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Hi guys,
I have a question. I just won a Nexus One on ebay and the guy that sells it tells me it's SIM locked to T-Mobile. Is there such a version ? And if so, how easy is it to unlock it myself ?
Waiting for your answers, thanks in advance!!!
Nope. All N1's are sim unlocked.
Even when bought with a T-Mobile program ? Sorry for asking again but this guy insists that it's locked. And I also found some site that offer unlock services for the Nexus One, so I reaaaaaally want to make sure before buying one as I won't be able to return it if there is a problem as I live in Greece
johnny21a said:
Even when bought with a T-Mobile program ? Sorry for asking again but this guy insists that it's locked. And I also found some site that offer unlock services for the Nexus One, so I reaaaaaally want to make sure before buying one as I won't be able to return it if there is a problem as I live in Greece
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My understanding is that no N1's are sim locked. Google said the same when the phone was released. Worst case scenario is that you'll have to drop $10-15 to get an unlock code online, but I'm pretty sure it's unlocked.
Anyone else care to comment?
All Nexus Ones come unlocked. There is no locked version of the Nexus One - it would defeat one of the imperial concepts Google is shipping with the phone.
if that is the case so why people is buying unlocked N1s
it's much cheaper to buy T-Mobile version and then put any sim inside
am i right or i am missing something????
obadvw said:
if that is the case so why people is buying unlocked N1s
it's much cheaper to buy T-Mobile version and then put any sim inside
am i right or i am missing something????
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The T-Mobile version requires a 2 year contract which over its lifespan will cost more than buying the unsubsidized version upfront.
And to the OP, Google has said that all N1 phones are unlocked whether its subsidized or not - one of the advantages of selling the phone themselves.
Even if your phone 'is' Sim locked, which it's probably not, after 90 days of service with T-Mobile, you can call them, ask for an unlock code, and they will send you one via email, for free. Don't pay money to some idiot on eBay when you can do this yourself at zero cost, especially since you likely won't have to do it at all.
Also, stop pressuring the seller about whether or not it's really locked or not. Maybe he'll look into it, find out it's really unlocked after all, and jack up the price!
SpyderMS said:
Even if your phone 'is' Sim locked, which it's probably not, after 90 days of service with T-Mobile, you can call them, ask for an unlock code, and they will send you one via email, for free. Don't pay money to some idiot on eBay when you can do this yourself at zero cost, especially since you likely won't have to do it at all.
Also, stop pressuring the seller about whether or not it's really locked or not. Maybe he'll look into it, find out it's really unlocked after all, and jack up the price!
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The OP is from Greece.
uansari1 said:
The OP is from Greece.
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I suppose he could try asking the seller to call T-Mobile and get the unlock code.
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I suppose he could try asking the seller to call T-Mobile and get the unlock code.
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It would be an option if the phone was locked... but it's not. I don't know of any way that a normal consumer can lock a sim unlocked phone.
uansari1 said:
It would be an option if the phone was locked... but it's not. I don't know of any way that a normal consumer can lock a sim unlocked phone.
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I know it's not locked, but he's paranoid it could be. It was just a suggestion to ease his fears
I know for a fact that some nexus ones are locked
I know this is an old thread, but it's what i found try to figure out why i my phone didn't work with a tmobile sim while on a business trip. I Purchased my nexus one from KT olleh in Korea in march '11. I call KT and they connected me to HTC in Korea. HTC gave me the unlock code for free over the phone. I just wanted to share so that other people with locked N1s don't think they going insane. The FAQ should probably be updated.
FAQ Updated:
- Q13: Is Nexus One carrier-locked? Will it work with my carrier / network?
A: There should be no such thing as carrier-locked N1. All the rumors of carrier-locked N1s, including bits of misinformation from SFR/Vodafone, are untrue. There might be several weird cases, only one reported on the forum after 1 year of phone existence, in which the previous statements won't hold - but if truly existent, these are abnormalities.
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Hola peeps. I just ordered a new T-Mobile HTC HD2 off ebay Saturday, and i'm expecting it between tomorrow and Wednesday. I'm going to need the phone unlocked, and am planning to buy a $10 code off ebay. Now, has anyone else done this and it works? Where do people normally buy their unlock codes? If I accidently put in a wrong code how many tries do I have before it locks up? What happens when it locks up? Will a hard reset fix the lockup? Would someone here be willing to call T-Mobile for me if I give them my IMEI and ask for an unlock code? Thanks, hopefully I can get all my questions answered!
PurpleLlamaLover said:
Hola peeps. I just ordered a new T-Mobile HTC HD2 off ebay Saturday, and i'm expecting it between tomorrow and Wednesday. I'm going to need the phone unlocked, and am planning to buy a $10 code off ebay. Now, has anyone else done this and it works? Where do people normally buy their unlock codes?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652562&highlight=unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673791&highlight=unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652512&highlight=unlock
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If I accidently put in a wrong code how many tries do I have before it locks up? What happens when it locks up? Will a hard reset fix the lockup? Would someone here be willing to call T-Mobile for me if I give them my IMEI and ask for an unlock code? Thanks, hopefully I can get all my questions answered!
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I've never tried to unlock a phone myself, I've always taken them to the store and had someone there do it.
Anyone else wanna take a crack at those last three?
I think its 4 incorrect entries, and i also think it has to be reset by the carrier (or maybe manufacturer)
but maybe thats just poeple getting confused with sim card lock.
Hard reset wont affect it, its part of a different system within the phone, same with the unlock itself (when it works) and also the same with total call duration timers.
Ugh, so if I call T-Mobile, can I get an unlock code? I don't have any proof pf purchase and i'm not a customer. If I gave my IMEI to a person on T-Mobile could they unlock it for me if I cant?
PurpleLlamaLover said:
Ugh, so if I call T-Mobile, can I get an unlock code? I don't have any proof pf purchase and i'm not a customer. If I gave my IMEI to a person on T-Mobile could they unlock it for me if I cant?
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T-Mobile can't unlock this one right off the bat.
As part of their new "Security", they changed the way the phones are locked now.
HTC is the only one who can get the unlock code, but they will only respond to T-Mobile.
You have to request the unlock code from T-Mobile and they will contact HTC, who will email the unlock code back to T-Mobile, who will pass it on to you. This process can take several weeks, depending on the workloads at each end of the process.
All of this is explained in those links I gave you from my first response, but some of it is buried in deep.
I am not a fan of T-Mobile's new security policy, but it seems to be effective.
I saw a post just the other day where someone with a newer phone than mine (bought mine April 4th) couldn't get it unlocked with the current commercial methods and would have no choice but to finish paying the phone off before requesting the codes from T-Mobile.
If this continues, T-Mobile should be seeing a slower attrition rate with this phone than they have others, with new customers ending their contracts and moving to AT&T or Rogers (etc.). Once they see a difference, you can bet your bottom dollar that they will continue to release phones that are manufacturer-locked, making it as difficult to unlock as possible.
So if I call, will they give me an unlock code? If not can I ask someone I know to ask for one?
I would like to know if it is possible to sell this phone, in a working condition to someone else. Or is this phone forever tied to me? I currently have this phone and one on another carrier which is much cheaper and cannot afford the hero ATM
cweezyf said:
I would like to know if it is possible to sell this phone, in a working condition to someone else. Or is this phone forever tied to me? I currently have this phone and one on another carrier which is much cheaper and cannot afford the hero ATM
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Did you sign a contract? If so, you should talk to Sprint about that. We aren't contract lawyers.
Well i didnt actually SIGN anything.. haha but yes I am under contract, I have left carriers before while under contract, with no problems though.
But my question remains the same, if the phone IS tied to me, because of contract or other reasons, is there a way to revert it to a new-like state in which someone could purchase and use the phone? This IS a hacking website after all.
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Well i didnt actually SIGN anything.. haha but yes I am under contract, I have left carriers before while under contract, with no problems though.
But my question remains the same, if the phone IS tied to me, because of contract or other reasons, is there a way to revert it to a new-like state in which someone could purchase and use the phone? This IS a hacking website after all.
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Have you rooted it? If so, you should probably RUU unless they actually WANT the rooted phone. Other than that, you should simply need to format the SD card and do a factory wipe of the phone data. That would return the phone to a factory state.
cweezyf said:
Well i didnt actually SIGN anything.. haha but yes I am under contract, I have left carriers before while under contract, with no problems though.
But my question remains the same, if the phone IS tied to me, because of contract or other reasons, is there a way to revert it to a new-like state in which someone could purchase and use the phone? This IS a hacking website after all.
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Well, if you have this phone flashed to another carrier, you'll need to get it all setup back to Sprint before someone else can take it over. But chances are as long as you didn't clone the ESN or something illegal. You can sell it off just fine.
Best bet is to call Sprint and have them check the ESN before you sell it. They can look it up and make sure it can be activated. If there is an unpaid bill on the ESN or if it was ever reported stolen, they will not activate it.
The phone is NOT tied to you once you've been released from your account obligation. People sell their CDMA phones all the time. This isn't a problem
okay, But if i sold it and DIDNT tell sprint, and just stopped paying the bill could it still be activated? BTW it is not flashed to use another carrier. But It would nice if i could unlock it to open up the possibilty of an international sale.
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okay, But if i sold it and DIDNT tell sprint, and just stopped paying the bill could it still be activated? BTW it is not flashed to use another carrier. But It would nice if i could unlock it to open up the possibilty of an international sale.
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It can't be sold internationally because USA is the only country with CDMA.
Nope a phone has to have a clean ESN to be put on another account. A bad ESN means phone came from an account which still has a balance or was stolen.
You don't even really have to tell sprint, if you activate another phone on the account and remove the Hero... But something has to be active on the account in its place - They pretty much hold the phone hostage until you have paid them.
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okay, But if i sold it and DIDNT tell sprint, and just stopped paying the bill could it still be activated? BTW it is not flashed to use another carrier. But It would nice if i could unlock it to open up the possibilty of an international sale.
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You can stop paying and sell the phone. Its not a problem. Unless someone reports the phone stolen then it will get a bad ESN number. If you just simply sell it or give it to someone else, it will work perfectly fine.
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You can stop paying and sell the phone. Its not a problem. Unless someone reports the phone stolen then it will get a bad ESN number. If you just simply sell it or give it to someone else, it will work perfectly fine.
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Ummm no. Have you ever registered a phone that came from an account that still had a balance on it? It won't work
Arrgggh so im getting conflicting answers here. Thats okay though. It makes alot of sense that you wouldnt be able to sell your phone until your balance is paid/ different phone switched to same account.
So ill ask this; is there a way to clean/reset your ESN? That would be ideal.
I've also heard the idea of selling the phone for "parts", but that sounds less appealing because im sure nobody is in the market for a "parts" Hero. Unless someone has knowledge of the contrary.
try selling the phone and transferring the account to someone else at the same time, just go with them to a sprint store. I THINK that can be done.
As for changing the ESN you won't find help for that here as it's illegal.
I thought I started this thread but it seems to have disappeared ? Anyway thought I'd start it back up since there are many of us in Canada will likely be going this route. Any quirks between carrier settings or special settings needed for this to work fairly flawlessly ?
Only thing you need is to add proper apn settings to make it work on any other carrier, that and the phone has to be unlocked.
im waiting this too lol for mexico the thing its when will be unlocked!!!i cant wait lol
Ahhh yess... the good old "locked" phone scenario. I guess that would be same issue with AT&T model.
APN settings shouldn't be an issue for data. I know the exact one to use for FIDO but MMS might still be an issue?
peachpuff said:
Only thing you need is to add proper apn settings to make it work on any other carrier, that and the phone has to be unlocked.
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Never dealt with an unlocked phone before. What exactly do you have to do to unlock it?
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Never dealt with an unlocked phone before. What exactly do you have to do to unlock it?
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You have to get a special code either from bell, a store that unlocks phones etc. Bell will usually give it to you after you bought for a month while at the store the code is like $10. (Each phone has a different code) Then you just input the code (each phone has a different method but it's very easy.)
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You have to get a special code either from bell, a store that unlocks phones etc. Bell will usually give it to you after you bought for a month while at the store the code is like $10. (Each phone has a different code) Then you just input the code (each phone has a different method but it's very easy.)
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Wait, so if I bought it from Bell, I'd have to wait a month before they'd give it to me? There's no way I just couldn't buy it outright from them?
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Wait, so if I bought it from Bell, I'd have to wait a month before they'd give it to me? There's no way I just couldn't buy it outright from them?
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the unlock code let you use any sim in the atrix from any carrier in the world (of course that are bands compatible) so many people (like me) want the unlock code so i can buy it from at&t and then use the unlcok code to use it in my country that have the same bands
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the unlock code let you use any sim in the atrix from any carrier in the world (of course that are bands compatible) so many people (like me) want the unlock code so i can buy it from at&t and then use the unlcok code to use it in my country that have the same bands
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No, I know. He said that Bell would give me the unlock code so I could use it on Rogers, but I'd have to wait a month after I bought it. I was asking if there was any way I could just buy the unlock code from Bell right away.
Yes that is something I mentioned in the previous thread that I started (now gone). I mentioned that it is very likely Bell would keep the phone for their own customers (existing or new sign up), so they may not sell you the phone at all without a contract with them. Unlock codes can be had on the internet for $25 or less, but will Bell sell the phone with no contract. Let`s see what happens.
Bell selling you the phone off contract is ENTIRELY based off of which person you talk to. They're all allowed to do it, but it's looked down on since they make less money if you do it that way.
the other thing that you may have to look into is ATT probably has tethering disabled. I for one want to use this on Telus. it'll have to be rooted (I assume) to be able to use this feature. Plus all of att's bloatware which I'd want to get rid of as well (again rooting will do the trick)
Odd's are Bell won't be the only ones selling it; re-sellers will probably have it off contract as well (Tbooth, bestbuy.ca maybe walmart) but I was surprised this morning when I looked at bestbuy US and Amazon, they are selling it for 599, so off contract at bestbuy.ca and Tbooth they'll probably have it for 699/799 (just my guess though)
well it looks like the bloatware is just a matter of uninstalling it, very glad its not part of the ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960917
kenio8185 said:
Bell selling you the phone off contract is ENTIRELY based off of which person you talk to. They're all allowed to do it, but it's looked down on since they make less money if you do it that way.
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You are right, I got this confirmed by a Cell Phone sales representative.
I visited a Bell Store and a The Source and both told me that I can buy the Atrix full price, but I have to activate it with Bell (35$) + Pay for the first month (50$).
The reason is that if they sell only the phone, they get only 1$ from bell.
If they sell a plan they get 5$ !
My advise, shop around until you find someone that is not that cheap, or just offer him/her the 5 bucks
i typed in the apn settings on my phone the internet only works on the broswer all the apps dont get 3g
but when i switch to wifi everything works :S
weird anyone want to help a newwwwwwwwwebee iphone user?
I have a Bell Atrix on Telus.
cellunlock.net is the cheapest and i've used them for 5 phones so far. 14.99 for any Moto phone, use android50 coupon code for 50% off (if it still works)
The folks instore didn't know anything about unlocking, Telus CSR told me it was 50$ to unlock the desire before i sold it, i was like EFF THAT!
I bought the phone for 599$ but I sold my Desire for 250 and my Milestone for 250$, 100$ to upgrade wasn't bad.
Entered APN and everything is dandy.
rogers/fido users
fido and rogers users may run in to an issue with their call display/name display feature.
when you receive calls they will show up as "payphone" on your display and won't show the name or number of the person that is calling.
to fix this its simply a matter of calling rogers and asking them to "exclude" (very important to say exclude because they cannot remove just the name display but they CAN exclude it. found that out after 4 different calls between tech support and customer care). once the name display is excluded you can now see the numbers of the caller, and if they are already in your phone you will see their name as well.
Hi together,
due to the great price for the phone via Sprint, there are several pretty cheap ones also on ebay. I want to use the phone only outside the US (Germany) - is there any problem when it is locked to Sprint? Few years ago i imported a Verizon Locked Photon Q, and as i remember it was fully usable outside the US.
The ebay listing also includes the IMEI of the phones, and when i check them, they are "Clean on Sprint". But does that mean that they are locked? And if so, can i somehow unlock the phone, when i am in Germany and not on a Sprint Network?
Sorry about the confusion, i dont really get you phone locking stuff in the US
Best regards and thank you so much in advance!
If the phone is truly still locked to Sprint, it probably won't work with any other SIM card (the phone will just report Invalid SIM). You could look at ting.com/byod and check the IMEI there to see if it reports clear GSM / CDMA capabilities. If that shows up OK, then it at least doesn't have any financial obligation, and it should work.
Are you sure the phones are still Sprint Locked? Or was the seller just indicating they were Sprint variant phones, and were unlocked?
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If the phone is truly still locked to Sprint, it probably won't work with any other SIM card (the phone will just report Invalid SIM). You could look at ting.com/byod and check the IMEI there to see if it reports clear GSM / CDMA capabilities. If that shows up OK, then it at least doesn't have any financial obligation, and it should work.
Are you sure the phones are still Sprint Locked? Or was the seller just indicating they were Sprint variant phones, and were unlocked?
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Thank you so much for the fast reply :good:
- I checked multiple lisitings from this seller at ting.com/byod, and they all say its compatible with ting/gsm/cdma. So if i get this right, the phone itself should not be locked then, because its neither stolen nor in financial trouble?
- i dont know if i am able to post ebay links here, one of the lisitings from this seller is 332465030454 - the seller just says that the buyer itself should check the IMEI. But as i understood it, i cant check if the phone is net/simlocked to sprint, just if its "legal"..
regards
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Thank you so much for the fast reply :good:
- I checked multiple lisitings from this seller at ting.com/byod, and they all say its compatible with ting/gsm/cdma. So if i get this right, the phone itself should not be locked then, because its neither stolen nor in financial trouble?
- i dont know if i am able to post ebay links here, one of the lisitings from this seller is 332465030454 - the seller just says that the buyer itself should check the IMEI. But as i understood it, i cant check if the phone is net/simlocked to sprint, just if its "legal"..
regards
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I really wish I was able to give you a definitive answer, esp. since you are in Germany, as the return capabilities are a lot harder since it takes a while to ship back and forth. I was reviewing the company's website to see where they get their inventory, but couldn't really come up with a clear answer. They do indicate in the FAQ that they offer a service to test the ESN for a fee, but it doesn't go into much detail. Maybe give them a call, or send the seller a message on ebay to see if they are willing to pop in a non-sprint sim to verify it at least doesn't report back invalid - sim.
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I really wish I was able to give you a definitive answer, esp. since you are in Germany, as the return capabilities are a lot harder since it takes a while to ship back and forth. I was reviewing the company's website to see where they get their inventory, but couldn't really come up with a clear answer. They do indicate in the FAQ that they offer a service to test the ESN for a fee, but it doesn't go into much detail. Maybe give them a call, or send the seller a message on ebay to see if they are willing to pop in a non-sprint sim to verify it at least doesn't report back invalid - sim.
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Just to let you know about the outcome - they cannot guarantee that it is unlocked
Hopefully there will be another Amazon Deal or somebody doesnt need his F&F code
Kampfgans said:
Just to let you know about the outcome - they cannot guarantee that it is unlocked
Hopefully there will be another Amazon Deal or somebody doesnt need his F&F code
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So what was the outcome? I have one ebay seller that isn't sure either. He bought it from sprint. Wanted to use it in Germany
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So what was the outcome? I have one ebay seller that isn't sure either. He bought it from sprint. Wanted to use it in Germany
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Assume anything bought from Sprint that the seller can't verify was active on Sprint's network for 50 days as unusable.
Sprint will only generate ISU (international SIM Unlock) that is permanent after a device has been on the network for 50 days.
This policy is strictly enforced and even if the device is paid off, it does not matter.
Hello guys and happy new year.
I'm planning to buy the essential phone from ebay. I have found some quite interesting offers from sprint locked devices. My question is the device will work at cosmote greece?
„Invalid sim“
I bought an essential phone from USA a few days ago and it is sim locked for sprint and I have not found any way to make it simlock free.
It says invalid sim.
I can use it as an expensive MP3 player or camera or when using WiFi.
But not as a telephone.
I asked the seller for help. He said he would call sprint.
I was able to flash Oreo beta2 Android 8.
In fast boot mode the mobile said it was a sprint variant.
I guess only sprint can made it sim lock free with a code.
If there is no solution I will maybe have to send it back.
What a pity situation. Why is essential phone not selling the phone for Europe ?
That's what I was afraid about. Thought a proper rom flash could remove the lock. But it seems you can't do it yourself. Essential will bring it to Europe. But when is not sure.
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So what was the outcome? I have one ebay seller that isn't sure either. He bought it from sprint. Wanted to use it in Germany
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As already mentioned above -the seller could not guarantee it to me that i will be able to use it.
Finally, i ended up ordering it directly from Essential. Have it since 2 weeks now, works great on Telekom!
Hi, I am in Ireland and got a PH-1 which was locked by Sprint but i contacted them and they told me they have unlocked it for me and i can use it in Ireland but i am actually not able to use it on any network here, it just says Invalid Sim every time i put the sim card in.
Can anyone help me please?
forget sprint in europe!
In Germany it does not work with "Sprint" Locked Essential Phone.
Sam.anas said:
Hi, I am in Ireland and got a PH-1 which was locked by Sprint but i contacted them and they told me they have unlocked it for me and i can use it in Ireland but i am actually not able to use it on any network here, it just says Invalid Sim every time i put the sim card in.
Can anyone help me please?
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The only way to unlock it is with a Sprint SIM and they update the the phone or enter in a code.
Heloo i bought essential ph-1 amd it says invalid sim card. Im from georgia and want to work gsm carrier. Can i unlock the phone?