OK I finally gave in my note 7 after I broke it today..And I am really trying to love this phone. Samsung's aren't perfect, but one thing they do well is stream clean music with *slightly* pushed bass. This works amazing in my car especially because I have a added subwoofer in my car.
I was really looking forward to the increased audio quality everyone says this phone has, but in my experience thus far, I am finding it incredibly lacking! Is it because I am not using the auxillary port?
In my car over Bluetooth the music streamed from it sounds okay except for there seems to be a huge lack of bass. I try to compensate by cranking the bass some on the radio, however it just sounds muddy. Not clean and powerful without being too powerful like the Samsung's.
Has anyone else experienced this, and short of rooting have you found any remedy? The part that sucks is the majority of the music I listen to comes from Spotify, and Spotify doesn't connect with any equalizers you can download. Only the phones operation system equalizer. Someone please chime in
Yea weak sound quality with Bluetooth
But when connected with 3.5 cable the quality is outstanding with the hi dac
Damn that sucks. I haven't used a headphone jack in damn near 3 years.
rowihel2012 said:
Yea weak sound quality with Bluetooth
But when connected with 3.5 cable the quality is outstanding with the hi dac
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Are you rooted by any chance?
The amazing sound quality you're hearing about is from the wired connection. Once you hand off to BT, it's pretty much up to the device you're sending it to.
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The amazing sound quality you're hearing about is from the wired connection. Once you hand off to BT, it's pretty much up to the device you're sending it to.
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Well that's not true. You can play multiple Bluetooth devices and there is differences in sound. A iPhone, and galaxy, and this phone all sound different in my car stereo system and on my reciever in the house. Clearly 3 different sound profiles
Lg v20 is AptX/AptX Hd compatible. You should look for bluetooth IEM/Headphones/Speakers with those features and then you will get optimal quality sound for bluetooth. Personally have the LG tone platinum's with AptX HD and its the best audio experience I've from bluetooth earphones.
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Yea and
Has weta rom
Sounds great in my car, Powerbeats wireless and Samsung level pro speakers. Nothing wrong with Bluetooth over here.
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Sounds amazing on my Harmon Kardon Onyx Studio and my Tones infinims.
This sounds great over Bluetooth with aptx. I have a a car stereo with aptx and it makes a difference. I was running viper on my old S4 before and I am pleased enough that I haven't even rooted to install viper yet. S4 sounded like crap over Bluetooth until I found viper with the appropriate convolver.
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Yea and
Has weta rom
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Weta included Dolby Atmos in his rom. Have you tried that with bluetooth?
I hear a big difference with it set to music and intelligent equalizer to open.
Lots of bass on my lg headphones.
androiddiego said:
Weta included Dolby Atmos in his rom. Have you tried that with bluetooth?
I hear a big difference with it set to music and intelligent equalizer to open.
Lots of bass on my lg headphones.
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Yea fantastic rom with fantastic audio mods
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But i love Hi Fi dac sound
You shouldn't have to root at all.
Try this app for play store
Equalizer FX
But in short no phone uses DAC once Bluetooth is connected. The only thing that may make your old phone any different is its Bass settings.
shwnr11 said:
You shouldn't have to root at all.
Try this app for play store
Equalizer FX
But in short no phone uses DAC once Bluetooth is connected. The only thing that may make your old phone any different is its Bass settings.
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Does it work for Spotify?
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Does it work for Spotify?
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Its a free app and runs in the background.
It appears to detect any media playing thru the phone.
I haven't tried it with Spotify, but my guess would be yes.
As I haven't found an app it hasn't worked with yet.
I've used it with Napster, Pandora, Slacker, You tube, web browser, lg player, and a few other things. And have been able to adjust the EQ settings every time.
Only glitch I have ran across is sometimes it doesn't start up or was killed off by the OS while not being used. So I have to open up the app once in a while and toggle it on and off to activate it again. But once that's done it usually stays on and continues to function until I stop playing media and stop using it for a period of time.
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I just installed it myself and yes it does.
Keep in mind though these apps can only do so much with whatever hardware you're using.
Would be bad ass of the DAC could work with Bluetooth but unfortunately that's literally impossible since a DAC requires a wired source.
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I just installed it myself and yes it does.
Keep in mind though these apps can only do so much with whatever hardware you're using.
Would be bad ass of the DAC could work with Bluetooth but unfortunately that's literally impossible since a DAC requires a wired source.
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I downloaded it and yes it does help even with Spotify thank you very much. It helps some. I'm now getting the infamous static over Bluetooth.
I actually asked my dude to come over who has 2016 dodge charger (I have a 2013 300) because I was starting to think maybe I'm just tripping. I hooked my phone up in his car via Bluetooth and played a song by Migos (lol horrible artists but they have a lot of dynamic beats) I first played it on my phone with the said app running In the background. First thing he said is "why it sound like that?" I told him wait until we listen to the whole song. We then had him hook up his s7 edge via Bluetooth and there is a CLEAR difference. Much higher *quality* bass. Much more "fuller" highs. Not that the V20 does not get loud...That's not the case. The V20 will get loud but sounds like crap...
So to play devil's advocate. I pull out his aux cord from his center console and made sure I turned DAC on and played the same song. Yes. DAC does help with the quality especially when playing 320kbps music. It sounds great. Yet still, I still find the lows sloppy, muddy, and just not quality in my opinion. I expected alot more out of this phone audio wise, and call me crazy, I am extremely let down as I find the Samsung's have a much more natural, full, sound profile. Maybe I just prefer the Samsung audio profile vs LG's implementation. I know when it comes to clean low end bass, Samsung's have a clear advantage. Even with Bluetooth headphones.
I am going to continue messing with the equalizer app I downloaded and hope to find that great balance I am looking for. I may ultimately end up returning the phone. Seems fickle, but having to do all of this and use antiquated aux cords and rooting etc just to get the sound I want is overkill to me especially when there are no promos thru T-Mobile for this phone right now..
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Try out Napster.
They have a built-in equalizer unlike Spotify.
And their built-in equalizer is a little better than the stand alone equalizer I mentioned earlier.
Just make sure your not running both equalizers at the same time. Also make sure that the phones volume is turned down to start off with, than increase once music is playing.
The phones output thru auxiliary seems to be a little higher than most head units can handle, when the volume is max out on the phone.
I also have a second device called sound shocker. It allows me to keep the phones volume low, but maximize the quality of the music and have high volume output from the head unit.
Go check it out at sound shocker.com
Also being on T-Mobile, dont forget you have the Hi-Fi settings. Adjusting the dB in the settings will also have great effect when playing thru auxiliary chord.
Oh....one more thing.... Under the accessibility settings under hearing, make sure you have stereo turned on or off to suit your preference.
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Hi,
I just got my Desire HD yesterday and I love it so far and I am running the Android Revolution HD 3.5.
I have one issue though, when I have no music playing and I hit the play button with SRS, Dolby, or Equilized there is a loud 'click with base' noise right before the song starts, it almost sounds like I plug in the headphones into the jack and there is some electrical 'boom' , something similar to what you hear if you plug in a guitar with the amplifier on, if you understand.
It is really annoying as it happens evertime i pause a song and then start it again, note this only happens when I have the enhancements on, not on regular setting.
Using Bose Around Ear headphones.
Thanks
I know what you are mean ...
i had that problem too, but at this time i haven't it..
with the htc headphones it clicks but with the one i have now there is no problem
So you are saying that it might be the headphones?
Which ones are you using now, what fixed it for you?
Thanks for your reply!
BTW, if I use something like WinAMP would it go away?
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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I have to say that I am happy with the sound. I have noticed the issue to my problem though, as i paus the song, the phone tend to turn off the sound enhancements after few seconds and the sound that is really annoying is when it turns back on after that, so is there any hack to not allow it to turn off?
Alize said:
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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Try CM7 with the snd3254 dspmode hack ... its much better
srikanth.naidu said:
Try CM7 with the snd3254 dspmode hack ... its much better
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I tried CM7 but it just felt unpolished for some reason and I just want stock stock 2.3 if im gonna make the change, just got the phone so want to get tired of Sense first.
Mixzing app had an equilizer that worked perfect, not the greatest looking app thats around but it works.
I still cant figure out the problem with the regular Dolby stuff, really annoying, I mean its not a cheap phone.
Helllo everyone,
I have read about supercurio's audio analysis and how the audio chip in the GS2 might not be as great as the original GS but I have a GS2 so...I am trying to get the most out of the audio that is in there using headphones and my car stereo through auxialiary input.
I currently have both power amp and dsp manager installed and was wondering if dsp manager was necessary since power amp has a built in equalizer. I was also wondering if anyone had a nice equalizer setting that works well with the GS2 for most type of music
thanks!
audio booster
http://androidaudiohacks.com/home
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soraxd said:
audio booster
http://androidaudiohacks.com/home
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So then you recommand using only audiobooster and disregard poweramp's equalizer and dspmanager?
Does anyone still have some good equalizer settings? I am currently using the Rock preset on poweramp and am liking the difference between it and flat but I don't know if I could do better.
thanks
bump,
no audiophiles here have a nice audio setup to use with headphones or through aux?
nox156 said:
bump,
no audiophiles here have a nice audio setup to use with headphones or through aux?
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I'm far from an audiophile..
I could test mine with my Sennheiser HD 555s when I get the phone next week but thats not really what you'd want. They're not really something you'd use with a mobile phone.
mainly looking for someone who has experience with the phone and with equalizers to try and bring out of the strength of the phone and maybe hide the weaknesses if at all possible.
Someone recommended Volume+, would you only use that or use it with something else
nox156 said:
mainly looking for someone who has experience with the phone and with equalizers to try and bring out of the strength of the phone and maybe hide the weaknesses if at all possible.
Someone recommended Volume+, would you only use that or use it with something else
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I grabbed hold of volume+ after reading about it here. As Voodoo sound doesn't work, I'm using it to boost the base volume of the headset only. If I want to fiddle with the EQ, I have PowerAmp for listening so will use that. To be honest, these two in combination seem to work pretty well for me with fairly cheap headphones so I'm happy.
PowerAmp's EQ is the best, no question. Don't use any additional resident EQ's, they are very low quality compared to PowerAmp's one. After tweaking the poweramp EQ some, I'm getting a pretty good result with my etymotic HF2's.
can you post the equalizer setting you are using? Just to give me an idea
thanks
Poweramp working well. Is it much improved by also using external equalizer app?
poweramp works fine and its amplifier too is ok
however this wont fix the audio output of the sgs2
plug any decent headset (maybe not the bundled one) in the sgs2 then the sgs1 or an iphone and you can easily hear the difference even if youre not an audiophile or smth like that
personally this will make me jump to the next nexus or sgs, granted that their audio output is better, as soon as they're released
its not that the sgs2 output is horrible but its far from the leaders in that area
I'm using the settings described here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122361
They work rather well for me. Sometimes the output isn't loud enough though, so I've been playing with some of the equalizer and volume+ settings. I can jack the volume up a ton with those two, but I definitely lose some quality here and there and see a bunch of volume+ force closes so still working out the kinks there. Other than that, very satisfied with the audio quality on the SGSII with Poweramp.
+1 to these settings
im using the phone as my primary source for audio in the car, using poweramp and i find that the settings described in that post work quite well
the only thing to note is im not sure if the EQ settings work as it says that only the paid version can use custom settings but it seems to do something at least
Clicks and pops in pandora audio.
this looks like the basic stagefright issue but good lord how long will this go on?
I have tried to disable stagefright but have been unable to do it or tell that i have as the problem has not gone away.
i do still need to do that.
I see so little information on this.
CM7 2.6.35.13 pershoot kernel
It doesnt happen in jango. havent tried slacker.
Doesnt happen in radio time.
only happens on some pandora songs.
Coldplay songs on pandora have it often enough. "Clocks"
this is a tmobile g2. it is running off of 4g.
i have tried bumping the cpu up.
changing EQ settings and lots of searching.
it appears that some phones have this issue and other do not but most appearances of the issue do not have a solid solution.
if there is a solid solution to this i did not see it in a FAQ.
Is there no solution to this? is this still a fight between android and pandora audio format or what is the deal?
I noticed I get choppy audio from Pandora if "Cell Network Audio Quality" in "Preferences" is set to "Normal". After changing it to "High" the audio is clear and sounds amazing in my car!
Aw geese. I am using high quality audio.
The cm7 basic kernel does the same thing. It has done this since I moved off the stock rom to cm 6.
The clicks and pops and not easy to hear. But once I hear it then I think its happening all the time.
Slacker doesn't seem to have this issue.
I use blue tooth a2dp? Stereo head phones and they are working in this mode.
I have had a mobile 6.5 phone a 3g iphone and this g2 with these head phones. The g2 audio in pandora is unacceptable.
Ill use slacker but I like pandora.
And pandora should work.
I do not accept that it is an issue with only my phone.
I think if you listen with right song the clicks are very noticable. Anybody should be able to hear it.
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I use pandora mostly in my car with just a hair over 1000 watts total to door speakers and subwoofer. The door speakers have the majority of the power with a 760 watt amp, and I listen to my music loud. I'm sure I would have noticed any clicking and popping. I use a stereo jack though, maybe because you are using wireless it doesn't sound as good.
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it doesnt happen with all songs.
But it doesnt happen with slacker at all.
it is something to do with pandora.
I believe the past issues were with the android codec and a fileformat pandora used. I figure that must still be the case.
Not all of pandoras songs use the same file format as i understand it asn i dont hear the issue in every song.
I do hear it as well through the crappy car stereo mini plug input jack i use.
what are your phone specs? are you using cyanogenmod 7? which kernel?
Are you running in high quality audio for pandora.
have you tried it their coldplay songs?
also have you tried using bluetooth stereo headphones.
i dont use the miniplug input jack in my car.
the headphones i use are.
sony
dr-bt22a
they sound fine in pandora on all the phones i have tried that have bluetooth audio that is not broken. Granted a lot of phones have broken bluetooth audio.
I run MIUI 1.7.1, kernel 2.6.35.13-EB-CM7-Streamline5 on my T-Mo G2. Dunno the clock speed but whatever default is, I haven't tweaked it at all. I run Pandora with high quality audio, and I mostly listen to top hits, and electronic style music, not cold play specifically. Also, I don't have any bluetooth headphones, the only time I use Pandora is in my car, and I have a stereo jack input on my stereo.
cm7 nightlies here, I use pandora daily and have never experienced this issue... and I am definitely anal about audio quality.
are you using dsp manager on your bluetooth headset?
pmcqueen said:
cm7 nightlies here, I use pandora daily and have never experienced this issue... and I am definitely anal about audio quality.
are you using dsp manager on your bluetooth headset?
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Yes i am using dsp manager. sounds pretty cruddy without the EQ.
I always use it. i havent tried it without.
Is there a known problem with the DSPmanager?
CrunchyGremlin said:
Yes i am using dsp manager. sounds pretty cruddy without the EQ.
I always use it. i havent tried it without.
Is there a known problem with the DSPmanager?
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not any known problems that I'm aware of, but that would be the first place I'd look to when troubleshooting.
see if completely disabling DSP manager for bluetooth makes a difference.
I'll try a coldplay station (mind you, I'm not a fan. you owe me. ) on the way home today and see if I can pick out any infidelity.
some call it heterosexual gay music...
but what ever.
I think i have tried disabling it.
I dont know. I was really hoping there was some known issue somewhere.
Other songs do it too. in pandora. slacker, which i dont like much, does not seem to have this issue.
it does it without the dsp from what i can tell its just harder to hear but
red hot chili peppers "scar tissue" does it pretty clearly and horribly.
dsp on or off. even tried killing the dps service.
next song was matt kearney "nothing left to lose" and i did not hear it there but i think it is... if i hadnt heard it in the previous song I would not think it was in this one.
maybe i can make a recording of the audio...
Hmm. if i can get to happen from the audio jack as well. it sounded like it was doing it in the car with the mini plug.
Hey guys! I've found out what Dolby Mobile is really good at doing. So basically I have a Logitech X540 5.1 Surroud Sound System. As you may know, any 5.1 Surround System usually has 3 wires for input:
1)For Front Left and Right Speakers
2)For Center Speaker/Subwoofer
3)For Rear Left and Right Speakers
Of course, you can use the main (green) wire for Left and Right sound. Many Surround Sound Systems feature what is known as "Matrix Mode", where you press a button and the incoming audio from a device that has only Stereo Audio (Which in our is the Desire HD) is converted into 5.1 Channel Sound! But as those of you who've tried may know, it's not that great ¬_¬
Anyways, I don't really use my computer for JUST playing music, as it heats the whole room up in under 15 minutes
So I plug my Desire HD into my Surround Sound Sytem for music since it's a GOOD music player!
So anyways, when you use headphones, and select Dolby, the sound seems a little too "Seperated" and "Wide" and Bassy right? That's what they include SRS for, listening to music through headphones. Now, what is Dolby Mobile for, you may ask? Simple! When you use Matrix mode, it converts 2 Channel Sound so that audio is output through ALL speakers. Generally speaking, it works OK...
Try this! Plug in your Desire HD, don't put on Dolby Mobile just yet and select Matrix Mode on your sound system, or a similar feature. Listen to how it sounds. Now, try the same with SRS! Sounds better, but more bass. Now, try Dolby Mobile! Sound comes through all 5 speakers LOUD and CRYSTAL CLEAR. What Dolby Mobile does is it encodes music as it is playing so that it can be recieved by a Surround System with Matrix, and thus spreads the sound out, so different instruments etc go to different speakers. Creates a really nice Surround Sound System audio from "just" a mobile phone! Try it out, and tell me guys if you notice the difference as much as I did! Oh, and turn the bass and volume up a bit while you're at it
Will definitely try it out... Thats a Plus
Speakers
Wow! I bet that took a while to figure out.
I'll definitely try it out.
This just got me wondering.... if HTC did such a good job at at making the music app on the DHD so good , why.... Seriously why did they did they fall so miserably short of including decent speakers on the phone itself? Even the earphones included in the box can be used better as a shoelace.
This sounds interesting.. So you say that i will need to change some settings on my reciever also?
I bought DHD mainly for this reason when it was released. I have dolby in all my pcs, laptops and now in mobile. And for this reason am still neglecting in switching over to sense 3 ROM.
Or you could go to the Dolby website and actually read the data sheets about dolby mobile.
http://www.dolby.com/DocLibTechLanding.aspx?taxid=1488
ViousAD said:
Wow! I bet that took a while to figure out.
I'll definitely try it out.
This just got me wondering.... if HTC did such a good job at at making the music app on the DHD so good , why.... Seriously why did they did they fall so miserably short of including decent speakers on the phone itself? Even the earphones included in the box can be used better as a shoelace.
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The speakers aren't really that bad, it's just the defaults that HTC have set the output to that's crap. Look for a thread in the General section called 'actually make your speaker sound good', it shows you how to manually tweak the DSP settings. I found after playing around with it for a while, I could actually get my DHD sounding quite meaty.
How do you connect your DHD to your speakers?
I have gigaworks and would love to see how my DHD sounded on these.
Cheers.
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How do you connect your DHD to your speakers?
I have gigaworks and would love to see how my DHD sounded on these.
Cheers.
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Connect the audio input wire that goes into your pc, to your Desire HD's headphone jack instead
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This sounds interesting.. So you say that i will need to change some settings on my reciever also?
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You may have to, or you might not. For my speakers I had to enable Matrix Mode. I'm certain all the good sound systems have that facility, or a feature similar to that.
Found out how to make the sound from your sound systems sound even better! Download PowerAmp, and select the Dolby Mobile option within Poweramp. Also you can change the equalizer and other settings so you can fine tune the sound
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Found out how to make the sound from your sound systems sound even better! Download PowerAmp, and select the Dolby Mobile option within Poweramp. Also you can change the equalizer and other settings so you can fine tune the sound
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Worked well. Thanks
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Connect the audio input wire that goes into your pc, to your Desire HD's headphone jack instead
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I have three that go into the back of my sound card?
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I have three that go into the back of my sound card?
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Which colour is each one? The primary one is the green one
Hi, I'm from Europe and yesterday I received my brand new A2017G. It's on B09 software version and OTA isnt finding anything newer. Sadly I read in many places (and tested it by myself) that only stock music player can output music to the AKM DAC. Are there any possibilities for me to achive desired result (I mean non-stock players do the same) on stock rom? I assume that I'd have to root and flash some custom rom but I would like to do it in the last resort (I use many banking apps which don't work that good with root and custom roms)
I can't hide the fact that this function is quite a dealbreaker for me. The phone is all great but if I can't use my favourite music player - for example PowerAmp, the what's the point. Stock music player is extremely lacking - and that is saying it lightly.
I have used many players which works fine (with Dolby Atmos) with the stock Rom..
Actually it's Pi music player. But you have Phonograph too and several others. Just give them a try too see it's what you want.
By the way, the last version of the stock Rom for G models is Nougat B10.
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ma_ko said:
Hi, I'm from Europe and yesterday I received my brand new A2017G. It's on B09 software version and OTA isnt finding anything newer. Sadly I read in many places (and tested it by myself) that only stock music player can output music to the AKM DAC. Are there any possibilities for me to achive desired result (I mean non-stock players do the same) on stock rom? I assume that I'd have to root and flash some custom rom but I would like to do it in the last resort (I use many banking apps which don't work that good with root and custom roms)
I can't hide the fact that this function is quite a dealbreaker for me. The phone is all great but if I can't use my favourite music player - for example PowerAmp, the what's the point. Stock music player is extremely lacking - and that is saying it lightly.
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JLLE said:
I have used many players which works fine (with Dolby Atmos) with the stock Rom..
Actually it's Pi music player. But you have Phonograph too and several others. Just give them a try too see it's what you want.
By the way, the last version of the stock Rom for G models is Nougat B10.
Envoyé de mon ZTE A2017G en utilisant Tapatalk
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All apps can use the AKM DAC, actually. if you don't believe me go to the sound toggle and, well, toggle it a few times. Now hi-res is another matter, but I believe you are not talking about that specifically. if you are, then only Neutron and maybe those apps jlle mentioned work (i.e. not poweramp)
Just use Poweramp if you don't care about hi-res files and that stuff
The question is - I honestly don't know. I just wanted good audio quality. At first I installed poweramp, listened to some songs at the sound was decent. However when during playback I went to android settings -> sound -> headset hifi and switched between super and standard nothing happened. There was no change in music. I assume it's a setting for headphones only but I tested several pairs and nothing. But when I used stock music player I could toggle that setting with audible effect. Another thing (I guess) is Dolby icon visible when you pull down status bar. Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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It's the same and it works with the speaker or headphons. In speaker I would leave Dolby on,does it's job quite well with it but for headphones I'm turning it off to take use of the AKM dac/super mode,but to really hear a difference you've got to have a pair of high impedance headphones.Also in Poweramp there should be a setting somewhere that makes Dolby work again,but may turn poweramps equalizer off, but I don't know where/what the setting is called since I'm only using spotify atm.
F.Y.I., Poweramp only works with HIFI if you use the beta, and include a couple work-arounds in your build.prop. Not the easiest thing in the world to get running, but it sounds great once you do.
Dolby and Hi-Fi audio quality are two totally different things. Dolby is the separate audio processing software that works on both speakers and headphones, but does not get too well with Poweramp, while Hi-Fi audio is a setting for choosing which audio processor outputs when using headphones ( the integrated Snapdragon audio proc or the AKM one).
On my A2017G there is a pretty subtle, but clear difference when using Poweramp, between the two Hi-Fi settings: the Super one is a bit louder, has more bass and better soundstage. This can be changed without problems when listening to music using Poweramp.
The Dolby software, though, sometimes can be activated, but then it cannot be deactivated until I stop the music and also the interface still shows that it's deactivated, even though the sound has changed.
My recommendation is to just use the Hi-Fi thing in Settings with the PowerAmp EQ because the Dolby software is not too versatile. This sounds really nice with my headphones.
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F.Y.I., Poweramp only works with HIFI if you use the beta, and include a couple work-arounds in your build.prop. Not the easiest thing in the world to get running, but it sounds great once you do.
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naw. It doesn't work at all. The workaround I posted just reroutes the audio path in some obscure way, and it makes sound better out of it (for some reason the equalizer makes more difference) but the sound goes into a mixer path and gets downsampled to 48k. You get to use Viper4Android and Dolby with it though.
It also kills the camera
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The question is - I honestly don't know. I just wanted good audio quality. At first I installed poweramp, listened to some songs at the sound was decent. However when during playback I went to android settings -> sound -> headset hifi and switched between super and standard nothing happened. There was no change in music. I assume it's a setting for headphones only but I tested several pairs and nothing. But when I used stock music player I could toggle that setting with audible effect. Another thing (I guess) is Dolby icon visible when you pull down status bar. Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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it usually lets you change between super and standard . You should find a difference in the soundstage and better, more defined bass.
The "standard DAC" (also akm, seemingly, but powersaving-oriented) is used for the speakers, and Atmos is designed for phone speakers too. You CAN use it on headphones, but it'll give you a bunch of noise. It doesn't work with Poweramp unless you use 704 and follow my guide on how to "enable hi-fi" on it (the camera will break, you'll need to use another camera app). But it's not worth it unless you use Viper4Android
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ma_ko said:
The question is - I honestly don't know. I just wanted good audio quality. At first I installed poweramp, listened to some songs at the sound was decent. However when during playback I went to android settings -> sound -> headset hifi and switched between super and standard nothing happened. There was no change in music. I assume it's a setting for headphones only but I tested several pairs and nothing. But when I used stock music player I could toggle that setting with audible effect. Another thing (I guess) is Dolby icon visible when you pull down status bar. Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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it usually lets you change between super and standard . You should find a difference in the soundstage and better, more defined bass.
The "standard DAC" (also akm, seemingly, but powersaving-oriented) is used for the speakers, and Atmos is designed for phone speakers too. You CAN use it on headphones, but it'll give you a bunch of noise. It doesn't work with Poweramp unless you use 704 and follow my guide on how to "enable hi-fi" on it (the camera will break, you'll need to use another camera app). But it's not worth it unless you use Viper4Android
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naw. It doesn't work at all. The workaround I posted just reroutes the audio path in some obscure way, and it makes sound better out of it (for some reason the equalizer makes more difference) but the sound goes into a mixer path and gets downsampled to 48k. You get to use Viper4Android and Dolby with it though.
It also kills the camera
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I guess I'm a little confused here. I've feel like I've had so many discussions on what actually uses the HIFI DAC on this forums (you seem to be one of the few that know we use 2 different AKMs). What procedure are you talking about though? Currently I use AINUR, which supposedly someone with an AXON worked with to get the audio down the right path, and I also use the work around to get Poweramp to use the HIFI mode. From what I heard this should output 24bit 96khz. Unless you are implying that poweramp downgrades audio then upsamples it?
In any case, all 3rd party ROMs use the HIFI DAC by default. Maybe not the full extent, but to be honest the most important thing for HIFI music is mastering. But even so, without full DAC control I still think the phone sounds much better than most others. I do want to try out that custom "ROM" though, see what the controls do.
For my ears, using the bare bones ZTE player produces better sound with headphones, but it just isn't worth dealing with the limits of that player.
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I guess I'm a little confused here. I've feel like I've had so many discussions on what actually uses the HIFI DAC on this forums (you seem to be one of the few that know we use 2 different AKMs). What procedure are you talking about though? Currently I use AINUR, which supposedly someone with an AXON worked with to get the audio down the right path, and I also use the work around to get Poweramp to use the HIFI mode. From what I heard this should output 24bit 96khz. Unless you are implying that poweramp downgrades audio then upsamples it?
In any case, all 3rd party ROMs use the HIFI DAC by default. Maybe not the full extent, but to be honest the most important thing for HIFI music is mastering. But even so, without full DAC control I still think the phone sounds much better than most others. I do want to try out that custom "ROM" though, see what the controls do.
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The "procedure" is the workaround you use. It doesn't do what you believe. Poweramp seems to believe that it is offloading via a direct path but it is going through a mixer path. Therefore Poweramp (maybe) processes at high resolution, but it gets downgraded at the output, and you get 48kHz. If you don't believe me that the output is 48 use media.audio_flinger
Ainur has the AK4490 patch integrated. It's no use since a) stock ROMs use it (they have the switch) and b) since long ago all ROMs have integrated the AK4490 patch on them.
You can get Hi-Res on stock and custom M and N ROMs but you have to use Neutron which is horrible. Doesn't work in O ROMs at the moment
i think we had a big discussion with the 2 akm's thing before though, but someone asked ZTE and they replied that they also used the DAC that's inside the AK4961. so i dunno
All you need is this.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jetappfactory.jetaudioplus
And optionally get the AM3D plugin from within the player. It has everything you could need, even AGC. I've tried so many players and always come back to Jet. Neutron is more flawed from a user interaction perspective and I don't like it.
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argblah said:
For my ears, using the bare bones ZTE player produces better sound with headphones, but it just isn't worth dealing with the limits of that player.
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I usually keep the stock music app disabled but every now and then Jet gets an update so I enable and listen to stock, then listen to Jet.
Every time, Jet sounds better and I disable stock app again.
I keep Dolby Atmos turned off using BT or 3.5 jack for music and have it on with the inbuilt speakers or if playing a video whatever the audio listening device.
I've been using Gone Mad player for a while now, quite happy with it. Works great with BT in car, headphones, hirez etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gonemad.gmmp
I just use the deep buffer remover mod from XDA to have the Super DAC setting working for all headphone output. I posted about it ages ago back here https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/list-music-players-outputting-to-akm-dac-t3695058
Sent from my ZTE Axon 7 using XDA Labs
https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/hires-audio-driver
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/hires-audio-driver
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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thanks a lot for the links. I just purchased the Pro from Play Store after I tested the same song versus neutron player on a pair of ath m50x.
the sound on USB audio is much much better.
I'm waiting to test it on my gf's htc 10 when she's home, should be even better
I highly recommend getting the trial guys