Hi community,
Not sure if this goes against TOS of the forum or if this is even the correct forum to be posting this question in. What is preventing a root from being created for 6.0.1? What would help get a root created for this phone?
I am willing to pay someone to create a working root method; whether it be public or just for me. I have an adequate number of phones to help develop a root. Applicants must be a trusted member of the community with a high reputation.
Please no flame comments. Only serious responses.
Thanks,
Andrew
root on marshmellow requires a unlocked bootloader (this applies to ANY marshmellow device )
if you have a CID15 device you can flash back to PB1 unlock the bootloader and then flash whatever 6.01 rooted rom you want
if you have a a CID11 device with a non-unlockable boot-loader you are SOL its impossible to root marshmallow with dm-verity enabled and there is no way around that
dm-verity cryptographicly checks the block map of the /system partition if there is so much as a text file out of place it won't boot
Legitsu said:
root on marshmellow requires a unlocked bootloader (this applies to ANY marshmellow device )
if you have a CID15 device you can flash back to PB1 unlock the bootloader and then flash whatever 6.01 rooted rom you want
if you have a a CID11 device with a non-unlockable boot-loader you are SOL its impossible to root marshmallow with dm-verity enabled and there is no way around that
dm-verity cryptographicly checks the block map of the /system partition if there is so much as a text file out of place it won't boot
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Thanks for the response. It was very informative. I'll check which chipset I have on the phones. Hopefully there are some that are downgradable.
Not sure if my terminology is correct but does samsung offer an option to register the device as unlocked? Similar to how HTC offers an option to unlock it? Where they send you the unlock key or something.
andrewr74 said:
Thanks for the response. It was very informative. I'll check which chipset I have on the phones. Hopefully there are some that are downgradable.
Not sure if my terminology is correct but does samsung offer an option to register the device as unlocked? Similar to how HTC offers an option to unlock it? Where they send you the unlock key or something.
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no the only bootloader unlock we have is for s5's with samsung flash memory aka CID15 devices
you can check which you have with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check&hl=en
first two numbers if its a 15 you are good follow the root and unlock threads if its a 11 nope you are sol
Legitsu said:
no the only bootloader unlock we have is for s5's with samsung flash memory aka CID15 devices
you can check which you have with this
first two numbers if its a 15 you are good follow the root and unlock threads if its a 11 nope you are sol
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Yeah, I checked a handful of my phones and 2 of the 5 were CID 15. I was successfully able to downgrade to 5.0 and root. Using an app to check every phone is very annoying since I have to sideload the apk and launch which takes too long. Do you know of anyway using ADB that I could determine the eMMc chipset?
I spoke with Samsung for a possible solution that is equivalent to a root and they suggested Nox Console. Where I can remove bloatware and disable certain features of the phone for $3ea. Which is alright for locking down the device but apps that require root to accomplish what I need... So not much help there.
In your opinion, what are the chances someone creates a root for CID 11? Impossible?
andrewr74 said:
Yeah, I checked a handful of my phones and 2 of the 5 were CID 15. I was successfully able to downgrade to 5.0 and root. Using an app to check every phone is very annoying since I have to sideload the apk and launch which takes too long. Do you know of anyway using ADB that I could determine the eMMc chipset?
I spoke with Samsung for a possible solution that is equivalent to a root and they suggested Nox Console. Where I can remove bloatware and disable certain features of the phone for $3ea. Which is alright for locking down the device but apps that require root to accomplish what I need... So not much help there.
In your opinion, what are the chances someone creates a root for CID 11? Impossible?
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if you searched the forum before asking any of this you would know the answer to that No not gonna happen extensive research was done it s impossible with the current method we have
for locked devices if you simply wanna turn apps off or block ota's I recommend this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
cat /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid
will return the cid from a shell
CID11's can be downgraded to 5.01 and then you can get root but NOT marshmallow and higher
oncid 15 devices you can unlock the bootloader https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
and flash a rooted marshmallow rom if you already have root you can skip right to method 2
Legitsu said:
if you searched the forum before asking any of this you would know the answer to that No not gonna happen extensive research was done it s impossible with the current method we have
for locked devices if you simply wanna turn apps off or block ota's I recommend this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
cat /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid
will return the cid from a shell
CID11's can be downgraded to 5.01 and then you can get root but NOT marshmallow and higher
oncid 15 devices you can unlock the bootloader https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
and flash a rooted marshmallow rom if you already have root you can skip right to method 2
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That emmc command worked perfectly!
I don't load any custom roms so only getting root on stock 5.0 is exactly what I want. I was unaware CID11 was downgradable, the other post were a tad confusing in regards to the CIDs. I guess it was the terminology that I did not understand.
Thank you for the help!
andrewr74 said:
That emmc command worked perfectly!
I don't load any custom roms so only getting root on stock 5.0 is exactly what I want. I was unaware CID11 was downgradable, the other post were a tad confusing in regards to the CIDs. I guess it was the terminology that I did not understand.
Thank you for the help!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ow-to-flash-custom-6-0-1-roms-locked-t3393943
PB1 = 5.0
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It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
zoid_99 said:
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
Junior Passos said:
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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Hmmm interesting.
Then the process should be with CF-Auto-Root .
I used one of those before when I first root in Lollipop.
But thought the command "mfastboot boot cf-auto-root.img" only work with unlocked bootloader and not the locked too.
Amazing.
Me excite!
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
godutch said:
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
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Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
GatorsUF said:
Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
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No.
cam30era said:
No.
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OF course
This revelation means that Android 5.0 users*no longer need to run a modified kernel to gain root access via SuperSU (or other root solutions). While not a huge problem on Nexus devices with unlockable bootloaders, the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here, and we can present an exclusive explanation of the changes needed. At least for now (until/unless Google patch this), it is possible to gain root access and then install and use SuperSU on a stock Android 5.0 device, without any kernel ramdisk tweaking. The reason for this is the need for SuperSU to run a service as root, to allow for unconstrained root access on SELinux-protected devices.
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Thanks Motorola -_-
Buy a nexus 6. That's what I did. Still have the moto x for my wife so I can play with it
Can't afford it right now. If I knew programming, you bet I would be working on it. God I hate Verizon, but been here so long it's my cheapest option.
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
GrandMstrBud said:
Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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GrandMstrBud said:
LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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No, CDMA will not work, nor 3G. So you will be confined only to LTE service and Google Voice (or similar).
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Looks like your idea will not work and maybe that's the reason for this thread? Pure Edition won't work on VZW
Hey,
I have two questions about the Axon7 and rooting in general.
First is, if there is a possibility to root the Axon7 without an unlocked bootloader. Just need the root for some Apps (e.g. adaway).
The second is: if there is a possibility to root the Axon, will OTA Updates work or how do I get updates?
Thanks for your help.
Gebo
Nobody Knows and Nobody Knows, in that order. Really, there's a gazillion threads about this already.
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
GeboGER said:
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
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isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
pwnerman said:
isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
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Well, you were able root without unlocked bootloader if there's a software exploit back in the day but those are very rare these day.
Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
Harmtan2 said:
Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
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Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
I know that for the zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) there was untethered twrp, this was then used to flash SuperSU to the device granting root access BUT that was when it was released with Android 5.0 Lollipop...
Hopefully this can carried over to Marshmallow for the Zenfone 3, it might give us some hope too...
Depends how many Devs actually get this device....
xtermmin said:
Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
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Darn companies not wanting us to screw around with our devices! Lol I can see why they don't want us to in a way. I just want more customized options.
I'm sure there's been many posts on how to root this device before. But my S5 is AT&T, and just received the Marshmallow update last week. Not to mention the last samsung I had attempted to root (S4, 4.4.1 kitkat) didn't end too well.
Can anyone give me links to forums OR if you know how to root my device, care to help me?
-Jos3ph Tayl0r
(jack_null)
You'll not get root access on that s5 active if it's on marshmallow due to the bootloader being locked. I have one and the only reason I have root on it is because I still have the OC5 bootloader on it so it will forever be on TMS5. Sorry buddy.
LuNySLiM said:
You'll not get root access on that s5 active if it's on marshmallow due to the bootloader being locked. I have one and the only reason I have root on it is because I still have the OC5 bootloader on it so it will forever be on TMS5. Sorry buddy.
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So we're fresh out of luck?
No other options?
Can't unlock the locked bootloader?
Can't downgrade?
Just got to take it. Well f.....
Thanks
I hear I had root options. I'm getting this phone in 2 days from Amazon. I'm searching through forums now. Anyone have anything to add here? Any info would n appreciated.
Skebodan said:
So we're fresh out of luck?
No other options?
Can't unlock the locked bootloader?
Can't downgrade?
Just got to take it. Well f.....
Thanks
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I do believe they have a way to downgrade back to lollipop now and get root access on lollipop but you will need to check your build version/number and see if it matches the one in their instructions. Here's one for s5active which is what I have but I don't see the one for s5. On another note my g870 build has been g900 for as long as I've had it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/guide-merry-christmas-heres-t3516196
I got the v20 ,...i got the bootloader unlock h-918... looking for root..tried lg g5 method...didnt work may try tomorrow...other methods such as one click and kingo doesnt work at all....
i think its due to the newest security patches..I dont know but am still searching...Any thoughts
bountyman334 said:
I got the v20 ,...i got the bootloader unlock h-918... looking for root..tried lg g5 method...didnt work may try tomorrow...other methods such as one click and kingo doesnt work at all....
i think its due to the newest security patches..I dont know but am still searching...Any thoughts
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Did u unlock bootloader using this method?
mingkee said:
You can do this:
Make sure you backup your data with LG Backup to memory card.
Enable Developer Options (hit build numbers in about phone few times).
Enable OEM Unlock and USB Debugging.
When hooking up with your host computer, check the phone screen to allow your host computer.
Open cmd
Locate your adb platform-tools folder
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem unlock (doing such will erase your phone)
fastboot getvar unlock
fastboot boot TWRP.img (if you have compatible TWRP)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/58568e/v20unlockable_bootloadervery_simplesame_as_g4g5/
bountyman334 said:
I got the v20 ,...i got the bootloader unlock h-918... looking for root..tried lg g5 method...didnt work may try tomorrow...other methods such as one click and kingo doesnt work at all....
i think its due to the newest security patches..I dont know but am still searching...Any thoughts
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Wait...really? This is for real right? Haha jk...I did see your imgur pics OP....just a little surprised. (Double taking of the news....still sinking in...)
iunlock said:
Wait...really? This is for real right? Haha jk...I did see your imgur pics OP....just a little surprised. (Double taking of the news....still sinking in...)
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I guess he's just priming the pump for the inevitable hundreds of threads asking if the bootloader is unlocked or the "HELP!!! I'VE BRICKED MY PHONE AND I CAN'T GET UP!!!" threads from the morons for whom reading is not fundamental.
Since the bootloader is unlocked, is it safe to assume at some point we will have root?
Are you able to use fastboot commands? Such as to write a new recovery img. After that getting root is usually a piece of cake.
Not sure if it's different in Nougat but I think with an unlocked bootloader it really is just a matter of time till we get what we want (root).
As a piece of reference on the T-Mobile G5 we were able to root the G5 only after getting a .TOT with TWRP as the recovery because T-Mobile had somehow removed all the fastboot commands on that device except fastboot OEM unlock. If that is the case with the V20 we need talk to @tungkick again to manufacture another .TOT for us again.
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Since the bootloader is unlocked, is it safe to assume at some point we will have root?
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Yes I think so from my previous experience this is almost always the case.
With the V10 a user @tungkick created a .tot with root (SuperSU) patched into it. Then use LGUP to flash the .tot.
Once that is done flashing TWRP can be flashed using Flashfire by Chainfire.
Or instead of patching root maybe the .tot can be modified to have TWRP built in...?
Nvm...didnt read the previous comments.
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Systemless root is almost becoming the default now. And if we have TWRP is pretty much just flashing the systemless root and that's it. In the recent past systemless root has not been a problem.
joseguillen1994 said:
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Interesting...thanks for the heads up.
Uff mine is coming on 24th! I really hope this beast get rooted. It could unleash its true potential!!!
joseguillen1994 said:
Uff mine is coming on 24th! I really hope this beast get rooted. It could unleash its true potential!!!
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Great...tmo variant or international??
arjuna_ said:
Systemless root is almost becoming the default now. And if we have TWRP is pretty much just flashing the systemless root and that's it. In the recent past systemless root has not been a problem.
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I used it on my g4...Android pay still didn't work.. But systemless root non the less
joseguillen1994 said:
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Systemless is the way...I'll try to create a tot file..if they have released it yet
Double0EK said:
With the V10 a user @tungkick created a .tot with root (SuperSU) patched into it. Then use LGUP to flash the .tot.
Once that is done flashing TWRP can be flashed using Flashfire by Chainfire.
Or instead of patching root maybe the .tot can be modified to have TWRP built in...?
Nvm...didnt read the previous comments.
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Time will tell..but unless I can figure it out tonight
bountyman334 said:
Great...tmo variant or international??
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Im a tmobile guy lol. I have only used 3 carriers in my life in USA: lycamobile, metropcs, and tmobile (currently)
joseguillen1994 said:
Im a tmobile guy lol. I have only used 3 carriers in my life in USA: lycamobile, metropcs, and tmobile (currently)
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... 1st ... ......
Confirmed: Fastboot flash commands do not work similar to T-Mobile LG G5. Successfully unlocked bootloader though so that is also confirmed for the 2nd time.
got my sprint v20 today. looking forward to root and xposed
nerys71 said:
got my sprint v20 today. looking forward to root and xposed
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Sprint bl seems to be locked atm
Not sure if this means anything - but there is the oem unlock in developer options on sprint.
I just bought the phone and I am now on nougat. I tried looking for a simple root process without unlocking the bootloader on nougat but its simply overwhelming what works and what does not work. If anybody has a simple process on just rooting the device without unlocking I would appreciate it. Thank You
z45123qqq said:
I just bought the phone and I am now on nougat. I tried looking for a simple root process without unlocking the bootloader on nougat but its simply overwhelming what works and what does not work. If anybody has a simple process on just rooting the device without unlocking I would appreciate it. Thank You
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Did you read the root without unlock thread?
No, it can't be done on N or any worthwhile version of 6.0.1.
I did read through that thread and there were so many different versions it looks like it was hit and miss for most people. So there is a root possiblity for nougat right now is that correct. Thanks
You can root after unlocking.
Ok last question
Ok last question can you give me the link so I can root without unlocking the bootloader. I appreciate your help. Thanks