Who runs ROMs without Google Apps? - Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers

Something I keep trying to do is shift away from using Google's services, however I keep getting drawn back to using them just because of the simplicity. Does anyone else have a rom that they don't use Gapps at all? If so, what do you use and recommend as replacements? I currently have Chromium as my browser, F-Droid is installed for some open source apps, a few things such as NewPipe for YouTube and some APK files I backed up before deciding to make the plunge yet again. I'm also having one heck of a time trying to get MicroG setup completely, mainly the GPS settings. I'm on LineageOS for the time being, and any suggestions would be wonderful.
*Edit*
I just went back to CM 13.1 actually. The reason being for Xposed to get MicroG working.
Also, why not. I'm thinking that I might turn this in a guide thread for Marshmallow going through the steps I did.

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Help installing ArmSense_XE_0.6.130 ROM

Noob alert. First post, first rom.
Thought it about time I had a go at hacking my Hero and thought I’d better start with a rom that seemed stable. I chose the ArmSense_XE_0.6.130 Android2.3.5+sense3.5 on this forum.
Root and install of the custom recovery was painless.
Flashed this rom and all seemed well. The first thing I thought I’d try was maps, as I want to check gps functionality, but no maps app to be found. I then remember reading in this forum that custom roms rarely contain the Google apps. I found, downloaded and flashed the 20110828 version of gapps (in the same way as I flashed the initial rom, but without doing a wipe first, I hope this is right).
Still no maps. I know they can be downloaded from the market (play), but the market app seems to fail. When I select it the screen goes white for a few seconds and then returns without displaying any error. Not wanting to give up I visited play via the browser, but this would not let me download directly to the phone either, as it reported that I must use the phone app to visit the site first.
I’ve obviously visited the market many times before on this phone, and am sure I set my Google account up properly during the setup. (though googlemail has changed to gmail during the time between I originally setup the phone and now).
The upshot of all this is that I have these questions:
Generally have I done the right things?
Should I have the maps and come to that gmail, which I now notice is also missing?
Any ideas on the problem with the market app?
And lastly, I was sort of expecting the same clock as shown on the op of the ArmSense_XE development thread be the default, but this is not the case. I quite like it. What is it and where does it come from?
Restored to my original stock 2.1 configuration for now.
Thanks in advance
Gapps
quattro_driver said:
Noob alert. First post, first rom.
Thought it about time I had a go at hacking my Hero and thought I’d better start with a rom that seemed stable. I chose the ArmSense_XE_0.6.130 Android2.3.5+sense3.5 on this forum.
Root and install of the custom recovery was painless.
Flashed this rom and all seemed well. The first thing I thought I’d try was maps, as I want to check gps functionality, but no maps app to be found. I then remember reading in this forum that custom roms rarely contain the Google apps. I found, downloaded and flashed the 20110828 version of gapps (in the same way as I flashed the initial rom, but without doing a wipe first, I hope this is right).
Still no maps. I know they can be downloaded from the market (play), but the market app seems to fail. When I select it the screen goes white for a few seconds and then returns without displaying any error. Not wanting to give up I visited play via the browser, but this would not let me download directly to the phone either, as it reported that I must use the phone app to visit the site first.
I’ve obviously visited the market many times before on this phone, and am sure I set my Google account up properly during the setup. (though googlemail has changed to gmail during the time between I originally setup the phone and now).
The upshot of all this is that I have these questions:
Generally have I done the right things?
Should I have the maps and come to that gmail, which I now notice is also missing?
Any ideas on the problem with the market app?
And lastly, I was sort of expecting the same clock as shown on the op of the ArmSense_XE development thread be the default, but this is not the case. I quite like it. What is it and where does it come from?
Restored to my original stock 2.1 configuration for now.
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
The ROM you choose is far from being stable, that's why it's marked with the version ArmSense_XE_0.6.130.
Please check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343988
I'm using the SHPONGLE v3.5 and I'm quite satisfied.
M
Thank you for the advice. Downloading it now.
I have the right gapps package I guess and will need to add it to this rom too?
Cheers
Hi,
The ROM already have gapps light, meaning that you can register your account and access Google Play.
Then you can download the apps you need like Maps, Youtube, Gmail, whatsoever...
M
Got it working now.
Apart from a little niggle with the lock screen (probably me being unfamiliar) it all seems very fast and smooth.
Thank you for your advice.
SHPONGLE v3.5 is by far the fastest 2.3.7 on Hero in my (very fresh) experience.

[Q] CM 10.1 ROM Gmail problems

I've recently installed CM 10.1 nightly build, the most recent, on my Nexus 4. I am experiencing only problems with gmail, when I attempt to open the application, it loads then crashes every time. It is becoming very disturbing and making me not want to use this ROM. If anyone else is experiencing this issue can you tell me below to get this thread popular so someone might find a fix? And if you've fixed it, can you let me know how?
Thanks, Eric.
EDIT: I'm also realizing that almost all of my GAPPS are not functioning whatsoever. I did a restore of my apps and system and shared to get all my apps back, but now half of them are incomplete for some reason (no icon and non functioning) and the rest work fine though.
ericvolp12 said:
I've recently installed CM 10.1 nightly build, the most recent, on my Nexus 4. I am experiencing only problems with gmail, when I attempt to open the application, it loads then crashes every time. It is becoming very disturbing and making me not want to use this ROM. If anyone else is experiencing this issue can you tell me below to get this thread popular so someone might find a fix? And if you've fixed it, can you let me know how?
Thanks, Eric.
EDIT: I'm also realizing that almost all of my GAPPS are not functioning whatsoever. I did a restore of my apps and system and shared to get all my apps back, but now half of them are incomplete for some reason (no icon and non functioning) and the rest work fine though.
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If this is your first flash of CM 10.1, you also needed to flash the 11/30 gapps that they point you to in their OP
lol dude another "i flashed xyz rom and now everything is broken" thread
Hey everyone learns one way or another here at q&a. Heck, I'm still asking questions myself
If you backed up everything in Stock, then it will be tricky when you try to restore in Cyanogenmod. You can restore downloaded apps and data safely. But you may start running into problems when you begin to restore system apps, system data, and system settings.

Thinking it's time to upgrade to Nougat but...

So, with the realization that Xposed, etc. are likely dying a slow death I'm coming to the realization more and more that it's time to just get used to using a phone without that stuff and go ahead an upgrade to Nougat. I've been holding off because of the lack of xposed.
My question is...is there anything out there (on the Play Store or downloadable APKs) that will do the same things as these modules and is a legit app and not some junk?
1) Greenify (I know this will work without xposed but some features won't work - is there anything better?)
2) XInsta (download Instagram photos and videos)
3) SnapPrefs (I primarily only use this for typing more text in Snapchat and sharing 20 second videos which are longer than stock, I don't need the other features)
Anyone know of anything that I can download to replace those?
Also, as far as rooting 7.1.1 it's just a matter of applying the latest SuperSU I already am using (I updated my N6P regularly) after flashing the 7.1.1 stock images?
Any pointers will be appreciated.
IlyaKol said:
So, with the realization that Xposed, etc. are likely dying a slow death I'm coming to the realization more and more that it's time to just get used to using a phone without that stuff and go ahead an upgrade to Nougat. I've been holding off because of the lack of xposed.
My question is...is there anything out there (on the Play Store or downloadable APKs) that will do the same things as these modules and is a legit app and not some junk?
1) Greenify (I know this will work without xposed but some features won't work - is there anything better?)
2) XInsta (download Instagram photos and videos)
3) SnapPrefs (I primarily only use this for typing more text in Snapchat and sharing 20 second videos which are longer than stock, I don't need the other features)
Anyone know of anything that I can download to replace those?
Also, as far as rooting 7.1.1 it's just a matter of applying the latest SuperSU I already am using (I updated my N6P regularly) after flashing the 7.1.1 stock images?
Any pointers will be appreciated.
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Hi... I can't answer all your questions, only 2...
About greenify. I used to have it on my N6 running marshmallow. When I upgraded to the N6P, I thought I'd try without, just to see how battery performs. With stock 7.1.1 or PureNexus, the battery drain is negligible. Also, you can install a custom kernels and use custom profiles which tends to help with battery consumption (this is more for screen on usage though).
If you still want to save more juice... There's Franco's naptimes app that forces doze as soon as the screen goes off. I don't use it, so you may try to find more infos by yourself.
I don't use Xinsta, nor SnapPrefs, so i'll pass on this.
For root, flash your stock firmware, flash TWRP with fastboot, reboot to TWRP, then flash SU of your choice. Latest SuperSU is SuperSU 2.79 SR3. Don't reboot to system before the SU install or TWRP will be overwritten by stock recovery and you'll have to reflash it, etc... Starting with 7.x firmware it has to be done this way...
Good luck...
5.1 said:
Hi... I can't answer all your questions, only 2...
About greenify. I used to have it on my N6 running marshmallow. When I upgraded to the N6P, I thought I'd try without, just to see how battery performs. With stock 7.1.1 or PureNexus, the battery drain is negligible. Also, you can install a custom kernels and use custom profiles which tends to help with battery consumption (this is more for screen on usage though).
If you still want to save more juice... There's Franco's naptimes app that forces doze as soon as the screen goes off. I don't use it, so you may try to find more infos by yourself.
I don't use Xinsta, nor SnapPrefs, so i'll pass on this.
For root, flash your stock firmware, flash TWRP with fastboot, reboot to TWRP, then flash SU of your choice. Latest SuperSU is SuperSU 2.79 SR3. Don't reboot to system before the SU install or TWRP will be overwritten by stock recovery and you'll have to reflash it, etc... Starting with 7.x firmware it has to be done this way...
Good luck...
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Thanks!
Yeah, I used Elemental right now on my N6P with 6.0.1. So I'm already tweaking that, and I did read about Naptimes just like 5 minutes ago as I was doing further research. Can also run Greenify in basic mode to get some of those benefits back as it doesn't require Xposed for all features.
Really curious about the other two, if anyone knows of any other apps.
Thanks again!
IlyaKol said:
Thanks!
Yeah, I used Elemental right now on my N6P with 6.0.1. So I'm already tweaking that, and I did read about Naptimes just like 5 minutes ago as I was doing further research. Can also run Greenify in basic mode to get some of those benefits back as it doesn't require Xposed for all features.
Really curious about the other two, if anyone knows of any other apps.
Thanks again!
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Hey... I don't see any issue as far as I remember that could prevent from using greenify. I don't know how much apps you have installed that could stay running in the background. Doze has been pretty well improved on 7.x compared to marshmallow. Give it a try, you can still install it afterward.
Good luck...
OGinstagram+ can download pictures and videos, it's here on XDA. It's not updated regularly (doesn't get bumped up for each little play store update to Instagram) but it works just fine. No idea about anything for Snapchat or greenify.
On newer versions of Snapchat you can type unlimited captions without Snapprefs. Videos are still stuck at 10 seconds, though.
Face_Plant said:
On newer versions of Snapchat you can type unlimited captions without Snapprefs. Videos are still stuck at 10 seconds, though.
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Ahh! Didn't know that! I can probably deal with the video limit. Good to know, thank you!
RoyJ said:
OGinstagram+ can download pictures and videos, it's here on XDA. It's not updated regularly (doesn't get bumped up for each little play store update to Instagram) but it works just fine. No idea about anything for Snapchat or greenify.
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Thanks for that suggestion. :good:
Well, I think I have enough to ditch XPosed and go to Nougat...gonna back the phone up first and get to work flashing.

What ROM setup can I use Netflix with?

I have Lineage Marshmallow and Netflix did not show in Google Play. I installed Magisk through its manager, made sure Hide was on, then Netflix was still not in Play. I downloaded an apk from a trusted site (can't remember want it was at the moment, apkmirror or something like that). It started bootlooping during that install. Had to wipe and reinstall the ROM.
What ROM and magisk combo can I use to get Netflix running? I need Marshmallow or higher, and the camera to function. Suggestions?
Stock Nougat.
Face it, apps are getting better at seeing the **** you do, so just play by the rules. That or stop using ****ing Lineage OS, use AOSP 7.1.2 and stuff, its less customized and thus a bit harder for apps to see with safetynet or similar, but the thing is, at that point you might as well just run stock.
How do I get stock Nougat that has a working cam, and miracast? I was of the impression that Nougat roms disabled both.

[Guide] LineageOS 18.1, Android 11, Magisk Root, and Passing SafetyNet

I was bored one evening, so I started poking around on XDA Forums, and found a way to fix the battery issue I had with OnePlus 3T that made me switch to another device years ago! I was surprised how usable 3T is to this day. I thought I would breathe some life into it with LineageOS 18.1 that continues to receive security updates and patches. This way I will have a backup phone ready in case something happens to my OnePlus 6. It is unlikely that 3T will receive LOS 19, so this guide should stay relevant for a long time.
1) Get back to the latest version of Oxygen OS if you are on a custom ROM. Use something like MSM Download tool and then upgrade to 9.0.6 with the built-in updater.
2) Follow the instructions on los website to install LineageOS 18.1 and google apps via MindTheGapps. If you do not need google apps, then you probably do not care about SafetyNet and do not need this guide
Now the main issue is the SafetyNet. If you install YASNAC - Yet Another SafetyNet Attestation Checker you will see that the phone is not passing the SafetyNet verification, meaning that Google Pay will not work and some other apps, like banking apps, might not work either. We are going to fix that with Magisk and MagiskHideProps. Feel free to poke around on your own. I will just present that have worked for me.
3) Go to Magisk's Github, download the latest release and follow the installation instructions. (Notes: 3T has RAM Disk, there is no separate vbmeta, boot.img is inside lineage-18.1-xxxx.zip)
4) Once you have Magisk working, got to MagiskHidePropsConf and get the latest release there. Go to Force Basic Attestation Post and follow the installation instructions under the spoiler.
5) Now, let's get Basic Integrity to pass. Go to Basic Attestation Post and make sure to add both com.google.android.gms.unstable and com.google.android.gms to deny list. Reboot. Go to YASNAC. It should say that Basic Integrity is passing. CTS profile match is not, but that's okay.
6) Install terminal app like Termux. Open it, and run su to get superuser privilages. Then run props. Follow the instructions to Edit device fingerprint (option 1).
Edit Device Fingerprint (1)
Pick a certified fingerprint (f)
Pick vendor (OnePlus is 21 at the time of writing)
Pick device (3T is 5 at the time of writing)
Pick the one with Android 9. (It does not matter that the android versions are mismatched)
Follow the instructions to apply changes and reboot.
7) Check YASNAC, everything should be passing now!
Some other suggestions:
GCam is pretty nice alternative to the original camera. I would recommend this one. (It is recommended to also install Google Photos. It is a google camera after all.)
OpenWeather is a nice weather provider.
I would also recommend going to Google's Keyboard, Messages, Phone, and Calendar Apps. AOSP ones are not great, in my opinion.
Hope somebody finds it useful! Good luck!
Ah nicely done, thanks for the effort and work you put into this. How is your 3T performing?
AndyC76 said:
Ah nicely done, thanks for the effort and work you put into this. How is your 3T?
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Hi, thanks! I was planning to use it as a development device to pick up android app development, but life got in the way and that never got off the ground
My 3T has developed a battery issue which ultimately led to me retiring it. The battery is extremely unreliable. It can be at 1% but work for 3 hours, sometimes the phone refuses to charge and the battery percentage tends to get stuck at 50% regardless of the actual charge level. I tried replacing the battery but the same behavior persisted. I think it is something either with the motherboard or the battery connector on it :/ Still a pretty snappy phone though!

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