. While running small apps like messaging, whatsapp, twitter, watching movies etc, the small cores would do the job efficiently. Even small games like candy-crush, clash of clans etc run on these small cores. On the other hand, playing graphic intensive games, decoding/encoding videos or using photoshop on your phone would be taken care of by the larger cores.

that seems logical , thanks again for your explanation

ghassan haddad said:
that seems logical , thanks again for your explanation
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Anytime mate..

In general, the phone has maximum of 4 cores online out of 8. It could be 4 Cortex-A7 (lower power consumption) or 4 Cortex-A15 (better performance) online at one moment. Or if the phone supports big.LITTLE architechture (which I am unable to confirm at the moment), then the phone can also mix these, so you can have 3 A7 cores and 1 A15 core online or 2 and 2 etc.
As for the frequency, A15 runs at up to 1900 MHz, which is also shown on the screenshot, and A7 runs at up to 1300 MHz.

i read that there were some attempts to make the 8 cores work at the same time using some patch , but that was cancelled by samsung itself due to the overheat and the high battery consumption ....

Are you getting UFS 2.0 or 2.1 version of S8? Mine seems to be 2.0 :(

Hi All
So far I am happy with my shiny new S8 with no red tint yet
however, recent benchmark test is driving me a bit crazy, I think I am getting the slower UFS2.0 version of S8 instead 2.1, since in my recent benchmark test, it shows my speed is a lot slower compare to others' benchmark shown online.
see below is mine, only 500MB+
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this is what I found of others' s8
I clearly remembered S8 is UFS2.1 as their spec and many reviewers have said the same.
I checked Samsung website spec page, it does not say anything now, however, I did an internet archive page check, it's clear that Samsung official site indicated UFS2.1 before 25 Apr, and remove it after that, are they mixing memory type as some others indicated?, more importantly, is it normal or should I ask for exchange ?

This is my results. I guess it's 2.1?
Have you checked any other app that may show version number or something?
Exynos Australian Model
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G950FD

540read/135write g950w snapdragon :\
The read/write iops are around 50% faster with ufs2.1, i wonder if exynos got the faster interface, need some more samples folks.

US (Verizon) S8 and had around 550 read.

534 read 138 write on AT&T 950U ordered directly from Samsung website.

follow these steps to identify your chip
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/ufs-2-0-2-1-identify-flash-chip-s8-t3601656

exynos s8

So is it literally a toss up on which one you'll get? But sucks for me...

Exynos variant, Sweden, UFS2.1

i also get 550 read approximately with a snapdragon variant (verizon). Just from the samples here it looks like Exynos gets 2.1 and snapdragon gets 2.0. :_(

So exynos gets easy root uhs 2.1, and snapdragon gets uhs 2.0, but compatible dolphin emulator within like 5-10minute download

All S8 Exynos get UFS2.1 it seems.
All s8+ Snapdragon get UFS2.1
Some S8 Snapdragon get UFS2.0
I think this is the take home message.

chankalson said:
exynos s8
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Hey how is exynos battery life?
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cricketgirl90 said:
Hey how is exynos battery life?
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average, about the same as s7 edge.

chankalson said:
average, about the same as s7 edge.
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Means 5 hrs of SOT? Hmmm might as well wait for note 8
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Exynos variant, UFS2.1

Mine is over than 700MB, so i guess its UFS 2.1
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Means 5 hrs of SOT? Hmmm might as well wait for note 8
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I get 5hrs on 36% of batt, so i can say 6hrs++ can be achieved easily

chankalson said:
average, about the same as s7 edge.
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You got something sipping battery min is 6hrs

UFS 2.1 On the Exynos version here.