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Having had the original Moto Droid, and then the Bionic, and having owned Moto X (2013 DE) I've tried a dozen different supposed battery enhancers, screen adjusters, and so on and so forth. The phones nowadays are so complicated any tweaks involves complex interactions that any savings becomes almost purely anecdotal. Thus, I can only share a couple of my experiences.
Current Setup:
Moto X 2013 (XT1060) Verizon, Developer Edition (unlocked bootloader) running Lollipop (5.1) / LPA23.12-39.7 / Xposed w/ Mobile Radio Active Fix
Current Config:
* Greenify (w/ donate package)
* KinScreen (free version)
* YAAB (free version)
* LeanDroid (free version)
* Some tweaks done through Xposed / GravityBox.
Battery life monitored through BatteryMix
One observation: Screen always almost always consume the most juice, unless you have a bug like the mobile radio active bug.
Thus, it is no surprise that most apps tries to play with the screen settings, but there are at least 5 types of battery savers (6 if you count the root / kernel tweaking)
* Adaptive brightness doesn't quite do the job, but something like Lux.Lite may be a bit of an overkill. YAAB seem to be a decent compromise.
* The default screen on/off is not that smart, and there are variety of apps trying to anticipate your actions. KinScreen was one of them, as are apps like Screebl and Gravity Screen. And frankly I have both (registered too). So far, KinScreen seem to be the least user-friendly (it just presents a menu of choices) but apparently also the most logical if you understand the options given.
* I've tried the PixelOff battery saver for AMOLED screen but didn't notice much if any battery savings. And in any case this only works on AMOLED type screens.
* The additional configs like automatically disable WiFi, Bluetooth, Data, GPS, etc. doesn't save that much juice, and annoys the heck out of the system itself as well as the user. But this is the "obvious" goto, and old classics like JuiceDefender went for this approach. It can work, but may also make the system more aggravating. LeanDroid operates in a similar modality, but seems less aggressive, at least when I turned off its control of Bluetooth.
* Doze mode / Deep Sleep forcers are relatively new. I've tried Doze and Deep Sleep
battery saver. Former seems to work, latter didn't do anything for me when I tried it.
* If you are rooted, you can tweak kernel settings with apps like Kernel Adiutor but this is definitely superuser area, not for noobs, as the potential of making device almost unusable is high. Or you can go REALLY crazy with Xposed / Amplify and try messing with the services and whatnot directly, but that makes the system very unstable.
So, any way, what have I learned?
* NOTHING can save power if you are actively using the device. Most of these apps can only save power if you are NOT actively using the device.
* The more "aggressive" the battery saver app is, the more annoying the device is to use, esp. if you do use it for surfing, Facebooking, listening to podcasts, navigating, etc. Thus, you want a least intrusive app or apps.
* You want apps with least amount of memory footprint. That way, the system won't have to swap them out of memory, to load a different app (and that takes power). And some of these apps are surprisingly HUGE. You can check memory taken up in Settings / Apps / Running.
My personal standard of "success" is relatively low: if I can reduce the "idle consumption", i.e. phone idle, not surfing or playing podcasts, screen off, to about 6% per hour (so hypothetically the phone can last most of the day with occasional usage), that'd be good enough. I'd say I've barely succeeded, as you can tell from the attached screenshot. When idle, consumption is about 6% per hour. As soon as screen comes on, it pops up to like 16% per hour.
Altogether, not too shabby for a 3-year old phone, right?
What have you tried, and makes you believe that your favorite battery saver app works? Got any proof? Let's compare notes.
I was running stock rooted 5.1 until about a month ago. Greenify helped, but the two biggest things I changed aren't minor tweaks: I replaced the battery in January, which bumped up battery life a solid 30% or so, and I moved to a Marshmallow ROM (RR) and turned on "Doze Powersave" (not sure if that's different from native Doze or just a tweak of it). And that REALLY helped. Before I had to either plug in my phone at work or leave with a near-dead battery, now I get home and still at 60% or so.
goducks3620 said:
I was running stock rooted 5.1 until about a month ago. Greenify helped, but the two biggest things I changed aren't minor tweaks: I replaced the battery in January, which bumped up battery life a solid 30% or so, and I moved to a Marshmallow ROM (RR) and turned on "Doze Powersave" (not sure if that's different from native Doze or just a tweak of it). And that REALLY helped. Before I had to either plug in my phone at work or leave with a near-dead battery, now I get home and still at 60% or so.
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How stable are the new CM ROMs... I moved to rooted stock 5.1 with xposed about 2 months ago because the newer CM13 builds were so unstable; and i needed a stable daily driver. Also got a new battery to make the phone more reliable.
Thinking of going back to being a flashaholic again. would you suggest starting with RR for good battery life??
I have a Batteries Plus near me and seems they can replace the batteries. I've noticed that the battery is no longer reading quite right at the very top or very bottom (rapid rises at 90% and rapid drop at 10%) so it could be battery problem.
I've changed my config yet again. Went back to Lux, Doze, and KinScreen, and eliminated LeanDroid. The phone will idle at as low as 4% per hour. Though as soon as screen comes on consumption is MUCH higher. It could be I set the phone to "interactive governor" in the kernel though.
Last time I tried MM ROM it was Resurrection Remix and I had some problem with it so had to restore my Nandroid backup. I'll have to give it another try.
I've found RR very stable, no issues so far. I think it's worth trying. I am running the July 11 build.
The phone now idles at 1% or less per hour if I'm not using it and it's sitting on a desk or windowsill. I am astonished.
And yeah, replacing the battery is a good idea. Get a replacement back though, the old one will not survive. I'm now sporting a teak back I found on aliexpress for $20. I bought the battery on Amazon for $5 and had a local shop do the job for $35 labor.
unplugged the charged phone at 145am, this is what it looked like 5 hrs later.
Switching to 2g whenever you aren't using the phone, saves a lot juice. 3g is a huge battery killer over time.
KinScreen hammers the system with wakelocks so I got rid of it.
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I've found RR very stable, no issues so far. I think it's worth trying. I am running the July 11 build.
The phone now idles at 1% or less per hour if I'm not using it and it's sitting on a desk or windowsill. I am astonished.
And yeah, replacing the battery is a good idea. Get a replacement back though, the old one will not survive. I'm now sporting a teak back I found on aliexpress for $20. I bought the battery on Amazon for $5 and had a local shop do the job for $35 labor.
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You don't have the inaccurate battery reading bug? I've tried CM13, OctOS, and currently on Turbo ROM (all 3 are MM ROMs). All three have unreliable battery readings. Usually the phone will just shutdown without warning anywhere between 20%-50% battery "remaining". Around 50%-60%, the battery percentage will start nosediving.
Maybe you don't have that problem since you put in a new battery. I'm still on my original battery.
Another question: in your CPU usage and battery usage, does it list all your apps? On all of the ROMs I've tried, they're all not listing any apps/games. It only lists like SystemUI and screen. I think the reason it's not listing anything is because the battery usage reading is wrong for apps. Like it'll tell me a game that's been running for half an hour only used like 2mAh. I attached a screen of 13 minutes of CPU usage using 0mAh of battery.
The battery starts nosediving around 15% which seems to be common on the CM13 ROMs. It doesn't take too long to get down to the low digits from there. I've not let it run down entirely since my power key doesn't work and I'd have to reboot from recovery with the phone plugged in.
Yeah, I'm noticing this ROM isn't showing the apps usage like stock LP did. Huh. Rare that there's an option here showing less information than stock.
Past 6 months with this device:
stock KK, rooted, original battery ->
stock LP rooted, original battery (shorter battery life) ->
stock LP rooted, new battery (longer battery life) ->
MM ROM, new battery now 6 months old (even longer battery life)
10 bucks new original ex34 battery from ebay=new life
but phuk Moto for making battery swap difficult.
My Experience With The X
Hi, I'm french and i own a 2013 Moto X and lovin it !
It is a Moto X Developer edition 32GB XT1053 Black and White assembled in the USA.
This phone is so perfect, perfect form factor size, the moto dimple in the back, Amoled Screen, Average Battery-life, Stock rom and Moto gesture.
But The Stock Rom was a bit laggy and stuck on 5.1 so I tried many ROM : Stock Kitkat and Lollipop, Cm 11 and 12.1, and the 6.0 Rom like OctOS Oct-M but at the end of the day i always miss the moto app and the bugfree experience. And I don't like KitKat design, i prefer material design of Lollipop and Marshmallow.
As for me the perfect rom is a CM 13 Marshmallow rom with Doze, MM animation and other tweak.
But there is no Bugfree rom so i Stuck on Stock 5.1 Rom and use Greenify for the battery and Seeder for the lag issue.
Seeder is really a GAME CHANGER, it just change your phone, NO MORE LAG !!
I current use the lastest stock 222.201.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.EU vzw // LPAS23.12-15.5-1
I use TWRP 2.8.7.0 and my device is Root. Greenify + Seeder
Current Setting :
SuperSU
Greenify ( Donate Version ) I Greenify all the apps that i don't use daily
Seeder ( Paid Version ) Everything On and check, Moderate.
Google now launcher
Swiftkey Keyboard
Moto Screen On
Moto Voice OFF
Google Voice OFF
And now i enjoy a bugfree and flawless rom with good battery life.
hbenz2008 said:
10 bucks new original ex34 battery from ebay=new life
but phuk Moto for making battery swap difficult.
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Yes, I literally had a problem for over a year .. should've been in warranty but Moto played games .. I checked again & it will be atleast $100.00 dollars to fix/exchange swollen/bloated/pregnant battery .. So I started thinking .. I bet .. I can fix this myself .. for way cheaper .. I ordered from oem4less on Amazon.com for $12.35 & $1.99 shipping .. for the White Door & 2120mah battery combo with NFC & did it myself this week !! The shipping was faster than stated .. The back was already popped off of my phone.. So it wasn't too hard to fix .. I've spent close to that eating McDonald's so it was well worth a try !! I've used this phone for years usually just to tether .. but now I fell in_love with it again it feels and looks brand new .. I'm actually typing on this now .. I have zero lemon battery for my samsung note that's going through the conditioning process . I wish zero lemon made a extended battery for this !! But battery is fine, it last long and works well !!
that is what I call a wise move. Moto x can easily go for another two years
For anyone who is wanting to do this, just watch out for the flash ribbon attached to the rear cover. And it is not a bad idea to go ahead and order a rear cover itself for like 4 bucks. Be done
clem3 said:
Yes, I literally had a problem for over a year .. should've been in warranty but Moto played games .. I checked again & it will be atleast $100.00 dollars to fix/exchange swollen/bloated/pregnant battery .. So I started thinking .. I bet .. I can fix this myself .. for way cheaper .. I ordered from oem4less on Amazon.com for $12.35 & $1.99 shipping .. for the White Door & 2120mah battery combo with NFC & did it myself this week !! The shipping was faster than stated .. The back was already popped off of my phone.. So it wasn't too hard to fix .. I've spent close to that eating McDonald's so it was well worth a try !! I've used this phone for years usually just to tether .. but now I fell in_love with it again it feels and looks brand new .. I'm actually typing on this now .. I have zero lemon battery for my samsung note that's going through the conditioning process . I wish zero lemon made a extended battery for this !! But battery is fine, it last long and works well !!
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I deactivate "Doze" and downloaded Xposed -- PowerNap.
Had to dump LeanDroid as it's causing me problems.
Dumped YAAB and went back to Lux (paid) as I had a couple Tasker mods for Lux and YAAB doesn't handle curves of brightness well.
Still can't tell if KinScreen is better or worse than GravityScreen.
My idle power consumption almost to nil or down to maybe 3-4% per hour with PowerNap activated but not engaged. I'll post a BatteryMIx screenshot later.
kschang said:
I deactivate "Doze" and downloaded Xposed -- PowerNap.
Had to dump LeanDroid as it's causing me problems.
Dumped YAAB and went back to Lux (paid) as I had a couple Tasker mods for Lux and YAAB doesn't handle curves of brightness well.
Still can't tell if KinScreen is better or worse than GravityScreen.
My idle power consumption almost to nil or down to maybe 3-4% per hour with PowerNap activated but not engaged. I'll post a BatteryMIx screenshot later.
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I had to turn off motion sensing in GravityScreen because I realized it was really eating up my battery. Right now it's just using the light sensor but not completely certain if it's still draining my battery.
I just changed my battery last weekend. Best idea ever. I must've really done my old battery wrong because with this new battery I swear I have 2x-3x the battery life than I was getting before.
Will start messing with things and testing battery life. Currently using a CM13-based (MM) ROM (OctOs) and just installed Amplify because my idle time wasn't satisfactory at all. Feels like built-in Doze does nothing.
KinScreen often just "dies" on me, does not switch screen on at times. I got horribly annoyed that I went back to GravityScreen. I turned off the "motion" settings in Gravity Screen. My screen response upon phone pickup is much better now, and I don't have this black screen problem any more.
Yesterday I got the best results yet. Idle drain with screen off is 3.3% and that's great. That's with Greenify (w/ Xposed / Donate), PowerNap (Xposed), Lux (paid), and GravityScreen (paid). PowerNap is set to engage at 80% and 20% respectively.
Hi guys, I have a new Moto X (amazing and beautiful phone). On stock lollipop I have an huge battery life with moderate use. So the question is:
What is better for battery life?
a) stock rooted kitkat
b) MM rom (what rom?)
Hope someone can reply Thanks to all guys!
Personally on my original Moto X I'm using the Debloated Lollipop. With PMP to disable location / wakelock on certain apps. I get about 2 days battery on moderate use. Email and whats app running in the background
Sorry but what's PMP?
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Personally on my original Moto X I'm using the Debloated Lollipop. With PMP to disable location / wakelock on certain apps. I get about 2 days battery on moderate use. Email and whats app running in the background
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mic141414 said:
Sorry but what's PMP?
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Protect My Privacy (PMP)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/org.synergylabs.pmpandroid
It's an xposed module. Think Xprivacy but simpler.
It let's me disable wakelocks on app by app base.
Aka I don't ever want youtube to wake up
Also use boot manager to prevent apps from auto starting.
One thing I don't use anymore is greenify.
My s7 is arriving today and I was all set to root. But I keep reading posts about how the phone becomes super laggy with all types of battery drain.
I guess I'm trying to gauge if that's a real issue or people just overreacting.
If anyone can share their findings and thoughts I'd appreciate it.
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If you follow all the steps after rooting it's not bad. Sot is not as good but standby time is the same for me. I also have no lag.
mpetruzz said:
My s7 is arriving today and I was all set to root. But I keep reading posts about how the phone becomes super laggy with all types of battery drain.
I guess I'm trying to gauge if that's a real issue or people just overreacting.
If anyone can share their findings and thoughts I'd appreciate it.
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Follow swicks lag thread. When I first got my s7, I couldn't go more than 7 hours without having to charge it. First day with the tweaks in his thread. I got this
Look into the U firmware. It removes the Verizon bloat, stable, and great battery life!
You can fix idle time on stock by downloading ez disabler (Samsung) from the market and getting a XML list of everything to disable.
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Yes
Maybe? - another issue?
mpetruzz said:
My s7 is arriving today and I was all set to root. But I keep reading posts about how the phone becomes super laggy with all types of battery drain.
I guess I'm trying to gauge if that's a real issue or people just overreacting.
If anyone can share their findings and thoughts I'd appreciate it.
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I rooted my SM-G930V, and I am experiencing some heat from the phone when it is sleeping- not so much when it is unlocked and operating.
As for battery drain- I have not noticed any major loss in battery usage.
There also seems to be a significant speed issue with speed- took around 5 seconds to open the settings app, But this can be fixed by
editing CPU governor from interactive to ondemand with Kernel Aduitor.
I am looking into this article to fix the heat issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...guide-to-fix-s7-lag-root-s7-variants-t3441715
Stang5litre rom and you wont regret it
You can do a lot with various Xposed modules and other root apps to mitigate the drain, but there is some drain nonetheless. SOT takes a bit of a hit. Standby time, it's negligible.
I recommened personally sticking to stock. I use to be rooted and between battery life and issues I went back to stock. This was before the roms came out. I have a new born and a family I can't play around with signal dropping, phone restarting, lagging and whatever else. I like stock with nougat beta. If the bootloader ever gets unlocked or something else that interests me to root maybe one day but not worth it for me right now.
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With Stang5litre's rom I've have zero problems.
There is no way with any rom or any app (unless it is magical and brand new) that you aren't having issues with this phone and root. I tried every app I could and 2 roms available here for it as well and it was still laggy with terrible battery life. I held on with this phone as long as I could hoping for a better root method but I couldn't wait any more. The performance after a few apps and kernel changes is still terrible compared to stock. The battery life after fixes and kernel changes is equally as terrible. I was getting around 1 hour and 10 mins of SOT before it was completely dead. I loved the phone and stock it had great performance and battery life, but that eng kernel for root just destroys it. I NEED root on my phone or I would have kept it stock. Word of advise, keep this phone stock or sell it and get something that can be rooted and actually stay usable.
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There is no way with any rom or any app (unless it is magical and brand new) that you aren't having issues with this phone and root. I tried every app I could and 2 roms available here for it as well and it was still laggy with terrible battery life. I held on with this phone as long as I could hoping for a better root method but I couldn't wait any more. The performance after a few apps and kernel changes is still terrible compared to stock. The battery life after fixes and kernel changes is equally as terrible. I was getting around 1 hour and 10 mins of SOT before it was completely dead. I loved the phone and stock it had great performance and battery life, but that eng kernel for root just destroys it. I NEED root on my phone or I would have kept it stock. Word of advise, keep this phone stock or sell it and get something that can be rooted and actually stay usable.
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I get about 5-6 hours SOT and no performance issues. I occasionally overheat but that's it. Different people have different results, for whatever reason.
Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...
I'd be looking at the apps you haveinstalled... Sounds like there's something running in background eating away at your battery life...
Or it's an energy vampire living in your home....
I am getting radically different battery performance with this phone day to day. One day it'll get a solids like 6.5 hours SoT and others I'll get like 4. Various issues it seems. Shouldnt be that hard to get consistent battery life.
Agree with above. Only common denominator here is you / your apps. But, stock+magisk with franco kernel and the app naptime is enough for me to get 5-7h sot out a full battery, but usually it's half full when I go to bed
You've mentioned that you tried many things to resolve this but I'll go ahead and tell you the things I use to make my battery last a little longer (hopefully there is something useful for you)
- Greenify with Magisk Module
- ForceDoze
- Location almost always on battery saving mode
- Force Doze for Google Play Services Magisk Module
- if WiFi is on, data will be off, and if data is on, then WiFi is off
- Bluetooth is always off if nothing is connected to it
- brightness is kept relatively low/halfway at most, the majority of the time
Running unofficial RR with Lightning Kernel v11 (1000hz version)
All this combined gives me roughly 9-9.5 SOT (about 140 apps installed)
If I forgot to mention anything, I'll edit it in here!
I've been very careful with my apps and I can't see what could be causing, I've tried third party Facebook apps instead of the official one for example and there's nothing strange installed.
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Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...
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Try with basic steps. Factory reset then:
1) Have totally stock OP5 - no "battery saving tricks", no apps. Run a bit. What is SOT? If less then average of 5-6 hours - either you have a "curse"/NSA tracking you or defective hardware.
2) Install your "battery saving trick" one by one testing after now and then. Are there any improvements in SOT? If yes, then write your wiki page, share your findings . If not, write your wiki page and tell us what application is a culprit.
3) Rinse and repeat until no more application left to install or you got bored.
I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?
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I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?
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There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.
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There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.
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Oops, I meant to follow up on this. Android System and Google Play were causing a lot of wakelocks. I cleared cache in the Google Play and Google Services apps sad now I'm back to my typical 6-7 hours SoT.
Hello guys. I know that this is a very common question not just in OnePlus 2 forum. I read some posts of this, tried, but no success. So far I've tried couple of ROMs but battery life is so disappointing. Best shot was RR ROM 8.1 official with BB kernel installed. After system and kernel installed, I've done a wipe of data. I wanted to make sure there is nothing except system on my phone. After that, all necessary apps I use. That was operating very good in few days. But recently, out of nowhere, battery life is awful! Over the night, with no use and battery saver turned on, I loose more than 20%! I know that I haven't downloaded any additional apps after first days of installation, I haven't changed any settings since first day... I added fingerprint lock 2 days ago and yesterday I turned it off. So What is going on??? Phone is not overheating, seems like there is nothing in the background running to drain battery.
If you know what could cause the problem, it would be very helpful. But I'm also opened for installing a new ROM, kernel...
Who is here with good battery life? Gimme some advice! Btw, I don't care if it's N or O, or anything as long as it's operating well, reliable and no bugs. Thanks!
That's probably a battery issue, install AccuBattery then see how much health your battery have(requires few charges).
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Hello guys. I know that this is a very common question not just in OnePlus 2 forum. I read some posts of this, tried, but no success. So far I've tried couple of ROMs but battery life is so disappointing. Best shot was RR ROM 8.1 official with BB kernel installed. After system and kernel installed, I've done a wipe of data. I wanted to make sure there is nothing except system on my phone. After that, all necessary apps I use. That was operating very good in few days. But recently, out of nowhere, battery life is awful! Over the night, with no use and battery saver turned on, I loose more than 20%! I know that I haven't downloaded any additional apps after first days of installation, I haven't changed any settings since first day... I added fingerprint lock 2 days ago and yesterday I turned it off. So What is going on??? Phone is not overheating, seems like there is nothing in the background running to drain battery.
If you know what could cause the problem, it would be very helpful. But I'm also opened for installing a new ROM, kernel...
Who is here with good battery life? Gimme some advice! Btw, I don't care if it's N or O, or anything as long as it's operating well, reliable and no bugs. Thanks!
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I reached (haters gonnah hate) best battery life on lineage 13 with boeffla kernel (zanezam's uber builds, use some battery safe profile from profile thread or make your own), amplify, greenify (optimized accordingly to the corresponding thread, with xposed) and NO GAPPS. Get about 3 days with SOT of 2-4h or a sot of 6-9h on 1 day (on an old oneplus2, no gaming). You can also use dualbootpatcher and a second, battery optimized (but lagging) ROM so you can switch when you can't charge your phone for a longer period of time.
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That's probably a battery issue, install AccuBattery then see how much health your battery have(requires few charges).
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I did, really awesome app but I'm not sure that I understand what is saying to me. And I don't think that is battery issue because before this I had a really good battery life. I'm sure that if I do a fresh install of new ROM, battery life will be great but only for few days.
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I reached (haters gonnah hate) best battery life on lineage 13 with boeffla kernel (zanezam's uber builds, use some battery safe profile from profile thread or make your own), amplify, greenify (optimized accordingly to the corresponding thread, with xposed) and NO GAPPS. Get about 3 days with SOT of 2-4h or a sot of 6-9h on 1 day (on an old oneplus2, no gaming). You can also use dualbootpatcher and a second, battery optimized (but lagging) ROM so you can switch when you can't charge your phone for a longer period of time.
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Can you explain this please with simple phrases? How was the performance? Do you use it now?
Snuff1 said:
I did, really awesome app but I'm not sure that I understand what is saying to me. And I don't think that is battery issue because before this I had a really good battery life. I'm sure that if I do a fresh install of new ROM, battery life will be great but only for few days.
Can you explain this please with simple phrases? How was the performance? Do you use it now?
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I personally use AOSiP with NGK and I get 3-4 hours SOT in 2 days, give it a try if you want.
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I personally use AOSiP with NGK and I get 3-4 hours SOT in 2 days, give it a try if you want.
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What is AOSiP with NGK and SOT? Sorry dude...newbie
Snuff1 said:
Can you explain this please with simple phrases? How was the performance? Do you use it now?
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Forget everything with dualboot patcher, you would probably mess up your phone.
For everything else, use xda search. Seriously, you only have to type the apps i suggested 1:1 into the adress bar and you will find it! If you are too lazy for this, unroot and go back to stock.... seriously...
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Yes, i'm using this now (lineageos13) with a self compiled boeffla kernel (uber 8, camera focus fixed on 6.0.1 roms), greenify, amplify (own build), xposed (needed for amplify, greenify works better with it) and no GAPPS (= google apps--> no playstore, youtube, etc--> draining battery as hell, idk what they are always doing in the background...)
My boeffla profile: 3 cores 1250mhz max, big cores disabled, battery extreme governor, system and my apps (whatsapp, telegram, 9gag, browser) work fluently (they start up a very little bit slower than before).
Battery profile is same but with 2 cores 675mhz, still only few microlaggs (you have to disable all animations in developer settings), internet browser is slow (use a lightweight browser, such as firefox focus) apps open up slower but aside from that the phone is usable. If you're interested in the kernel and my profiles, please tell me (you still have A LOT of work to do by yourself, such as setting up amplify and greenify, disabling (system) apps you don't need, adjusting everything for your needs, deny unnecessary permissions on app ops xposed, etc).
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884/ best battery life thread (for me)
Snuff1 said:
What is AOSiP with NGK and SOT? Sorry dude...newbie
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AOSiP it's a rom - Android Open Source Illusion Project
NGK it's a kernel - No Gravity Kernel
SOT - Screen On Time
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Results can vary. As someone who flashes way too many ROMs - its an addiction - I currently use crDroid Oreo as my daily. I also flashed the blue bolt kernel. This seems to give me good battery. I do have a rooted version of the stock ROM I flashed in twrp backup. Just in case. With crDroid also backed up I can move quickly from one to the other in about ten min without losing all my settings. It is a good idea to occasionally do a fresh backup of one or both since apps added or deleted or updated and any changes you've made since last backup will not be kept otherwise.
shonkin said:
Results can vary. As someone who flashes way too many ROMs - its an addiction - I currently use crDroid Oreo as my daily. I also flashed the blue bolt kernel. This seems to give me good battery. I do have a rooted version of the stock ROM I flashed in twrp backup. Just in case. With crDroid also backed up I can move quickly from one to the other in about ten min without losing all my settings. It is a good idea to occasionally do a fresh backup of one or both since apps added or deleted or updated and any changes you've made since last backup will not be kept otherwise.
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Do you know dualboot patcher (google it )? Very nice opportunity to have multiple roms installed on the device (which even share the data for specific apps--> u have all your wa chats from one rom on the other, directly after reboot). Wouldn't recommend for people who can not restore a backup over adb (unexpected things can happen, but way better than always saving and restoring a backup)...
Snuff1 said:
I did, really awesome app but I'm not sure that I understand what is saying to me. And I don't think that is battery issue because before this I had a really good battery life. I'm sure that if I do a fresh install of new ROM, battery life will be great but only for few days.
Can you explain this please with simple phrases? How was the performance? Do you use it now?
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If you don't mind for a worse looking screen quality, you can use terminal emulator (with root), do a backup in TWRP(ALL partitions!) then type (hit Enter after each line):
"su" (grant root if asked)
"wm size 720x1280" (for 720p, it looks about the same as 1080p, u can also use 480x854)
"wm density 300" (200 for 480x854)
Then u can lower your cpu frequencies until it lags. (and disable system animations, my phone works fine at 480p with 2 cores at 768mhz max freq) will post sot/running time (without charging) when i have the time to test.
Anyone uses "L Speed" or LKT or NFS-Injector or anything for better battery life?
"L Speed" - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
LKT - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/module-lkt-legendary-kernel-tweaks-t3896032
NFS-Injector - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nfs-injectorv1-t3857231
These all seem to supposedly do the same things for our phones... tweak them for better battery or better gaming or whatever.
Has anyone had good results from any of these for battery life?
I'm going to start testing them myself, but I want to know what results others have gotten.
Thanks!
From my experience, there have definitely been no negative effects from using these types of tweaks. Almost since day one, I've used the older AKT 1.6 (I think you asked about that one last year) and then switched to LKT (picked balanced profile) earlier this year to test. Since I saw absolutely no difference in battery life between those two based on my light to moderate usage, I just kept LKT. I'm not sure what the exact benefits of these tweaks are vs. stock/no tweaks as I've been using them early on, but so far, there's no harm in having one of them installed as they don't interfere with anything I do on my phone (LS997, stock-based Nougat custom ROM, mk2000 kernel).
In case you're wondering about my typical battery life, I go from full to 10–15% in 1.5 to 2 days, averaging over 6 hours screen-on-time on a rotating pair of 4100 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that I had since last December.
C D said:
From my experience, there have definitely been no negative effects from using these types of tweaks. Almost since day one, I've used the older AKT 1.6 (I think you asked about that one last year) and then switched to LKT (picked balanced profile) earlier this year to test. Since I saw absolutely no difference in battery life between those two based on my light to moderate usage, I just kept LKT. I'm not sure what the exact benefits of these tweaks are vs. stock/no tweaks as I've been using them early on, but so far, there's no harm in having one of them installed as they don't interfere with anything I do on my phone (LS997, stock-based Nougat custom ROM, mk2000 kernel).
In case you're wondering about my typical battery life, I go from full to 10–15% in 1.5 to 2 days, averaging over 6 hours screen-on-time on a rotating pair of 4100 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that I had since last December.
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Thank you.
Is there a particular app I can run for 5-10 minutes to "run" the phone a bit to them check Accubattery to see how much it's draining?
I would like something or some ideas so I can test each of these under similar situations and have a good comparison.
baldybill said:
Is there a particular app I can run for 5-10 minutes to "run" the phone a bit to them check Accubattery to see how much it's draining?
I would like something or some ideas so I can test each of these under similar situations and have a good comparison.
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That would be difficult to pull off since app usage varies so much by user, and you probably won't see much happening in such a short period. The most common thing to do is use any battery monitoring app such as GSam Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats that shows details of how much battery each app drains and use your phone normally for at least a full day to see if there is any significant drain by any app during the period. You can find brief descriptions of those battery monitoring apps over here.
C D said:
That would be difficult to pull off since app usage varies so much by user, and you probably won't see much happening in such a short period. The most common thing to do is use any battery monitoring app such as GSam Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats that shows details of how much battery each app drains and use your phone normally for at least a full day to see if there is any significant drain by any app during the period. You can find brief descriptions of those battery monitoring apps over here.
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Valid point about the short period of time testing.
Here's my perceived dilemma:
Let's say I test the "l speed" for 1 day -- and play games for 1 hour and get 2 hours of phone calls.
Then I test the "LKT" for 1 day -- and play games for 45 minutes and get 1 hour of phone calls.
How can I tell which one is working best for battery life since the phone was used more on the 1 day than the other?
baldybill said:
Valid point about the short period of time testing.
Here's my perceived dilemma:
Let's say I test the "l speed" for 1 day -- and play games for 1 hour and get 2 hours of phone calls.
Then I test the "LKT" for 1 day -- and play games for 45 minutes and get 1 hour of phone calls.
How can I tell which one is working best for battery life since the phone was used more on the 1 day than the other?
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That's where longer testing periods would be more helpful to cover any differences/inconsistencies. Ideally, you'd want to give it at least a week to get a good sense of any battery life benefits/drawbacks vs. no tweak installed.
baldybill said:
"L Speed" - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
LKT - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/module-lkt-legendary-kernel-tweaks-t3896032
NFS-Injector - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nfs-injectorv1-t3857231
These all seem to supposedly do the same things for our phones... tweak them for better battery or better gaming or whatever.
Has anyone had good results from any of these for battery life?
I'm going to start testing them myself, but I want to know what results others have gotten.
Thanks!
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You can choose Extended battery, I am currently using one 10500 mah battery. Battery life is mindblowing. I lasted more than 1 whole day with heaviest usage ( 7 hours Video Playback, Calls, Hotspot for 5 hours, etc) and still got 40% left on the battery. Yea its kinda bulky but you have to sacrifice something.
Here's the link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920820535.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3f3d4c4dZv7RfQ
teji007 said:
You can choose Extended battery, I am currently using one 10500 mah battery. Battery life is mindblowing. I lasted more than 1 whole day with heaviest usage ( 7 hours Video Playback, Calls, Hotspot for 5 hours, etc) and still got 40% left on the battery. Yea its kinda bulky but you have to sacrifice something.
Here's the link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920820535.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3f3d4c4dZv7RfQ
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That's not a bad idea. For now, though, I'll hold off on adding the bulk to the phone and keep tweaking. But it's something to keep in mind. Thanks!
In my testing, LKT can have thermal and ram issues, FDE can have thermal issues (both with battery above 115 degrees Fahrenheit.) FDE can have root ability issues as for editing files with root exploring app. Injector can have same issues, but not as bad. AKT still holds the crown in my book.
Mysticblaze347 said:
In my testing, LKT can have thermal and ram issues, FDE can have thermal issues (both with battery above 115 degrees Fahrenheit.) FDE can have root ability issues as for editing files with root exploring app. Injector can have same issues, but not as bad. AKT still holds the crown in my book.
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My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
baldybill said:
My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
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I use AKT on oreo without any issues
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baldybill said:
My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
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No, I can't Stock Oreo. Can't root past ZV7. I have a Ls997 (Sprint).
Well If you still want full root ability, then possibly LKT, maybe injector. Lspeed I have no issue with either. Lspeed can be used with AKT, LKT, FDE, Injector, but don't set same settings as others apply or it CAN have bad results. With Lspeed it seems a lil more aggressive as to acting and you can feel a difference with lag/performance/see battery changes with Accu pretty quickly after restarting with after changes.
As for out-dated, AKT may be old, but it sufficiently works. The app is best. Kinda like our phones, maybe kinda out date, but blows most of/if not - any other away with it's abilities. To be honest, most kernel mods might be based if of AKT imo. There is a way to edit post appied AKT profiles for further customised settings that will stick as AKT fully boots after restarting that I found also.
You can edit the post applied AKT selected profile that you want to always work automatically after AKT fully boots (Superuser boot) by going to... Root/storage/0 (or local, whatever your internal storage is)/AKT/AKT. Edit the AKT file in the AKT folder with text editor, save, delete backup file, reboot. Copy and paste a backup somewhere else to use as needed in future. Found this ability after many, countless wonders if able. Yes, yes it is .