Some people said that you can update your lovely device to the Chinese firmware version. That is true! It works. However, motorola updated the bootloader version for the Chinese firmware. If can never downgraded to the original 5.0 for XT1095 or others because the bootloader does not support that. Here are three ways for you if you do not want to use the Chinese firmware: The first one is what I did which is to contact Motorola and replace a phone for FREE. The second one is to flash the XT1092's 5.0.2. It works too although I did not try that. The third way is to wait the official 5.0.2 firmware for XT1095.
Just a warn to those who want to update your lovely device
zhangyang_haha said:
Some people said that you can update your lovely device to the Chinese firmware version. That is true! It works. However, motorola updated the bootloader version for the Chinese firmware. If can never downgraded to the original 5.0 for XT1095 or others because the bootloader does not support that. Here are three ways for you if you do not want to use the Chinese firmware: The first one is what I did which is to contact Motorola and replace a phone for FREE. The second one is to flash the XT1092's 5.0.2. It works too although I did not try that. The third way is to wait the official 5.0.2 firmware for XT1095.
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I think is precipitated to say "never"
The boot loader on the Chinese version is new I agree. But eventually Motorola will upgrade all the boot loaders to that version, even the Pure editon. When Motorola will decide to upgrade all to the new motoboot even the pure pure edition won't be able to return to <5.0.2.
So, you can try it yes, just avoid to flash Motoboot.img
Flashing any 4.4.4 to any 5.x already updates the bootloader and it cannot be downgraded. You can downgrade all of the other files though and the phone will work just fine.
Have you tried manually flashing(mfastboot) all of the other files to downgrade? If they are preventing the downgrade of the entire OS this is something new, and to be honest I don't believe that they are.
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Some people said that you can update your lovely device to the Chinese firmware version. That is true! It works. However, motorola updated the bootloader version for the Chinese firmware. If can never downgraded to the original 5.0 for XT1095 or others because the bootloader does not support that. Here are three ways for you if you do not want to use the Chinese firmware: The first one is what I did which is to contact Motorola and replace a phone for FREE. The second one is to flash the XT1092's 5.0.2. It works too although I did not try that. The third way is to wait the official 5.0.2 firmware for XT1095.
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Before using RSDLite you must replace the files of KitKat (gpt.bin and motoboot.img) with those firmware Lollipop otherwise you can not do the downgrade. I pass easily from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 and 5.0 and my Moto X XT1092 works perfectly.
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Flashing any 4.4.4 to any 5.x already updates the bootloader and it cannot be downgraded. You can downgrade all of the other files though and the phone will work just fine.
Have you tried manually flashing(mfastboot) all of the other files to downgrade? If they are preventing the downgrade of the entire OS this is something new, and to be honest I don't believe that they are.
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Before using RSDLite you must replace the files of KitKat (gpt.bin and motoboot.img) with those firmware Lollipop otherwise you can not do the downgrade. I pass easily from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 and 5.0 and my Moto X XT1092 works perfectly.
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actually you can downgrade via TWRP, just flash the restore files of system and boot
Via Fastboot you cannot downgrade because when you are trying to flash the system.img the phone says image is too large, although the fastboot windows says OK but the phone will stuck at logo.
Via RSD I have not tryed, but maybe later today will do.
Resuming, if you flash via fastboot the motoboot.img you wont be able to flash system images older than the version the bootloader is meant to, but if you use any other method you can easily downgrade and upgrade.
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Flashing any 4.4.4 to any 5.x already updates the bootloader and it cannot be downgraded. You can downgrade all of the other files though and the phone will work just fine.
Have you tried manually flashing(mfastboot) all of the other files to downgrade? If they are preventing the downgrade of the entire OS this is something new, and to be honest I don't believe that they are.
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Of course. I've tried manually flash except motoboot or gpt.
This will just make your phone sucks at the boot logo
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I think is precipitated to say "never"
The boot loader on the Chinese version is new I agree. But eventually Motorola will upgrade all the boot loaders to that version, even the Pure editon. When Motorola will decide to upgrade all to the new motoboot even the pure pure edition won't be able to return to <5.0.2.
So, you can try it yes, just avoid to flash Motoboot.img
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I mean we can never downgrade the bootloader.
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actually you can downgrade via TWRP, just flash the restore files of system and boot
Via Fastboot you cannot downgrade because when you are trying to flash the system.img the phone says image is too large, although the fastboot windows says OK but the phone will stuck at logo.
Via RSD I have not tryed, but maybe later today will do.
Resuming, if you flash via fastboot the motoboot.img you wont be able to flash system images older than the version the bootloader is meant to, but if you use any other method you can easily downgrade and upgrade.
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So, you mean we can make a flashable zip and flash it in the TWRP right? that is possible. I forget this way. Fell so sorry about that
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S...... The second one is to flash the XT1092's 5.0.2. It works too although I did not try that. ....
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Where do you see a 5.0.2 firmware available for XT1092? I have not seen one. The only 5.0.2 available is for XT1085. Am I missing something here?
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Where do you see a 5.0.2 firmware available for XT1092? I have not seen one. The only 5.0.2 available is for XT1085. Am I missing something here?
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Android development section
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Android development section
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I think that is a TWRP backup image right?
Flashable zips for system and radio would be the simplest thing for everyone. I would love to create them but don't even know where to start. Is there a reason no one has done it yet? That is the first thing to happen for nexus devices.
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Some people said that you can update your lovely device to the Chinese firmware version. That is true! It works. However, motorola updated the bootloader version for the Chinese firmware. If can never downgraded to the original 5.0 for XT1095 or others because the bootloader does not support that. Here are three ways for you if you do not want to use the Chinese firmware: The first one is what I did which is to contact Motorola and replace a phone for FREE. The second one is to flash the XT1092's 5.0.2. It works too although I did not try that. The third way is to wait the official 5.0.2 firmware for XT1095.
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how did you get them to replace it for free? within 14 days of purchase?
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how did you get them to replace it for free? within 14 days of purchase?
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Yes, its in 14 days. Because I was developing Mokee for XT1095, i unlocked my phone. I'm always dare to try every new thing
So, I have a 32gb Amazon-variant XT1625 on MPJ24.139-48 with an unlocked bootloader and root. I want to update to Nougat, but it's looking like setting up to take the Amazon update is going to be a fair amount of effort; I'm wondering if it's possible to just flash the retail version of Nougat since it's looking like I'm going to have to go to a fair sum of effort anyway.
I've also heard that Moto G4 Plus ROMs will work on the G4, but I don't know the specifics on that.
i dont see why not as long as you already unlocked the bootloader prior to Moto(Lenovo) disallowed unlocking of amazon varients of the g4. heres a link to the stock nougat firmware
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298955218
I flashed -64 retus software on mine and it immediately had two nougat updates afterwards. Still waiting for one that fixes the aboot sector vulnerability too but never know when that may come
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I flashed -64 retus software on mine and it immediately had two nougat updates afterwards. Still waiting for one that fixes the aboot sector vulnerability too but never know when that may come
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then you was able to flash retail version in a amazon prime phone? I have one and it dont boot if i instal a retail version.
di anybody actually get this working? I had the same issue as @iurd2007 I was able to unlock the bootloader just fine. The flash appeared to have taken successfully. But it just gets caught in a boot loop when trying to reboot the system after the flash. I followed the instructions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
okay, so i've tried various roms both official and unofficial, as well as even the stock Nougat and Oreo flashable roms found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/rom-oreo-8-1-0-soak-test-t3873367
So far, the only ROM i've been able to get installed is omni rom 9, but it keeps crashing several apps over and over on the setup wizard. I've read somewhere that using a different version of TWRP recovery image might help. I've tried the official TWRP recovery from twrp.me, the patched arm64 version found here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tw...3-r1-athene-arm64_rajatgupta1998.img/download , also the latest version patched for efs backup/restore here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=29106#downloads. So far the the one that seems to work the best is the third version of TWRP. It would be nice if all these custom patches made it back into an official release, but it's probably asking a lot of a phone that is almost 4 years old at this point. and a budget friendly phone at that.
My Moto G5 Plus is telling me that my software is up to date, yet it's still running Android 7.0, but more importantly the security patch level is 1/1/17. I don't know about major OS updates, but there MUST be at least some updates out there that I'm not getting. Can someone link me to somewhere where I can find a .zip files for all OTA updates, so I can just flash the update and then flash Magisk again to retain root? Thanks!
You are probably not receiving OTA updates since you've rooted your phone, right? There was no major updates but there was few security patches this year. Which model exactly you have? That's gonna help in providing you correct links...
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
nlinecomputers said:
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
nlinecomputers said:
I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
nlinecomputers said:
I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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Sort of... OTA files can only be flashed on a pure stock system, no root, no TWRP, no Xposed, nothing changed in system, no removed packages, etc. If the OTA script even detects that /system was ever mounted R/W it can fail (I don't know if Moto goes that far).
To flash an OTA you must restore your stock ROM completely (/system, /boot, and any other system level partitions), and restore stock recovery, and all versions must match or the OTA script will crap out with an error.
The OTA files are out there, on this forum in various threads... you can find them along with instructions on how to apply them to rooted and stock systems.
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
nlinecomputers said:
Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Oh yeah... Moto's level of doing what the carriers "recommend" or whatever you want to call it, is ridiculous lately.
Good example is Nougat for the Moto X Pure Edition, if you are on Sprint or US Cellular you got it 2 months ago, but Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile users still haven't seen it. Except many users have figured it out, pop in a Boost Mobile SIM (not even activated) and it will grab the update almost immediately, let it apply, then swap your original SIM back in and enjoy some Nougat goodness. However that device never had a specific version for a certain carrier. Still today probably 80% of users of that FLAGSHIP device still haven't gotten an update that we know was completed in June/July, due to "partner approvals" or some such BS.
All these updates still come directly from Moto and their servers, but they are doing what the carriers tell them and only allowing it to certain devices... This has vaguely been admitted to by the mods on the official Lenovo support forums.
Honestly, many smaller brands with a history of poor update frequency get better update support than Moto's these days... My son's Axon 7 Mini already has 7.1.1 with the September update for BlueBourne, he got it the third week of September, and gets on every 3 months like clockwork. My faith in Moto is diminishing quickly, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on my last two (Moto X Pure Edition and Moto G 2015) because they were kind of transitional device during the Google-Lenovo switch over, and although my Moto G5 Plus is supported a little better I believe it is just because it is newer and not because Moto got better.
Chances this will be last Moto device? Let's just say this could be my last Moto device, and I have been a big Motorola fan for many years.
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
Can anyone link me where to find OTA updates for Moto G5 Plus and, if necessary, instructions? I don't see why the instructions would be any different from the OnePlus 5, other than Motorola making it harder on purpose.
FamilyGuy0395 said:
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
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Never said it was true for every phone or manufacturer, but that is the way it is with Moto devices... You cannot flash an OTA with TWRP, the script checks (among other things) the recovery and will fail if it doesn't have the correct signature, same with the modems, bootloader, partition table, and things in /system. Moto OTA updates are VERY picky and will fail at the drop of a hat on a device that is not purely stock.
The only work around, that works in SOME cases with Moto devices, is using FlashFire by Chainfire, but that is hit and miss, depends on what is updated.
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
Karlinski said:
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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Do you have a link to this thread? I am curious how the modems, partition table, and bootloader updates are handled since TWRP doesn't have the correct signature to write to these partitions. I can see where it could maybe update the boot and system partitions if they were extracted from the ROM, even if they are differential deltas, but my guess is that a "TWRP flashable" OTA is mearly an extract of a blank device's boot and system partition or just he changes, and packed into an OpenRecovery script, and not the "real" OTA file.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Q9Nap said:
Do NOT attempt to apply standard OTAs over these builds; they will fail.
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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The TWRP flashable stock builds DO upgrade the modem.
As stated in the OP, the only partitions NOT upgraded are gpt and bootloader.
I didn't omit these partitions because they can't be written; I omitted them to prevent potential issues for people who really don't know what they're doing.
Disabling dm-verity is required due to some partitions unavoidably losing their oem signatures during the conversion process.
Disabling force encryption is practically required, as TWRP seems buggy with it enabled.
The intended purpose of these builds is to provide a dead simple (and safe) way for users to return to stock.
I have linked useful tools at the bottom of the OP for those interested in making their own modifications to these stock builds.
Hope this helps :good:
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Hope this helps :good:
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It does actually, thank you... Obviously I have a lot to learn about the differences between current devices and older Moto devices I am used to working.
when trying to unlock the bootloader always has this message (failed to get unlock data please try again) and the only possibility of resolving this error is to flash the equivalent or higher bootloader of a ROM retasia 7.0 [CLARK_RETASIA_DS_7.0_NPHS25.200-15-3_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip] but the link is premium [http://gsmsolution.org/file-by-model.php?modelId=8962], Someone knows how to unlock the link or know of another where you can download this firmware
Obs: I need to unlock the bootloader to install twrp and restore my sister-in-law's efs folder with a backup I made from my device
Any link where you need to pay to download a factory firmware image is questionable at best... I would highly doubt it's authenticity.
We do not have the Nougat images for any device except the Moto X Pure Edition (XT1575, retus), which just leaked this weekend.
The fact this leaked lends to the possibility we may see other models soon, but it doesn't necessary mean that will happen... Firmware leaks from Moto are few and far between now days. Follow Moto Firmware Team on Twitter for the most up to date info, all leaked firmware seems to come from them in the last several months.
https://twitter.com/motofirmware123
This page does not have all the available web versions for the CLARK xt1570, xt1572, xt1575.
I know the [CLARK_RETASIA_DS_7.0_NPHS25.200-15-3_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip] firmware already has availability, I just need the link to download
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This page does not have all the available web versions for the CLARK xt1570, xt1572, xt1575.
I know the [CLARK_RETASIA_DS_7.0_NPHS25.200-15-3_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip] firmware already has availability, I just need the link to download
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https://mega.nz/#!lLxGGShK!c8tpxnfevA1WgfmMCL5mo7JjodIGNXv7OHx5PqHjXmQ
Hello,
I've just bought a second-hand moto G5 Plus that had a custom rom installed on it, I'm guessing it was also rooted at some point. It currently has the Aug 1 2018 version of 8.1:
build #: OPS28.85-13
It's been a while since I've messed about with flashing phones, so I wanted to ask for some assistance before potentially bricking the poor thing.
Ideally, I'd like to get it back on the stock update channel, so it can get OTA updates, but with root -- if that's not possible, I'd be almost as happy to just flash a Sept 1 2018 build (which my other 100% stock G5 plus already has) and root it. I've looked at a few posts here, notably this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
Though not knowing the exact history of the device, I'm reluctant to just follow the instructions. Can anyone provide some insight as to the safe(st) procedure?
Thanks!
-pir
You can't have root and receive updates from official channel at the same time.. the bootloader need to be locked to recieve updates.. you can however flash twrp on the device.. flash the stock rom( you will find latest in the forums).. and when the updates come out someone will capture it and make a flashabe zip, so you just need to flash that.. you can have root that way and stay updated.. cause from what I've read so far you don't get OTA when you're bootloader is unlocked..
That makes sense. So I guess the moto software won't even attempt an update if the bootloader is unlocked? Thanks!
Unlocked bootloader won't make any difference. The OTA update checks the system files and bootloader. If you have made any modifications to the system, kernel, or are running an older bootloader version the update will fail. Lock status of the bootloader makes no difference.
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