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Is there any way to get rid of them or to make them transparent?
Something I have tried time and time again to find out. There was a program called Pocket Facelift, which either got rid of them or cloned the today screen and superimposed an image over the top without the lines. I've searched for registry entries, hacks and cracks. Everything. Never been able to find it.
I still wish someone would produce a low memory footprint version of a screen that say the later Nokias and Samsungs have, where all the information about the phone is held in the corners (battery, SMS, signal, etc), leaving the rest of the screen for the picture (without lines).
Cheers
Ant
Anton.Valleyman said:
Something I have tried time and time again to find out. There was a program called Pocket Facelift, which either got rid of them or cloned the today screen and superimposed an image over the top without the lines. I've searched for registry entries, hacks and cracks. Everything. Never been able to find it.
I still wish someone would produce a low memory footprint version of a screen that say the later Nokias and Samsungs have, where all the information about the phone is held in the corners (battery, SMS, signal, etc), leaving the rest of the screen for the picture (without lines).
Cheers
Ant
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Anton.Valleyman: when you say "low memory", I guess WDA is out of the question
I hadn't seen Facelift before. The page seems to suggest that Facelift may be a replacement Today plugin host:
Today screen scrolling is fully supported. The today screen plugins are resized in order to avoid covering information by the scroll bar.
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Resizing Today plugins requires some messy coding or hosting plugins yourself. That might explain how they get rid of the seperator lines - if you host the plugins yourself, you obviously don't have to draw the lines... that's just a theory though!
still wish someone would produce a low memory footprint version of a screen that say the later Nokias and Samsungs have, where all the information about the phone is held in the corners (battery, SMS, signal, etc), leaving the rest of the screen for the picture (without lines).
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My unreleased VJEphemeris is entirely skinnable, and I'm trying to design it around a thumb friendly design. I want to use the corners in the way you described... but your idea is a good one, a nice clean full screen today plugin just showing basics, operator logo and a wallpaper is a nice idea...
For the lines, I just suggest you choose a color similar to your background. I use a plain white wallpaper, so easy for me
It might be feasible to do some hairy hacking to subclass the today screen and intercept the line drawing function, but I don't recommend it as an easy solution :shock:
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This might not be a P3600 only questions as much as a windows mobile 5 theme question maybe, but I have a HTC p3600 and I´m trying to find a "theme" or something that is more adapted for one hand usage on the touch screen. What I mean is not just another standard looking theme with just different colors and pictures, but a completely different design, like the Iphone menu design or something? Something where there are larger icons or fields on the today screen for all the apps for instance, so you don´t have to use the stylus to press them.. And maybe a larger keypad so you can type text messages with just your fingers, the same way you can type numbers to dial on the larger keys..
Anyone has any ideas?
You can have a look at the rltoday today plugin here :
http://rotlaus-software.de/
Concerning the input you can consider using "phonepad" there is a topic here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284378 (post #2)
and another one here for the trinity :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301318 (post #6)
Thanks a lot for your reply and suggestions. I´ll check them out directly!
Guys guys!
I posted this at PointUI forum aswell!
Listen up, is there anyone here that knows how to skin PocketCM?
It will be great, and i think a good idea, if we can try and design a PocketCM skin to fit PointUI?
Blue with white stuff in it??
I saw that PocketCM is quite skinnable.
What do you guys think? That way we can integrate PocketCM to fit PointUI?
I think it will be great! Any toughts?
skinning's not the problem. But scroll direction is.
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skinning's not the problem. But scroll direction is.
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It doesnt really matter....
Let PointUI scroll as it is. And Pocket CM as it is.
If someone can just skin it, to get it to fit with PointUI, it will look great......
And as we all know, pocket CM is great, it will be a nice compliment for each other......
- Grab an already excisting skin
- Change the extension .cmt to .zip and unzip it with winrar or something
- Change the background with this background: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355766
- Change the colours of every .png to a colour you want with photoshop or someting (in photoshop use ctr+u)
- zip it and change it to .cmt again
Good luck
Hope you like it!
It need some explaining:
- Extra large contact, with large pictures
- Removed the "filter" button, I never use it.. (it is still there in the settings.ini)
Still to do:
- Adjust some of the colors like, highlight buttons, grey bar at the top, grey highlight of the letters at the side...
Please give me comments...
I'm thinking about making a skin like the phone-log in PointUI, but I'm not sure it is possible in PocketCM to create a "always on top" image at the top of the screen...
Great
you did a great job, i will try the theme myself. thnx
Daanmannetje: great job but need finalize this theme
Ok, here is the improved version,
Do any of you know if it is possible to change the color of the selection?
Now PocketCM uses inverted colors, but it is ugly!
(Blue buttons at the bottom turn yellow if pressed)
I really like the concept. Recently fell in love with PointUI, and have been a big fan of PocketCM. My PocketCM started acting up after changing to this theme though. Soft reset my device, and still the same issue. Looks really good tho!
there's this one being develped: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356850
My theme works without problems on v0.18, but can give some problems on 0.16 or 0.17...
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Ok, here is the improved version,
Do any of you know if it is possible to change the color of the selection?
Now PocketCM uses inverted colors, but it is ugly!
(Blue buttons at the bottom turn yellow if pressed)
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Thanks alot man!
This is sweet!!! Now PocketCM looks like PointUI!
Time to play! I really appreciate it!!!
great work daanmannetje! im working on a skin 2, wish me good luck
good luck!
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My theme works without problems on v0.18, ...
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I love it, it works perfect in V0.18, thx.
and for vga devices.. could some on create 1 to?
I thought it was working automaticly on VGA screens with 0.18...
It is hard for me to adjust a theme for VGA, because I don't have a VGA device...
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Hope you like it!
It need some explaining:
- Extra large contact, with large pictures
- Removed the "filter" button, I never use it.. (it is still there in the settings.ini)
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Daanmannetje,
Would you consider adding an alternative skin with the "filter" button. I use it all the time?
Thanks,
cg
It is pretty easy to do yourself:
- open the zip file
- edit the settings.ini file (notepad)
- search for the part with the 0-33 33-66 and 66-100%
- the filter-icon is still there, I think i gave it 100-100% or something
- change it so it is 0-25 25-50 50-75 75-100
Have to admit, first thing I did was put the filter button back, which is a shame as the buttons background is wrong then and it ruins the skin.
really? I'll take a look at the button then...
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you were right, here is the new button. Just add it to the .zip-file!
Hello guys!
I think many of us came to the thinking that, though TouchFLO 3D is great UI, we should make something alternate, something that better fits our needs. And now, i think i'm ready to create one, but first we should decide how should it look like and how should it operate.
So, i propose a kind of "brainstorming contest" where you decide about the look of a new UI. But to avoid this turning into an annoying feature request list ("more tasks on today! please! please! please!" ), here are the rules:
- NO text-only suggestions - every post s/b illustrated with pen-and-paper drawing
- NO screenshots or photoshop cooks - only hand-drawings or something that look like em (yes, you can use digitizer tablet )
- drawings are NOT required to be professional - just something to illustrate you thoughts
- you are NOT required to develop the complete UI - you may just post suggestions about UI parts, but preferred things are unique navigation idea (try to forget about tabs), apps\tabs convergence, brand new useful apps/tabs
- best contributors ideas (possible with Manila API) will be implemented and their names will be listed in "About..." screen
Posts that violate rules (even best of them), will be ignored.
That's it.
maybe this is too open ended.. do you haev some ideas of your own that you might want to put forward?
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maybe this is too open ended.. do you haev some ideas of your own that you might want to put forward?
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I'm already implementing ideas of my own
I just wanted to know what do folks think/dream about
show us whatcha go then!
I think D-MAN666 doesn't want to influence people, this is a brainstorming If he starts with his idea, it is probable that nobody will post a completely different concept...
This might be a useful start for interface design:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397220
One thing I would love to see is a radial menu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_menu
Similar to tap-and-hold for a context menu, but instead of a list popping up, a radial menu appears. You could fit 8-12 options around the circle, which would cover TF3d's pages.
So in usage, tap for the popup radial menu, then:
- swipe up for Contacts
- swipe right for Music
- swipe down for Home
- etc
IMO, it's much easier to be accurate in swiping at different angles/directions than it is to be precise with the default TF3d slider tabs, so you could really speed your way through the interface. The same could apply elsewhere: tap and hold a contact, then swipe up to call, left to SMS, right to email, etc.
For other thoughts, here's a read on interface optimization (for the technically inclined):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts's_law
And maybe later if I'm bored I'll draw some mockups
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
sorry for breaking the rules, but everyone else is lol...thats a link to the WM7 concept design...along with theoretical gestures...i really digg the battery bar on the bottom and the reception bar...
Ill be the first then...
A quick drawing i knocked up... manila stays very much the same but basicaly show page navigation on the manila both horizontal and vertical..
I hope its clear enough
2 ideas here
I am going to break the rules since I'ma t work and can't really be seen drawing lol.
Here they are:
- Make use of the touch capacitative ability of the the buttons panel. It's made up of three touch panels. Maybe a swipe from left to right to unlock and right to left to lock.
- Display applications within tabs. Ex: Being able to display Icontact when sliding to the contact tab.
And for UI inspiration, I would look here:
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/setupsaskins/45-091setups/69-new-minimal-flow-theme
Ok, here's my concept
The general idea is to keep most of manilla look'n feel, just remove useless animations/transitions, and change the home screen.
Changes : on the right side of the screen, a scrollbar similar to the "contacts" one appears. It controls the content of the box under the clock.
On the left, a button to maximize (take the place of the clock) the box, and a fast vibrator/ring permutation button.
So, by scrolling the bar, the content of the box changes, could be call log, contacts, fast program launcher, music player, and so on.
The idea is to keep complex functionalities (camera, tv, etc) needing full screen accessible by the manilla bar, and quick&fast features such as logs, sms, player accessible on the main screen.
Nice idea, man
Hi there,
just a thought on a possible gui for the UI, instead of tabs, layers (don't know if that's possible, but it would be very cool imho)
you could have multiple layers, and have the layers in the backgound fade out and become smaller (perspective) and use a swipe up or down to navigate
Anything happening on here?
Just wondering
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Hi there,
just a thought on a possible gui for the UI, instead of tabs, layers (don't know if that's possible, but it would be very cool imho)
you could have multiple layers, and have the layers in the backgound fade out and become smaller (perspective) and use a swipe up or down to navigate
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great idea!
like the game u can get on Playstation 3... where u 'swim' around collecting stuff and going thru lvls....
I'm thinking that the Ximoon idea is quite good but one thing that should be included is landscape option and I'm not talking about TP version but one with the same functions like the portrait one
I like the idea of the circular menus...
well first of all thanks to you guys you are doing awsome work and its always funn spendin my free time in your forums
now to my idea
does anybody know the film : the lawnmower man? theres one scene almost at the end of the film where he tries to escape to the internet i think the idea is quite amazing movn in a bowl and havin litle windows to select.
what do ya think
this is the link to the movie scene just skip it forward to about 5 minutes
Edit: sry forgot the link :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doAnB5_eDnw&feature=related
I am looking for some help from the many people on here more talented than me, I have very basic programing skills but am hoping to learn more though this process.
The plan : Create an app for winmo that can do similar to this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/14/email_n_walk/ ideally for texting as well as email.
My ideas so far (very early stages):
1. Use the generic windows messaging screen and replace the white standard background with a transparent one, probably with shaded area for tx to make it readable, and call the camera app behind it.
2. Use the tf3d messaging screen and use something like MunBackground all tabs to again run the camera view instead of a static picture.
In an ideal world I would only like to use one of these methods meaning that text/email could be written with or without the camera app running.
I would appriciate any input and help with this, I am well aware this will be made more difficult with my lack of experience, but am hopful that the wealth of knowlege here can help.
Im sorry, i cant offer my help, but you have my support; this would be great, especially for wvga devices.
If I understanded, you want transparent screen to send messages?
I'd be willing to donate some money toward anyone who could create such an application.
I'm sure came across this before as an idea if i'm reading it correct, the problem being that when we walk we don't hold the phone up infront so we'd be viewing the floor infront of our feet
One way would be to take a picture every x ms and draw it and additional items like rectangles and text in the paint method of a panel control.
P.S.: How would it look like in manila? Remember this fake/bug live camera image in home screen?
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stylez said:
I'm sure came across this before as an idea if i'm reading it correct, the problem being that when we walk we don't hold the phone up infront so we'd be viewing the floor infront of our feet
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Possibly not completely upright, but maybe 45 deg, and would still stop you tripping over stuff!!
heliosdev said:
One way would be to take a picture every x ms and draw it and additional items like rectangles and text in the paint method of a panel control.
P.S.: How would it look like in manila? Remember this fake/bug live camera image in home screen?
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In my head, it would ideally be a seperate way of opening/writing text/email to save battery life when not needed, and would probably be a video/camera image behind, with a semi transparent overlay/greyed out area where message text was typed to enable the text to be readable.
Will try out that diamond bug/fake